2023 Subaru Solterra | First Drive

[@solomonshaffer832]

Drove one today...it's unremarkable. Comfortable interior button no way compares to a Model Y. Worlds of difference!

[@gregvogel9859]

At 228 mile range and 1 hour charge time, it doesn't make for a very practical off-roading car. As someone who enjoys driving on forest roads to remote hiking and camping spots out of Seattle, I really need a range closer to 300 miles, or the ability to recharge before heading into the mountains or just out of the mountains at a much faster rate like the EV6 or model Y. This would work great for everyday driving around town, but I just can't see myself practically taking this car on my adventures.

[@slandshark]

I live near Seattle. Where exactly do you drive to find 'remote hiking and camping spots' that needs 300 miles of range (and what do you drive right now that gives that range)? East of Ellensburg or something? From Seattle you can get to pretty much all of the mountain passes, camping spots, and forest roads within 60 to 100 miles or so. The Olympics are about 100 miles out. Snoqualmie Pass is 50 miles. Leavenworth is 115 miles. Crystal Mountain is about 85 miles. Mt Rainer is 90 miles. I'm guessing you must be talking about driving from Seattle to eastern Washington. Heck you can get to Yakima from Seattle in only 142 miles. Ellensburg has great charging stations for that trip.

[@gregvogel9859]

snoqualmie pass, leavenworth, crystal etc are not remote. I also live in north Seattle so add 10 miles except for Leavenworth. But here are some examples. Tacoma Pass (100 Miles), Mineral Creek Trailhead/north end of the needles (120 miles), Teanaways (~117 miles depending on trail head) just to name a few of my favorites. Additionally for optimal battery performance you ideally don't want to operate your below 10% or above 80% giving you 70% of effective range or roughly 160 miles in the case of the soltera. Again, not a huge deal if you had a faster recharge, but having to plug in around north bend for half an hour to an hour to get the final charge to get home is problematic for me.

[@vagabond1776]

The 228 mile range will be more like 114 during the winter months.🤪 Stick to an ICE or hybrid for your remote camping needs.😜 EV’s are for city dwellers…I wouldn’t risk my life or time off-roading with an EV.

[@slandshark]

@@vagabond1776 you don't lose half mileage in winter, that's a total fabrication.

[@vagabond1776]

@@slandshark true. But without a heat pump you’ll still lose close to 30%. Regardless, I still wouldn’t take an EV for an extended off-roading or overlanding adventure, especially in remote areas. You’re already at risk with an ICE, don’t need to lesson the odds of getting stuck.🤪

[@lowlanz]

0:28 Exterior-wise, the only difference I see is the front grille. Rest is the exact same. That seems a bit lazy. I guess they just wanted to re-badge BZ4X for the tax incentives.

[@RRLV434]

It was a joint venture between the two companies. I agree it does seem a bit lazy of them, they should have differentiated the exteriors a bit at least

[@obidean3964]

Yea they should done more to distinct from each other like how Hyundai Kia did

[@That_ModelY-vf5sp]

there are also differences in the front and rear lights

[@paulholterhaus7084]

@@RRLV434 RIGHT...TWO companies...Toyota and BYD..........Subie simply rebadged.............Paul

[@sdk1991zzang]

Damn... the fact that you need to wait 3 times longer in order to charge up to 80% is just unacceptable for me.

[@markplott4820]

it has SLOW fast charging........lol.

[@dronexproductions6442]

Why did they so that? To make the battery last longer so long in fact both Toyota and Subaru offer a 10 year / 90% charge warranty vs 8 yr / 80% other mfg offer. Listen simply charge your EV at home overnight using a Level 2 like most folks do. Fast charge stations are for road trips… charge up every 400 km 248 miles (eco mode), grab a bite and stretch those legs. Fly if you’re in a hurry.

[@markplott4820]

@@dronexproductions6442 - Toyota already has OUTDATED battery Technology. TESLA has Superior battery TECH in the 4680 Nickel cell using Dry Electrode. and Tesla is building the DRY Cathode factory in AUSTIN.

[@sdk1991zzang]

@@dronexproductions6442 why are you making excuses for toyota? Lol it's clearly struggling with evs.

