2023 Honda Hornet 750, better than the Suzuki GSX8S?

[@farmoboy83]

tested first the 8s and 2 weeks later the hornet. Its impossible to choose wrong between this two. 8s definetly more grunt down low and more mature and planted. Hornet fits my 173cm body perfectly, feels lighter in every way and its 1000eur cheaper (don't actually need quickshifter). If one day i trade my 2004 sv650 it will be one of this two or the z900. Amazing bikes and brakes light years better than similar bikes from 10 years ago.

[@andrewaldridge3801]

£6999+£289+£550+£900 is £8738. However minus exhaust, therefore same spec and warranty as the Suzuki it would be a little less than the Suzuki. I've ridden both and personally would still go for the Suzuki - it just suits my riding style better.

[@stefanhansen5882]

Awesome review! Thanks! I'll be coming to your channel more often!

[@davidlynas7768]

Got mine a few weeks ago. Brilliant.

[@richardwarsinske7064]

Just an observation but I have to wonder how much stock gearing is affecting peoples perception of engine performance. While Honda chose to give us a fantastic but uncharacteristic spicy motor they also chose an over-geared final drive ratio that hinders performance to a certain extent. Shorter gearing similar to the Suzuki would increase acceleration but also give the Hornet a stronger more punchy feeling low and mid range. Affordable upgrade considering the Hornets lower price and definitely a worthy consideration when it comes time to replace your chain and sprockets if you don't want to spend the extra money initially.

[@dmertl75]

I’ve test ridden that same bike at CJ Ball, done my DAS with them recently to get my full license, great people. I also test rode the Z650RS at Seastars Kawawaki 😊 lovely looking bike but to much buzz in the seat and pegs for me. Anyway the Hornet put such a big smile on my face I ordered one. My first big bike. You never forget your first 😆 Just to note the sport pack is £555 now and the skid pads are £183, SC Project £900 all plus fitting. Get a Fuel end Can for half the money but the standard is pretty good as well.

[@clusterm2]

Let my mate ride my cb750 Hornet, he immediately said he wanted one but had a test ride booked on the 8s. I went with him and we did a few roll ons, sure enough the 8s would pull maybe 3 bike lengths on the Hornet to start with ( 4th gear @ 50mph, 3, 2, 1, go) but as the revs went up the Hornet was leaving the 8s behind. He's a fairly small guy maybe 5' 7", 65kg, but very experienced, 65 Yr had loads of big bikes, last one Aprilia 1000....he bought the Honda, didn't like the 8s handling said it felt like a big bike and although the engine is fantastic for its capacity, it doesnt have big bike power. The Honda had more intuitive handling, quick steering, and yet very stable. The 8s probably suits the taller, heavier, and dare, I say, more sensible rider? 😉

[@henrysmith5604]

You can turn the self cancelling indicators off

[@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff]

Both pistons must be stationary at TDC & BDC, just not at the same time😃 .

[@Marcel-us5tw]

The suzuki is better, i have the hornet 750 and the 800 vstrom. The 8s engine is until 8000 stronger as the hornet engine, but the hornet engine goes between 8000 and 10000 as a "rocket" with great engine Sound !!!! The Transmission is smoother in the gsx 8s engine (in the v strom 800)...the hornet Transmission feels like a bone😅 The 8s enginefeels stronger/better...the Sound nice, but the Sound of the hornet better. The 8s looks better The gear of the hornet a bit to smooth, it feels a bit retless by the fullpower acceleration... The processing of the gsx 8s and the v strom better!!!! Suzuki great work, the hornet 750 also a great bike with great power between 8000 and 10000 with great Sound,so i love both bikes!!!! Greetings from germany, thanks for this Video!!! My English is bad 😂

[@Steve-motorcycles]

Your English may be bad as is your comparison and summary.

[@ridehead8771]

Theyre all great bikes, there's no better! It all depends on your preference.

[@VFR-Owl]

Do you think the agility of the Hornet comes from the 160 rear tyre compared with the 180 on the Suzuki ?. I prefer the Hornet looks overall especially the front end compared to the Suzuki. All these parallel twins sound a bit drone like but either bike would be a good choice, but I'm not ready to swap my '01VFR yet.

[@sybarlas]

I thought the self cancelling indicators are based on a time duration rather than gyros - I could be wrong. I think you can turn that feature off in the bike

[@asanrushid4981]

Low-end and mid-range torque is important for the real life. Both are great bikes but for me: Suzuki GSX-8S

[@anxiousappliance]

Honda has both and seems real. But when your life ends and another begins - top end is a sweet thing to have.

