2023 Ford F-250 Tremor Towing Test! Can This Off-Road Super Duty Still Handle Work?

[@michaellawcobb2693]

Good to see. Do some new Tremor off road stuff, in the CDN bush and on trails.

[@TruckKing]

That's coming next! Stay tuned

[@hasley84]

I support all Canadians that wear an American Flag Shirt.

[@ronlewis6766]

In 2020 I bought a F350 Tremor 7.3. I towed a 2020 Grand Design 303RLS Fifth Wheel. It towed up any mountain/grade at 65+. Most People that bad mouth the 7.3 have never towed with one or don’t have the 4.30 rear.

[@ryansheard8092]

What MPG do you get both empty and while hauling?

[@ronlewis6766]

In the 8’s towing(62-65). City around 11-13. Depending on how much fun I was having.

[@jonathanbeam6898]

I tow 16k to 18k behind my truck, skid steer and MIni Excavators. I'm wondering which package to get. I like the 4.3 gearing on the Tremor but the payload is higher on just a non tremor standard F350 SRW XL or XLT, correct? It's hard to get the 4.3 rear end if you don't get the tremor pacakge. You can order one from the factory or buy a cab and chassis truck off the lot with the 4.3 rear but I'm trying to blend in to my neighborhood doubling it as a daily driver. And Cab and Chassis with flat beds are DOT magnets. I'm non CDL.

[@NMTrucks]

I love the Tremor as an option. We have a ranch that is very remote, an hour from any town, and the road to it is dirt road and rough. There is even a small river crossing. But we have to tow and haul things up there and that truck is ideal.

[@kylebutler7142]

Man those camera views are great! And such a clear image! I wouldn't mind betting the flat battery is a problem with the electrics in your backhoe and not the battery itself. Disconnect the battery when you ain't gonna use the Gravedigger for awhile. Put that old battery on trickle-charge.

[@adamharriger5193]

Just bought a nearly identical ‘23 F250 Tremor with a few more options (moonroof, upfitter switches etc). Oddly despite more options I have 3261 lbs of payload. Paid $68k which was $2k below sticker here in NY. Exceptional truck, pulls our travel trailer incredibly well with better fuel economy towing than my previous 1/2 ton. The ride in the new Superduty is incredibly nice for an HD truck. Even unloaded I don’t feel that I gave up much comfort to my 1/2 ton. Having always wanted a Powerwagon but never being able to get one due to the weak payload, I’m thankful to Ford for coming up with the perfect combination of offroad and towing/hauling capability. Can’t wait to see more great videos of this truck!

[@krisk5585]

Where in NY? I've been looking and dealers near me are scummy

[@kidamere2408]

I would have went out of state 17 percent off msrp here in ohio,still way overpriced however

[@adamharriger5193]

@@krisk5585 Southern Tier area, it did take me 2 weeks of negotiating to get to a deal I liked. Finding a Tremor is not easy, my local dealer usually only gets around 2-4 per year.

[@raulgool]

Thank you for sharing! Did you consider F350? Will NY, NJ charge more registration fee each year? Also how do you feel about the ride quality of tremor? I’m deciding between having Tremor or not, and F250 or F350. Thanks in advance!!

[@ZR1Terror]

$68k that’s a good deal!!

[@ryansheard8092]

The Tremor package also imcludes a limited slip front axle. That makes a lot of difference off-road. The 7.3L is the way to go. The VAST majority of folks buying SDs dont need the diesel it juat makes them feel good about their small....you know what.

[@oldnumber6]

Why does it concern you whether other people need a diesel or not? People buy what they want with their money.

[@barryweigle1356]

That is true

[@daveallen7767]

Great review guys ! My choice would be Supercab & 8 foot bed. Wonder what payload would be with that combo on XLT & no sunroof ?

[@icare7151]

Well done my friends up North🇨🇦

[@4-LOW]

Crazy to think that you'd have to connect three of those gas engines together to make the same torque as the Power Stroke H.O. engine.

[@timcartwright4679]

You'll be in a much lower gear though at any given road speed. So due to torque multiplication you should see similar numbers at the tires.

[@melgreer104]

Great content. I’d like to see you discuss the F250 / F350 Tremor rear suspension compared to that standard F250 / F350 trucks.

[@rockie307]

I could be wrong but I think the only difference is the leaf spring block is 3 1/4" vs the regular 2" blocks. Also tremor shocks. My fx4 is identical except the shocks and 1 1/4" higher blocks. I do have the 10,500 lb package so that might be why my axle and springs are the same.

