2023 Toyota Tundra TRD Pro vs GMC Sierra AT4X AEV - Mud, Rocks & Water will Decide Which is Better!

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@TruckKing
@TruckKing Жыл бұрын
Don't miss our series exploring Ghost Towns in a GMC Canyon AT4X here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWLamo2tpsp5eLssi=g-zmrhsV72qsjeLk
@cnoyes72
@cnoyes72 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure I'd take any new full sized truck off-road nowadays, they are just too expensive.
@arcsolomon6360
@arcsolomon6360 Жыл бұрын
most idiot buy these these trucks just to boost their testosterone level
@nicholassmith7048
@nicholassmith7048 Жыл бұрын
And big
@michaelharrisson1683
@michaelharrisson1683 Жыл бұрын
Pickups are meant for work not off roading like SUVs are meant for... I like how the companies keep trying to bend the dynamics of the structure.
@googleaccount2637
@googleaccount2637 Жыл бұрын
All the trucks I've owned have to work off-road.
@reilym979
@reilym979 Жыл бұрын
​@googleaccount2637 that's the only it must capable of hauling and off road
@toddmcgee5982
@toddmcgee5982 Жыл бұрын
I just can’t justify a full size truck for any price with less than 1,200 lbs of payload, not to mention less than 9k towing for $90k USD.
@Nikephorus
@Nikephorus Жыл бұрын
They are all about going to the mall to buy a new purse that you can put into the tiny bed. Expensive and useless.
@mak450
@mak450 Жыл бұрын
I think it might actually not be that bad of a price. If you start with a ZR2 which is about the same price as a TRD Pro and then upfit it, you'll lose about the same amount of capability and gain the same eye-popping final price. And that's probably being generous, since you can add alot of the accessories to the ZR2 that come standard on the AT4X. but there's no simple way to make the interior as nice as in the GMC for either the ZR2 or Toyota. The real problem is all these trucks are too expensive before you even begin adding options, and really neither GM nor Toyota allow you to add the special hardware to the cheaper trucks more people can afford...though again those are also too expensive.
@toddmcgee5982
@toddmcgee5982 Жыл бұрын
To me, the quality and economics of the midsize offering and the capabilities of the 3/4 ton trucks make the full-size segment very questionable, at least in their off-road forms. Most Colorados, Rangers, Tacomas (2024) and the Rivian R1T will offer better off-road capabilities, economics, and payload than these. If you need more towing or payload, the 3/4 tons are not much more expensive (especially with the gas engine options) and offer significantly more capability. That’s probably why the truck in my driveway is not one of these. But they do probably look cool at the Whole Foods parking lot.
@mak450
@mak450 Жыл бұрын
I don't think I've ever seen a vehicle that will more reliably be spotted in a Whole Foods parking lot than the Rivian...but if you say so... That aside it's false that *_most_* mid sizers offer better off road capabilities. They'll definitely fit more places, but that's about it. Most don't have the ground clearance, angles, or protection that these do and that's a big deal. The ones that do, like a Canyon AT4X or TRD pro Tacoma, have even less towing and payload. And no one is shopping these if they need 3/4 ton levels of payload and towing...you might as well be suggesting a 10 passenger van to those people. but that's all it really is, you're just not in the target market for either of these two trucks. They're definitely niche vehicles, and I don't think this is where most truck buyers should be looking to spend their money...but mid sizers and 3/4 tons aren't a satisfactory alternative here by my estimation.
@JLawL
@JLawL Жыл бұрын
While I’m getting a back massage in a self driving truck going down the road towing it’s own 9000 lb payload you enjoy that Toyota. My last tundra blew up at 53285 miles. Total engine failure with all maintenance done at Toyota. Never again.
@tahyingyang4072
@tahyingyang4072 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love that you compared basically EVERYTHING some videos I’ve seen have been more bias towards one or the other. This really put perspective in my mind about everything.
@TruckKing
@TruckKing Жыл бұрын
CORRECTION: We said the fuel tank skid plate on the Tundra is plastic, but that's an oversimplification and doesn't do it justice. It's actually called Xply Armor, a unidirectional long glass fibre reinforced Nylon. Glass fibre tape is layered with alternating directions and bonded by nylon to make this skid plate.
