2023 BMW M2 vs Supra Manuals | Laptimes and Drag Race

The 2023 BMW M2, 2018 F87 M2, and 2023 Toyota Supra Manual face off in this comparison test. We drag race them and set lap times using the exact Bridgestone tire on all cars. We compare the engineering, driving character, pros, and cons, then set lap times at Autobahn Country Club. The pricing of these cars ranges from $40,000 to $70,000. Which car would you choose?
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Index:
00:00 The Story
2:14 Interior and Exteriors
6:14 Mechanical Impressions F87 M2
9:00 Mechanical Impressions G87 M2
12:04 Mechanical Impressions Supra Manual
16:50 Driving Impressions 2023 M2
20:22 Driving Impressions 2023 Supra Manual
23:50 Driving Impressions 2018 M2
27:27 Laptimes Discussion Britt Casey Jr.
31:10 Thanks and Final Thoughts

[@savagegeese]

The Official Supra Lap is 1.33.72. The typo is because I wore BMW sunglasses while editing. 28:20

[@aidangarrett7295]

Stop it, let me dream that the Supra is just that much better 😉

[@squidikka]

1337! (I'm getting old...)

[@_Chev_Chelios]

If you are an aficionado of fake vents on every panel, the supra is King. The ultimate fake-vent machine.

[@aidangarrett7295]

@@_Chev_Chelios if it bothers you, you can pay a ton more to make the vents real but then they are non-functional. Owners such as myself don't care about them.

[@dlombana161]

@@_Chev_Chelios I mean so is the RS3 but I don’t see anyone making a fuss about it. Double standards…

[@john88benson]

I like the idea that Jack's B58 cuts get progressively more edited.

[@revefamilyvideos3018]

Talk dirty to me…. Bbbbeeee 58!

[@WarriorsPhoto]

Lol 😂 It almost feels that way. 😅

[@MrMentos876]

Jack acting up for that B58ussy

[@brandonsever2576]

Jack, you have become a hell of a presenter in the last few years. Some of the best quality content anywhere on KZbin

[@jackholmes8105]

Thanks for the kind words

[@Menzo88]

@@jackholmes8105 Agreed. You do good work Jack, keep it up.

[@marekd.7350]

Agreed. Jack makes Savagegeese plural.

[@wesleyrice2138]

​@@marekd.7350Underrated comment

[@_TheWerewolf]

Especially B58 Jack

[@datboi4479]

Holy cow the Scion tC comparison for the new M2 was so damn accurate

[@datboi4479]

@@JacesOwnWorld I ain't rich enough to be on any of those pages ma boy. Still funny as hell though

[@JacesOwnWorld]

@@datboi4479 lol, I’m not either, but I join them because I like to see what the consensus is of these new model cars coming out.

[@damienlee1165]

Those prev gen M2s will age so well imo.

[@stu4181]

Yeah it was a great looking machine when it came out, I can’t see how the current M3/4 or M2 will get any better with time! Used to be a bmw fan boy 5 out of my first 7 cars were BMWs But wouldn’t own one now they’ve just somehow lost their magic

[@444BMWM4]

its starting to happen .

[@brianb5723]

Many thanks to Mark and Jack for giving me something to do at work today. Would have been boring af otherwise!

[@most_unwanted_316i]

Glad am not the only one watching these guys at work :)

[@yizhouwang7904]

same

[@Gmoney5789]

Same 😂

[@sayeedrehan]

Same haha happy Friday

[@steveo8424]

I was just late to work so I could watch it. 😁

[@justinxwest]

Jack & Goose reading my mind as always and giving me the 40-minute comparison test I needed but never asked for. Legends!

[@josueramirez8300]

The last gen M2 looked so damn good. Where did it all go wrong! Wtf is going on currently at BMW

[@TML34]

The M2 CS is the best M2 by a mile. But hideously expensive!

