2023 KTM 300 XC TBI Jeff's Likes and Dislikes

[@carlatamanczyk3891]

As an old 73 year old gnarly Idaho mountain trail rider, I really appreciate your evaluations and admonition to other riders about proper trail etiquette and contributing to the goodwill of trail use. Thank you Jeff.

[@slaverace1]

I appreciate that!

[@carlatamanczyk3891]

@@slaverace1 and Merry Christmas Jeff.

[@davidrose554]

Dead on Jeff. I’m on my 7th 250XC in as many years and 100% agree with everything you said. I’m working hard to get mine settled down in the rocks and roots too. I also believe there will be a lot of opportunity for tuning to make a great engine even greater. Good review. Back to the clickers!!! 😂

[@slaverace1]

Thank you. Greg at www.factorysuspensionworks.com can make you happy for under $1000. Give him a call.

[@josephflaherty3918]

We ride nasty rocks and slick single track all day long here in Arizona. We took a guy out the other day from PNW who “cuts his teeth on single track for the last 20 years”, we chewed him up and spit him out 2 miles into the ride where he turned around and went back. It’s been raining all week here and I Just rolled 15 hrs on the new bike today. I can’t tell the difference anymore from my old bike. The thing flat out rips. Drop the psi to the 120’s (dealer recommended) open some clickers and break it in. 90% of us can’t tell the difference and our riding is so poor anyways it won’t matter. The bike is unbelievable. KZbin has everyone bent out of shape that it’s too stiff. I was in the same boat. My suspension tuner said “ride the damn thing, it’s an awesome bike”. The notion that it is “border line dangerous on the trail” is a bit over the top. It breaks in and is a blast. I wouldn’t go back to my 20’ or 22’ xc if someone gave it to me. I ride with a guy that has $6k Ohlin suspension in his brand new Beta and still out ride him in the rough slow single track. Ride the bloody bike and enjoy it.

[@agee8322]

Thanks for the review Mr Slavens. Harder suspension and premix gets my vote! I had to do a lot of work on the stock 2020 xplor to get them right for me.

[@RTRrentals]

I always appreciate your video content. Always straightforward and honest with no sugarcoating. Trustworthy. Thank you

[@josephflaherty3918]

It might be honest but it’s overly picky. I trust a ton of what slavens says but I think a lot of people are getting turned off by this bike and it is an awesome platform. We ride rocks and tight slick single track all day long here in Arizona. Last weekend we took out a guy the “cuts his teeth on nasty PNW single track”, we chewed him up and spit him out 2 miles into the ride to where he turned around and went back to the truck. It’s been raining all week and today I Just rolled 15 hrs on the new bike. I can’t tell the difference anymore from my old bike. The thing flat out rips. Drop the psi to the 120’s (dealer recommended) open some clickers and break it in. 90% of us can’t tell the difference and our riding is so poor anyways it won’t matter. The bike is unbelievable. KZbin has everyone bent out of shape that it’s too stiff. I was in the same boat. My suspension tuner said “ride the damn thing, it’s an awesome bike”. The notion that it is “border line dangerous on the trail”- Jeff is a bit over the top. It breaks in and is a blast. I wouldn’t go back to my 20’ or 22’ xc if someone gave it to me. I ride with a guy that has 6k Ohlin suspension in his brand new Beta and still out ride him in the rough slow single track. Ride the bloody bike and enjoy it. We ride rocks and tight slick single track all day long here in Arizona. Last weekend we took out a guy the “cuts his teeth on nasty PNW single track”, we chewed him up and spit him out 2 miles into the ride to where he turned around and went back to the truck. It’s been raining all week and today I Just rolled 15 hrs on the new bike. I can’t tell the difference anymore from my old bike. The thing flat out rips. Drop the psi to the 120’s (dealer recommended) open some clickers and break it in. 90% of us can’t tell the difference and our riding is so poor anyways it won’t matter. The bike is unbelievable. KZbin has everyone bent out of shape that it’s too stiff. I was in the same boat. My suspension tuner said “ride the damn thing, it’s an awesome bike”. The notion that it is “border line dangerous on the trail”- Jeff is a bit over the top. It breaks in and is a blast. I wouldn’t go back to my 20’ or 22’ xc if someone gave it to me. I ride with a guy that has 6k Ohlin suspension in his brand new Beta and still out ride him in the rough slow single track. Ride the bloody bike and enjoy it.

[@rvh77]

That's exactly how I've always felt about pre-mixed gas. Do it yourself and you know it gets done.

[@motourge3061]

I appreciate this review of the new 300 XC over your previous one. I posted a reply on your first video that this is a race GNCC type bike, not so much a play or hard enduro bike and you acknowledged this! Thank you. I race "B" hare scrambles here in FL and agree that the bike needs to be pushed and works WONDERFUL here in our large FL sand whoops! Engine is a beast and again, for my racing, I like the stiffer suspension/chassis. Stock suspension, for our courses, is much better than any previous model IMO. We simply ride different terrain at different speeds...

[@OldguyinBelize]

i don't know why i torture myself. i rode KTM's in the 80-90's in "B" class RMEC. my last bike was a 95 300EXC. (bought from bill williams aka dirt broker) i packed it all in, sold my KTM's and bought 2 XR's for me and my wife, moved to Belize and started a whole new life. now with the internet, i can watch all i am missing. and it almost makes me cry. 66 yrs old now and see no way i could get back into it. enough of my pitty party,,,,,,,,, love your videos!