[@klaus8458]

The rudimentary offroad trail performance is decent and where I live in Bavaria is useful/ The 8.3' ground clearance can be enhanced by taller all terrain tires. This is a interesting choice ever the Tesla, Ford, Hyundai and KIA. Some of need this kind of utility. No way a Ioniq5 or Model Y can reach my cabin due to clearance. I'm interested!

[@cdbuiles]

other cases where the 8.3' is usefull ground clearance is in Canada where we have some heavy snow storms, and for a few days there is uneveness created by the snow being packed by vehicules driving over; or when salt is added to melt it ice clumps form and stay on ground for a few days.... a mess... this woudl be very usefull under those conditions.

[@kiwan5425]

Not even a single Japanese reviewer's satisfied with this and bz4x.

[@paulholterhaus7084]

Taller tires mean smaller wheels giving identical ride height....OR violating certification standards..........Paul

[@paulholterhaus7084]

@@cdbuiles 10" is even better just to avoid banging doors/bumpers on curbs,ETC..........Paul

[@tomdrummy4984]

Would be good looking vehicle without the black mess around wheel wells

[@MoMoPuppy23]

My local dealership has like 8 available and they reduced the price to 33K for the premium model. is it a good deal?

[@patrick4979]

I will probably wait for a couple years before getting any sort of EV. Battery technology is making huge strides in such a short period of time. In the next year or so I believe 400 miles per charge will be standard with the short recharging time. Some EV’s like Kia are doing pretty good.

[@josephpanozzo4815]

It’s not bad looking except for the unpainted fenders. I want to like electric cars, but real world range and long charging times have to improve to justify their high prices.

[@FLJAMESFL]

I feel like this is how Toyota represents being a reliable electric car. One that you can drive past the 10 year battery warranty..

[@vanessaskerhut2811]

What is the range when it is carrying something not aerodynamic, a pair of bikes? I can feel my tank empty with just the outback bars pulled out. Does the backseat fold fully down flat or angled like the outback?

[@damilolaakanni]

228 miles. For Subaru's first attempt at an EV, not bad. And still pretty practical (no front trunk though). More can be done though, in terms of range and fast charging especially.

[@markplott4820]

Subaru , did not Engineer or make it. its a TOYOTA e-Tinga platform , subaru Designed the interior & body sculpt. at best Soltera is a COMPLIANCE car .

[@jeffreywong6842]

Agree 100%! This looks a lot better than the Toyota BZ4x.

[@markplott4820]

still a poop mobile, crap COMPLIANCE car.

[@mjhowson2389]

Subarus are very popular in New England and other cold climates. I owned one as my winter car and it was a tank in the snow. It never left me stranded, even in the worst of snow storms. What sort of real world range will the Soltera get in 10 degree weather? $45k is a lot of coin for something with limited range and slow charge speeds. This might make a good second car in a two car family. I’d recommend buyers lease one. The battery and charging tech are already behind the competition. Maybe Gen 2 will be more competitive.

[@robertgauntt554]

I live in the bay area. Subaru and Toyota are testing some serious de badged evs here. Wouldn't be surprised if this is a test market car to feel things out. Looking forward to real car companies with tested track records putting some competition to Tesla.

[@chrisw429]

I think I could have driven that "dirt road" in a Tercel.... Curious to know if the Toyota EV's are as limited in AWD capability as their hybrid offerings.

[@TechGently]

Tercel, I loved that little tank, that car could do anything.

[@robertgauntt554]

I too had one. The awd worked like a charm in ice slicked Rocky mountain roads even with those skinny little tires.

[@anthonyc8499]

Solterra's 220 miles of range and 1 hour to charge 10-80% is a complete failure. Subaru owners are adventurous and need their car to do big miles out to the beach, desert, and mountains. The Solterra will barely make the one-way trip and will take forever to recharge to come back.

[@michaelwiebe4282]

I agree! There will never be an EV in my driveway!

[@equarg]

I used my old Subaru (1993, one of the last FWD) as a daily driver. But it was up steep country roads both ways to get to my house. That old Subaru, when good chains were put on it, could plow thru 10+ inches of fresh snow uphill! I went further in a snow drift then two trucks did once during a storm! I would of gone further but the snow sprang up on me lifting the front end up…and it was a front wheel drive😅. Put almost 400K miles on her before she died. She was a good car. Heck, I got into an argument with a mechanic over her now being an AWD. The look on his face when he look under her was PRICELESS! Edit: In the winter, one way was called “Snow Drift Ally” and the other “The Ice Rink”. Did I mention they were both steep uphill roads?

