2023 Porsche Taycan Software uPdate - and why the old user manual had to be torn up…! 🤔

[@ramblerandy2397]

When you talk about the Taycan's software [and you have been], and its foibles, you could be describing my ID.3. Another VW group car with, quite frankly, pretty lousy software. And yes, I know that doesn't make it a bad car. I'm sure the 'car' elements are superb. But the complete package these days is in the overall effect and intelligence of the vehicle. And laggy, limited software really doesn't cut it anymorre. I wouldn't be expecting Tesla-like sophistication, but maybe it could be as good as say... Hyundai/Kia? Here's one little bit of trivia. On my last roadtrip, quite a while back, where I'd had a software update, I noticed rapid and destination chargers popping up on thr map. Great! That was something I hadn't really noticed before. And then alongside my planned route, places of interest [POI] were popping up including... [wait for it]... petrol stations! Really VW Group? 😁

[@maxflight777]

Imagine my surprise! 😂

[@abraxastulammo9940]

Snacks or loo?

[@kappuru]

I'm not going to buy one of these cars until they get a CPU update or seriously refactor/redesign their infotainment. Poor software/infotainment is excusable in an ICE car when the driving experiences is extremely engaging (I'm thinking of iDrive when it was really bad...) but half the point of an EV is the software.

[@rafiqueahsanollah1779]

I have a Taycan 4S and it’s excellent. Have a MY22 but it has all the updates you’ve mentioned in this video. Not sure if the MY23 updates were installed prior to collection in May or if they were launching late models with the MY23 updates as standard. Same interior as you and it’s a fantastic colour and finish. Best decision I made! Don’t sell it!!!

[@maxflight777]

Gorgeous looking interior… but unless it can be driven across Europe without stress, It doesn’t appeal to me.

[@simonhughes7382]

@@maxflight777 This was my issue with it- it's double the price of the model 3 performance, without the charging network to back it up. It is SUPERB inside and I loved it, but couldn't justify the lack of any real performance increase and paying 60k more for it. Maybe when I upgrade and porsche have improved a bit ;)

[@connclissmann6514]

A wonderful putdown! Pretty much the same menu but now in colour; the selected options from that menu stay the same as before. Don't all rush together at once to your Porsche dealer as it takes a day and for goodness sake don't forget that user handbook, or your upgrade will be verboten? Stuttgart, this is 2022! Wake up!

[@HB-Productions]

Seems a little odd that you still need to go to a dealer for software updates especially if the car has WiFi or 4G/5G. OTA updates aren't new and a massive automaker like VW Group/Porsche should really have that figured out by now. Won't even begin to wonder why they still bother with paper manuals.

[@simonhughes7382]

May well be the buyers. My dad (porsche owner who went GTS 911 over the Taycan, I would imagine would be aghast at the lack of user manual- even though I try and pull him kicking and screaming into 2022!

[@Robert-cu9bm]

Different dealership experience. They probs check over the car at the same time and fix any problems, ie replace recall parts.

[@Chris-yc3mm]

My first thought was that Porsche needs a wash and then i realised it was meant to look like that 🤣

[@stephenwensley9328]

Imagine the youngster at Porsche trying to get it clean and ready for customer collection 😂

[@RSEV]

😂

[@kengormley4530]

have you had any heater issues ??

[@brybish]

Actually Richard it's clever by Porsche you have to go to the showroom walking by the latest models, and you said your thinking of moving it on could that be for a higher performance model?

[@ChuckJ1944]

Thank you so much for the review. I have a 2020 Taycan 4S which is being updated on tomorrow I pick it up Friday. I drove the Turbo S when I considered buying a Taycan and I've had the 4S for 2 years now and I like the 4S better than a TurboS. I look forward to the new charging curve very much.

[@celticminkster9147]

The 4S is a slouch compared to the Turbo or Turbo S,why would you want the 4S over them?

[@ChuckJ1944]

@@celticminkster9147 3.8 seconds to 60 is plenty fast for me, personally. It is faster than the 2012 911 I sold when I got it.

[@kengormley4530]

brilliant narrated review ......thanks very much mate ......my new machine is coming in May so hopefully will have the updates installed. i would advise staying clear of keyless entry with all the thief's at the moment if you don't have good home security

[@kburke1965]

Can you scroll thru favourite stations using the steering wheel buttons yet?

[@johnmackay5288]

Interesting video, I can see why you kept it over a year, stunning car in a class of it’s own. The estate version is a really well proportion car too. Thank you.

[@Alex-fr9tg]

I hate the process for updating the car, 8 hours and it has to be a dealership?? Most appointments are weeks out today. Not to mention everytime there is an update some new software glitch shows up.