[@grigorioschristodoulou5229]

@@TML34 For stock, yes. But for that money you can put much better coilovers and some Schirmer kinematic bits on a Comp. I must say though, the carbon bits on the CS are nice

[@Saiyan585]

​​@@TML34 The S58 still sh... all over the S55, by a mile.

[@lloyd.8272]

@@TML34 Over priced for what it is. And still heavier then the original.

[@Antonio_bandana0u812]

Agree ! The performance of the new m2 is outstanding however , my opinion , it’s ugly as fuck .

[@bottlely]

It's about time you guys reviewed the manual Supra. B58s always seemed like great engine, and this comparison has had a long time coming. But in the real world, they'll never outrun the glorious 2024 Nissan Altima SR VC-Turbo. Nissan's upcoming Nismo track package is rumoured to include an additional 50 CVT-breaking horsepower, widebody kit hanging off the bumpers, and a turn-signal delete for maximum weight savings.

[@PlayafromtheHimalayas]

Since Toyota is using a BMW engine, Nissan is using the BMW turn signals.

[@jackholmes8105]

I heard a Altima was predicted to win le mans

[@anydaynow01]

@@PlayafromtheHimalayas Toyota is using a BMW, full stop. It's like Nissan slapping an ugly body kit and stiff shocks on an Audi S4 and calling it the new GT-R.

[@bottlely]

@@jackholmes8105 I demand an Altima track test video; if it must be a comparison test, it should include a dented beige Camry, a V6 Charger driven by a 18 year-old US Army recruit, and a R34 GT-R imported from Nippon. My money's on the Altima

[@_TheWerewolf]

Big Altima Energy brah

[@abeybaby1035]

The track analysis with the driver is a great piece, how you can see the data and the cars moving in real time through the lap with an expert driver commenting. Hands down the best drivers channel on KZbin! Thanks for all the great content!

[@jeremyd826]

Always look forward to any videos y'all come out with! I always love the amount of information that y'all share!

[@OneJuanWon]

Another great comparison collaboration - the work that goes into these is much more than a normal review. Thank you Team SG - this was a treat to watch (and learn!).

[@dominicdimarino95]

Bravo guys! This is one of the best car videos I've seen in years. I stuck with it for the entire 40+ minute run.

[@lucagattoni-celli1377]

I'm really struggling to understand the point of an M2 that is almost as big as an M4.

[@r6scrubs126]

cos the M4 got even bigger too lol give it a few years and we'll need an M0 to be what the M2 used be...which is what the M3 used to be

[@joe718gt4]

Probably just price and looks at this point... although I did talk to a dealer that said they're marking up the M2 to be essentially the same price (no markup on M4)

[@cavemankiwi]

@@r6scrubs126 Yup can;t wait for the M5 school bus.

[@esh9x153]

It gets even harder when you realize the new M2 weighs almost as much as the R35 gtr

[@lucagattoni-celli1377]

@@esh9x153This just melted my brain

[@wackit6756]

Wow! Shocked that Mark had positive comments on the Supra, seems like past videos he hated on it. For me the Supra is the most exciting and unique, always providing controversy, and is a true drivers car. Say what you will about it, but every weekend I fall in love all over again with mine!

[@ArtVandelayOfficial]

The Supra is a fine car but the styling.......... hard pass Looks wise the only one here that's acceptable is the F87

[@jackshepard7966]

@@ArtVandelayOfficial I love the way the Supra looks. It’s part of the reason I bought one

[@itcangetbetter]

The pre-release photos of the Supra were amazing. I was so excited, cash in hand. Then I saw the final, bulbous, squashed, mini horse looking thing they released. Total bummer

[@SereneSpeed]

@@itcangetbetter I found it closer to the concept than expected, given what I’ve seen in the past with concepts.

[@ROVA00]

@@itcangetbetter you honestly expected the concept to go into production?? Lol

[@BemelGaming]

Another 1 of these long format comparisons, something you 2 really have mastered over the years. Fantastic cinematography and the technical know-how is very real. Never stop making these as you are 1 of the best. Next would be doing a road trip or such? Just your favorite (or maybe your own) and see where the road takes you.

