The OBS Ford F-250 7.3L Power Stroke vs World’s Toughest Towing Test: It Did NOT Go Well!

[@steffenrecords9970]

I want a complete series of old diesels. Starting from trucks in the 80s

[@guardrail2897]

I love the old square body Chevys but the 6.2 diesels they used were junk. They didn't start using the better 6.5 diesel until early 90s.

[@stevengiordano1490]

No one wants to see idi trucks do anything 🙄

[@leehall5447]

You can’t have it go home

[@SeanAlegator]

80s cars and trucks are absolute junk. That decade had to focus on fuel emissions due to the horrible oil crisis and gas prices rising to become unaffordable. Not only that but horrible build quality. So much creaking and cheap plastics all over the cars, and get ready for the worst of daily repairs. Those cars were junk and not meant to last.

[@theblindredneck747]

To those that think the 6.2 diesel are junk, I have one with 310685 miles on it, it’s never been opened up and still runs like a top. They were no power monster but damn reliable.

[@bigred4053]

Should consider doing old gasoline engines as well, like the late 90’s 454,460, dodges 488 v10 fords v10 and GM’s 8.1. Would be fun to watch

[@wrotedog]

I second this request, as I've towed that elevation with a 99 k2500 7.4 suburban and a 7000lb travel trailer. It was intense., but the burb was smooth.

[@thomasharris6683]

I have a 1991 F-250 with the 460 and am close to that area might give the Ike gauntlet a try.

[@jasonlovell3934]

I towed a trailer with two old Jeeps in mountains with a 454. It wasn’t bad going up hills but needed more brakes going down.

[@danielmwattsjr3671]

And 390

[@Supercharged111]

I know a guy with a 97 Chevy dually with a 454 that would survive the climb. With a Whipple. 😎

[@damienrubio9585]

They actually did have a Super Duty prior to 1999. The F Super Duty is a beast. Y'all should get your hands on one

[@scottyellis3442]

TFL is the best car/truck review channel by far on KZbin. Now that that's out of the way I'm really glade to see this particular test, I had this exact truck & did pull with it but it's flat ground where I live, so I was glad to see it really work.

[@bigj200016]

I’d love to see you guys do one with a 6.0 PS as I have one of those that I use to tow my 8000lb camper. Haven’t gone to CO yet, but did go to western SD a couple weeks ago.

[@espi3324]

If the brakes don't hold you can always hold those hats out the window to help slow ya down. Love the content guys.

[@jasonbrushett2005]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@reidkays9109]

I feel like this truck performed amazing . In the late 90’s I feel like no one expected a heavy duty to tow heavy and go that fast up a mountain in high elevation. Feel like the average driver would of been completely happy towing that load and only going 45 mph.

[@7.3powerstroke6]

in the 90s people were raving how powerful these trucks were like we do about the 6.7 today in modern times.

[@SillyPuddy2012]

With a load like that, you really should be doing only 45. People these days are just stupid doing 70 mph with a 26 foot boat behind them.

[@BenGooding-fp6oi]

​@@SillyPuddy2012Thanks for letting everyone know that you're a scared hack driver.

[@SillyPuddy2012]

@@BenGooding-fp6oi no, those people are foolish hack drivers in pickup trucks, likely yourself included. I’m a professional driver.

[@BenGooding-fp6oi]

@@SillyPuddy2012 I'm a motorcycle racer for 10+ yrs with a few yearly championships.

[@gregc9220]

Second comment.....i see a lot of comments about it broke and they saying "I thought the older trucks was more reliable " people its a 26 year old truck, remember the video of the brand new 2019 ford F250 6.2 gas ike gauntlet when the water pump failed? And after that video i still purchased that truck and love it! The point of the story being more reliable is when people say that is the older trucks from back when are less complex and are easier to fix when they do fail, modern trucks today are way more complicated and are expensive, back then most people can fix them in their driveway, you cannot do that with today's trucks, for example if you get water in the fuel system on a 7.3 powerstroke you just simply drained it out, add fresh fuel and keep going, you get water in the fuel system on a 6.7 it will cost you over 10 grand in repairs.

[@donaldkinder6716]

Id say by looking at this truck it's lucky too have 150k miles

[@DanielJaegerFilms]

Keep an eye on that exhaust smoke, I had a very similar scenario happen with my 7.3 which had oversized aftermarket injectors. It got worse and worse as the trip went on, ended up being a sticking injector which left me stranded 400 miles from home.

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

Older trucks were made for high sulfur diesel. I always dump tons of cetane and lubricity booster in my 2 old powerstrokes. I also add Archoil 9100 to the oil every oil change.

[@cavemanjoe79]

Yep, I put cetane boost and a few ounces of injector cleaner before topping off the fuel tank in my 2000 7.3.

[@theglitch99]

Does this apply to an 04 dodge w/5.9 Cummins? I just picked one up.

[@DanielJaegerFilms]

@@theglitch99 I’d say it applies with any diesel engine. When you see white/grey smoke at idle after a hard run, something’s not quite right.