[@kinross24]

Has it just had the same as the VW ID3 etc update? My wife’s ID3 has to go in for 2 days to go from V2.3 to V2.4 which means replacement of the 12v battery for a better one and also then allows the car to receive update V3.0. V3.0 has efficiency improvement which reduces the 6kw energy used from 5’c or less to heat battery to 15’c, now uses 1kw from 0’c up to 6’c. Faster charging, more miles range. More power. Parking assist. Better lane assist. And many more!

[@SeenThroughaLens]

They have had mine for a week as the update keeps failing.

[@frodemarkhus3692]

Nice video .I will go to workshop 4 okt. for this updates Thank you MR.

[@GT-22]

Nice car but this all seems stressful. I now expect EVs to make my life less stressful. I'm also saying this having experienced the simple, clean and elegant design and operation of a Tesla model Y rental. Would never have thought I'd actually say this but here I am.

[@simonhughes7382]

Tesla have really moved the game on, and I'm 100% petrolhead who likes their buttons all over the place!

[@Cassp0nk]

Tesla Y has poor quality cabin materials, under designed interior and exterior, no drivers binnacle, poor NVH and touch screen for everything. Not everyone wants that.

[@xyredmax]

Rich - Porsche told me that coasting is more efficient and useful on a track and that is why it does not have 'one pedal driving'. It is also the main reason why I didn't buy it on launch, along with the whine from the motors when braking - regen I think. I hope they include it on the Macan EV, if not, I can add that to the list of cars I wont be buying. Great review as ever. BR Mark

[@Robert-cu9bm]

It is more efficient at highway speeds.

[@ravey_boii]

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[@MrFlyingguy]

Big shout out to "gentz" you can defo tell when he is there now you explained.

[@boonwin]

Is there an option to change the cockpit view to 3 instruments like in the old software? I don't have the car in just a computer scientist and for me it looks like somewhere on the way the view for reduced from 3 to 2 virtual instruments

[@teslaejj2290]

Another great video - well done and thanks. You pick up loads of points that I couldn’t get used to when I got my 2s when they first came out. I found that my Porsche dealer didn’t have a clue about electric cars and were not at all sympathetic so I decided to sell up and move on. Now waiting for my i4 M50 (still) but will come back to Porsche when they step up their systems to the next level (I expect it should be more sorted for the e-Macan). It really goes to show what a superb job Tesla have done on their tech side of things. Looking forward to when legacy car companies can match their ability to build great cars with the tech side of things.

[@chris8535]

Yea I did the same with my 4S. Owned it for 1.5 years, amazing car, but disappointing overall package/experience with software and dealer. When I sold it back it had 6 recalls on it and it spent a lot of time at the shop while the dealer just shrugged their shoulders and blew smoke. Sold it and moved on, but I wish it had worked out better.

[@sebekkha]

Porsche/VW group showing just how far behind in terms of technology they are compared to Tesla. Needing to take your car to a main dealer to receive software updates over the air is an Oxymoron if ever I've heard one 😂. But in all seriousness, it's 2022 and the equivalent would be Apple or Windows requiring owners to take their devices into a main store to update the OS. Its shows the limitations of the Taycan and the complete reliance Taycan owners on Porsche to do even relatively straightforward things.

[@brandon7136]

the update he's speaking of is supposed to enable full OTA updates. only time will tell.my car is currently getting this now and takes 4-5 days.

[@mullholand]

@@brandon7136 The thing is Porsche was touting "OTA updates" when they first started selling the cars.....

[@BK-tx2vw]

When Japanese cars took the market by storm, the big car makers were a day late and a dollar short! Looks like they learned nothing from that, still flat footed and behind the 8 ball! I would think Porsche would have better tech. Guess not, as always, great content!😊

[@Robert-cu9bm]

They're more about the driving experience.

[@garrylong2993]

Teslas the tech company, Porsche has the driving experience and car stuff down better

[@simonhughes7382]

Is the previous lack of keyless entry to prevent thefts which have been on the increase with keyless?

[@Durzel]

No, it’s just Porsche making absolutely everything you can think of a (usually paid) option.

[@Robert-cu9bm]

@@Durzel You can have anything in a Porsche if you have the budget. It only costs €10k to ask the question, then they'll tell you how much that custom option will cost.

[@ChuckJ1944]

Have you checked for increased range after the uPdate?

[@RSEV]

Not really but it’s on the agenda to do if I get chance

[@kburn]

I echo other people. The best EV bar none with the worst software and entertainment systems. Check out the BMW IX and their implementation of Apple car play (with car key) to see it done right.

[@JosephRawsthorne31]

I wonder if Porsche will get the new apple car play coming out in 2023?