@chrisbean4610
@chrisbean4610 Жыл бұрын
Fancy plastic
@jaimeavakarianvillamonte744
@jaimeavakarianvillamonte744 8 ай бұрын
Sounds like plastic
@stevieray1828
@stevieray1828 8 ай бұрын
@@jaimeavakarianvillamonte744 military grade plastic
@HNLN-23
@HNLN-23 7 ай бұрын
AEV Boron steel for the win!
@LucasLeCompteMusic
@LucasLeCompteMusic Жыл бұрын
No tow hooks on a truck in 2023 is insane. They should come on all trucks in 2023.
@wjoseph-rx9mj
@wjoseph-rx9mj Жыл бұрын
You still talking about that? How is that new to you?
@mikek5298
@mikek5298 Жыл бұрын
What percentage of owners ACTUALLY use them?
@wjoseph-rx9mj
@wjoseph-rx9mj Жыл бұрын
@@mikek5298 I would not take my $80k truck to any place like this
@LayzeeGiant
@LayzeeGiant Жыл бұрын
@@mikek5298I’ve said the same thing. I’ve driven trucks for 35 years and maybe used them twice. But just like the guys who sink 100k into a Jeep, it’s all to look good in the Cheesecake Factory parking lot.
@hochhaul
@hochhaul 10 ай бұрын
@@mikek5298 stop making excuses for toyota, it was pathetic to remove them on the new truck
@carvdecarv
@carvdecarv Жыл бұрын
As for pricing, the comparable GMC to the TRD Pro would've been the standard AT4. The standard AT4 doesn't have front lockers, massaging seats, high approach bumpers, etc. which the TRD Pro doesn't have.
@EGGINFOOLS
@EGGINFOOLS Жыл бұрын
Agree and since they didn't utilize all the offroad goodies the GMC had I don't think saying it was only a hair better is fair.
@G-Rated
@G-Rated Жыл бұрын
@@EGGINFOOLSexactly, they’ll never give GMC their credit. If Ford or RAM was offering all of this they’d be saying how it’s clearly the better truck.
@G-Rated
@G-Rated Жыл бұрын
Also AT4X was definitely not needed for this comparison.
@JC71444
@JC71444 Жыл бұрын
@@G-Rated Price, power, payload, and towing… Toyota is just better in the main category’s. GMC is best in lifter failures though
@VDawg-cr1gb
@VDawg-cr1gb Жыл бұрын
@@JC71444 not a fan of the cylinder deactivation either. Just found out there are little tuning devices that get rid of that. Solves the lifter issues
@8ball_998
@8ball_998 Жыл бұрын
Neither, I went with a 1500 ZR2, Front and rear lockers, all the same camera views same shocks as the AT4X and 1500lb cargo capacity at 73k US. I like Toyota and was excited to see the new Tundra. I think they dropped the ball on a lot of it. Drop the tailgate and try to climb in the bed. You can't even step on the bumper with the gate down. No tow hooks in the front of a truck?? Cheap flimsy plastic all over the exterior. With how long they took to redesign the Tundra, I expected better. Coming from someone who has owned 5 Toyota's including the previous gen 5.7L Tundra.
@michaelpanacheese604
@michaelpanacheese604 Жыл бұрын
They really did drop the ball. Even custom trailboss looks better then the tundra pro fully loaded.
@KTree470
@KTree470 Жыл бұрын
Lack of front tow hooks is a firing offense for somebody over there.
@Bornintheseat
@Bornintheseat Жыл бұрын
You nailed it.
@ryankunkel8247
@ryankunkel8247 Жыл бұрын
@@KTree470 totally, especially when the incoming Tacoma has them.
@Andrew-ms8md
@Andrew-ms8md Жыл бұрын
Just the not beeping every 5 seconds is enough for me to take the GMC
@kurtfirestone2761
@kurtfirestone2761 Жыл бұрын
The under side view is REALLY nice. Should show that on all trucks and suv
@brentworls8509
@brentworls8509 Жыл бұрын
Those prices make used trucks the best buy, regardless of brand.