[@andrewgoldberger4880]

@@michaelwiebe4282you’re simply against EV’s, not the Solterra. When in reality, this EV is a poor excuse considering the technology of electric vehicles has evolved far beyond what was put into this car

[@TruthFLA]

Yay Mike Danger!

[@kiwan5425]

It's like a Sony Walkman in 2022.

[@googleit1131]

"Well make this first drive video a quick one" *looks at video length Idk, this seems longer than a lot of your full review videos

[@elijahjenkins1669]

Wish they could still look like Normal cars. They weren’t the worst looking but I’m not in love. Tho the fender flares where a good touch

[@KF7FDB]

Range is way too small to make use of the ground clearance. Feels like use case would have to be extremely specific.

[@isferfun3909]

Both are my fave brands. But where's the frunk? None in both Soltera and BZ4x ? Why no frunk? i'll wait till they make frunk available before jump into ev.

[@darknessislight3689]

4:04 going up that hill 😳 would have me 😭 I hate heights 😍 beautiful ☝🏾 but not for me 🫣

[@klaus8458]

The dumb money say they will never own an EV and 220 miles range is not enough when their daily commute is 10 miles per day. Dumb money will continue to pay $7 gallon while EV drivers charging at home are paying pennies.

[@beardown6574]

Cool that they did testing on Catalina. nice flying eyes sunglasses Micah ;)

[@naveenthemachine]

The Koreans absolutely stomp on this in every way possible Lack of Ground clearance and predicted longer term battery life are a minor knock here

[@sammydavis991]

Nah, love the a Japanese auto industry! Keep trolling though.

[@Jferrari427]

Almost 50K…almost 20K higher than an average Subaru …how long would you need to own it to make up for the electric premium vs buying a gasoline motor? I’m guessing at least 10 years.

[@TruthFLA]

If your in California, i would say significantly less than 10 years. Plus those calculations never factor in the amount of time spent going to the gas station over the course of ownership. If you charge this at home and if our gas prices remain where they are, it will take significantly less than 10 years to make up the difference.

[@michaelwiebe4282]

If you are in Germany, the time would be significantly lower!

[@joeisawesome540]

Tax credit too

[@TruthFLA]

That 10 year number was first used on the early hybrids, 100k Teslas and 2.99 gas. We are in a different world now

[@TruthFLA]

@@joeisawesome540 you may or may not see the tax credit depending on other factors in your life it's typically not good to factor that in up front it's good to keep it in mind but it's not like every single person will automatically get a $7,000 refund. That's just not the case 100% of the time

[@angrygamer2713]

Toyota and Subaru sits in the same table and talks about how to draw each pthers cars

[@harold1901]

Nice!! What is your thoughts on Fisker Ocean? Only reason is it's $37,499 for Ocesn Sport and they have a lease starting at $379 a month with 30,000 miles a yr.

[@socalsp3]

sure they do...

[@markplott4820]

FISKER is a FRAUD. Heinrich Fisker is not even an Engineer, he is a HACK DESIGNER. and the OCEAN is not even ENGINEERED by Fisker, the ENGINERING was done by MANGA. Fisker Ocean is a FRAUD.

[@jasmachugh4222]

Catalina Wine Mixer!

[@wp8639]

Where is Lyn? I am disappointed she doesn’t do the pop up cameo. 😁

[@gwgrote5]

M, nothing you do is a "B" role. Your reviews are always informative and enjoyable. When you take the Solterra off-road, I feel that I'm actually in the car. Although we miss Mike Danger, you handle yourself just fine.

[@adams1696]

The only person who misses mike danger is you. I prefer Lynn and Micah 1000x over. When it’s mike I just stop the video lol!

[@charlesmwangi4821]

E.V's off-road is hilarious.how will you charge it up in the Australian outback??

[@googleit1131]

You can go off-road in many other places other than the Austrailian outback...

