2022 WRX Gets on the Dyno and Makes More Power!

[@QactisX]

"The JB4 doesn't let you monitor the knock sensor" bye have a beautiful time

[@JulianGonzalez1974]

This is not a big deal if youre just doing street driving. If youre doing track or 1/4 mile then you'll need a better software solution. For bolt on street driving, monitoring the knock sensor is NOT a big deal. I had a Cobb AP with an off the shelf tune on my 08 WRX with an intake and CBE exhaust. I took it to Big Willow a couple of times and drove it hard on the street and never had an issue.

[@igortodorovic6463]

Got a 2022 Subaru outback Onyx edition. Mishimoto TMIC, cut out the charcoal filter and slipped in a K&N intake filter into the stock box, got nameless axleback exhaust. Everythig else is stock. Can someone help me custome a tune? Im not trying to blow up my car but i wanna be able to do hard pulls. I know i dont have a full race car but im trying to see a tiny bit more out of it. I tried map2 and i even sent the log to BurgerTuning they told me it was running very rich and to change fuel bias to 80 for everything. Besides that what else could i do? Is there a good setup someone has for me ? Please help me. This is my daily driver btw.

[@francescocarbone4836]

Hi guys, you did not test stock version with the better fuel. are you sure stock would not make more power with the 93 vs 91 fuel?

[@Jacob0824]

If I upgrade my fuel pump and boost solenoid on my 22 WRX; will my warranty be voided? Trying to get honest feedbacks. Thanks 😊

[@GrimmSpeed]

Typically, warranties can't be voided. Claims can be denied. If you upgrade your fuel pump and something goes wrong. They can deny the claim because of the upgrade. But it's not going to void your whole warranty. If you upgrade your fuel pump and it leads to a catastrophic failure, they may conclude that it was the main fault and deny the claim.

[@DarkWolfWRX]

I have been working on the custom map with E30. I never messed around with the 91 map all too much but it is interesting to see how your 93 map is leaning out so much. Those are the numbers Burger has told use to shoot for with E30.

[@mrsubaru5367]

I use 93 with 2 gallons of flex fuel to a full tank and see how much hp u get without the the hook up.

[@elliotserrano7333]

What were the torque gains????

[@jerwrx22]

I think you guys should try to contact them and customize your tune, they offer free help, you need to datalog a few pulls in 2nd and 3rd gear from 40 to 90 (In a safe zone, closed area). Might have to change fuel loop also. It's been proven several times on forums that poeple are getting much more power with stock jb4 than u guys did.

[@popolijt]

where can i find that

[@firezemissle6656]

@@popolijt an airstrip….those are found everywhere.

[@syo_nara1916]

Hey how about getting more of those Subaru BPV (04-21 STI) that you all dropped recently and sent all the 10 that was made to KZbin content creators. It’s still out of stock.😢

[@brianstates7336]

E30 tune, map5 or custom map6. Tune it up!!

[@jlucas9342]

Im making 292 and 280 mustang dyno on my FA20 on 93 with intake and turbo back, no knock at 22.5psi at sea level and AFR around 10.5-11.5. Its my only car so told the tuner to keep it conservative and reliable. Whats holding me back now is IAT's I need a better intercooler. Point is the FA20 is very tuneable and responsive, not sure this new engine is what everyone hoped it would be.

[@Cichlid_Visuals]

that high RPM WOT knock is very concerning. this engine doesnt like to rev.

[@joshgellatly7704]

@@Cichlid_Visuals - AFRs are too lean on those JB tunes, needs to be in the 11s

[@jerwrx22]

@@joshgellatly7704 poeple will blow their engine if they're running base maps without making logs and changing the values to correct the afr

[@beaches2mountains230]

LOL, PEOPLE ALWAYS WANT TO SHIT ON WHATS NEW ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY HAVE THE OLD. IVE GOT AN 04' FORESTER, A 12' STI HATCH, HAD AN 18 STI BUT SOLD FOR MY 23 VB WRX. SUBARU KNOCKED IT OUT OF THE PARK WITH THESE NEW ONES. IDK WHY THESE GUYS ARE GETTING SUCH SHITTY NUMBERS BECAUSE MINE BONE STOCK PUT DOWN 262WHP DYNOJET. UNLIKE MY EJS WHICH BOOST KICKED IN LATE AND FELL OFF UP TOP( WHEN STOCK TURBO) THE FA24DIT PULLS FROM 2K RPM TO REDLINE. ONCE YOU RAISE THE FACTORY REV LIMITER AND GET A PROPER TUNE YOUR EASILY IN THE 300'S, ESPECIALLY TORQUE FIGURES. IN THE YEAR SINCE THIS HAS POSTED ALOT OF HAS CHANGED.

[@Rob...]

tuning on the newer cars is going to be so limited going forward!

[@Cichlid_Visuals]

dont these make significantly more power than this with just a small amount of ethanol (e25-e30ish) on the stock tune?

[@brianstates7336]

Yes, a lot more. My cars faster then my fbo 18 dyno tuned wrx and nothings done.