[@TheMarkcu24]

Haven't started watching, haven't read any comments. Just wanted to say how excited I am to watch this comparison. It is exactly what I have been waiting for!

[@davewallace9048]

The best description of all three cars I have ever heard anybody ever explain!! Right on point!!

[@infidel900rr]

Another awesome video from the Savages!! Thanks for the entertainment - this one was fun to watch. 👍

[@debsarker8005]

Now I’m really curious to see how the last M2 Comp would compare to the new M2. Similar engines, similar brakes, but the last one was about 300lbs lighter.

[@HollowM2]

It was only 100 pounds lighter. They are fat lol

[@selkies888]

This 10000%. Would love to see a test to show how the new M2 compares to the M2C around corners.

[@debsarker8005]

@@HollowM2 214 lbs lighter to be exact. But the car itself was smaller too. I think it’ll be similar result but I’m still very curious to see their impression video

[@postalpancho]

I'm pretty sure someone has already compared the M2 comp to the Supra last year and the Supra was a bit faster. The Supra was benchmarked against the M2 comp so it makes sense that the Supra is a little bit faster.

[@papa_pt]

​@@postalpancho on a small track I could believe that given the weight and size advantage. However that M2 actually had usable rear seats

[@ChrisJones-yh2os]

Love this format with driving impressions + discussion with Britt. Super informative!

[@MrRad21]

You guys continue to put out the best produced, most informative and relevant content and always add a sense of humor. Kudos!

[@ericm8368]

Yessss! Been waiting for someone to do this comparison. Thank you!!

[@Ski-P]

Thank you for this review!!

[@sephiros9883]

If anyone is considering tracking a N55 M2, a set of camber plates upfront fixes basically everything. It's amazing.

[@mikedockal8978]

also a simple strut bar helps

[@lloyd.8272]

I’m wondering how the alignment was on the older m2. Never heard of these issues before.

[@sephiros9883]

@@lloyd.8272 every single m2 owner who tracks a bit seriously will have camber plates. Bmw is notorious to be super conservative with camber out of the factory. The other thing is aero, I don’t know autobahn, it seems to be a fast track. The rear of FXX cars is pretty squirmy at high speed and is lacking aero. That’s why the M235iR has this huge wing. It makes a big difference. A guy at my local track with a M4 went full aero and shaved almost 4 seconds because of the confidence gained.

[@americanAlienBoy]

Jack “Feels like an Alfa?” Hey, if you’re leaking like one, better get your prostate checked.

[@americanAlienBoy]

If you do buy an OG N55 M2, and you do any autocross or track stuff, ditch the plastic charge pipe. When it blows up, best case scenario is you can zip-tie it together well enough to get you home with no boost (DAMHIK). There are several aluminum aftermarket solutions which will never break.

[@nicholasfrisch244]

Love these comparison videos. Can’t wait for the hot hatch one!

[@abrakadabra2790]

Very keen to watch this! Your content is insanely good👍

[@maxmillion125]

I love this channel and the quality and content are top notch, everything I can think of is covered in this video!

[@YuriTereshyn]

Stoked for this video.

[@michaelluttmer2486]

Love my OG LBB M2 Manual for all the reasons stated after owning a A90 Supra and just couldn't live with the lack of interior usability. On the M2, with some different shocks, springs the front grip problems go away. And the braking is fantastic with some PFC08's and motul or SRF brake fluid. A wider square wheel setup also dials everything in. Also, the OG and maybe new Supra can run 18 wheels instead of 19, so you save money in track wheels, can go wider potentially, and more variety in track tire options.

[@jakemarshall2343]

That was maybe the best car comparison video I have ever seen. Great work. As an enthusiast who flogs his car on the street and track daily and invests significant money in chassis/suspension, etc. modifications, your thoroughness was greatly appreciated.

[@jaydaley1294]

This is a fantastic review. Well done, and thank you!