[@slaverace1]

Come on Bill, buy a new KTM and burn rubber in Belize. Life is toooooo short to be without a good scooter in the garage.

[@davebishop2566]

My Uncle Tom Taggart is a long time Moto mechanic. Tom and Jeff’s voices sound exactly the same. Tom preferred working on Italian road bikes but still explains how to rebuild suspension with the same voice. It’s as if Tom and Jeff were brothers. One has a man cave full of dirt machines Tom’s collection is Italian road machines.

[@QuinnBirmingham]

always appreciate your knowledge and your honesty!

[@dustinmoore8909]

I went with 6500 inserts in the front and a bladder conversion in the rear(valved/sprung for my weight), chassis is very compliant. I ride primarily PNW technical single track and hard enduro. This bike is awesome! The motor is amazing, power delivery bone stock is better than my 17 300 XC which has a high comp setup.

[@gregross4935]

Thanks Jeff! These things aren't cheap, This might help someone decide to check out their options.

[@slaverace1]

Hello: Changing to correctly revalved suspension components will give a more compliant ride but the chassis is not compliant. I also love the motor but in it's current state of tune it is not friendly for hard enduro.

[@dustinmoore8909]

I'm not sure what part of the chassis or motor is non compliant for hard enduro? This bike is great in the gnar. Currently running a 14/50 final drive, gnarly/turbincore 2.1 combo. I installed the tusk fan because it has the lowest draw. You can run that fan with the s1 head light and the stator will support both. The bike also runs Cooler than my 17 did stock.

[@ManAndMachine23]

@@slaverace1 with all due respect sir it is not an all out Enduro bike that bike is on its way as an XEW stay tuned

[@josephflaherty3918]

We ride rocks and tight slick single track all day long here in Arizona. Last weekend we took out a guy the “cuts his teeth on nasty PNW single track”, we chewed him up and spit him out 2 miles into the ride to where he turned around and went back to the truck. It’s been raining all week and today I Just rolled 15 hrs on the new bike. I can’t tell the difference anymore from my old bike. The thing flat out rips. Drop the psi to the 120’s (dealer recommended) open some clickers and break it in. 90% of us can’t tell the difference and our riding is so poor anyways it won’t matter. The bike is unbelievable. KZbin has everyone bent out of shape that it’s too stiff. I was in the same boat. My suspension tuner said “ride the damn thing, it’s an awesome bike”. The notion that it is “border line dangerous on the trail”- is a bit over the top. It breaks in and is a blast. I wouldn’t go back to my 20’ or 22’ xc if someone gave it to me. I ride with a guy that has 6k Ohlin suspension in his brand new Beta and still out ride him in the rough slow single track. Ride the bloody bike and enjoy it.

[@deep4soul]

One thing with the new seat is that now you wont be able to remove the seat without taking off your tank bag. With the past year I can run a small Giant Loop tank bag and just slide the seat on and off under it without having to unstrap it.

[@mikeburnett6222]

I purchased a new 23 TX300 last month. My TX does have Brake Tech clutch and brakes.

[@chopperz127]

Rode my TBI for the first time last weekend. 100% agree that the suspension is very non-compliant but only have 1.5 hours on it so hoping it softens up a bit as it breaks in. What a motor though!

[@slaverace1]

The suspension will break in and be a little more compliant. I rode a `23 300XC recently that had a lot of miles on the stock suspension. It felt like all KTMs do after the components break in. It retained the harshness and got wallowy on the whoops.

[@josephflaherty3918]

@chopperz127 We ride rocks and tight slick single track all day long here in Arizona. Last weekend we took out a guy the “cuts his teeth on nasty PNW single track”, we chewed him up and spit him out 2 miles into the ride to where he turned around and went back to the truck. It’s been raining all week and today I Just rolled 15 hrs on the new bike. I can’t tell the difference anymore from my old bike. The thing flat out rips. Drop the psi to the 120’s (dealer recommended) open some clickers and break it in. 90% of us can’t tell the difference and our riding is so poor anyways it won’t matter. The bike is unbelievable. KZbin has everyone bent out of shape that it’s too stiff. I was in the same boat. My suspension tuner said “ride the damn thing, it’s an awesome bike”. The notion that it is “border line dangerous on the trail”- Jeff is a bit over the top. It breaks in and is a blast. I wouldn’t go back to my 20’ or 22’ xc if someone gave it to me. I ride with a guy that has 6k Ohlin suspension in his brand new Beta and still out ride him in the rough slow single track. Ride the bloody bike and enjoy it.

[@MrFritz6940]

"If I'm gonna do an 80 mile ride, that's the bike I'm gonna pull outa the man cave." @Slavens Racing you are the man

[@Eberger82]

Do you recommend running it at the required 60:1 or would it be safe at 40:1/50:1? I'm use to the old stuff at 32:1

[@OtisFlint]

Run it at 60:1. When you add excess oil you reduce fuel and end up with a leaner burn. The engineers did the testing, don't believe random crap on the internet that contradicts the professionals with 0 supporting data.