[@Cichlid_Visuals]

@@brianstates7336 are you running e30 on stock tune? Ive seen a few videos suggesting they can make 300+ to the wheels on the stock tune with e30. Combine that with the shorter gearing and it's gotta be quick.

[@brianstates7336]

JB4, but used e30 on a stock tune as well. The car can only do so much, the JB4 opens it up significantly.

[@zacharydellamano7199]

Sounds like a no-go on the risk vs reward.

[@DylanCarGuy]

They have no idea how to even use it yet.

[@DylanCarGuy]

You can manually adjust afr I'm at 11.5

[@McRex203]

@@DylanCarGuy yo Dylan I’m about to hit my 1k break in, gonna change fluids and finally put my ets intake on. I already have the ets tmic installed. Do you still have the tmic/intake set up or was it too lean with the intake?

[@DylanCarGuy]

@@McRex203 hell ya and I’ve got the intake!

[@DylanCarGuy]

@@McRex203 do you have the JB4?

[@DylanCarGuy]

These are only base numbers you can adjust the AFR I'm running 11.5 AFR 23 psi on e30

[@ITZAWRAP_AU]

What are you making at the wheels?

[@DylanCarGuy]

@@ITZAWRAP_AU just over 300

[@ITZAWRAP_AU]

Wow thats good numbers. Would be keen to see your dyno chart

[@DylanCarGuy]

@@ITZAWRAP_AU shooting for 360/400 like prime motoring just made with the JB4. It’s extremely easy to dial in once you understand what does what. I’m on Map 6 custom tune and I’ve tuned a few others on the forums. Last guy completely stock before final revisions made 288wtq

[@king_cobra3694]

Hey bro, me again 😅..what’s this forum you speak of?

[@Tallon86]

Oh we'll know!

[@thesubiefam]

Awesome video guys !! 🙌🏻 maybe some e next with more bolt ons ! 🤔

[@dom_z3480]

Top end needs to lower afr slightly

[@dom_z3480]

I would lower 5%

[@danielwallace2854]

The car comes stock with 271HP. So it makes no sense why a "tuned" version is making much much less. My 2016 WRX stock before I tuned and did mods made 268 when I dynod it at 90k, ebgine blew has 20k on it now. Making 272 stock before adding mods back in.. So I feel like a 2022 "tuned" should be over 300. I know my tuner added about 50hp alone. Mines sitting up around 550(haven't ran it since adding mods) with a stage 4 tune.

[@austinpoaurs9871]

245 whp

[@dlandzna]

Hi guys.. they say don't fix what is not broken. Ultimately after all the upgrades was it worth it especially the money u spent. Was it satisfying guys?

[@jamesg8246]

25hp by running waay too lean... not worth it. Maybe it will improve?

[@LAdumpsterbaby]

Hope so, the product is still in beta, but i'd stay away from it for now...there's horror stories on reddit

[@jamesg8246]

@@LAdumpsterbaby It's just like Cobb OTS tunes. You simply cannot make a canned tune that suits all engines, at all elevations, all fuel types and all the other variables without blowing up engines. A professional/custom tune is the way.

[@Turbolious]

@@jamesg8246 See the things is, all these maps are adjustable and us JB4 guys can just send our logs to Burger and they will adjust them without any extra charge.

[@jamesg8246]

@@Turbolious How does one safely tune a car remotely without being able to monitor the knock sensors? It sounds like this is just slapping canned tunes on it and making changes hoping the next one is better.

[@inactivemogul403]

Nice post!

[@DylanCarGuy]

Grimmspeed was wrong kzbin.info/www/bejne/mIrKf5eJlrCVaqM I really wish they actually attempted to make adjustments and use the device for what it is.

[@ChazzyMcD]

We get it, do you work for Berger? Spamming the comments bad.

[@DylanCarGuy]

@@ChazzyMcD I made one comment and one reply. I’ve had a JB4 since they came out just thought they did it a disservice by not even trying to show off the options

[@9MMSWORD]

I've seen 4 blown motors so far on the jb4. Using the lowest tune as well. Way to lean at wot. Save yourself the heartbreak and remove this junk

[@inactivemogul403]

Spit your facts man, damn! With anyone consciously logging and communicating with the makers, I doubt any of those blow outs was one of them!

[@DylanCarGuy]

It's a brand new engine without mods there is going to be failures. You need to adjust the stock map to make it safer. My AFR is in the 11's running way more boost than this on mine.

[@dirk41mavs41]

Too* you haven't seen 4 blown 22wrx motors with a tuned jb4

[@9MMSWORD]

@@dirk41mavs41 ok Karen

[@dirk41mavs41]

@@9MMSWORD good one

[@HugoHardinge]

Let’s go 🎉

[@sohctony]

HUGO!!!! nice seeing you here! -Preston Radde for the na/t page

[@HugoHardinge]

@@sohctony 🫡🫡🫡

[@ital1anstallion4]

"This program was not brought to you by JB4"

[@Christosan88]

450$ for 25hp doesn’t seem worth it. Wouldn’t a full opensource tune be way better?