@MrMom950
@MrMom950 7 күн бұрын
the comment about the Jeeps 20 years ago is sooooo on point! Owned one in 1997/98 and absolutely loved that feeling... jarring on the asphalt during the morning commutes was fun for me because it kind of made you feel like you were off roading all the time... My dad, at the time... absolutely HATED that! lol... so it was one of those things where you had to love the way it drove on the road... because it was NOT smooth nor comfortable lol! Also driving that thing too and from San Diego for 5 hours at a time to visit home... had to use earplugs... but again... I loved that at the time... early 20's cruising San Diego with the top down and off roading on the weekends... was just absolute bliss!
@atvseatexchange2176
@atvseatexchange2176 Жыл бұрын
Impossible to justify these prices new but I watch to see what I might be interested in when they're used, ten years from now. On a 500 mile loop this weekend, I got 18.6 mpg with my 10 year old GMC 4wd with an 8 foot bed. 100 dollars for fuel and no payments!
@T_81535
@T_81535 Жыл бұрын
I average 13.5mpg with both my tundras, 2008 and 2022, pulling a 16 ft utility trailer with two commercial mowers on it. About a 5000lb load mostly on back roads. The 08 has nearly 300k miles on it. 👍
@MinnerQ
@MinnerQ Жыл бұрын
When the payments are over, your truck runs and does the work it needs to do, that’s when you win. Enjoy it!
@RockyMountainPeterbilts
@RockyMountainPeterbilts Жыл бұрын
I have a 6.2L with an 8 speed in a 2017 GMC All-Terrain 1500. I ran from Colorado to Northern Montana and back (1700 miles) and my average was 24.2 mpg. No Toyota Tundra will do that! Toyota also uses 2 "c" channels welded together for their frame. That is ancient technology, FORD, GM, DODGE all went away from that in the 80's and went to Hydro-Forming. A much better way to make frames! Sheet metal on the Tundra is also MUCH thinner. Open the hoods, grab the hood with each hand and try to twist them. You will see a huge difference! (You can almost 45 degree a Toyota hood but the GMC/Chevy/Ford/Dodge hoods any take a small deflection. Toyota makes a good small truck in the Tacoma, but, the Tundra just isn't there quality wise. This test should have been with the AT4 vs. the Tundra.
@brettanderson5444
@brettanderson5444 Жыл бұрын
The tundra literally is rated 24 mpg highway 😂
@RockyMountainPeterbilts
@RockyMountainPeterbilts Жыл бұрын
Yeah. And nobody has ever gotten that. Tacomas are a good truck. Tundras are a total fraud. Total garbage truck. Ancient technology on the frame and paper thin metal. There’s a reason they put TRD on the side!
@freedomisntfree_44
@freedomisntfree_44 Жыл бұрын
A tundra would bash through just the same and do it many more times with many more miles
@davidleeosbourne2727
@davidleeosbourne2727 Жыл бұрын
​@brettanderson5444, it's rated that, but trust me it doesn't
@freedomisntfree_44
@freedomisntfree_44 Жыл бұрын
@@davidleeosbourne2727 for people who can’t drive a turbocharged engine yes.
@pabo8080
@pabo8080 Жыл бұрын
weird to have an offroad truck with no tow hooks or front locker. I'd have to go with the GMC if I was off roading for those 2 reasons alone. Both are too big for real off roading I think though.
@electrikoptik
@electrikoptik Жыл бұрын
Let's be honest here. Off-roaders with front lockers are still rare. Only a handful of them are available in certain trims of certain models.
@KErtter1
@KErtter1 Жыл бұрын
They are being honest. Toyota doesn’t offer a front locker… period.
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP Жыл бұрын
@@KErtter1 no big deal in my mind. I think Raptor even went back to front open diff. Fact is hardly anyone is actually taking their new full size pickup to places that would require a front locker.
@PonyFoot123
@PonyFoot123 Жыл бұрын
Turn radius for the tundra is doo doo
@T_81535
@T_81535 Жыл бұрын
The TRD pro is the most off road ready truck Toyota offers. It's not supposed to be a dedicated offroad truck. It's purpose is to offer offroad capability to a truck that can still tow almost 12000 lbs comfortably across the country without any issues or drama and then be a grocery getter and errand runner when you get back home. Something that the dedicated Ford, Chevy, and fiat off-roaders can't do. The tundra is an all in one truck. Work, play, vacation, and daily driver and still worth something after 300k miles. Ford Chevy and fiat has no resale value, especially fiat, and won't even make it 300k miles.