[@Hmanbravo]

@@theglitch99 those common rail injectors are expensive to almost 3k it cost me to replace all 6

[@DIYMechanic1]

Great content, guys. Have a '97 F350 CCLB myself and have towed our 7000 pound camper from MI to FL and back to OH. I'd trust my old OBS to go anywhere! Thanks for making the videos.

[@nydieselinfl]

I have a 2000 Ford Excursion Limited with a 7.3 and 4 wheel drive, but I’m having transmission work done to it currently. I’ve always loved the 7.3 diesels.

[@Chanikenskywalkr]

@@nydieselinfl that’s a goldmine of a vehicle man I hope you still have it and are enjoying it!

[@Mopar21277]

Hard to believe how far trucks have come in 25 years! Used to think my Uncle's '99 Ram 3500 24V was a beast.

[@Berto-1117]

That truck could make the same or more power as modern diesels

[@Rider-nb5ts]

Yes!!! Can’t wait to see the 5.9 Cummins test! 1998 has both 12/24v engines and manual transmission options

[@bradh7472]

We have one at work 97 2wd 350 crew long bed 7.3 with 800k +. We dont use it anymore but it runs great still. Really amazing and nothing ever has been over hauled on the engine.

[@danstennis1817]

A truck that age will need repairs from time to time no matter what you do. That's what makes them a great hobby!

[@theglitch99]

Agreed

[@BlargeAdam]

Exactly and can't forget if they have high mileage somewhere around 240 to 400k miles is when parts start to wear out and they become endless money pits especially there trans automatic nor manual they go out at 100k to 200k miles and need to be replaced or rebuilt so there not worth all this money that people are asking for

[@livewithnick]

well as somebody that works a 2020 6.7 they need repairs more often than id like lol

[@SillyPuddy2012]

When an old truck begins to fail, you rebuild it. When a newer truck begins to fail, you throw it away.

[@BrandonLeech]

Any piece of equipment that gets worked hard will be an endless money pit if you expect it to keep working hard. Nature of the beast. They all need fixed eventually unless it just gets driven to church on Sunday.

[@adrianmagnus3355]

Hey Andre, just wanted to say that I started watching not long before you joined and you've been what's kept me. Your spirit is just infectious

[@rts3613]

I would love to see a 5.9 12v.

[@nbk9nbk1]

They already know it is 100 reliable, the reason they don't need ro test 😮

[@michaelbwbrenner]

How much power does a 12v make 160hp/ 450 lbs?

[@rts3613]

@@michaelbwbrenner There are lot of variations VE or P pump, auto or manual, intercooled, marine, industrial....

[@MarkM-xd2zo]

I drove my 98 Chevy K1500 with 256K miles up this same pass a few weeks ago. I was pleasantly surprised at how well it performed for an old truck with the 5.7 liter pulling a 5K pound travel trailer. About the pass's midpoint, it dropped to 45mph and maintained it the rest of the way up. I agree that this is one TOUGH pass for any truck, yet it's fun to see the old ones still have what it takes. :) Thanks for the fun video. :)

[@chrisposey6450]

You running the 4L60E or manual?

[@MarkM-xd2zo]

4L60E all original now at 260K

[@gregc9220]

This was such a fun video to watch! I smiled the entire time, Mr Truck and Andrea looked like they really had good time making this video, when Mr Truck said breathe in...breathe out when Andrea was worried about the exhaust temps was hilarious lol! And for the smoke at the end completely normal after a hard pull, the clutch slay cylinder is a easy fix, looking at how dirty the fluid is it was most likely on its way out, overall it was a great result for a 26 year old truck, now let's see a 5.9 12 valve Cummins from the same era do the ike! Again great job guys and keep up the good work!

[@MrTruckTV]

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[@ralfhiller9043]

For sure a 12v Cummins, a 6.5TD GM, but please all with manual transmission. This is how towing was back in the day! Super interesting! Love the old Diesel trucks with manuals!

[@pinolyzerproductionsinc.1062]

All full size truck should still have manuals

[@Captain-Awesome]

You guys are hilarious. The effort and the positive attitude and the editing is awesome!! Thank you guys for the videos!

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@cheyennedogsoldiers]

Great video; I do enjoy seeing these old trucks doing what they were built to do. One thought though on the clutch fluid. It looks like it may have been boiled., this could be the results of the bigger turbo, way more under hood heat. A buddy had a similar problem with a GMC CCKW with a Cummins 4BT swap after a larger turbo was dropped in. But we added a turbo blanket and it really did make a huge difference. to the under-hood temps. No more boiling brake fluid.

[@MrTruckTV]

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[@ppeters480]

More older trucks sounds like a great idea for future videos. Great performance on the OBS, loved the tribute to Greta as well 🙂

[@jdub099]

Mr. Truck is full of so much knowledge! Love him and Andre!

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@JustinKingOffroad]

1100-1200 on those OBS is pretty normal especially on long hard pulls like that. perfectly safe! just don't run it above 1200 for a long period of time.