[@DylanCarGuy]

They didn't go over the tq numbers which are significantly higher. $450 is the price of an intake or axle back which does 0hp over at the forums we've obtained way more power.

[@BlackestBeard]

I've seen less horsepower gains for thousands of $ more. Imo if its $450 for 25+50hp and 40tq your doing alright.

[@DylanCarGuy]

@@BlackestBeard I agree and once you make a few adjustments it unlocks a lot more power and boost. I've been running mine for many months and helped a few dozen people tune their vehicles

[@1Kaizen_Neech]

Forgot about that torque though fam.

[@DylanCarGuy]

@@1Kaizen_Neech Forreal I really wish they would have attempted to make adjustments. Mine is dialed in, so I’m in the 11’s afr wise up top which is needed with over 20 psi

[@ahhason]

Its a start to a new way but damn, seeing this makes me sadge for the future for stock ECU engine tuning.

[@brianstates7336]

Not a tune

[@ahhason]

@@brianstates7336 and?

[@brianstates7336]

Cobb changes stock ecu tuning, jb4 is a piggybag

[@walterhagans1465]

Good increase, but I'm sure you guys have in-house upgrades to eventually add on to make more power. Or at least have some in production 🤔😀👍🏾

[@danielwallace2854]

The car comes stock with 271HP. So it makes no sense why a "tuned" version is making much much less. My 2016 WRX stock before I tuned and did mods made 268 when I dynod it at 90k, ebgine blew has 20k on it now. Making 272 stock before adding mods back in.. So I feel like a 2022 "tuned" should be over 300. I know my tuner added about 50hp alone. Mines sitting up around 550(haven't ran it since adding mods) with a stage 4 tune.

[@Lolwhatajoke]

😅 the sass, way to go Art

[@HalftonJohnson]

You guys should just EJ swap it

[@Turbolious]

That would be a downgrade. Go drive a VB at a dealership and you will notice the difference of how the FA24 holds the torque all the way through the range. This engine can also hold up to 500whp on stock internals, which the EJ doesn't do reliably.

[@alphapanda8638]

@@Turbolious where are you getting this info from? I'm curious to see a 500hp 22 wrx and if so id like to check out how much $$ went into making it (reliable) . Not sure if you are just a kid behind a keyboard typing to argue on the internet but please back up your statement :) I'm genuinely curious. Thanks!

[@DylanCarGuy]

Go to map 6 turn fuel open loop to 10 go back to map 2 run it again thank me later

[@illyack5593]

Is this good for map 4?

[@DylanCarGuy]

@@illyack5593 yes sir it will richen up the fuel range it works for every map.

[@illyack5593]

@@DylanCarGuy thank you!

[@DylanCarGuy]

@@illyack5593 anytime brother I’ve got some nice instructional videos on my page explaining how to adjust the charts to make them easier to read.

[@illyack5593]

@@DylanCarGuy can you post the link here? Thank you!

[@jedwin4816]

I'd be willing to bet Subaru will be able to detect you screwed with the stock tune regardless if you remove this device before a trip to the dealer for a warranty claim.

[@DreamFSAE]

Keep in mind Subaru used to be (before a few months ago when EPA started sending out notices) notorious for installing cobb accessports and sending cars out to have them tuned 3rd party and still be covered under warranty

[@Turbolious]

@@DarkWolfWRX Haha thanks for linking me, i somehow knew it was gonna be my comment lol

[@DarkWolfWRX]

@@Turbolious The internet stranger has appeared haha! Probably good to add, based on the two claims we have seen on reddit, it further backs up what you said and went undetected!

[@VEEZER1]

no where near worth it.

[@GrimmSpeed]

It has its pros and cons. Although we are still in the beginning stages of learning the JB4 and all of its functions.

[@dougrodriguez4977]

That’s crap

[@bradgreen987]

Ugly car, no power. My '16 WRX has 340 whp, 325 torque and has more to give!

[@Kc-kr6qs]

Comparing a stock car with a piggyback to a tuned car that would have to have full bolt ons plus a larger turbo or ethanol, and anything over 350whp on 93 is starting to enter the grenaded fa20 region...real apples to apples there guy

[@inactivemogul403]

@@Kc-kr6qs lol

[@cynoshifter]

@@Kc-kr6qs I would never spend that much for 20hp gain. My 15 wrx is putting down 405 hp and 412 tq at the wheels with stock turbo, stock block, and running on 93 with no ethanol. My car has over 60k miles on it and no issues. Are you actually a mechanic or just believing numbers you found on youtube?

[@Kc-kr6qs]

@@cynoshifter ok so clearly you have an upgraded turbo or ethanol lol. Or your lying out your ass and don't know wtf your talking about. An accessport on a stock Subaru with the base map gives you what...20 to 30 horsepower. And costs more than the jb4..like?

[@jerwrx22]

@@cynoshifter these guys only ran "base" maps, actually you can ajust your afr by changing the values in the app by using the map 6. There's more power gain possible out of the jb4, just need them to get some help from someone who knows how to use it.