[@scottfast03]

Awesome bike. Can’t wait for the XC-W next year with the TBI. I’m already in line! 😂❤

[@peterbennpan7288]

Do the powerbands kick in like they do on a conventional 2 stroke motox bike or are they more linear?

[@rokuabtor6834]

Heavy Flywheel options? Any new mapping options? Which oils do you recomme

[@slaverace1]

Might be a few months for flywheel and mapping options. KTM recommends Motorex slavensracing.com/shop/cross-power-2t-by-motorex/ but I use Amsoil Saber slavensracing.com/shop/saber-2-stroke-premix-amsoil/ at 100:1.

[@JUGGA_NUTT]

@@slaverace1please forgive my ignorance. I just recently purchased a 2024 300 XC. The manual says 60:1 . What are the benefits for 100:1?

[@ChrisKAloha]

Hopefully the 24 xcw is all new although I do like having a kicker on my bike. They need to incorporate a handle into the swing arm.

[@duffyrides]

I love my 23 250XC. Rode it today at the track. But I'm the opposite of what your customer base is according to you. I ride mostly moto, so I feel like this new XC is more to my liking than the previous model. And still great for the trail riding that I do from time to time.

[@chadrides914]

You ride mostly moto but you bought a Cross Country model? Please explain.

[@mw4518]

@@chadrides914 XC's are very much jack of all trades, so many ride moto with them, then also ride the trials. That is most likely what he is doing with it.

[@hermitrob5481]

I'm 54 and just went back to 2T. I went 23' XCW and that took me minute to get used to. I had only been riding 850 sleds since my late 20's. After the hiatus I didn't have much confidence in my advanced age ability and chose Honda CRF 250F. Well that took about a week. Had just dropped 30k on a new sled and trailer so had to muscle through with her for two seasons. Was good I spose just to fully get my shit together. Was gonna grab a XCF-W but they're hard to find in western Maine. While I was looking I read all the XCW reviews and feedback about being the ultimate lugger single track trail weapon so pulled the trigger on my XCW. Freakin love it. A little salty that of course KTM went to TBI in 24'. Between that and Jeff blowing up his new 24' I'm kinda pissed. Oh well I'll wait a couple years. I suffer through it 🤙

[@slaverace1]

What? I haven't blown up anything.

[@hermitrob5481]

@@slaverace1 Lol, praising it funny guy 😂🤙

[@adampotter9151]

Do you have any insight if the XC-W's are going to be TBI's as well or staying TPI's

[@jonathanrentschler3158]

Hey Jeff, Got a 2023 300 XC, and attempted to grease the linkages and swingarm bearings. Tried to remove the forward dogbone yoke bolt, and it hits the rear brake ass'y. So I tried to remove the rear brake pedal. Removed the nut on the inside, and there's not enough clearance to get it off the bolt and remove it. The bolt appears to be press-fit into the frame - didn't attempt to drive it out. What's the trick to getting the pedal removed to get the dog bone bolt out?? Thanks in advance.

[@slaverace1]

I’ve had my brake pedal pivot bolt out several times. Sounds like yours needs a little persuasion. You need to get more aggressive with it and it should pop loose.

[@matbailey85]

Who did the suspension and triple clamps?

[@mmig2116]

Love that 2 strokes are still around! Like what everything ktm is doing!

[@Nicky_Pin_It]

Jeff what's your thoughts on the fuel consumption? I remember in your first video some harescramble guys were complaining...

[@Kyle-pl6rl]

What kind of range are you getting from the stock tank?

[@slaverace1]

Kyle: I've been doing short 20-30 mile test rides and haven't done a big loop to test the mileage.

[@Kyle-pl6rl]

@@slaverace1 oh okay, I’d be curious if 50-60 miles can be achieved. Thanks for the reply

[@perezan2010]

Great Vid! Can you tell me what front light can I install for a 22 SX-F 450, Thank you an advance.

[@slaverace1]

slavensracing.com/shop/led-projector-headlight-dot-for-ktm-by-sicass-racing/

[@erniekopasz5760]

Do you think it is the chassis or the suspension settings that are causing the harshness? Or both?

[@jimzigouris]

hi from Greece i always watch and listen your videos,one question please,about this bike,what to you think for the stator?is only 44w.have you plan for bigger? causeneed lights,fan etc thank you

[@Mostviews111]

Do you think that the xcw is going to tbi or stay tpi for emissions? Not sure if I should wait or not.

[@slaverace1]

I’ve been told the W will be TBI.

[@Mostviews111]

@@slaverace1 people are saying it won't since the top end has the bungs for tpi.

[@jacebybee]

This was great and helped a lot, keep it up👍🏼

[@slaverace1]

Thanks, will do!

[@milwaukeeaterfu2190]

my beta 2020 300 was good but this sounds like the kinda beast i want! what hand guards are those?

[@slaverace1]

SXS! slavensracing.com/shop/burly-handguards-by-sxs/

[@mustangdean1]

Excellent overview, I'm going to wait for 24 300 xcw. Nice forks. Current ride 22 Beta 300 RR

[@slaverace1]

Good idea to wait for a W.

[@LocalGarage]

It looks like the shifter got into the chain. Is that crash damage? Was it adjusted up?