[@tinker1148]

Solar

[@charlesmwangi4821]

@@googleit1131 true,but the whole point of going off the beaten path is to disconnect.you will find that hard to do in an EV no matter which destination you choose

[@charlesmwangi4821]

@@tinker1148 try that if you have an EV and see how long it takes plus the size of panels you would have to add to your load.its impractical bruh

[@BTC909]

Probably 5000 Bz4x in 2022, how many Solterra's?

[@trspotr]

That's not Subaru airplane 🤷‍♂️ (You know Subaru makes planes right, Micah? 😂)

[@kevtop351]

Does that steering wheel look a little thick?

[@TikiShootah]

We got dirt here, what's with the plane trip lol.

[@TechGently]

Subaru making this vehicle, is akin to Apple putting out new MacBooks with Microsoft Windows as the OS. Subaru means off-roading travels in the woods (hence Forester/Outback Wilderness models and the high ground clearance). With 200 mile range I can't even get to Sequoia from here 213 miles away by car from here in Pasadena to there, and I don't trust that range. Meanwhile my 2020 Subaru Forester averages 450 miles on a full tank. When you get to Sequoia, it's another 50 or so miles just to get to the top area and another 50 or so miles at least to get to Kings Canyon. Get me a car with 500 mile range and THEN call it a Subaru.

[@patriciodeantas539]

flying a small team of journalists in a private jet to an island, to test an electric vehicle is just......smh

[@RedwoodRider]

The big propeller is a hint that the airplane wasn't a "jet". 😊

[@FT_Dingo]

Everything about that exterior just hurts my eyes

[@carlosandleon]

don't buy it then

6,6kwh AC Home Charge is low! Our BMW i3 bought in 2018, had 11kwh AC from it’s debut in 2013, nine years has passed. Our Home wallbox provide 11kwh from a 3phase * 16A. Should we accept half the throughput with BZ4X/Solterra. I have read that Subaru will provide 11kwh AC from October 2022. More: 4WD will only support 100kwh DC while BZ4X 2WD with another battery manufacturer 150kwh DC. Strange. Anyways: The Subaru will have the best quality reputation and 220 miles should be more than sufficient for 95% of the customers. Ground clearance and their legacy on 4WD is good reasons for choosing the Solterra in 4 seasons climate. Like in North America. Or Norway.

[@Anonymous-pm7jf]

These legacy automakers need to quit designing EVs such that it screams "Look at me I'm different." It's really off putting.

[@citibear57]

Nice that Subaru now has an EV in their lineup. I think I would prefer the Solterra, only because it has a less dorky name than the bZ4X (or 'biZarre 4X4' as I like to call it). The black fenders leave a lot to be desired, which seem that they were trying to imitate those of the Hyundai Kona, that are much nicer (IMO).

[@cheez1012]

I agree, I don't like how cars are adopting the black plastic, I haven't seen a single good looking car with a huge chunk of black plastic on their bumper

[@Errhhk]

Nerd

[@markplott4820]

soltera is poop on a stick. its nothing but a COMPLIANCE car , and handles and Drives like a outdated GAS car. its actually built on a GAS car platform.

[@stutterbox36]

I can’t get my charging speed to go faster than 33kw on a fast charger

[@timan2039]

Unless the Toyota has Subaru’s AWD system I wouldn’t bother if I was looking for a new 4 wheel drive.

[@jewpiterjones]

Toyota paid to fly you in a private jet yet this video is not marked as "contains paid promotion."

[@googleit1131]

Range is fine. Looks are subjective. But why no fast charging? When everyone else offers fast charging, you basically destroy the possibility anyone who may want to drive further would buy the car. I'd rather pay a little more and get fast charging so I can actually travel in the thing and not have to wait more than a hour to charge the vehicle.

[@mr74marco61]

Because charging faster is damaging battery capacity with the time, with the bz4x/Solterra you can have a warranty on the 90% of battery capacity after 10 years. Others (Tesla, VW) are offering only 70% after 8 years.

[@lucasl.5084]

The Lexus RZ looks so much better

[@hy77281]

It’s a shame that it’s the same lackluster halfassed EV attempt underneath tho

[@darknessislight3689]

Always a fantastic review 👍🏾 say 👋🏾 to the family ☺️

[@markplott4820]

Soltera is a Garbage COMPLIANCE car.