[@garysarratt1]

The mods in this one may have hoodooed it.

[@GLC-1979]

@@garysarratt1 Not even close man....this is one of the tamest set ups you can do on the early PSD trucks.

[@JimmyCasket02]

@@garysarratt1it’s got an inter cooler and is in stock tune it shouldn’t kill itself

[@Tallnerdyguy]

​@@garysarratt1no egr or def system

[@TheAirSofterblaster200]

That’s one of the things about having a gauges. Without the gauge, they could have been pulling at 1200* and been none the wiser.

[@danatkinson6698]

The front tank should be an 18gal tank, and rear bumpers were available from the factory. The truck has had it replaced at some point with an aftermarket unit.

[@andrewt9204]

Curious to see how capable the 300 I-6 is on this test.

[@ericanderson4441]

It would set a new record for the slowest Ike gauntlet.

[@ziggy6645]

But I guarantee you’ll get there!!!

[@aaronatwood9298]

It may not win the race stock, but it will get there. They are actually really easy to modify and get amazing power.

[@RobertL78]

@@ericanderson4441as a 300 owner, I can confirm this.

[@peeonthe3rdrail414]

@@ericanderson4441 Nah, when they test the GM 6.2 diesel it'll be slower than the 300.

[@PowerHungryPerformance]

Great video! We've got thousands of customers with 7.3s getting work done every day, but this was fun to watch. Don't forget the Navistar-equipped Internationals when you start comparing older diesels. The 466, 530, and 570 engines are classics as well!

[@vibrant93]

Your thoughts on what sticks are in it? Think they are really stock. Hydra chip, KC snail, and the Banks cooler. One has to assume it's also got injectors to support the boost number suggested in the video, right... Pressure fell at the top of the climb because lack of HPOP and fuel pressure?

[@PowerHungryPerformance]

@@vibrant93 I doubt they are stock. They are at a pretty high elevation, so the EGTs are going to be a little higher than normal, but with an intercooler and a KC drop in turbo, the EGTs seemed high for stock injectors running on a stock tune. Same with the boost. Breaking 22 psi on a stock OBS injector would be tough. I'd guess it's got 180/30s in it, but that truly is just a wild guess.

[@vibrant93]

@@PowerHungryPerformance Thanks for your input. I just finished an efuel swap and am on the cusp of ordering injectors and a KC for my OBS. I'm digging deep for all the real world info I can get at this point.

[@PowerHungryPerformance]

@@vibrant93 KC Turbos is a great resource as well!

[@grantdavis5992]

When the clutch goes out you start it in gear and drive without the clutch. I learned that on my 57 Chevy 1/2 ton with a 3 on the tree. Didn't need it on that, but did on my 59 Chevy Viking 60 skoolie when the linkage broke. I taught my son how and one day he called and told me he drove his Prelude home when the hydraulic clutch failed.

[@cwyoming7004]

I love the sound of the 7.3 working! One of the best. Thanks for the great videos. Don't forget to include the non-turbo's from the late 80's early 90's. Focus on fuel economy there though. They may take a week to get to the top of the Ike. Roman is going to have a fleet of diesels!

[@aaronvlahovich7606]

Transmission is fine, its a ZF. Has a built in oil cooler and pump! Power shift it once moving and get the clutch slave replaced. I agree the smoking is normal after hard pull and especially at that elevation. If you wanted a hilarious test I have a 2007 Ford F350 C/C with the 5.4L and ZF 6 speed. I bet it would pull the Ike slower than that old 7.3L with just our 5100 lb camper on it! It's terribly slow. Keep up the good work with maybe less over dramatization! Thanks.

[@Bouzoukiellas]

Those 5.4L were god awful slow even in extended cabs

[@elijahcavin2408]

I used a truck very similar stock truck with tune to tow a 10k 32' fifth wheel across the united states. Went down the coastal hwy in cali across the rockies and through death valley. Had 320k on it. Mine was non intercooled and from what I can see in the video this truck had an intercooler which I think would be aftermarket.

[@bobuncle8704]

Good video, but Andre needs to learn more about EGT’s. Yes, you need to watch them, but the max safe sustained temps for the 7.3 is 1,250°. You seemed pretty stressed out.

[@number40Fan]

These old PS's were known for not running well/smoking when climbing a grade. The computer takes a reading from the MAP/Boost sensor when you first turn on the key and bases all of the fueling on that number. Start the engine at a low altitude and drive higher, you're going to run rich because it was using a calculation for fuel at a lower altitude.

[@jeremybelcher6681]

If you go WOT the ECU uses that MAP reading to change the base barometric pressure.