[@aaronlabeau]

Another great review from Savagegeese. I love the honest, non pandering opinion, deep dive tech and counterpoints. Especially reviewing cars for what's still a lot of money but somewhat attainable. I'm so over KZbin fantasy fill in the blank supercar videos. Ugh, I just dropped off the Ferrari to get it fixed so I'll review the Lambo today guys, barf.

[@UCLAKoolman]

The MKV Supra is such a fantastic deal. Love that B58.

[@gilbertferguson1685]

Great review guys, thanks.

[@Rfk1966]

Great video guys. Makes me feel even better about my recent purchase of a low-mile 2017 M2

[@harrycwb]

Another incredible work, keep these comparison videos coming! So awesome so see this video released just 3 days after I took delivery of my OG M2. I drove it less than 40 miles so far, but it's clear that it is a completely different toy to what I currently have, a JDM 1.5 ND MX-5. Through my work I can experience heaps of new cars, and was fortunate to drive the manual Supra and the G87 M240i which helped me make the decision. I plan on only keeping one of those two cars, so now I embark on a soul searching mission to decide whether I like Silverback Gorilla drifting as much as Jack to sell the MX-5!

[@SphinxRacing]

This test would have made a little more sense with the S55 M2. But well done.

[@lloyd.8272]

Personally think it was a better contrast adding a older more accessible car to the review.

[@stefanfreestylez]

@@lloyd.8272 agreed with the s55 the gap would be muchhhh closer. The car with bugger price difference/better accessibility to most people is a better option for sure.

[@thomaslam6821]

Great video guys! 👍👍👍

[@Eddie-loves-cars]

I absolutely love the videos and content. Please keep up the amazing work you guys do. I love Jack and Mark and all of their funny extra little add-ins they do.

[@dylanjutagir3272]

Jack's reviewing has come such a long way. Great comparison test. Seems like just yesterday young Jack was being plopped into 370z 50th Anniversary editions on his own and abandoned by Mark in public parks.

[@aceofspades6667]

these glasses are 🔥 sir goose.. my 80 year old grandfather and grandmother had matching sets of those in the 80's and early 90's. It looks every bit as good now as it did on them that day. Just a classic and never goes out of style.

[@geemiami6251]

Great video, great content and great arguments 😊

[@josephcitizen4195]

Thank for the reddit convo Jack! Had to wait until I got home to watch but was well worth it.

[@onurdmetu]

G87 M2 polarizes people into two camps: "it's hideous" and "it's not terrible"

[@grigorioschristodoulou5229]

"Looks OKish in black" is another camp

[@qna95B]

"I will eventually warm up to it/Its growing on me" is a third 😂

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

I don't mind it. IMO the only 2 good looking cars BMW ever made were the Z3 and 3.0 CSL. The rest are either bland or ugly. This is right in line with tradition.

[@grigorioschristodoulou5229]

@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 To be fair E63 6 series and Z4 (M) coupe have aged like fine wine in my eyes. But many people still don't like them. Bangle was 20 years ahead of his time

[@mikedockal8978]

There are people who genuinely like the new design. They obviously can't drive it because they are blind.

[@lf4_greg]

“The manual doesn’t feel nearly as good as the Blackwing” was all I needed to hear. Glad I made the right choice. Your videos are awesome!

[@apexak]

Always a joy to watch your channel ❤

[@bowhun2r]

Well done. The best 40 minutes I did today.

[@deanos1993]

I have been using the RE71RS in my S2000 - Stock 16' wheels. Very capable tyre and performs surprisingly well in the wet - all things considered

[@Ripperx121]

So I just got the new Z4 M40i. It's funny all of these cars are more than I can handle. It's a good time to be a car guy.

[@dougshugarts3105]

This is a great review. Well done.

[@CDOES]

You two never dissapoint! Absolutely top notch work.

[@AR-ld8qd]

The fact that you two can now drive your assess off while talking is almost as impressive as the visuals and editing. Bonus points to Mark for wearing his protective goggles in anticipation of Jack’s “dorifto” emissions.