[@automobilepathshalatrainin6624]

How can i connect with you and mail you? We have porsche taycan issue.

[@edwardhackett-jones8126]

This is hilarious - They’re printing manuals for an EV?!

[@RSEV]

I know… crazy 🤦‍♂️

[@simonhughes7382]

German efficiency?!

[@Robert-cu9bm]

Porsche buyers the tend to be a more mature crowd, and probs like the feel of a physical book. Plus in the future when these are classics, the ones with a manual will have better value.

[@minafarooq32]

Great Video. Thank you

[@ravey_boii]

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[@physal5496]

So far my software update made the pcm feels a little bit more snappy, colors are nice but unable to make the apple music work even though linked the apple music account to porsche id, also the my porsche app is possibly the worst app ever, glitchy and hardly ever connects to the car

[@RSEV]

Yeah app is woeful. There must be stuff in back ground not utilised because for such a major update where car has to go in, we see little change. For the “power flow” you have to be in car>trip covering all main screen and nothing at all on drivers binnacle for some reason. The chrono now does gps lap timing at last but the visuals on usability isn’t brilliant (not that many people would use it!). Tesla with track mode manages it better and much more simply. But the Porsche is just lovely to drive!

[@physal5496]

@@RSEV yes the software overall falls short of porsche standards what they have for their cars, i still love my bmw idrive 7 which i think still far superior, however when i drive the taycan, i just forget about everything and couldn’t care less of this software or screens, the drive is such a pleasure and the driving dynamics just overwhelms you

[@rossowen422]

That infotainment has more lag than than a fiat 500L and that's going some

[@abraxastulammo9940]

"Fiat beats Porsch in speed" 🤣

[@Durzel]

Why is it in the year 202x these cars still come with UI/UX processing hardware from the 2010s? It’s like an old knackered Android tablet, you tap an icon and there’s a good second or more before anything happens. It’s such a minor component (Teslas had Intel Atoms until recently) yet it makes the usability so much worse. Every interaction is laboured. Why do these marques go for such underpowered CPU/GPUs for this stuff? Totally ridiculous, especially on cars of this value. Also just lol that a £126k car doesn’t have keyless go unless you pay more. Classic Porsche.

[@Robert-cu9bm]

Cheaper chips, which is now a problem because the chip manufacturers don't want to make the cheaper chips that go into cars because they have more profit and bigger demand for the better ones. Hence the reason it's hard to get a new car because the chip shortage.

[@barryjdwyer]

That's like spending £1750 on top of the line iPhone and loading up the software from the V-Tech Video painter on it.

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[@lukehebb]

How is a premium car with a touchscreen display that is THAT slow acceptable in 2022?! Wow!

[@lukehebb]

@@mra8972 such as? If you mean Tesla that’s an outdated comment. I own a model y and it’s perfectly built

[@LocoSkates]

Agree. It’s a dealbreaker. I would genuinely take faster touchscreen (Tesla) over better handling (Taycan)

[@lukehebb]

@@LocoSkates honestly me too, handling is something you only really experience when going fast which is rare in day to day driving. That touchscreen gets used on a daily basis

[@brandon7136]

​@@LocoSkates no offense but I couldn't imagine buying a vehicle for the screen and not the driving characteristics. This is precisely what separates the two types of customers and cars. people have different priorities.

[@mullholand]

Please get the Tesla Roadster the second it comes out.

[@TheBuddhaChick]

If I was a betting man I’d say it’s a hardware change up under the pretense of only a software update. Possibly a hush hush recall. And they absolutely must have your old manual?? Their transparency is very clouded.

[@Robert-cu9bm]

That's standard in the auto industry. When you take it in for a service they change defected parts as well

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[@IslaSprollie]

Obviously not as good as Tesla but Porsche are streets ahead of Honda. My Honda e has never had an update and probably never will, even though it is capable and there are a few changes that I would like and could be done with software.

[@SirHackaL0t.]

Is this a re-upload? I could swear that I’ve seen this yesterday.

[@Harrythehun]

The ending in that video was a bit strange, there for a new video.

[@RSEV]

Yesterdays had a rendering bug so took it down and re-uploaded today

[@jamesk3565]

@@RSEV I searched the comments just for this🤣 I had a feeling when I saw it uploaded again

[@rexjamo]

Tesla battery needs changing. "OMG MY TESLA BATTERY DIED!!!". Porsche battery needs changing "btw, we had to get the battery changed"

[@Robert-cu9bm]

The Porsche battery sunk a ship.

[@nikelliot8105]

I ask myself "does Tesla do it like this?" If not, it's costing Porsche money (profit) and will ultimately cost them. ICE sales keeping VW group afloat at the moment, government bail out before 2030 unless they get a grip and get their A team on EV development.