[@cauywarner7136]

​@@jeremybelcher6681on a gas engine, yes. Diesel will be reading boost pressure on WOT

[@jeremybelcher6681]

@@cauywarner7136 yes, derp

[@JayCrash450]

I have a mild 12 valve in an ‘87 square body crew cab. It gets driven almost everyday and is used to haul and tow all the time. During the summer it’s our tow rig for a 28’ boat, hundreds of miles away and multiple grades during the summer in 115 degree heat. Truck is on 37”s and has an nv4500. I’ve gone completely through it front to back, has to be reliable for the family. Breaking down in the middle of the desert during summer is not an option. These old trucks are awesome. Don’t go this route unless you enjoy the hobby of working on them and getting them to a condition where they are reliable. Once they are there though, it’s very rewarding and super fun to be able to enjoy the drive of rolling an old school rig. Most will not want to do that but for those that are different, few things are as satisfying. People trip when I hit the remote starter to cool the interior before pulling the boat out of the gas station.

[@JayCrash450]

Btw, I’ve run that 12 valve between 1100 and 1200 degrees all day long, literally for 12 hour drives through the Central Valley of California during summer. That Cummins is THE BEST diesel ever built for a truck, that is not hot, they like it!

[@DodgeDurango-de5po]

Awsome video! Looking forward with the followup to get the F-250 fixed. Hoping you do more videos like this. I think a lot of truck guy's & gal's are holding on too there trucks long-term because new trunk prices are so ridiculously higher now.

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@StevenBrooten]

Just have been watching your Videos, Thank you for all of the information! ! have owned 3 OBS's and my present one is a 1996 F250 4X4, 7.3 that I have owned and maintained since new. I will die in it as I am 78 yrs. I have the Ford shop manuals for these. The front fuel tank is 19 Gals. and the rear is 18.2, this is the case in all of the 7.3 4X4 OBS's. The only model that came with the front tank at 22 gals., is the single cab with E4OD and the tank was plastic, as mine has. The rear was steel as most were, although Ford did do some with the rear tank in plastic. I have the original window sticker and Ford always provided a spare unless you deleted it. Also it came with a rear bumper, I agree the the bumper on yours is an aftermarket, as the Ford provided one with the rubber molding on top, which can be ordered on line. As far as the turbo after cooler goes, it it a Banks unit, the best out there in my opinion! Gale Banks out of Los Angles has been making turbos since the 50's. It system is not totally complete as there were primarily designed for the E4OD's and had a transmission electrical devise to adjust the shifting points for the Banks Turbo. I do think that the exhaust system is too large and should use the Banks system, it is a complete system. I have had this system on my present OBS since 1999 and never a problem! In fact is was installed through Ford of Kirkland and came with a Ford warranty.

[@nwallis80]

What I see, based on the large number of them still driving around where I live, is the OBS Powerstroke was the way to go for diesel and the OBS Chevy/GMC was the way to go for gas.

[@mattweeks2272]

I tend to agree with that observation. Tons of obs powerstrokes and obs Chevy gassers still floating around

[@TaigaTurf]

Would love to see a K10 with the 454 Big block on here. The 8.0 magnum was one the smoothest engines i ever ran too

[@markryl-kuchar2373]

Hey Andre be glad most of the brand new turbo diesel trucks don’t have a pyrometer to monitor they run that hot or even hotter to burn out the dpf

[@mercedes-amgforlife3237]

Don't fret about the EGT's unless you're in the danger zone. I had my 2003 Ram Cummins in the 1500°-1600°f range for 20 minutes. Had the engine in red line, ECT was 240°, and over speed and over boost on the turbo too. That was nearly 5 years ago, and the truck still runs great.

[@chriswenzel1970]

I agree with Mr. Truck, I love this body style and engine! I was looking for this type of truck for awhile because of it’s reputation. I opted to go with a newer Super Duty diesel with the 6.7 simply because of more modern conveniences, horsepower, and towing capability. I scored a 2017 Black Ops Edition F250 last year with only 54,000 miles on it. I still would like to have a mid-90’s Powerstroke just because the OBS and 7.3L is such an iconic style and sound. Hopefully the shifting problem and dirty fluid is a simple fix. But, with any older vehicle, there’s bound to be problems.

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@andyharman3022]

As far as what other old truck to test: keep with the same vintage, but seek out a GM 6.5 turbo and 12-valve Cummins of '96-'97 vintage. 190 & 215 hp. Should be interesting.

[@hitempguy]

Wouldn't bother with the 6.5td Not saying they are bad, but a clean TD is going to cost as much as an 01-03 duramax, with way less capacity They also are prone to overheating, and none of the older trucks were built to the sae tow standard. It's just asking for trouble

[@seabrookmx]

​@@hitempguyas an owner of one, I agree. We don't tow with it for a reason.. 2000lbs of sleds and gear in the bed is enough to make it slow on the hills.

[@joshc5512]

Go with a '96-'98 GM gas 454/7.4L. Those were GM's tow engines for that era.

[@grumpyengg5978]

I too agree with the above sentiment on the 6.5 Turbo. I had one growing up…1995 variant with 185 HP and 360 lb-ft. Learned to wrench on it, was the family rig used to tow up to 6000 lb…about all that old girl could handle. Main 3 things that would have improved that truck immensely for hill pulling power…1) intercooler, 2) larger and less restrictive exhaust and 3) larger water pump and radiator. I guess #4 would be the right tune to take advantage of 1-3. Bombing around town and highway empty it was okay excellent. 20 MPG wasn’t bad back then.