[@darknessislight3689]

@@markplott4820 Ok ! Then don’t buy one 😏

[@garrettjenkins6847]

Man… You have the best job! Lucky! Great review but I’m not a fan of the exterior of this thing.

[@maciejszumny6919]

Bravo, Subaru. You introduce the “green”, “zero emission” electric vehicle and you’re flying journalists in a private jet. Well done. When can I apply for job at your PR office?

[@saintsubie6661]

They should’ve just made an electric Forester…

[@markplott4820]

Subaru does not understand Batteries, or Electric motors.

[@colechapman6976]

I think my only issue with this car is that it doesn't really look like a Subaru. It looks too much like a Toyota, and that is bad for Subarus brand. I know Toyota basically owns Subaru at this point, but the complete lack of rugged design or ground clearance basically means this car abandons those core tenets of what makes a Subaru a Subaru. They should've copied the design of the Outback and make this car 8.7 inches, like a proper Subaru

[@jonlosito2004]

Yea but they don’t have the Wilderness edition for the Solterra yet. Bet yr waiting on that…

[@colechapman6976]

@Kevin K Never said Toyota owns Subaru. I said Toyota basically owns Subaru, not in it's entitrety. They are their largest shareholder, so it's reasonable to assume they leave their mark on a lot of Subaru decisions and cars now

[@colechapman6976]

@Kevin K It's just that this Subaru doesn't feel or look like a Subaru. It looks too much like a bland Toyota crossover, which is dissapointing

[@colechapman6976]

@Kevin K I think they charge that much because of fuel savings that you can achieve with the Solterra. These are two different vehicles. One being gas, the other being electric. The electric vehicle gives you 105ish mpg, while the Impreza gives you 30ish mpg. The Soltera does start at 45k, but the fed gives you 7k for buying it. So it's realistically 38k starting price for an EV that gets 105 mpg. Now it's starting to look pretty good. The Solterra also gives you more space. The Impreza is 176.2 inches long. The Solterra is 184.6 inches long. The Solterra is 73.2 inches wide, and the Impreza is 70 inches wide. Furthermore, the Solterra also offers more ground clearance. The difference is the Soltera is 8.3 inches while the Impreza is 5.1. The engine on the Soltera is bigger too. The Solteras horsepower figure is 215. The Impreza horsepower figure is 152. I think that the extra 20-ish price tag on the Solterra is justified since it's faster, bigger, and more fuel-efficient. It's more comparable to the Forester than the Impreza.

[@MH-lk8md]

I REALLY hate the look of awkward plastic cladding. It looks awful.

[@DK-ue5ks]

I'm waiting patiently for an EV impreza. If we ever get one.

[@wildbill6366]

I could sum up this review with a huge MEH.,. This is the kind of vehicle you bring out when you mail in your design and engineer work. The competition will eat this turd for lunch.

[@garystar1592]

GREAT REVIEW, HOW DOES IT COMPARE TO THE ID4 (Volkswagen)?

[@markplott4820]

worse than the iD4 , but still a COMPLIANCE car.

[@dgw4049]

Wait... did Subaru give it a 15mm lift? Why even go through the effort?

[@paulholterhaus7084]

To claim higher..........Fools many.......but not You and I...............Paul

[@brianmcgowan4280]

What’s with this focus on off roading. To divert attention from on road shortcomings!

[@markplott4820]

soltera is NOT an off road vehicle.

[@bob39540]

What about the 19 inches of water fording clearance?

[@markplott4820]

Cybertruck can ford 4 feet of water.

[@bob39540]

@@markplott4820 I'll have my 19.7 inches of fording this August. When will this concept be real?

[@markplott4820]

@@bob39540 - 2023.

[@wj9494]

I like this car, except for 100KW charging, really? There is already nothing to do at most DC charging stations, lets just sit there longer.

[@Parker53151]

iIs there and STI version with a huge (but useless) wing on the trunk??

[@paulhnielsen2708]

It puzzles me that people kan say that this car are ugly, and the same people are fawning over tesla cybertruck

[@ikghazali]

Toyota/Subaru looked at BMW and their vomit-inducing electric designs then looks at Mercedes with their lackluster electric drive train, and said hold my beer. These twins are an insult to motoring.