[@jaywalk6628]

I agree, rode a buddies tx300 and that engine is the most powerful smoker I have experienced. He sent out that suspension right away and is going with cartridges on the front.

[@darinvanderpol3351]

Jeff, are you running your Blackjack forks or is it Raven inserts? Been anxious to hear about the Blackjacks you got.

[@slaverace1]

My 2023 300XCW currently has Slavens Mule Lucky Blackjacks and the 2023 300XC has Slavens Mule Raven Blackjacks. I have a suspension video in the queue. Stay tuned.

[@mikeb4708]

I wonder if it would be possible to put an XC engine in the XC-W chassis?

[@rickstrom6097]

Great review.. Probably would be better with the old frame. It will be interesting what Gas Gas does next year with there frame. Sounds like the 250xc might be a better choice. Still have to get the power to the ground and having a stiffer frame doesn't make a lot of sense for tight woods riding.

[@damolux3388]

Interesting.......the only change will be the colour, stop kidding yourself.

[@damienmorales9082]

Thanks for the video! Do you like the TBI power delivery better than the TPI?

[@slaverace1]

Yes. The TBi is a monster.

[@davidsalinas6084]

I appreciate the video. Good stuff. Keep it flowing.

[@slaverace1]

Thank you.

[@clemoniii]

Thanks Jeff. Hopefully KTM will begin listening to customers/regular riders soon. They ran me off with their handling of warranty issues a few years ago.

[@PBmxer]

Good take on the bike. I always had an issue with ktm. Spend a ton of money then spend more on suspension that isn't even close to being ok stock. I didnt realize just how bad it was until I bought a kx250x this year and it is fantastic stock with very few flaws.

[@Phitzgood]

You were saying the throttle is very snappy and not for people with poor throttle control…. My question is, how does it compare to the kx450? Especially the first 1/4 turn. I personally have trouble with sticking tight turns with ruts and I get a nice arm pump on my right arm.

[@slaverace1]

Sorry, I have not ridden a KX450.

[@Jodab8]

thanks for the review. Which fan did you fit in?

[@slaverace1]

Trail Tech. slavensracing.com/shop/radiator-fan-kit-for-ktm-husaberg-husqvarna-by-trail-tech/

[@Jodab8]

@@slaverace1 thanks, the universal fit?

[@slaverace1]

@@Jodab8 No. The one listed in the fitment chart.

[@rz350yam]

I note a couple of things, perhaps something that’s been normal for a while, but different: rear brake lever is forward of the clutch cover more so than previous generations, maybe it has been this way since the fuelies came out. Also noted the countershaft sprocket is held on by a bolt instead of a clip. Again, maybe both occurred on earlier models and I just didn’t notice since I don’t own anything new nor have I worked on them. Just an observation.

[@Matt-yo9qg]

I spent 20 min on a 23 250xc on my very typical midwestern xc practice track and found the suspension to be maybe 30% too soft. Not W mush but will not work for me (185lbs 55yr old A) under race conditions…The owner watching me compared to my personal scooter agreed.

[@slaverace1]

Hello Sounds like you are comparing it to a bike setup/resprung for your weight, not comparing it to a stock ‘22 XC. Not comparing apples to apples.

[@Matt-yo9qg]

Exactly right. Not apples to apples at all. I was comparing a stock 23 250xc to my own set up bike. I’m 185 lbs.

[@davidgrunklee8407]

@@slaverace1 but isn't that what you are doing comparing to a W mule?

[@shameelali2549]

Is the motor the same as the xcw? Other than the ratios and tbi?

[@slaverace1]

It's an all new motor and transmission that will likely be in the 2024 XCW.

[@mustangdean1]

Excellent video, Your descriptions of bikes and parts are very accurate. I have an odd question 23 300xc what would you guess top speed is? I only ask because I'm comparing it to the beta 300 transmission for occasional light dual sport. Thanks

[@onthethrottle7104]

Can't wait to see the full Mule completion that's ready to rock.I absolutely love fully finished Jeff Slavens Mules!!! They are beautiful. Jeff, is that your home shop? I trail ride all the time, and thank you for reminding people to stay cool when seeing others on the trail! I always cool my jets as soon as I see someone walking, riding with kids, etc. on the trails. I'd like to add, guys don't be a pit racer! That means where you park to load/unload, don't act like you're bad azz, just warm up your bike and slowly get to your trail, and then once you're on an open trail, then you can twist the throttle. I can't tell you how many pit racer idiots I keep running into. Anyway, good stuff as aways, Jeff.

[@chrisbracken7889]

Have you had any issues with the gas tank not draining to empty ?

[@Gsan24]

Would the 23 engine fit in a 22 chassis?

[@Lilfella44m]

Do they have to be program since they are fuel injected

[@slaverace1]

Not sure I understand your question. They are already programmed from the factory but we will have ECU and reflash options in a few months.

[@learningtofly6804]

Good Vid! Hows the Fan working out? Is the Stator generating enough? Thank you

[@slaverace1]

Hello: Good question. I don't anticipate any problems but the stator is a little wimpy. Summer temps have come and gone so the fan hasn't kicked on much.

[@Tklatti01]

Have you had any issues shifting from 3rd gear to 4th and up? First ride was fine. Second seemed like it wasn’t wanting to shift up past third easily.