[@Roddy451]

Just like on the first review of the current M2, once you see the Scion TC, you can't get it out of your brain. I would definitely take the OG M2. Yes, it is the slowest car, but the attributes and dynamics are a good compromise. Anyhoo, great review and production from the Geese... even if sometimes they agree not to agree.

[@lloyd.8272]

Definitely an amazing car. Has some good things going for it. Lighter than a cs, has the noise, arguably looks better than a comp and a it alot of fun to drive.

[@joshdominguez341]

True af and that’s why you get the Og bmw m2 competition for more power

[@olegkulyak]

You guys are the best, great video.

[@cayman9873]

Sweet video thanks

[@jshizzle2097]

Thank you for putting them on the same tires. Shows the true difference in capabilities. Curious how well the 2019-2021 M2 competition would have done with more than 400 horsepower. Thanks for the great content.

[@MrSandChess]

Glad to see Jack B58 is now an official part of the savagegeese crew. He definitely adds really good and useful inputs to videos.

[@steve8032]

Great comparison!

[@sm76277]

No other channel even compares, great work!

[@richardh3587]

I can’t even imagine how many times Jack will mention the b58 in this. Going to save this for Friday night

[@ClassyDingo]

Proud to be a b58 owner. My wife’s boyfriend likes to borrow my car

[@tfrogginhfroggin]

Great review

[@CaptainRex-sl4xk]

Great. Video thank you

[@HHlah]

OG M2 Represent!!

[@bto7779]

Haven’t even started watching but already, this must be one of the best car comparisons in all of automotive history. Well done guys!!!

[@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow]

Great vid!

[@Matness23]

Looking at these as potential upgrades from my WRX. I test drove a 2020 cpo M2 Comp. This. Video reinforces that would be the right move.

[@masterkendro]

This video is a dream come true, finally savagegeese gives my car (OG M2) some love! Great work guys.

[@BarbWaltersMusic]

Ive had a 17 M2 and the GR Supra and that N55 will always sound so fucking good compared to the new 6's

[@willjam465]

Awesome video, as always! What a great comparison. And now I will never be able to unsee what Mark said about the design of the new M2. Hilarious…

[@antonberest8384]

Thank you Tyler for bringing an og M2👏🏻 We’ve all heard and watched M2 comp in many videos but the og M2 is a great car that people don’t give much credit. Great video as always 👏🏻👏🏻

[@chrisginoc]

S58>B58. Not even a fair comparison. I have a 2023 A91 6MT and I'll give my thoughts. M2 G87 if you want daily driving comfort and out of the box speed. Supra if you want a 2nd car or weekend car fun and easy tuneability because tuning a B58 is less expensive and there are so many upgrade options. If you enjoy building, go Supra B58. M2 F87 if you want budget fun that you can also build and don't want to break the bank because it's used and less expensive.

[@ravenbergdev]

How are you guys driving so intense, yet having a chill conversation

[@cliftonjackson441]

Holy ish. You guys got a monetized video! Congrats 👏 sorry if it's not the first but I've literally never gotten an ad on any of your videos until watching this one tonight

[@Post_Leako]

I mainly watched to hear your thoughts on the manual Supra, would still love to see a dedicated video on that car even if it's only 10 minutes or whatever. Great video!

[@squidikka]

Thanks for comparing and testing all 3 of these BMWs. The BMW Supra is missing the kidney grilles though, not sure what BMW was thinking.

[@curtr.5083]

Great video guys thanks! I am a little surprised you ran the OG M2 compared to the Competition; the sharpness and power differences are pretty significant. If we could get the manual CS in there that would be the dream but I will take what I can get, lol. I believe the M2 CS is the only manual CS-trimmed car, for whatever that is worth.

[@chrisginoc]

The Manual CS is not a fair comparison to the G87. Once the G87 CS comes out next year or 2025 then it should be fair

[@grigorioschristodoulou5229]

What sharpness difference? All suspension bits have same part numbers between OG and Comp

[@RRSmurf]

"But doncha miss it now!" 😂😂😂 The Dragtimes soundtrack for the drag 👌🏼😅

[@ang5738]

I've been waiting so long for this.