[@ChasteConversation]

Agreed

[@Alexander-fr1kk]

I like the 35’s - I wish GM would put larger tires on their off road trucks

[@proudamerican5518]

General Motors really needs a wheel wheel redesign if they want to run larger tires. Those squared off corners really inhibit tire diameter.

[@Thankyou_3]

Awesome video ❤ Thank you Ford for not putting a Hybrid or EV on this Tremor HD. Diesel or gasoline is the only way to go when towing and hauling.

[@fasttoyo]

"freggin thing weighs a tuhn" - lol most canadian car channel ever. btw, you forgot to mention the Tremor is the only way to get a mechanical front LSD in the Super Duty.

[@leefrazier]

Great review. Want more high end 3/4 trucks. Thanks

[@jonathanbeam6898]

Tremor is one of the only trucks that comes with 4.30 gears. If you buy the 3.73 gear with 32 or 33 inch tires and then throw 35 or 37 inch tires, it will decrease your towing power. Right? I would imagine the real world gear ratio in terms of pulling power would be about the same with 3.73 gears and smaller tires vs 4.30 gears with 35's.

[@craigwflys]

Just learned that the bottom hoops of those two tie downs on the tailgate are bottle openers.

[@Wyoboy7220]

Wow you're testing the exactly truck i would buy if i could(lol never could)

[@FlyingAceAV8B]

Can’t wait to get my hands on mine. 10-14k lbs is what I need to pull.

[@RonnN-gf8tm]

3155 lbs...isn't that a ton n a half.??.. sounds like pretty decent payload numbers..

[@JohnSmith-ev1sm]

Agree with your comments, but you kind of compared it to the wrong Ram. The Tremor competes with the HD Rebel, power wagon is in a different class of offroad, rebel and tremor are just "good 4x4"s.

[@drewelliott9062]

Nice truck. I love the camera views.

[@richardguse3410]

Hey, at 11:28 ....when did BFGoodrich and GoodYear jointly build a tire? The Tremor is a great package if you can justify the inflated price.

[@armedprophet3321]

I always love to hear the non diesel owners try to rationalize why they got the gasser when deep down they just didn’t want to pony up the 12k (American dollars). When in reality it’s cheaper to own the diesel (if you keep your truck greater then a few years) because of the huge difference in mileage. So doing the math including maintenance you get your 12k back in about 5 years if you actually use your truck as a daily driver like I do. The fact is that the diesel does every single thing better than the gasser does and does it 10 times better. And yes the diesel option for the Tremor, because it’s the new High Output diesel cost 12k (American) but the regular diesel that you can get in almost every other trim level is 9950k (American). I didn’t believe the diesel Tremor was actually going to get 18 miles in the city and 21 on the highway until I saw it myself and did the hand calculations (not the lie-o-meter). And towing about the same weight on the highway it gets about 13 - 15 depending on conditions.

[@rockie307]

The diesel does pull better but most folks buying a tremor are doing so for off road ability. The diesel weights several hundred lbs more up front making it much less capable offroad and also wearing out the suspension bearings tierods etc much faster. Also diesel has trouble idling offroad on slow trails will break down become much more expensive. Off road the gas engine is better in every way actually also you probably didn't add breakdowns and shop time to your expense comparisons. Insurance on the diesel is higher too so financially and off road the gas engine is better Pulling heavy loads down the highway the diesel wins. Pick the best tool for the job your doing or just pick what you like free country.

[@FlyingAceAV8B]

What I find funny is when diesel fans tell us all about how much they save in fuel by totally excluding the 1-1.50/gal additional fuel cost on a good….while also not mentioning the additional cost of DEF. Yea bro, you’ll really make that 10-12k price difference with all that fuel you will “save” over about 10 years. Diesel fans sound very much like electric car owners who love you tell about not needing to go to the gas station for 5 mins but never mention the hours they spend sitting at chargers that may or may not work in shady areas. All I gotta say is, cool story bro.

[@armedprophet3321]

@@FlyingAceAV8BMy guess is you just can’t afford a real truck 😂😂😂

[@PhilipBirx-wb8oq]

Could you guys test the 2024 Chevrolet Silverado 2500 HD ZR2 Bison, please? Thank you!

[@AtotheK17]

Can anyone confirm or deny that the tremor 250 and 350 have the same rear springs?