@Ernest_Burns
@Ernest_Burns Жыл бұрын
Heavy duty material/hardware and interior comfort is where some of that added cost comes into play, and the AT4x wasn't used to it's fullest potential. Aside from that they both can get the job done.
@chrish1850
@chrish1850 Жыл бұрын
Im a Toyota fan and drive a last generation Tundra. The new TRD PRO missed it on alot of things for me in the redesign unfortunately. Those sway bars on the TRD PRO are going to get bent or broken if you do any serious offroading. The huge gap up front between the bumper and the first skid plate? Whats going on there.. Now the interior/engine/new suspension I do love. This engine (V35A-FTS) isnt new people. Its been in a lexus since 2017... so it has definitely been tested.
@arcsolomon6360
@arcsolomon6360 Жыл бұрын
toyota should hire you
@chrish1850
@chrish1850 Жыл бұрын
@@arcsolomon6360 I'd like to think I would bring some great ideas to the table.
@T_81535
@T_81535 Жыл бұрын
​@@chrish1850wed all like to think that
@chrish1850
@chrish1850 Жыл бұрын
@@T_81535 I wonder if they ever allow "regular Joe's" to drive and look over the trucks to get feedback.
@bobbyb.1743
@bobbyb.1743 10 ай бұрын
@chris1850, yes sir, have that engine in my ‘20 LS F-Sport and I love it. Drove a ‘22 Tundra w/ it and was not particularly impressed, performance-wise. I’m sure the hybrid version would be completely different…
@AntonioClaudioMichael
@AntonioClaudioMichael 17 күн бұрын
Been awhile good to see the videos still coming
@etiennetremblay8133
@etiennetremblay8133 Жыл бұрын
Steel bumper’s & skid plates, tow hook, etc you probably reduce payload by 500-600 lbs just with that. Adding long travel suspension and you are around 1000lbs
@johnypearsonne
@johnypearsonne 8 ай бұрын
Love this video! I like how you compared things in order on both trucks.. could not leave that video till it ended..
@TruckKing
@TruckKing 8 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@cm07ca
@cm07ca Жыл бұрын
Simple fact, GM as a V8 I declare a winner 😅 even though my heart is the Toyota tundra 💁🏻‍♂️
@dimmacommunication
@dimmacommunication 8 ай бұрын
The turbo V6 Tundra drinks the same as the old V8 😅 just keep the V8 damn 😰
@CrazyGreek80
@CrazyGreek80 Жыл бұрын
I picked up a 2021 Warlock with 19k miles for $34k with a push button start 4wd and the tried and true 5.7 heni put a 4" BDS lift kit with the rear fox shock and upgraded to the fox coil overs up front put 35 12.5x15 method wheels with the Borla Attac exhaust and I couldn't be happier the interior is nice not over the tep tech got the 8.4 touch screen with Nav and I couldn't be happier! I'm more into the bang for your buck trucks and cars.
@hissingoose
@hissingoose Жыл бұрын
Ah, the tundra has cameras that’ll show you things you can’t go over, whereas the GM doesn’t, but will go over the things.
@chadsteele1
@chadsteele1 Жыл бұрын
The Gmc is just a better looking rig. The Toyota looks good from the side, the front is a major design fail.
@wjoseph-rx9mj
@wjoseph-rx9mj Жыл бұрын
How is that GMC look better, are you blind?
@marcelo403polo2
@marcelo403polo2 Жыл бұрын
@@wjoseph-rx9mj you are obviously
@wayneh1562
@wayneh1562 Жыл бұрын
i think the tundra looks better , the gmc has an awkward front end, the lights
@LayzeeGiant
@LayzeeGiant Жыл бұрын
The GMC looks better then the Silverado, but that’s not saying much. All GM trucks are ugly.
@jetman1979
@jetman1979 Жыл бұрын
Ah the price tag you would have to bring that up 😡
@curtshelp6170
@curtshelp6170 Жыл бұрын
My Colorado has a greater payload than these two trucks. How does Toyota not put tow hooks on an off road package? The Toyota looks pretty good except for the flush grill. I think having the grill itself set back an inch or two behind the frame of the grill would have looked much better.