[@user-wz4fw2ws1s]

OG M2 is just a special machine. Often slated for not having an S engine and poor seats, however, this will be more appreciated as time progresses.

[@mogulme6190]

The n55 is weak no matter how you slice it…a special car needs a special engine or at least a competent engine and the n55 isn’t that in my opinion

[@chrisginoc]

The N55 does sound good stock. Emissions going in the way of the S55 sound glorious stock.

[@user-wz4fw2ws1s]

@@mogulme6190 Fair, no opinion is incorrect. However, the 1M often hailed as one of the greats, does not feature an S engine. A special car compromises of more than just an engine, in my opinion.

[@pushdaenvelope]

@@user-wz4fw2ws1s this is a great point! I myself picked up the M2C recently but would have been happy with the n55 as well. What steered me to the M2C was, yes, the true M (s55) engine, still getting some warranty left and having to do next to nothing to get it track ready (bigger brakes & cooling). The OG M2 does require some work on that front...especially at high elevation where I'm at (cooling issues exacerbated)

[@cwx8]

the seats were ugly but better. I have owned the OG and now have an M2C and prefer the usability and comfort of the original seats.

[@muhammadmore]

Dear Jack Holmes, I hope this letter finds you well. My name is BMW, and I am writing to you today about a topic that is very close to my heart: the B58 engine. To put it simply, the B58 is the greatest piece of human creation since dinosaurs. As a machine, it is truly a marvel of engineering. Its power, efficiency, and reliability are unmatched by any other engine on the market today. From the moment I first heard the growl of the B58's exhaust, I knew that I was witnessing something truly special. The way it effortlessly propels my vehicle forward, with an almost otherworldly sense of power and control, is nothing short of exhilarating. But the B58 is more than just a powerful engine. It is also an engine that is built to last. Its durability and longevity are a testament to the skill and dedication of the engineers who designed it. I can trust the B58 to keep running smoothly for years to come, no matter what challenges lie ahead. In short, Jack, the B58 is a true masterpiece of human engineering. It represents the pinnacle of what we can achieve when we put our minds to it. I feel incredibly lucky to have access to this amazing piece of technology, and I know that I will never tire of the thrill of driving a vehicle powered by the B58. Thank you for taking the time to read this letter, Jack. I hope that you share my enthusiasm for the B58, and that you will continue to support this incredible engine for years to come. Best regards, BMW

[@teratronwrx1]

Epic comparison boys!

[@coolaa7]

Nice work guys.

[@LongWalker730]

Love the "Gas Gas Gas" on the soundtrack selection in the supra. Good to see Jack delivering tofu so efficiently.

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

Gives me some Deja Vu.

[@BMWROYAL]

As a bmw fan I’m so shocked how much of a weight difference helps making the Supra faster than the m2. I really wish bmw would of made a hard top z4 then throw s58 in there for an M version

[@rgstar7702]

Get a Cayman or Emira

[@mino070382]

What a great video, I wish an m2 comp. was available for comparison. Keep up the great work guys!

[@Kacpa2]

But Comp doesnt have the manual...

[@mino070382]

@@Kacpa2 mine does

[@boosted6gen765]

That Dragtimes easter egg at the beginning, you guys always killing it.

[@MrVara411]

YESSSSSSSSSS!!! Great comparison! Love the OG F87 M2. It may not be the fastest, but it's gorgeous, balanced, and sounds amazing. Used versions of this car will give you 9/10 the new model and easy mods can make it a reliable performance monster.

[@DexxonGamer77]

OG M2 is the best, it's not even a question. Honestly if you are thinking of buying any of these just save a bit more money around 20k and get an M2cs. You won't regret it. It's a different class!

[@ZackNakazora1]

Jack has done a great job. You two are killing it out there deep diving into what each car is supposed to do and how it does it. This level of car seems really like if you had the focus st or the frs or even a mustang and you wanted to go the next level (outside those with the mach1/pp2 mustang) the standard is now supra or m2 (z is lagging here 😢) great comparo!