[@brianm1491]

Hi, witch do you think had the smoothest quick shifter 8S or hornet ?

[@motorsforthemasses]

I feel the 8s just pips it on smoothness. Not a massive difference between the 2. Hornet is perhaps a bit more snatch in sport mode. Overall 8s is a nicer feel.

[@michaelwatts224]

... and it's a Honda (reliability!). A great vid Mark.

[@G3A3]

i think i would choose the 8S if i was in the market. couldn't go wrong either way i reckon. 😀

[@oldfartona1253]

looks like a cb500f on steriods

[@Steve-motorcycles]

In my opinion, it’s much better than the Suzuki. If bikes are meant to be fun, than the Hornet win’s hands down. However, the Suzuki isn’t a bad bike as it does feel more grown up.

[@chrispekel5709]

Evberything is so good these days, it's like one bike is an 8.5 out of 10 and the other is a 9. I don't think it's 'much better', more like every so slightly better

[@Steve-motorcycles]

@@chrispekel5709 Agreed, there’s very little to choose between them. It like choosing between different flavours, there isn’t a wrong choice.

[@mt1885]

This Hornet is AWESOME - big question will they bring this to the USA ???

[@davidtait7407]

I’ve ridden both as well, the Suzuki has all the torque in the right place looks and feels so much better me. But we are all different of course

[@Steve-motorcycles]

The Suzuki is a bigger bike, is more stable and obviously heavier. I personally like both bikes. However, the Honda is lighter quicker and more fun to ride.

[@johnflavin1602]

I think you can turn the self-cancelling indicators off.

[@dev8546]

Riding comfort for long rides(4 hrs) which one please? Thanks : )

[@markfranks1329]

Great review. This and the new Suzuki '8S certainly appear to have been well received. With each having their particular strengths and weaknesses, I really think it's a fine line between them and ultimately, choice will be down to subjective issues such as looks and colour, and of course, pricing v options. Decisions, decisions. Agree about the self cancelling indicators. I had them on a 2019 VFR800 and they never fully functioned as they should have. This is funny, as back in the early 80s I had them on a Yamaha XJ650 and they worked perfectly. Similarly, a friend had them on his 1978 RD250E and they too worked as designed, so I don't know what's going on today. Items like this are not essential and like gear indicators, if you don't know what gear you're in and can't manually deactivate your indicators, you shouldn't be on a bike.

[@paulfowler7618]

I have one of these in the same colours and have done over 1000 miles now. All with a big smile on my face. The standard can sounds much the same as the sc project one. I think like you the looks could be better but its OK. Otherwise brilliant bike at only £6999 on the road a complete bargain.

[@johnflavin1602]

Yep, just got one and love the sound of the standard exhaust. It makes heads turn when you start it up.

[@Nickbaldeagle02]

Rain mode really is for when it's raining. Or just generally wet.

[@chrisvassos9929]

smaller rear wheel is supposedly to assist with the nimble handling

[@garysmith70]

I went to look at Suzuki 8s i thought it looked cheap.Surely the KTM 790 gets a look in between the two?.

[@clusterm2]

The indicators self cancelled around the right time on those big roundabouts, i.e., just around the time you needed to indicate left. The Suzuki is the 'sensible' option.

[@drawwithdan5821]

I'd agree that the Suzuki looks better. I feel these are growing on me though.

[@VinCent-xy5lg]

Try an XSR700 with Leo Vince dual pipes, that’ll wake you up, and remember “You are the mode”

[@anxiousappliance]

Sure will wake up the neighborhood and they will know you are the ....

[@NoOne-qx4xv]

Very nice. how is the wind on helmet and chest with this little flyscreen?😊

[@motorsforthemasses]

No real issue to be fair

[@NoOne-qx4xv]

@@motorsforthemasses okido thnx a lot.

[@NakulSaxena]

As per your expert opinion, which among CB650R and Hornet 750 would you choose? They are almost similarly priced here in Norway as of now at least.

[@motorsforthemasses]

Hornet, it has more poke and fun factor. Both ride well but the Hornet takes the edge.

[@NakulSaxena]

@@motorsforthemasses Perfect. Thanks for your reply. Then I know my next bike :)

[@adrianp7475]

CB650R THE KING

[@thodoris3790]

man you are doing good reviews,i like you and i sub.the new transalp some time?