[@Dark_Vader888]

The ground clearance and some decent AT tires makes this a compelling choice over those fat wagon EV's from Hyundai and KIA with 4" of clearance. This will do well for so e people in snow belts and those who need some basic true offroad ability.

[@markplott4820]

Tesla model Y is better w/ 4" lifts , off road suspension and off road Tires. see - i1tesla model y off road.

[@richtower9169]

VW iD4 ?????

[@chrisperrywv]

I like the idea of car companies sharing tech. Should help with economies of scale

[@markplott4820]

nope, they are only sharing OUTDATED compliance car Technology,

[@kevinn1158]

VW ID4 AWD is cheaper, comes with 100hp more, a longer range, faster charging and 3 years free charging. And why buy this? Or go buy a Q4. Model Y is a lot more money. It sin't even close to being competitive.

[@TheJosesantiago123]

Go visit both of these dealers repair shops and it will change your mind. Yes the Korean cars look amazing and have more range, bells and whistles but I rather spend extra time at the charging station than spend days at the repair shop.

[@markplott4820]

TESLA model Y is the BEST compact SUV you can buy . the AUSTIN made model Y is Superior, underbody is made in just 3 parts, using Structural battery, 4680 cell and Gigacastings. no one else on EARTH makes underbody in just 3 parts.

[@Jferrari427]

Most people don’t realize that once everyone goes electric, what do you think is going to happen to the cost of electricity? It’s going Up and Up only. My real point is that a new 20K economy car that gets 35mpg is still more cost effective than a 50K hybrid. Most people don’t keep their cars long enough to reach the eventual fuel savings by buying an electric car.

[@IAmSoMuchBetterThanYou]

Scooby. Get your nicknames right. Not ‘subie’

[@ryanfrisby7389]

Wow

[@syxepop]

It was great that our reviewer did tell right up the bat the differences between the Solterra and the bZ4x, but they're still NOT ENOUGH to really differentiate between them. Worse, the use of a smaller infotainment screen on the lower level, which you can have standard on any bZ4x, even the FWD ones. Another deceiving issue is the lack of extra ground clearance (0.2" / 5mm is not enough) considering how Subaru has been selling all their crossovers from Crosstrek to Ascent on their "slightly better off road capability". Even the FWD bZ4x has the same 8.3" / 211mm of the AWD versions. The regular Forester, Outback and Ascent have 8.7" / 221mm, so the Toyota (even the FWD's) went to the Subaru's league. The ONLY issue that may sway someone into buying a Solterra is the INCENTIVE AVAILABILITY if the customer can benefit from those. Toyota will only have U$3750 in US Federal Credits at the start of the bZ4x delivery and will even fall into 0 in future months, while the Solterra will retain their U$7500 for at least a year, much likely much more. This credit will more than pay for the price difference between the FWD bZ4x and the AWD-only Solterra (counting that the dealer may not be "hunting wabbits"). Another problem on Subaru's side is that while the bZ4x is EXACTLY what people expected from a Toyota this Solterra is BELOW what people expect from a Subaru, particularly the way their management have tried to sell the brand as "more upscale than mainstream", which this Solterra is NOT. Even the bZ4x, compared to a similarly sized Rav4, needs ~ +30hp from their electric motor to just match the base Rav4 performance (battery pack is the culprit, as it + ~ 800lb. over an ICE equivalent) the AWD bZ4X and all the Solterras need + 5-10hp from their electric motorS to compensate for the + 200lb. of the AWD system. Before Toyota keeps making another JV car or truck look of how Hyundai and Kia try to differentiate themselves, even using most of the same components (they do a better job, IMHO). PS: Figure that this is a pure BS review done from Manufacturer-provided roads; I'd ♥to see this reviewer climb THAT HILL on 5:52 rather than what he'd shown... 😞😞😞 (wait until Sarah N Tuned or TFL get their hands on one)

[@Airsep]

Ngeeek, new car but outdated battery technology?