[@cliffh8486]

Makes me love my ecoboost even more. This was the engine I compared it to when shopping. Truly amazing what we are doing now.

[@TheDoubla44]

Yeah this truck would have been WAY better than your eco boost man

[@darmanskirata1792]

​@TheDoubla44 I've had both I love my current 7.3 but my old 2017 150 with that 3.5 was no slouch and would pull alot more than you think it would.

[@stans9487]

Just found channel today. KZbin played next video randomly. Cool vid,boss. Im am currently rebuilding my 96 f450 psd. Its 90% stripped down. My "princess" is getting everything replaced and upgraded. 9yrs ago I restored the frame and suspension w/4" Skyjacker kit. I actually bought an action camera to record it. If i ever post something, it'll start after I pulled most of it apart, but whatever. I have pics of everything. Nobody's want to watch someone use a wrench.

[@andyharman3022]

Maybe the long pull at high EGT boiled the fluid in the slave cylinder. Searching for the simple problem first is best. Try bleeding the clutch hydraulic system. More seriously, it could be the pressure plate springs have broken. Andrei had good mechanical sympathy by watching the pyrometer throughout the climb. But he didn't need to be so worried at 1100F EGT. That's just a good workout. Up to 1250F is OK, especially with that much boost on stock tune.

[@7.3sareslow34]

that's right, aluminum doesn't start melting until 1220 degrees Fahrenheit, plus the exhaust gas temps are combined measurement of all cylinders, meaning some of the pistons might have lower temps. Not saying you should EVER push your truck to 1250 egt's but i think you could get i away it for VERY SHORT bursts when towing.

[@decoteau89]

1250 for short bursts, it's like waving your hand through fire vs holding it there.

[@uniglez5264]

Don’t worry Andrey, 26 year old truck break just by sitting on the driveway, it’s probably a leaking seal. Great video guys Andrey and Mr. Truck great combo.

[@peterljubicich9451]

I’d be interested to see a 12 valve Cummins Ram with the 5 speed on this test. I’ve had my ‘98 since brand new and still love it.

[@J.Young808]

That is one of the vehicles that I wish I had bought when I worked on a Dodge dealership in 1998/99. I would have loved the 5.9 H.O. and manual, 4x4 and couldn’t decide on standard cab or short bed Xcab.

[@adolfoabhurtadoc6106]

Minute 19:20 - 19:30, you can see the bed twisting in different way than the cab. There is a good reason why old trucks tows way less than new ones. At least in frames and chasis stifness, the improvement is significant. Any way, the time test is extremly prooven in this old OBS! Gorgeus truck!

[@NWI_Steel]

Open C channel frame. They flex a lot

[@kirkpalmer1709]

The C-channel frames are desiged to flex, it doesn't mean they are weak at all. Have you ever seen a semi truck frame flex under heavy load...they are C channel frames. The bay bridge is a perfect example. During the 1989 earthquake the rigid frame section of the bridge failed while the suspension section which is designed to flex under heavy load did not fail. That's why the rigid section of the bridge was replaced with a suspension design. Ford joined the boxed frame bandwagon, in 2017 I believe, because the other manufacturers made commercials showing that the ford tailgate couldn't be opened when the frame was flexed beyond a certain point. I'm sure ford knows that most people don't use their pickup trucks to haul anything anyway so why not. The heavier duty F-450 and up trucks still use a C-channel frame as far as I know.

[@001blackmax]

Okay let me just say, you are not going to hurt the first gen 7.3L T444E, the only thing you are going to hurt is the zf5 if it’s unhealthy. That’s an 800-1mil mile engine. The 7.3 only needs good oil and coolant, they do not care

[@kalebaldwin5398]

I’d like to see some gassers. OBS Chevy with a 454, NBS Chevy with the 8.1, OBS Ford with the 460, and/or a V10 Ram.

[@andyharman3022]

"Roman, are you a religious man?" - Classic Mr. Truck.

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@jericho86]

I had a 97 F350 crew cab auto duality with… a 351w. It was rated from ford to tow something like 7k lbs. The hardest load I ever put behind it was a 6k machine on a 3.5k trailer over sams gap on I26. It might have maintained 35 mph if I wasn’t driving it by the temperature gauge.

[@thinde88]

People don’t give modern day trucks enough credit. A 3.5 ecoboost wouldn’t have struggled the slightest doing this. And these used truck prices are just as insane as new.

[@willbenner3]

As long as the ambient temperature is below 60 or 70, maybe. The ecoboost cooling system is not ideal for pulling campers in the 8k range over mountains in the summer. The most unrealistic thing about the IKE is that they frequently test trucks in the winter which gives a huge advantage in terms of engine cooling. For example, tfl’s video on the first gen ecoboost f150.