[@motorsforthemasses]

Yes

[@barney3417]

Tried the Hornet and 8s back to back last week, didn't like the frame/sub frame on the Hornet, looks cheap and old styling as did the swing arm which could have come from a scooter!! The S8 have a lovely sub frame which can be changed if it gets damaged and the swing arm is a nice alloy design. as to the ride , the S8 was a lot nicer to ride with lots of low and mid range grunt !! so i've taken delivery of a new S8 on Friday !!The biggest surprise to me was the quality of the Suzuki was a lot better than the Honda !!

[@nickclarkuk]

Yes you can see where the extra money goes on the Suzuki . I love the current SV650 design but the swing arm looks anemic🤮 and the CB750 is let down to a lesser extent by the steel box design. The sub frame on the 8s is beautiful and the suspension seems to be sportier. If were about to buy I would go for the 8s despite preferring the rev happy engine of the hornet .

[@barney3417]

Had it 4 months and LOVE IT, I made the mistake of letting my wife have a go, she has a Kawasaki Z 650, shes ordered one!! don't worry its not a girls bike!! shes had GSX r 750,s Hyabusa's Ducati Diavels amongst others. Tail tidy really sets it off, Evotech ones the best!!@devywwolf

[@efthimiosmaroulis983]

Hello from greece! Nice video! I believe the differences of 2 bikes are in details..l want you to inlight me in some point about witch of 2 bikes do you believe( in real conditions) is more fuel efficient?

[@motorsforthemasses]

I would say there is very little to choose between them in terms of fuel efficiency. It always depends on which mode you ride in, how much you twist the throttle. Technically the Hornet is a little more fuel efficient as it is lighter

[@richardwarsinske7064]

@@motorsforthemasses Gearing of these two bikes is also quite different. Shorter geared Suzuki runs more revs at any given speed in every gear which helps offset its lower power output compared to the Honda but also hurts its fuel efficiency.

[@The.JZA.]

I don’t mind the front end and bodywork. It’s fine, nothing special but it’s fine. The thing that really puts me off about the look of that bike is the engine and swingarm. They just look so cheap and bland. Most bikes have a lot more styling built into the engine casing but the CB750’s engine casings are just flat and plain. Look at the CB650R engine casings for example. They look so much more premium and more passion has been put into the design. I think Honda just made the engine casings as cheap as they possibly could. If Honda start selling the full power version of the CB650R in New Zealand then I would buy that instead. I know it’s less torquey and doesn’t have a ride by wire throttle which means no auto-blipping on the quick shifter but the styling and design just have way more passion and make me actually want to look at it. Unfortunately Honda just updated the CB650R and made it look worse and they still haven’t made it ride by wire. It’s quite disappointing.

[@flexywing]

I disagree with your view of self cancelling indicators, this bike is aim at newer riders, and i feel is a great safety feature

[@TreyyDaMenaceFan]

Fairly sure its your typical ‘extra’ exhaust where its basically just stock-volume and sounding

[@hagestad]

Cool color scheme on that white red bike. The red is not the shade i like - oh well. Also that frame is not pretty enough to be exposed like that in my opinion. Looks like you can't detach sub frame as well? Other than that the bike looks like its more than enough for 99% of the riders.

[@MrLexxmorelia]

Excellent review as always buddy, fit and finish on this for me is much nicer than the Suzuki 8, and my money would be on this. But I hate the position of where the indicator switch is, and I couldn’t agree more about those silly self cancelling indicators. Sounds much like my old 696 monster this. And I’d happily own one. Only thing I can say about this the Suzuki and the Kawasaki 650 is it’s a shame they have replaced the in-line four that they are memorable for. Love the frame on this and also the red forks. And most definitely agree on that horrible tail on the Suzuki 😂 good vid and interesting watch 💯👍🏼

[@curlytheunacceptable.4298]

I used to have a Hornet 9, marvellous in it's time, prefer the looks of the new one but if I had kept it I would not PX it for a new one.

[@tactical1224]

Don't discredit the the Hornet 9 (919 in the U.S). It's is a modern day classic...It's a marvelous bike to this day!

[@soulhunter8159]

Great video! I would love if you could a review on a KTM 790 Duke ! Im thinking of buying one

[@juh7111]

KTM has huge quality issues. Japanese unreachable.

[@N269]

It's a CB750 TWIN... not a Hornet.

[@keltecdan]

So many middleweight bikes to choose from these days. Even when I first started riding 4 years ago there wasn’t that many options.

[@markhinde6187]

for a twin the engine is a gem, shame about the rest of the bike, imho. Keep hold of your in line 4's they will soon become very rare and collectable

[@Scrambler695]

The legendary Honda❤‍🔥❤‍🔥‼️‼️🔥🔥

[@RB-gx4qg]

If you are committed to a round about, what difference does it make. Indicate means, shows your intent... Once intent is shown, you don't need them anymore. So why would anyone care if they don't stay on during a round about? I guess you, but I wouldn't be confused in a car if your indicator turned of in the round about😂 Id assume you are going finish what you started

[@robertprosser6856]

Agreed the bike looks fine other than the boring bland generic headlight.