[@WHavriloRT]

*Goodyear Duratracs.

[@alh9338]

Doesn't really matter what I think. People don't understand what their vehicle is capable of in the first place. If they want to roll around on Glitz & Glam then why not get the package? Barnum & Bailey said there is a fool born every moment😂

[@johnpeters9793]

"There's a sucker born every minute" is a phrase closely associated with P. T. Barnum, an American showman..." You're correct on one thing...doesn't really matter what you think...

[@Travisj9935]

Bfgoodrich Duratracs? 😂

[@martinmdl6879]

Only a bird brain would order a Lariat without the pwr running boards. On the lower trims that is a $1000 option. On Lariat and above, just check the box for ZERO extra money.

[@keaganlockwood9294]

Please tell me the backhoe’s nickname is Grave Digger?

[@TruckKing]

yes, but my wife gets mad if I call it that around her; keeps telling the kids to look for fresh earth if she disappears.

[@jimsmarketingcode3147]

To save an extra $7000.00 from not buying a diesel sounds stupid as most people finance their truck unless you have more money than brains but that is a small percentage, it's going to cost you another 60.00 a month when you finance so I would go with the diesel over the gas just to know I have more torque than not enough going uphill.

[@jackpitw]

It's $12,495 extra which equates to more like $200 more a month. $60 a month would take over 17 years to pay off that cost and that doesn't include interest. Diesel certainly has more HP and Torque but it is a lot more $ than you mention.

[@jimsmarketingcode3147]

@@jackpitw Nope according to the video they are promoting they are saying its only a 7000.00 upgrade if you listen to the video.

[@jackpitw]

@@jimsmarketingcode3147 then they must have misspoken- the diesel engine upgrade is $12,495 for the HO version, 9,995 for the standard. Tremor package can only be upgraded to the HO. I just had dealer work up an order for a 2024 and the HO diesel was 12,495. I'd order 5 of them if it was only 7 grand more, lol !

[@jimsmarketingcode3147]

@@jackpitwyou're getting ripped off my friend You got to shop around, when you buy groceries do you take the first price lol

[@jimsmarketingcode3147]

@@jackpitw listen to the video at 15.40 they say 7000.00 upgrade so I'm going by their price they must know where I can buy it for that price so over 96 months you would only pay 72.00 a month.

[@brennan5220]

Duratracs are not BFGs!! They are junky Goodyears 😢😢😢

[@kuhndog-1196]

I mean to be completely fair, you put a set of bags on a Power Wagon and it will tow 12 or 13k no problem. It might chew up some fuel and technically be illegal, it wouldn't be an issue.

[@FlyingAceAV8B]

12 or 13 is still a ways away from 18+ from the factory for a lower price.

[@kuhndog-1196]

@FlyingAceAV8B oh I agree. I'm not saying it will absolutely tow like a regular 2500. I'm just saying that it is a little under rated if you ask me.

[@FlyingAceAV8B]

@@kuhndog-1196 I do wish though that the power wagon was like the tremor. I would have loved to replace my 2014 1500 hemi with it.

[@kuhndog-1196]

@FlyingAceAV8B I mean now they have the rebel HD which is supposed to fill that void. God only knows why they decided on 20's but it's there. Would be nice if it had at least a mechanical front locker but oh well. The rear locker will be fine for most offroading. You'll never take that truck where the power wagon will go.

[@gdulaudi]

new superduties are mad ugly, this is the only decent looking trim/package.

[@wint_62]

*GoodYear Wrangler Duratracs & just say NO to Ford.

[@is6566]

What’s wrong with Duratrac? At one point they came on practically all off-road focused trucks. Power Wagon, ZR2, F250 Tremor. I use them on all my trucks and Jeep. Awesome tires. Excellent in dry, in wet, on snow and even ice. No hydroplaning. Great traction on and off road. Only drawback I found is that it will reduce your fuel efficiency by about 2 MPG. On 8,000 pound vehicles (actual weight not GVWR) I can get about 35,000 miles out of a set. Not cheap though but quality never is in life.