@arcsolomon6360
@arcsolomon6360 Жыл бұрын
toyota should hire you
@RimRig_AZ
@RimRig_AZ Жыл бұрын
I agree the payload is weak. My Gladiator has 1500# of payload and much more capable off road half the price.
@chriskolaska897
@chriskolaska897 Жыл бұрын
Damn dude your right holy shit lol. I've got a 16 colorado and yea looked it up. 1,500 lbs of payload.
@mottom2657
@mottom2657 Жыл бұрын
@@arcsolomon6360 I would agree with you, but the main comment has a point. The Sequoia has the same face, the grilles look much better.
@Johnny_Bee
@Johnny_Bee Жыл бұрын
Tundra TRD PROs in Houston are selling for $87000 with dealer markups, ridiculous.
@rj12345rj
@rj12345rj Жыл бұрын
I briefly shopped them in Houston and quickly stopped once I saw the markups. Crazy.
@LayzeeGiant
@LayzeeGiant Жыл бұрын
There’s a used TRDPro in Tulsa for 90k. Crazy.
@brandonjacksoon
@brandonjacksoon Жыл бұрын
As always very interesting comparison! Thanks for cool content Truck King!
@terrencejones9817
@terrencejones9817 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison test. Other channels can learn from your efforts. We'll done.
@PR-do5qi
@PR-do5qi Жыл бұрын
Great review gentalman! I literally have been trying to decide between these two trucks for a month. I choice and bought the the Tundra TRD PRO last week for two reasons. Toyota's reliability and strong resale value and second the GMC had so many fit and finish issues that there was no way I was spending the extra 20k. Also the TRD PROs are hard to find (most pre sold) and the GMC dealers in my area can not give the AEV away even at invoice in my area.
@vegetar7886
@vegetar7886 Жыл бұрын
Great choice sir Great choice
@hochhaul
@hochhaul 10 ай бұрын
The only reliable part of the 2022+ Tundra is their ability to have crank bearing failures.
@patryan3866
@patryan3866 Ай бұрын
You picked the 3rd gen Tundra for reliability? What???
@joemcgee2918
@joemcgee2918 Жыл бұрын
Funny enough I currently own an old 08 Tundra, shes been great, but recently gave me few small problems, my 2023 TRD PRO will be here next month.
@kross1261
@kross1261 Жыл бұрын
Nice, had an 07 now 2020. Planned on keeping it for a long time but might be giving it to my daughter for her first vehicle. Quick question, I have not sat in a new Tundra how does it compare to the model/last generation like you currently have? I’m a bit concerned being 6’6”. I like the room on the new gmc/Chevy trucks but long term reliability is a big concern when looking at those trucks.
@zcookie49
@zcookie49 Жыл бұрын
Traded in my 15 Tundra Platinum on a 22 TRDPro with 7k miles. I’ve been loving it. My last tundra was the best. 6 years with no issues and only oil changes, set of brakes and tires, 1 battery… love the reliability !
@JoshBryan
@JoshBryan Жыл бұрын
Still driving my 06 double cab. Had a 00 tundra before.
@grootsgracemission
@grootsgracemission Жыл бұрын
Is the AEV option even available in Canada, and how much does it add to the already ridiculous price? I’m impressed with your no bs review.
@Mr.C-Mister
@Mr.C-Mister Жыл бұрын
Except for not using the GMC to its full potential with both lockers.
@benjamindavison7904
@benjamindavison7904 Жыл бұрын
it is and it adds 7-8 grand
@AntonioClaudioMichael
@AntonioClaudioMichael 17 күн бұрын
Offroad imaging under the truck is a cool feature on the toyota 15:25
@keithjohnson3993
@keithjohnson3993 Жыл бұрын
Absurd to me that Toyota or any brand would put painted surfaces in the most vulnerable areas for getting scraped on their serious offroader.
@thelosteddies
@thelosteddies Жыл бұрын
That's because they know most of them will be mall crawlers
@nolebucnaround8350
@nolebucnaround8350 Жыл бұрын
Powered coated if you’re referring g to the red sway bars.
@BG-vq9fd
@BG-vq9fd Жыл бұрын
GMC yes, I have a 2020 AT4 6.2 L. I really enjoy driving it. No AEV needed.