[@marktiller1383]

The side view, the mountain of a hump on the tank ruins the looks of the bike. If I was younger, I think that a black 8S would be my pick. I'm in my mid 60s and a z400 works for my needs.

[@karlfonner7589]

Same here. I’m 63 and love the Kawasaki Z 400. It is light, does the speed limit, and it’s cheap on insurance and gas. What more do you need?

[@philstewart9891]

Hang on...pistons do stop top of the stroke and bottom..if they didn't they will fly off in all directions that is apart from a rotary engine....

[@motorsforthemasses]

I know but the point is a piston is always moving. 360 and 180 stop at the same time whether together or opposite, 270 they don't.

[@torevenheim9607]

I want to like it, but the look of that engine lets it down in a bad way 😢

[@leadsolo2751]

The Hornet's a good beginners' bike while the 8S is a better intermediate bike - Yet I agree the rear 'Sting' shud hv been on the Hornet, not the 8S 😅

[@Adam-mo2qw]

I love this bike.

[@richardcasey7521]

Seems like frame downtubes are a thing of the past.

[@aGentleUser]

LOL i also have the 900 hornet, restoring it slowly and with new modern sport tires it rides great, maybe not that ultraflickable with safety electronics ... but common the look of a SC48 beats this one! Just search on it on my channel ;O) The hornet was, when appeared, a little boring, but somehow there is a harmony which the suzuki doesn't have for me... i do not like the v8s look. The exhaust pipes, the prolong of the tank ... naaaah, even if it would ride much better, i would not enjoy looking at it

[@robertprosser6856]

Much rather have the GSX8S.

[@moto-hornet-750]

I test road that baby loved it

[@Steve-motorcycles]

Maybe if you don’t know how to turn the automatic indicators off, you should stick with an older generation Hornet. 😂

[@PeterOekvist]

The CB650R is a handsome bike! Best looking of the bunch, but if i am going to buy a bike of this size i would go for the Z650RS.

[@roychristie1042]

You guys keep doing your reviews and mentioning how the bikes are boring the bike has a class of its own it's not a sport bike it's a very cheap bike you want thrills spend more money

[@1990-t1j]

No. 1990 [Nick J]

[@jamesgale9073]

Obviously looks are subjective, but the suzuki is really ugly

[@stevesane800]

Your scone is better looking than the CB500😉 Ohh, sorry CB750.

[@starrcenter5395]

CO2 helps your garden grow

[@TreyyDaMenaceFan]

the actual truth they dont want you to know

[@YukinPang]

That bike looks pig ugly.i buy from the ❤ The performance figures are impressive and the upside down forks combined with the radial mounted brakes make for a good ride. The frame is just so cheap looking sorry I have no interest in this bike.

[@rodericde876]

“At no point is a piston stationary” Come on! If you want to present as an authority in your subject think about it and get it right. At no point in a cycle are both pistons stationary.

[@motorsforthemasses]

You are missing the point. Obviously not stationary but the point being both pistons meet an end at the same time but not with this bike. I shouldn't have to explain that. Was trying to explain it simply, obviously there will always be the sarcastic and facetious comments.

[@LTLT900]

To change to an opposite direction it has to stop momentarily.

[@damon1957ful]

Tested each bike and no the hornet is less than the sum of the 8s, , suzuki have created a blinder, power where needed 90% of the time. Stable with fantastic weight distrbutiion , guality better than the honda and the best bit is just as the hornet is getting on song , me on the 8s is slowing down been there seen it and done it, 8s is an involving bike which flatters your poor attempt to go fast

[@kevinhorne429]

Typical Honda looking,bland and a older man’s bike.

[@DavidSmith-hn5gg]

Like a fire blade yeah 🤷

[@Steve-motorcycles]

Yeah, even stranger is that the Suzuki rides like an older man’s bike where the Hornet is much more hooligan

[@wwfww]

Looks like a chinese rip off

[@donderstorm1845]

nah Chinese bikes actually look good

[@Mark-wx1ho]

At no point are both pistons stationary, unless the engine is off.

[@motorsforthemasses]

I know that but it was a simple way to explain it, even for a microsecond, they stop at the top and return meaning at a point they are not ...oh you know what I mean.

[@Mark-wx1ho]

@@motorsforthemasses Sorry. I was just being picky.