[@marcelo403polo2]

@@is6566 my experience is those are junk, never again. Always were out of balance, uneven wear and noisy like hell. You name it. Were good only first year. BTW, because of all shaking etc I had to prematurely replace whole front end. GMC SIerra 3500HD. Im using BF Goodrich KO2 now and is day and night different. BTW those duratracs supposed to be good for 50K miles not just 35K

[@is6566]

@marcelo… No offense but what you described sounds more of an alignment issue not the tire itself. So far on multiple vehicles I drove about 120,000 miles on Duratrac. On four vehicles. On a F150 I am on third set (80k miles). On my diesel GMC 3500 I am at 22k miles in eight months. All other trucks, Jeep on first set, less driving, less mileage but all good. I never experienced anything you described. I always make sure the tires are professionally mounted and balanced and the vehicle is aligned.

[@marcelo403polo2]

@@is6566 alignment was corrected 3 times during time I had duratracs on. Actually in same tire shop, just in case they would try blaming anyone else

[@rockie307]

​@@marcelo403polo2 Never had duratrac but something was wrong with the truck. I've been beating the hell out of my f150 in the Rockies so bad I have missing lugs on my mud tires. Truck still tracks straight forever no uneven tire wear and that's with 150,000 miles. If your truck can't hold alignment with a a/t tire something is wrong with it need to check it out.

[@1148bucknasty]

Need to airbrush grave digger paint job on that backhoe

[@scottbbarry1723]

Goodyear not bf goodrich

[@TruckKing]

Thanks. Total slip of the tongue on that one!

[@Billybob50119]

Another big reason to get a gas over a diesel is the emission issues that come with a diesel

[@ripfletching]

The trimmer package also has the heaviest springs available on the HD

[@richardwoodworth549]

The main thing with the Tremor is the torsen front differential in my opinion

[@proudamerican5518]

I was just looking through the comments to see if somebody pointed this out. That’s a huge deal to me, much bigger than a small lift or a set of tires.

[@rockie307]

I couldn't find a 23 tremor so bought a fx4 put the tremor rear block and u bolts adding a elocker up front and a small 1 1/4"lift. 35.3 m/ts fit at stock height no rub so all in I'm looking at about 4000 dollars added to have simular capability but a real locker up front. I still would've got a tremor if I could have found one without getting gouged but overall I'm coming out much cheaper this way. I believe the trail turn assist will be the only thing I'll be missing but pretty sure I wouldn't use that where I offroad dragging tires on jagged rocks will tear them up anyway.

[@jackpitw]

I think the Torsen option is only on the F-150 Tremors... SD's get a traditional LS

[@richardwoodworth549]

My 2020 F350 Tremor has the Torsen front diff@@jackpitw

[@mojo4376]

Those Duratracs suck. I wish it had BFGs.

[@dannykrauskopf7404]

Another excellent Video Review!!! You guys are Awesome!!! 😃

[@milanhorky289]

@Truck King Did you test MPG with towing your trailer 10K?

[@JustinKingOffroad]

i traded in my power wagon 4 months ago because it was awesome offroad, but sucked a truck stuff on road. found me a superduty diesel (not tremor) and it's obviously better at truck stuff, and struggles offroad, but I don't need to offroad it much.

[@vancity_coaster]

You officially have your own grave digger lol That is my dream new truck right now!

[@scottyellis3442]

Steve said BFGOODRICH but shows a Goodyear. LOL

[@Lucky4zo]

I bet you’re proud of yourself.

[@CraigSmith568]

I'm wondering how much that backhoe weighs and if you could have just loaded it on the trailer. Good looking truck, just not a fan of black.

[@TruckKing]

Hoe is 13,500 lb - too much for that trailer

[@marksman4004]

Looks really good and mean in black.

[@32543219]

Ok you always forget the Tremor limited slip front axle, arguably the major improvement over the FX4, and all other heavy duty off road offerings except the Power Wagon.

[@duggydo]

I'd like to see your dad buy a F350 SRW with a 7.3 gas for towing his 5th wheel. That would make for some great videos.

[@WHavriloRT]

I was told here in the states by an Americas Tire associate that they were discontinuing the Duratracs. You guys know anything about that?

[@RonnN-gf8tm]

Right on...still two hours before work.... thanks for sending it out early Steve!!!

[@sferg9582]

Looks like that tractor is quite used to picking up "dead" weight.

[@rabayl01]

How did that 10speed transmission shift? I've had a clunky experience with my Ford transmissions

[@kylebutler7142]

Like butter

[@steelgatorcrimsontide7403]

So could this easily tell a toy hauler 😊

[@monoped_adventures]

Love that little Caae 480F!

[@mario-sl6cz]

What about the xl off-road?