[@slaverace1]

Tony: I have not experienced that.

[@jromem7313]

I was dead set on this model but instead got the 23 xcf-w 450. Have some buyers remorse havnt had a bike in many years and really wanted the xc model but mainly planning if riding trails and single track with occasional moto. This bike was same price as the w and the w came with way more options. Hope I made the right choice. For how much these bikes are they didn't let me ride before I bought it.

[@slaverace1]

Hello: Congrats on the new scooter. It will do what you want except the moto. The 300XC is a better choice but only if you are willing to spend some $$$$ on the suspension and add a bunch of goodies. If dealers let guys test ride dirt bikes they would have a bunch of looped out/damaged bikes and hurt customers. Yes, they are expensive but what isn't and it is still cheap fun and keeps your head on straight, aka throttle therapy.

[@jromem7313]

@Slavens Racing can the xcw ride moto with a few suspension mods? When I say moto I mean just going to the track once or twice in the summer. Not gonna be sending it over 100ft jumps just want to be able to ride out there for fun. Just Seems like the xc is is lacking in every way for a woods bike and it even would need suspension work and the w comes with everything right out of the box. Thanks for your videos great job

[@spork929]

Thank you for the information!

[@slaverace1]

You're welcome.

[@Heo23]

Do you think is good for hard enduro?

[@slaverace1]

Yes. revalve the suspension, install some guards and personal items and go rip!

[@Dirtbiker-guy]

Love your stuff Jeff. Just a few things. I've heard top end reliability is an issue with these, could you please affirm or debunk a few months down the road? Also, there is a rumor of the fuel pump pick up location and that the tank cannot be emptied. Again, stuff from the internet that needs cleared up. Thank you so much for your straight forward, honest opinions. You are an amazing source of information for the dirt bike community.

[@tb1951]

This has all been cleared up from other KZbinrs. Top end reliability is the same as all other 2 strokes for the last 40 years.

[@txkid123]

Morgan at Highland Cycle had that same concern with the tank. He tested and confirmed…the left side will suck dry and the right will contain a very minimal amount of fuel. It’s initially odd though, I agree.

[@slaverace1]

Hello: The piston is the same part number as the TPi models, so I don't see an issue there. One guy posted an ugly picture of an exploded top end. He hasn't given any details so I wonder if it inhaled dirt, if he forgot to premix the fuel, if he was revving it hard in 6th gear or one of many other operator caused issues. I don't see a problem but I'm sure the internet will make a mountain out of a mole hill. Most guys are reporting the fuel tank drains completely but a few have posted the opposite. I don't buy into most internet garbage. Prefer to spend my time riding. You're welcome.

[@barkbuster426]

I moved the shifter up one notch so my boot would fit under it for shifting on my 2022 ktm 300 erzberg . I have a problem with the shifter hitting the chain when shifting. Is this common because it is nerve racking. watching the video of the 2023 xc 300 I see scrapes on the top of the shifter. Can you comment on this.

[@vsekvsek]

singletrack fuel range for stock setup?

[@slaverace1]

Most guys are reporting about 60 miles on the stock tank.

[@bigchuck1675]

Thanks for the info. Have a tx300heritage in route. 250lb so suspension is on the list. Should be an upgrade from and 05crf450r.

[@offroadtrailrider77]

Does the trail tech fan plug directly to the battery or does the harness have a plug? I need a fan and skid plate for my 23 250 XC. Great video.

[@slaverace1]

Hello: The TT fan kit slavensracing.com/shop/radiator-fan-kit-for-ktm-husaberg-husqvarna-by-trail-tech/ connects to the battery. We have plenty of fan kits and skid plates in stock for your `23. slavensracing.com/product-category/guards-2/skidplate/

[@offroadtrailrider77]

@@slaverace1thx Jeff. I called your shop and your guys got me hooked up with everything I needed. Great customer service.

[@Brojacksonenduro]

@@slaverace1 any problems with the fan draining the battery? I read somewhere people were unsure if the stator was powerful enough on these. I also have a voyager pro that I’d like to hook up but don’t wanna run outta juice in the middle of the woods.

[@michellegallimore9590]

Good question. I can't find any dealer that can tell me the wattage output on a 23 XC for a Voyager Pro and headline.

[@michellegallimore9590]

Headlight

[@brutless]

What ratio and brand of pre-mix you running

[@slaverace1]

Amsoil Saber at 80:1.

[@TDJ3rd]

Always value ypur opinions about bikes.

[@slaverace1]

Thank you.

[@hachtenduro7824]

I can imagine a stiff chassis (frame) is not a big issue if the suspension and tyre setup is good. We might just go for adapted suspension, use of tyres with not too much carcass stiffness and be happy.

[@blarpieman]

I hope you or someone develops thinner top engine motor mount braces to add flex. I am sure drilling some big holes in the mounts will allow for more flex and that is free will help. Drill a couple go ride drill a couple more or file them out and go ride until you get the desired flex.

[@slaverace1]

Hello: The factory guys actually drilled a big hole in the frame gusset, not the bolt-on motor mounts.

[@blarpieman]

@@slaverace1 Oh wow now that's gangster. No going back there. Thanks!!

[@scootypuffjr.]