[@Durzel]

These marques are stuck in the past. If you didn’t go to the big glass fronted dealership, what else would you need to go there for? EVs are supposed to be less maintenance intensive by design, but these marques aren’t going to downsize their dealership network willingly. Expect cars like this to still need to go back to the dealer for “servicing” and “inspections” for years.

[@Robert-cu9bm]

They've sold 75000 in a couple years They planned on 20k per year, so I don't think they're doing badly.

[@steve45678]

I'm sure I've seen this before?

[@RSEV]

Has yes amended render and re-uploaded

[@maxflight777]

Unless a BEV has strong regen, I can’t understand how it can acheive high efficiency. Selectable regen is an anathema to me.

[@Xenon0000000000001]

On a lot of cars (not Teslas) they regen when you press the brake pedal, so all the settings are doing is changing which pedal is controlling most of the regen.

[@rggb5876]

The Taycan regens with up to 290 kW. Tesla with up to 70 kW. The Taycan regens on the brake. So you think you break, but you donˋt.

[@abraxastulammo9940]

Regen on demand

[@Robert-cu9bm]

Regen has efficiency losses, coasting is more efficient.

[@gothmog2441]

And ability to switch off a motor completely (as per induction motors used in front of some Teslas) is more efficient than permanent magnet motors, which I gather are hard to switch off…

[@andyhamilton5926]

Coming from a Tesla perspective, it's ridiculous to me that you have to push a button an a key to unlock the car (unless you now pay to have it after the "software" update) and then push another button to "start" the Taycan, and then wait a while for it to be ready to drive. Unbelievable. And that laggy software is dreadful. And what nonsense going to a dealer for an OTA - I think you will find, if you asked, that the CHANGED some hardware under the guise of a software update and never admitted it. Other channels and web sites suggest Porsche may have more problems with batteries (fires, vehicle suddenly stops, charging issues etc) than they want us all to think. Which leads me to imagine that the enforced destruction of older owners manuals (which I have NEVER heard of by any automotive manufacturer) suggests a cover-up attempt by Porsche to scale-back on commitments and specifications ... Not impressed. Buy a Tesla Model 3 AND a Model Y instead - each better in almost every practical way :)

[@maxflight777]

Andy. I could have made an identical post. Well said. 👍

[@GT-22]

They have 3 steps where they could have one. Also wondering why I have to look at all the other functions on another screen all the time. It's like having the iPhone having a second and third screen just so you can see most of the options you have available to adjust. lol

[@tomdc4172]

well, thats not enterly true. My taycan CT opens when approaching the car and is ready to drive off without pushing any startbutton, no wait. In tesla it's ridiculous that you can only option 5 paintcolors, 2 rims and 3 interiour finishes.

[@GT-22]

@@tomdc4172 That's good to know. Thanks. As for options, I'm okay with limited selections for now as I'm still wowed by all the tech in these EVs. So most of my attention is in that. Sort of like the iPhones all really look similar with few color options.

[@Taycanist]

All good and well… but Tesla is not beautiful.. that’s the problem my friend :(. Compares to Taycan, it stays cheap

[@ralfulrich6254]

let me save you 20 min......software update at the dealer...icons now have colors. Thank me later.

[@MrGMawson2438]

Hello mate

[@mrsith1402]

VW can't do software

[@melcragg7814]

Why have a wasteful paper manual?

[@cristinalee1319]

2:33

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[@phillipnelson3586]

Get on with already

[@sheldonv8]

Going to a dealer for an update ???? These German cars are so old fashioned and quaint 🙄🙄

[@abraxastulammo9940]

What is better than to visit a Porsche dealership and check if they have the new GT3 RS? 😁

[@sheldonv8]

@@abraxastulammo9940 sorry, not into classic cars. Pistons are SO last century.

[@Robert-cu9bm]

@@sheldonv8 they ain't going anywhere anytime soon.

[@maxflight777]

Nineteen minutes of reasons to choose a Tesla ! 😂

[@jakkes37]

Software and the updates make the tycan a shitty car. It’s nice to drive but all software related things give me a hard time. Try upgrading a original dashcam that one is even worse and buying a option (software) eg opening with foot and hand gesture does not happen after paying. Porsche is like hell in all those things

[@ralfulrich6254]

Yeah, we all love tesla software updates....oh, nice, new update..install...20% less range...fxck!

[@billnipp2309]

Paper hahahaha how barbaric

[@andresmattos7541]

Overpriced

[@hamhead8650]

Just had 2yr acc £700.00 On an electric Taycan shit software rip off really charged for brake fluid change in a car that has no brakes 99% of the time enjoy