[@russianrick8403]

@@willbenner3 I agree that the little ecoboosts don't have the cooling capacity of the heavy duty trucks. Those little 3.5's make a lot of power, but they still have small radiators and need time to cool down. My neighbor bought a duramax after he overheated his half ton pulling a trailer up a local mountain canyon.

[@perryjudson9141]

A 2001 3.0 ford ranger could pull that trailer like it was nothing

[@Jimmy-dp7fd]

@@perryjudson9141 hahaahahahaha

[@superstar64]

​@@perryjudson9141 I mean I've seen Rangers do insane things, but I also don't really want to blow mine up.

[@marvnation924]

I love the sound of that powerstroke humming along as it pulls up the mountain.

[@traviegas88]

Would love to see the old 8.1 vs the ford v10 vs the dodge v10. And see how they compare to the early diesels

[@MountainAdventures1]

The clutch hose was routed too close to a hot exhaust part or engine part, and it cooked the fluid while the engine was pulling hard. Check your hose routing, flush some new fluid through there, and you'll be fine. As far as old trucks crossing the divide, I actually live in the mountains near there. I pull those grades with heavy loads (usually logs) over and over again, with my 98.5 Dodge Cummins. It's a 5--speed manual and pulls the grades in 4th at the speed limit (or above if I wanted) without a single problem. Has been doing it for 17 years and 150,000 miles. I do have a Banks exhaust brake, it's a necessity on mountain roads. And no modern pickup can touch the fuel mileage I get.

[@austinhuff283]

I love those old 7.3’s. My brother has a 2001 7.3. I have a 2006 6.0 that I’d like to see run the Ike Gauntlet even though people are going to say it’ll break down before it reaches the top. I like that you’re mixing some old trucks into the videos. I like the new trucks, but there’s something special about the older ones and they are more affordable for regular people.

[@roundsm18]

I want to see the GM 6.5 diesel and an old 6.2 - that may be the slowest run of all time. It would be cool to see an old 2 stroke as well but youd have to get your hands on someone’s Detroit conversion. They did the job but generally converted fuel into noise with greater efficiency.

[@furgerson996]

Yes please more old trucks! There is tons of old pickups out where I live because new ones are so expensive and it would be awesome to see the performance and limits of these old legends. I have a 2000 F250 Powerstoke 6 Speed manual and it would be cool to see something like that in comparison to the OBS. Newer body style vs. OBS!

[@andrewbrewer9353]

Dont worry about it, those cluch systems typically use dot 3 brake fluid which is hydroscopic (absorbs water out of the air) so dont replace the fluid in the system few years (no one does) you get rust in the cylinders that take out the seals

[@exordis]

I'd like to see a 5.9 24v 48RE vs the 5.9 24v with the manual. Or maybe even the 5spd vs the 6spd manual.

[@madweazl]

Weren't the manuals gimped out of the box? Or did that come after the 24v?

[@jakobdaoust4731]

24v 6 speed would do good

[@weegeemike]

I want to see a GMT400 OBS Chevy with the big block 454 (preferably the 96+ Vortec port injected engine). My dad had a 96 K2500 454 and it beat my cousins 7.3 Powerstroke pulling a 6k lb trailer up a 10 mile 6% grade. Everybody worships these 7.3 powerstrokes but that injected 454 made it look like a horse-drawn carriage...had way more torque and power, all 3 of us were super surprised. Back in the 80s and 90s, Big Block gas was truly a step ahead of the diesels during that time (except for maybe the 5.9 Cummins).

[@kenwittman5178]

I've got both. A 97 7.3 and a 1999 454 vortec truck. The 454 will whoop on the 7.3 empty or with a load. Granted I've got a bit of work done too the 454. Love both trucks though.

[@brad3139]

I'd love to see a V10 take on the Ike Gauntlet!

[@SarraPiyopiyo]

My Dad has a 1995 T100. It's never had a hitch, never towed anything behind it. It has had the bed full, many times, but never towed anything. 5Speed V6, RWD only. I think it had headgaskets, but that's it for work. It's also super low miles... Hoping I inherit it, I want to drop a 6MT in it from my Tacoma, convert it to 4X4, and maybe add ABS. It's still an awesome driving truck, it just hardly gets driven anymore.

[@taylorcappel5035]

Hey you guys should pull Andreas old lb7 duramax up the Ike gauntlet

[@Hobbywelder617]

Good part about the diesel and 460 mated ZF’s is external hydraulics. Personally, having been there done that, get a pre-bled setup and completely R&R it. Also, you can get clutch brake assemblies new from ford for 92-97, they wear out and start flexing which causes it to not actuate the hydraulics all the way. Do that and it’ll feel way better too

[@dragster9886]

I've got a 95 suburban with the 6.5 turbo diesel you should try on the Ike gauntlet

[@seanmartin2382]

Nice video..used my 07 H2 to drive from Houston to Ok to pick up my new CJ on a lowboy, lost .3 mpg loaded orw home...no issues on the trip

[@Rubiflake]

Always a good time when Andre and Kent get to do some big rig gear jammin'.😎

[@TFLtruck]

Thank you for watching !