Morgan sent me here

[@tonypace7046]

Rear tire looks like an IRC VE33 Gekkota. How do you like it?

[@slaverace1]

Yes. It's a VE33S gummy and it works very well. slavensracing.com/shop/volcanduro-ve-33s-rear-enduro-tire-by-irc/

[@timlandis2650]

Jeff, as always, great videos! Do you have inside info or insight into the '24 XC W Model? Specifically, will it have this TBI motor, and will they still be Oil Injected???

[@slaverace1]

Unfortunately my crystal ball is on the fritz again. My guess is the `24 W will have a stiffer frame and the new engine without oil injection.

[@Brandon-dd8dw]

will these fuel tanks fit the 300sx?

[@slaverace1]

Yes

[@Johnr37us]

Thank you for your posting this informative video

[@slaverace1]

You're welcome.

[@MrJasonfromcanada]

The stiff suspension and chassis would be a no go for me. Our riding area is mostly rocks and roots which I prefer to ride. I’d love to jump on one though to see what it’s all about. 😊

[@josephflaherty3918]

We ride rocks and slick single track all day long here in Arizona. It’s been raining all week. Just rolled 15 hrs on the new bike. I can’t tell the difference anymore from my old bike. The thing flat out rips. Drop the psi to the 120’s (dealer recommended) open some clickers and break it in. 90% of us can’t tell the difference and our riding is so poor anyways it won’t matter. The bike is unbelievable. KZbin has everyone bent out of shape that it’s too stiff. I was in the same boat. My suspension tuner said “ride the damn thing, it’s an awesome bike”. The notion that it is “border line dangerous on the trail”- Jeff is a bit over the top. It breaks in and is a blast. I wouldn’t go back to my 20’ or 22’ xc if someone gave it to me. I ride with a guy that has 6k Ohlin suspension in his brand new Beta and still out ride him in the rough slow single track. Ride the bloody bike and enjoy it.

[@MrJasonfromcanada]

@@josephflaherty3918 hell ya good to here. The only thing I could possibly compare it to is my plush xcw or insanely stiff 09 250sxf which was brutal in the woods.

[@ognightrider8730]

Thanks for the awesome info!

[@josephflaherty3918]

It will never be like a 22? A bit much over the top. 99.8% of us can’t tell the difference in suspension when we throw our leg over a bike. I’m coming off a 2020 and 2022 XC. Just rode my new 23 today (10hrs) on some nasty rocky wet Arizona single track that we always ride and I feel no different at the end of the day. Huge smile on my face and dirt in my teeth. Sure maybe it pogos a tiny bit more than my old bike in the rocks but I keep up just the same as the fast guys I normally ride with if not faster. Ride your bike and get better at riding will make more of a difference than $6k in suspension mods. I just talked to one of our local ktm suspension guys and he said, “just ride the damn thing it’s a great bike”. This is a guy that tunes and sells high end suspension lol. I think KZbin has gotten into too many peoples heads and causing them to bitch about the stiffness when if you blind folded them they wouldn’t even be able to tell the difference. Over 70% don’t race just like you said… then who cares. It’s an unbelievable bike everyone and It pulls much harder than my old bikes. I absolutely love it. Pull the trigger and ride the thing.

[@EngineerK]

yep. good carpenter never blames his tools

[@MrBe787]

What about the fuel range?

[@wednesdar452]

Don't have one of these, and don't intend to buy one, but my best riding buddy bought the Husky version, so I've been following along. Fascinating that it actually has 6 speeds instead of the 5 listed, as well as the fact that different bikes are shipping with different components. Also interesting that you're thinking much of the stiffness is coming from the frame/swingarm in addition to the suspension. Are there any tuning adjustments you'd recommend, such as tweaking clickers/running less pressure than specified in the fork, that could be performed by someone without the means to throw an additional $1000 at their brand new bike? Thank you!

[@slaverace1]

Hello: The suspension will become a little more compliant with time. As to clickers and PSI, start with the comfort settings and back off the fork pressure.

[@wednesdar452]

@@slaverace1 I will relay your advice as soon as his bike shows up... was supposed to be October, but no sign of it yet!! Thanks again!!

[@rickleg2944]

That $1000 is usually the best money you will ever spend. With a good tuner it turns your bike into a magic carpet. How do you design and manufacture a suspension that is awesome for 500,000 different riders of all sizes ,weights and skill levels? You could also just buy a Kawasaki like Patrick Barry. Evidently the KX250X is fantastic right of the showroom floor.

[@josephmann7109]

What is your bar riser/damper setup? I am tall also. Thank you!

[@slaverace1]

Hello: My current set-up is temporary. It's Xtrig PHDS with a riser spacer. I'll be soon changing to the XC Gear Mako 360SX slavensracing.com/shop/mako-360sx-handlebar-mount-for-ktm-husqvarna-gasgas-by-xc-gear/ . I'll post a video soon.

[@onthethrottle7104]

@@slaverace1 Thank you Jeff, this is good info! I was interested in the exact same thing. Much appreciated.

[@josephmann7109]

@@slaverace1 THANK YOU

[@josephmann7109]

@@slaverace1 Just Ordered...

[@jimtiller7802]

Thanks for the video.

[@slaverace1]

You're welcome.

[@ludviig]

Great video thank you.