[@paulholterhaus7084]

Won't buy anything having a laptop bolted to the dash.......And that center console is WAAY too big..........The dash is incredibly clumsy looking.............GM's soon to come 4 offerings look FAAR more refined.........The dash/screen actually fit together......Paul

[@TalismanPHX]

SLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOWWWW charging. It's 2022, for God's sake 🙄

[@EvolutionIX219]

Back in my day charging my transportation involved feeding the horses. They even require sleep, if you want to complain about slow charge times. Get out of here

[@sonicliberation]

Ok, but too much coin.

[@4uanC]

Soltera means Single Lady in Spanish 😆

[@moizahadsaggu5462]

One of the worst interiors I have seen

[@stevebeard7667]

Man you can buy a real car for that money.

[@CatTerrist]

A 20 year old Forester will beat that shitbox offroad. How shit is that

[@nicotri9722]

ONCE AGAIN - glossy, piano black plastic, no buttons - just 99% capacitive touch buttons. WHY?

[@mpprof9769]

"off-road".... lol

[@allhemp]

Здарова. Хороший аппарат 😀👍🏻Subaru

[@arafat464]

Can't consider an electric car without a frunk. When other electric cars offer it, not having it makes you look not as good.

[@K-SD-DAD]

No EV can challenge both the Ioniq5 and EV6.

[@markplott4820]

TESLA model Y can. it also OUTSELLS them too.

[@mstfici2685]

Give me 1 reason why you should buy this instead of Ionic 5. Go ahead

[@carholic-sz3qv]

No one has really tested this car entirely no need to conclude so quickly lol…

[@Wasssup3232]

Ground clearance, standard AWD and a Lower Price (for awd). People need to quit gate keeping electric vehicles and acting like they are Jesus among men with their opinions, people love Subarus and maybe they have been waiting for an EV offering and don’t need massive range or super fast charging. I personally have an Ariya on order, but I sure hope all the new EVs hitting the market get more people into them and makes people with this dumb idea that you have to “buy the best” for whatever contrived reason you have in mind slowly fade away into the background so we can quit listening to elitist bs. Whoever gets this, the BZ4X, leaf, bolt, mini electric, etc all enjoy them and love how they handle and drive

[@mstfici2685]

@@Wasssup3232 you have a point. But "range" and "fast charging" are two crucial factors for EVs. It's no longer the taste of the consumer, but the practicality of the product.

[@RRLV434]

I agree there is absolutely no reason to buy one of these cars. They have nothing going for them, and the Koreans beat them in every way. The only reason I could see people buying these is if they are brand loyal to those companies. Honestly, for their first EVs, there not that bad, but hopefully they will refine there upcoming ones

[@Wasssup3232]

@@mstfici2685 But for who this car is for it wont be an issue, Subarus for the most part are 100% mall hoppers where charging will be done at home or when they go to Trader Joe’s or local co-ops who have level 2 chargers. For roadtripping sure I can see the point but when i had my model 3 i used the superchargers once and that was a 200 mile drive to go pick up our dog, and we still had such a long wait any car would have gotten fully charged while we waited for the breeder to make it to town. With good planning you would theoretically never actually need a DC fast charger, especially with them going up in cost per KW more and more (still cheaper than gas though) this would do especially well in urban environments with stop and go traffic or where all you do is commute to and from work with a trip to town or a friends/families once every few weeks. For myself I charged at work for free and home on my days off, and will do the same thing once my Ariya gets in, luckily as long as you aren’t in cali or china the chargers currently don’t have lines or wait times unless you get unlucky so even with a slower charging vehicle you wont really be slowing anyone down but yourself (and even then a few extra minutes here and there honestly isn’t terrible and the battery will hopefully hold up as well as Toyota claims)

[@canceltyranny1362]

Subaru, Toyota and Kia seem to be in a competition as to which car company can build the ugliest cars.

[@marianaramirez782]

Why it needs to be so ugly? It is so ugly that it feels like it is by-design. Why are they making a vehicle intentionally ugly?

[@b-radsadventures6846]

As the saying goes, it looks like it fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch. Aside fron the seats and painted body color, this is one of the least visually appealing vehicles I've seen in my lfe.

[@francomonno3256]

when you find out it takes 5000lbs of material to make one battery cell you realize how bad this is for the environment.

[@Atomic.101]

It actually Looks terrible.. 🙄😐

[@travisp224]

screw electric vehicles!

[@moizahadsaggu5462]

One of the worst interiors I have seen