[@ZachHunts]

Andre freaking out about temps and Mr. Truck is just sitting there like "I remember hauling an old 4430 over this back in '98."

[@Hiluxtaco]

While Roman was about to sh*t himself. Mr. Truck remained cool, calm, and collected..

[@WorkingViews]

The 460s whip when you get em moving, the E4od is a different story. About to hit 200k in my 91 f250, always something to fix but if you want a smoother ride, take a look at the body mounts and bed bolts.

[@poweredbyfaith]

The 7.3 can be built to tow well. My 99 4x4 with GT 38 turbo, hybrid, 238 injectors and BTS trans tows great. I have made several trips to Happy Jack AZ pulling a 28 ft triple axle toy hauler weighing around 16k loaded. 18 miles 7% grade 105 plus degrees.

[@A8vscRrabbit]

That's sounds like quite the rig. All the big names in 7.3 performance. I have similar mods. It all started 15yrs with a tuner, exhaust and a t500hpop🤛🏽

[@briankelley616]

Anything pre DEF would be great to watch. 😁

[@mouaxiong8618]

I want to buy a truck that requires 0 mods and just do regular maintenance that can tow. Upgraded electronics and injectors is sort of a must and that's understandable.

[@flattiresmisfires]

Yeah but my 08 f450 king ranch all stock pulls my 18k trailer with ease up and down the hill.

[@flattiresmisfires]

Oh yeah on the same happy jack run you do

[@cnf6045]

I have a good friend who has a 2nd gen dodge with a 24v in it. Believe he said the most he’s ever pulled with it was around 40,000 truck and trailer. He’s got bags on it, and he had the bags aired alllll the way up to level the trailer. He pretty regularly runs up and down the east coast with a 15,000 pound trailer.

[@ckbhack]

Its just the hydraulic clutch which of all things to go should be cheap. Quit playing up the drama and fix it in your driveway.

[@technom3598]

Relax Susan

[@johnandrews6872]

Lots of guys still the old 7.3, international untouched by ford still in use today great motor.

[@madogllewellyn]

Okay next two trucks should be the 7.3L IDI and the 5.9L 12valve.... Absolutely wonderful to see the old trucks make the run!

[@seabrookmx]

The IDI will have a hard time pulling the Ike empty.. they're gutless! 😅

[@madogllewellyn]

@@seabrookmx Yeah but not as gutless as the 6.5L Detroit that's the most gutless....

[@brettk461]

8.1L would be great to see. Best versions were 2006 & early 2007 classics. They had 6 Speed allison with 4:10 gears. 01-05 had 5 speeds with 3.73 and a little less power too. The worst 8.1L set-ups were the Sub's & Yuk's - They were really de-tuned and had the GM 4 speed behind them.... FYI - I have a Bone Stock 2006 8.1L Ext Cab, Long Box 4x4 with 91,000 original miles I pull my 5th wheel camper with..... let me know if you want me to come to Colorado with it... :)

[@MDillonEV]

Mr. Truck and Andre are the best combo! I love watching those guys together.

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@rogersavoie4570]

Another great video! I owned one of them with the five shifts. Probably just the clutch slave cylinder, no biggie.

[@duramaxadventures5832]

We should meet up and test my stock 2006 2500HD Duramax on the Ike! Many people insist its as good as the 2016 trucks were, id love to find out!

[@santiago101100]

Please meet up with this guy’s lbz and test it! That would make a great video.

[@patrickirish8110]

Great idea! Seeing older trucks, that viewers own, tested to the full Ike experience would enjoyable to watch. Tumbleweed Ranch tests off-road chops, and the Ike tests trucks' mettle.

[@HK-Guy]

Not sure about high geared manuals. My 1996 F250 came equipped 7.3/ZF5/4:10 gears. Could have been ordered that way. Was purchased in Bountiful, Ut. In late ‘96

[@johnhart5102]

It breaking was nothing against the Ford at all. It's an old truck that's been modified. GET IT FIXED PLEASE and take us along.

[@nathanmcdonald610]

Yeah, all these GM and Dodge guys talking shit in the comments like it only had issues because it's a Ford...No it had issues because it's nearly 30 years old...That's just a fact of older vehicles. Take any mid/late 1990's Chevy or Dodge and they will very likely have their own set of problems simply due to their age.

[@wesshepard]

I’m glad to see you and Mr. truck back at it I thought you guys had run out of ideas

[@MrTruckTV]

Never, always something new to review

[@cwikk660]

I would love to see a 12 valve Cummins. Or a 2018 ram with the manual trans.

[@wellthatdidntwork]

If its just a clutch issue and a possible leak after that obs just pulled the ike with 8k lbs then thats a blessing. Especially when you guys just got it and arent familiar with it yet. We have gotten so used to trucks that have all these diagnostic capabilities that when your really working one and you dont have the ability to see everything thats going on its very concerning, even nerve racking! Hope its just a minor issue guys

[@Buain-75]

Would love to see a comparision from yall with a 7.3 IDI factory turbo. Would be interesting.