[@craigdieterich]

you mention its such a more powerful motor. What is the horsepower vs older models?

[@bossdog2942]

Thank you keep it up

[@bam14bam]

Good stuff. Thank you for putting the comments in context at the beginning! What do you think about the 6500 kit WP offers?

[@slaverace1]

Brian: The 6500 kit is a quality product but the set-up is aimed at motocross. It can be re-valved and set up for off-road use, but where do you find a tuner that has done R&D for off-road on 6500s and has also sorted them for the new chassis? I don't think that person is out there yet. I prefer the MX Tech Raven cartridge inserts that come with springs and are tuned for your intended use. They also have more advanced technology, a better anti-bottoming system, better customer support and are made in the U.S.A. 6500s are $1420 with springs, Ravens are $1500 with springs and custom tuning.

[@hudscp]

Hey Jeff, sorry if you mentioned it but does this mean you’re back to good ol Amsoil Saber?

[@slaverace1]

Yes!

[@jackbaldwin6177]

Nice job Jeff, have you figured out if it will pick up all the fuel?

[@dougderby9454]

White map Alex. Not the green!!! Looks to be a great platform. Curious if the TE and XC-W for 24 will also be Tbi. They have lots of effort into the tpi.

[@robertbrown4341]

I appreciate your videos on everything and your honest feedback. I live in ca and we’re stuck with 2021 and older bikes that we can register. Is there a ktm 300 model you can recommend. I I ride tight trails, roots, rocks 80 miles. 4000 feet elevation. 42 years young Thank you. If you recommend a tpi is relocation a to Tbi a good mod? Thank you.

[@waynemodesitt3445]

I'm also in California and ride similar type trails....lots of challenging/technical riding. I'll be keeping my 2019 250XC. Love the bike (especially with the Lucky fork cartridges, and other Slavens Mule parts on it). Also, it will be grandfathered into the "green sticker" program here in CA in a few years. Silly California over regulation, but have to deal with it.

[@slaverace1]

Hello Robert: Since your living in the Republic of California, a 2021 300XCW is a nice bike. The relocation kit slavensracing.com/shop/slavens-mule-get-race-kit-upgrade-for-ktm-hqv-250-300tpi/ is good but you'll get a bigger bang for the buck with a Coober ECU slavensracing.com/shop/ez-ecu-for-ktm-hqv-gas-gas-300-tpi-by-coober/ or we can re-flash the O.E.M. ECU.

[@JuanM759]

There are ways around these new regulations. There are services now that will help you register your bike out of state. You will have to make it “street legal” to get plated out of state. Then you will be able to ride in CA.

[@josephcostello3779]

@@JuanM759 I have a 23 KTM. Have a title and registration (red sticker) until '24. Most new 22 and 23 bikes are being sold and registered because DMV has no idea what's going on.

[@JuanM759]

I think my reply was removed. Just do some research it’s not hard to find the info. In 2024 you won’t be re-registered in CA per the new law. So you’ll have until then to get an out of state plate for your bike.

[@theasiamtmgroup]

Is there a bike with this engine that’s softer to ride?

[@slaverace1]

Hello The 2024 KTM 300xc-w will have the same engine. Should be out in August or September.

[@theasiamtmgroup]

@@slaverace1 Awesome, thanks a lot.

[@lousplumbing2042]

You the man. Great review

[@edxr250r]

Excellent honest review from an industry expert👍👍. Are KTM selling a 250 version too and based on your thoughts regarding the response, would a 250 be a better choice for a steadier rider🤔. Thanks for videos Jeff, much appreciated 😉👍👍.

[@onthethrottle7104]

Yes, they sell a 250 version. Normally I would go for a 300...and I own three, but I have to tell you the TBI 250 is an animal and seems to be more playful than the 300.

[@matthewjensen8550]

Hey Jeff, it looks like you have a fan on that bike! We were riding last weekend and pushed hard enough to overheat the bike. I have run Trail Tech and Tusk fans in the past and was hoping to get another for this bike. I have looked both on Rocky Mountain and Trail Tech's websites and couldn't find anything for the 23 xc. Were you able to modify a previous model to get it to fit? Thanks for the great video, always super informative!

[@slaverace1]

The FN3 fan kit fits with out modification. slavensracing.com/shop/radiator-fan-kit-for-ktm-husaberg-husqvarna-by-trail-tech/

[@matthewjensen8550]

@Slavens Racing Awsome, thanks for the help!

[@mikeb4708]

Are those KYB A kit forks?

[@slaverace1]

No. Slavens Mule Raven Blackjacks!

[@mikeb4708]

@@slaverace1 ahhh so it’s the Blackjack fork with the Raven cartridge kit. What kind of outer tubes do those forks use?

[@lyndonewright330]

Think you do a fine job my question is I hear they really like gas pretty good how would you use a larger tank because the pump is mounted up high in the tank im just wondering if anyone has came up with a solution to that enjoy your videos keep up the good work

[@slaverace1]

Lyndon: At this time there are no aftermarket tanks available. I'm sure they are busy finding a solution to the pump location.

[@benhanson7361]

@@slaverace1 I ordered one for my 23 xc from IMS a couple of weeks ago it's supposed to ship mid DEC. 2.8gal with a low pickup they said.