[@billshoe22191]

No comparison is perfect and you guys did an amazing job keeping things as comparable as possible. Thank you for doing such a great job. I would be very curious how a F87 M2 Comp would fare in this test. That said the new M2 is so heavy and unattractive in my eyes that no amount of performance can make me desire to own one. If I could afford a manual Supra it would be my choice of these three here. Love the F87 gen M2 as well as it was the last BMW drivers car if you want to call the Supra a Toyota product. Btw love the Garmin data on the lap times. Really helps illustrate the differences in turns and braking.

[@ericm8368]

In all the comparisons of the M2 Comp and OG M2 the cornering speed is fairly similar, but the M2 comp has a higher speed on the straights by 5-7 mph depending on the straight length (135ish vs 140sh). So on a small track like this it'd maybe be up 0.5-1 sec on the OG M2. Still probably the slowest car here. In Car and Driver's lightning lap the 2016 M2 ran a 3:01.9 and a 2019 M2 Comp ran a 2:59.7. Only 2 sec different and that was on the huge VIR circuit with plenty of straight to show off the S55 advantage. Add an intercooler and tune to the OG M2 and it'd be the same.

[@danlee3939]

Weird how nobody has reviewed the RWD G42 M240i yet. Would love to see your take on the most affordable B58-powered car currently in production!

[@lucianholbrook3966]

you sound like a BMW salesman lol

[@MrRockrazer]

But why when I could have a supra?

[@danlee3939]

Depends on what you're looking for. The Supra is better dynamically (lighter with a lower center of gravity), but the M240i is much more livable on the street (more space, better ergonomics/visibility). Also, you can easily order an M240i to spec and pay MSRP or less, unlike the Supra where you have to just hope one of the few Toyota dealers that aren't adding markups gets allocated the spec you want. Realistically, it's $5-10k less for an M240i similarly equipped, and BMW financing has better rates right now. Shit, I really do sound like a BMW salesman.

[@dj1nnie]

@@danlee3939 you can also add that the m240i has better comfort suspension with the adaptive M suspension , 4 seats and a very decent trunk space making it a miles ahead as better daily driver

[@Swiggityswagger]

Can’t get a manual. That’s why nobody Cross shops it with any of these.

[@rdab700]

You earned my humble subscribe with this one guys.

[@jarrodhaas]

Hands down best review channel out there

[@russellmatthesen9256]

Save the manuals!

[@paulbugoni2846]

Fridays always better with a SG video! Great comparison as usual from the best car channel (both content and production)on KZbin. I’d buy a Camaro ZL1 over a fully loaded M2 FWIW…

[@TML34]

ZL1?? That's like 650 hp, isn't it? I don't think that's really a comparator, maybe an SS. And you still can't see out of them.

[@johnsullivan8673]

I can’t see anything out of the ‘maro.

[@yuriteixeira5816]

agreed, hard to be a track ready weapon like a ZL1

[@paulbugoni2846]

@@johnsullivan8673 buddy has daily driven Mustangs for years, picked up an SS and has used it as a DD and says you get used to it re outward vision. Has a ZL1 on order and will dd that also. He works for an auto group and was a BMW fan for years but as he says there’s nothing like a v-8. On another note the new M2 is awfully heavy.

[@paulbugoni2846]

@@TML34 I think they are both around 72k so yes IMHO in terms of price they are competitors.

[@azikosha]

I fixed the front end problem on N55 M2 by installing the camber plates (-3). Reprogrammed DCT, Steering, DSC and rear diff, Performance pads and the car has transformed! Tune the engine to the stage 2+ with little budget and you get the car on the same performance level.

[@Joolz1982]

Loved this comparison was also great to see what bits the GR Supra pulled from that M2 also.

[@catfi5h336]

G87 dimensions and weight are most comparable to E92. Very similar in specs.. It’s actually what makes the new M2 attractive to me