[@jeffhutchins7048]

'93-'94 IDI Turbo would KICK IT'S @$$! In STOCK tune FOR SURE! Owned a bunch of BOTH. OBS P.S. STOCK were kinda underwhelming. Exhaust and tuner helps A TON! Turbo upgrade helps, along with an intercooler. THIS truck TFL has would do pretty good with the tuner set higher but WATCH EGTs, Super Duty 7.3L with exhaust, gauges and tuner would blow them away BUT EGTs are high, GOTTA WATCH "EM.

[@jschwenz8153]

Towing 8.5-9k up 7% grades in a 94 F350 IDI turbo is not fun. Stuck in second gear and floored doing 35 mph with windows down and heater on hoping you don't over heat half way up the mountain 😢.

[@jeffhutchins7048]

@jschwenz8153 not my experience, never had overheating problems at all. Towed as good as any stock truck I've ever had (2003 the newest) except for the 6 speed manual Duramax I had. AND I'M A DODGE/CUMMINS GUY. I'd still take a Cummins in MODIFIED trim or in a newer truck since DEF fluid.

[@d-lion-0859]

PLEASE DO A 08 4.6 2V V8 F-150!!!!!! Its supposed to be one of the most reliable engines ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Austinandjules]

The slave cylinder probably failed. It takes 5 minutes to bleed. Most new venture trans take a 5mm Allen on the slave or a 10mm wrench for the bleeder.

[@upscaleshack]

It's a ZF, not an NVG.

[@Austinandjules]

@@upscaleshack you have obviously never worked on a truck in your life because if you did, you would know that ZF and new venture use the same kind of slave cylinder’s, and they use the same kind of hydraulic throwout bearing’s. So thanks for your unneeded info.

[@garysarratt1]

@@Austinandjules If you were face to face, you would have simply informed him of his error and not been so condescending. A kinder reply would make him smarter and appreciative, instead of embarrassed and angry at you.

[@Austinandjules]

@@garysarratt1 If you say bull crap like that guy and act like a know it all after I was giving valuable info I’ll make you feel like crap. I’m the guy you see in autozone screaming at the numb skulls behind the counter cause they don’t what they’re doing. 😂😂😂 so yea I would say it in person.

[@watchingvideos4309]

I gotta a 7 speed manual Cummins 6 valve 7.3 9’ bed 3 door with 8 in a row ready to tow, she can tow my 4 horses and two weeks of food and water up the Ike I-70 at 80mph with room left to pass. Coming down I drop her down a few gears and don’t touch the brakes once. Honestly I came here looking for this guy, I was disappointed to not see it.

[@huntere185]

I love the 7.3PS, such a great engine. Only problem is you have to start yelling to your passenger when towing up a grade like how y'all were!

[@TaigaTurf]

Mine sounded like a tank.. needed ear protection

[@DangerRanger89]

1250 is fine with an inter cooler, mine ran 1350 all day. It has oil jets on the pistons and cool fuel coming in every rev. It’s fine. Mine is the same exact truck, no intercooler or tuner

[@KyleJewell]

I'd say that old truck faired pretty well considering. Rebuild/slightly upgrade the trans, upgrade the clutch, put some better coolers on and it'll go for a long time more.

[@brahmstein]

You can replace a clutch slave and master cylinder on an OBS or Super Duty in 1/2 hour with hand tools. They sell them as a built set and you just have to install it. Very simple.

[@Hiluxtaco]

Don't worry about it, Andre. You were bound to break a truck going up/down that hill eventually. It was only a matter of time..

[@jarrodmorrow2781]

F350 with the 460 and the first gen GM 2500HD with the 6.0 and 8.1 would be cool. Ram with the V10

[@kylebutler7142]

Has the old girl been serviced ? That K&N air filter should be red in colour...

[@C10sRule]

I know…. They buy them and generally maintain them, but missed how truly dirty that filter was/is(?). It’s a slight Frankentruck but I still like this one!! I would have bought it as well, if I was in the market like they were though.

[@gregy3660]

I had a 1997 Ford f250 xlt with a 460 in it. Loved the truck was an automatic. I never had any issues with it.

[@markcole6475]

Be interesting to see an obs ford with a 460 …..one that’s mildly built!

[@flight2k5]

It would be slow as hell

[@donaldkinder6716]

Probably blow it up

[@enqualizer3210]

​@@flight2k5like the 7.3 is faster 💀

[@nathanmcdonald610]

@@enqualizer3210 The 7.3L probably is faster in this particular comparison due to the elevation and forced induction vs the 460's naturally aspirated architecture. An unloaded stock for stock drag race at mid/low elevation I'd give to the 460 any day of the week, but in this particular test the 460 has to much working against it.

[@landonleffler2106]

I noticed you said keep the RPM up, In my experience (95 Fummins 12V & 6.7 Cummins) over 2k rpm keeps EGT down but coolant gets hot. (240+). Also, 1150 is not too bad for me on egt, 1300 I start backing off.