[@ktmhein1259]

Great honest opinions and good to know the xc line is gonna be stiff!

[@josephflaherty3918]

We ride rocks and tight slick single track all day long here in Arizona. It’s been raining all week and today I Just rolled 15 hrs on the new bike. I can’t tell the difference anymore from my old bike. The thing flat out rips. Drop the psi to the 120’s (dealer recommended) open some clickers and break it in. 90% of us can’t tell the difference and our riding is so poor anyways it won’t matter. The bike is unbelievable. KZbin has everyone bent out of shape that it’s too stiff. I was in the same boat. My suspension tuner said “ride the damn thing, it’s an awesome bike”. The notion that it is “border line dangerous on the trail”- Jeff is a bit over the top. It breaks in and is a blast. I wouldn’t go back to my 20’ or 22’ xc if someone gave it to me. I ride with a guy that has 6k Ohlin suspension in his brand new Beta and still out ride him in the rough slow single track. Ride the bloody bike and enjoy it.

[@chadrides914]

@@josephflaherty3918you reply is my reply to the tee. I agree with you 100%

[@goinhot9133]

2023 300xc 57hp FI 2007 250sx 55.7hp Keihin pwk 36 carb Not sure it could be the best engine they have made.

[@my-max-media7621]

Perhaps it's not peak hp but more linear, strong and crisp at all times... more 4stroke like Jeff's referring to

[@slaverace1]

Hot Dude: Definitely the most powerful 300 KTM has built. Dynos tell little about real world riding.

[@stacksmasher]

For rocky nasty Colorado trails do you ever run a trials tire? Older guys seem to swear by them so I thought I would ask.

[@slaverace1]

Before hybrid knobbies with gummy compounds were available, I used trials tires for a couple years. Upside is they climb extremely well but there is WAY too much downside, poor braking, the sidewalls cut easily and over 10mph the bike wiggles and wobbles. Technology has surpassed the trials tire for trail use.

[@omarjensen4629]

So if i ride tight technical, rocky stuff and currently have a 20 TE would you recommend waiting to the next gen enduros? Do you have any inside knowledge of they will be pre mix too?

[@slaverace1]

Yes. The `24 TE should be a good choice. Sorry, I haven't heard much yet about the enduro models.

[@josephflaherty3918]

We ride rocks and tight slick single track all day long here in Arizona. Last weekend we took out a guy the “cuts his teeth on nasty PNW single track”, we chewed him up and spit him out 2 miles into the ride to where he turned around and went back to the truck. It’s been raining all week and today I Just rolled 15 hrs on the new bike. I can’t tell the difference anymore from my old bike. The thing flat out rips. Drop the psi to the 120’s (dealer recommended) open some clickers and break it in. 90% of us can’t tell the difference and our riding is so poor anyways it won’t matter. The bike is unbelievable. KZbin has everyone bent out of shape that it’s too stiff. I was in the same boat. My suspension tuner said “ride the damn thing, it’s an awesome bike”. The notion that it is “border line dangerous on the trail”- Jeff is a bit over the top. It breaks in and is a blast. I wouldn’t go back to my 20’ or 22’ xc if someone gave it to me. I ride with a guy that has 6k Ohlin suspension in his brand new Beta and still out ride him in the rough slow single track. Ride the bloody bike and enjoy it.

[@omarjensen4629]

@@josephflaherty3918 thanks for this insight. Can’t believe you can rock 120psi on those aer forks and have decent hold up. Isn’t there a minimum PSI they recommend staying above?

[@josephflaherty3918]

@@omarjensen4629 I’m running 126. I’m 175lbs dry and still 1.5 inches from the bottom. Dealer just said don’t run under 120. If you run them at 141psi like ktm says they are pretty stiff. AEO is one of the legit dealers and knows what’s up. Our KTM suspension Tuner out here said the same thing to run them in the mid 120’s.

[@RUSTY-A-L]

Excellent video Jeff, by the way have you ever used those "heel pegs"?

[@slaverace1]

Thank you. I have not because they are made from aluminum which is known to fail when rock bashing.

[@RUSTY-A-L]

@@slaverace1 Oh I didn't know that thanks for the reply.

[@kevinearls7496]

@rusty6314 If you are talking about the Fastway Ext models, the Air is aluminum and the Evo is steel. I bought the steel ones due to needing extra support after Achilles rupture.

[@RUSTY-A-L]

@@kevinearls7496 Thanks for the info Kevin ouchy on that achilles!

[@danarussell4246]

At least Alex didn't destroy the rear fender when he looped out. I can live with the scratch on the front fender and the dent to the pipe. If he dented it in the right place he might have de-tuned the bike a bit so he won't loop out a second time.

[@slaverace1]

There's always a bright side if you look for it.

[@Logan-tf6nk]

A big issue I've had with this bike is running out of fuel with half a gallon of gas in the tank. I've ran out after a 40 mile ride twice already.

[@slaverace1]

At 40 miles I’m just getting warmed up. That sucks but larger tanks will be available fairly soon.

[@slaverace1]

Supposedly IMS has a work around with a lower point to siphon the fuel. We have them on order.

[@Logan-tf6nk]

I saw the ims tank, but I want a bigger tank than that if I'm going to spend over 400 dollars.