@JimmyDickens1
@JimmyDickens1 11 ай бұрын
I would buy the GMC …. Because I Did buy one! Love it! Would buy it again if given a re-do!
@dethtour
@dethtour 10 ай бұрын
That's what I said until I bought my tundra. My wife drives a 2022 Denali and I ended up buying a 2024 sr5 tundra. After we had it for a month she fell in love with my truck and I ended up getting her a 2024 limited last week. I'm still buying a 2500 later this year. I need another truck for the farm. My tundra is my daily for work and my wife has her for her side job. So he had afford to drive something nicer. If my wife would let me get a 6.2 I would love to get one just rwd so I can drop it and build a race truck. A V8 will always sound better. I miss my 5.7 😔
@MrJeffyb69
@MrJeffyb69 Жыл бұрын
These 2 are not direct competitors! The ZR2 or AT4 (non X) is the direct competitor to the Toyota. The extra $20k is an accumulation of better interior, better bumpers, front lockers, more under body protection and better wheels and tires. The only thing the regular AT4 (nonX) is missing vs the TRD is the rear locker, but the G80 would have done just fine in this comparo and its priced close to the same :-)
@nabatron21
@nabatron21 Жыл бұрын
At4 doesn’t have as good of suspension compared to the Trd pro
@robqwertyuipp8750
@robqwertyuipp8750 Жыл бұрын
I think the Chevy Comparable would be the trail boss to the AT4
@kellycampbell7801
@kellycampbell7801 Жыл бұрын
I think the style on the Toyota looks really good. They did a good job on it.
@user-jl3fo9cf8p
@user-jl3fo9cf8p Жыл бұрын
Why not compare to the ZR2? Seems like the closer comparison
@antbymcnair4297
@antbymcnair4297 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison. First time watcher, but this seems like a cool channel. Time to look at some of your other videos!
@louisalmeida4894
@louisalmeida4894 8 ай бұрын
It’s not even close! Yota has more power, more payload, way more towing, 20k cheaper, better screen, better on road manners, did just fine off-road. Not even close. Resale is better also.
@johnypearsonne
@johnypearsonne 8 ай бұрын
Agreed 👍
@nabatron21
@nabatron21 Жыл бұрын
Another downside is it’s very difficult to get both. Stock really low in Canada! The GMC at4x you also can get the diesel jn 24’ model year
@AntonioClaudioMichael
@AntonioClaudioMichael 17 күн бұрын
The Gmc entire drive train isnt sealed up like you clamr there is a cap in them skids that is exsposing the cats and the Transmission pan 7:00 @TruckKing
@liamrobinson2084
@liamrobinson2084 Жыл бұрын
Great video, Both good trucks, but not at these prices. These things are depreciating assets. Great job digging into that price TK!
@sexyfishyphish
@sexyfishyphish Жыл бұрын
My trd pro went up 10k in value when I drove it off the lot
@sexyfishyphish
@sexyfishyphish Жыл бұрын
@lukerk49 maybe. A lot of people don't like turbos and the next gen has them
@michaelridling5859
@michaelridling5859 Жыл бұрын
I love the under chassis view. Will you do the Titan Pro 4x vs tremor vs rebel vs ATX. Compare OEM skid plates.
@briandoty438
@briandoty438 Жыл бұрын
Drop the AEV package and it's closer. Silverado ZR2 is my choice over the 3. 😁 However, it's all personal preference at this point. As much of a GM homer as I am, all are good these days and all have their own, manufacturer specific issues.... I WILL say, the Tundra has 2 major, pickup truck specific, flaws in my opinion: 1) limited bed access with the tailgate down and 2) no front recovery hooks...
@T_81535
@T_81535 Жыл бұрын
America was built by trucks that didn't have sissy steps or "fatty" steps to get in the back of the bed. I've been using pickup trucks for 25 years and haven't needed tow hooks yet. If you need tow hooks on a $70k truck you don't have too much sense I think.
@briandoty438
@briandoty438 Жыл бұрын
@@T_81535 I'm not talking about sissy or pullout steps. When you drop the tailgate on ANY pick-up truck, sans the Tundra, you still have bumper pads in the corners you can step on. The Tundra simply has no bumper once the tailgate drops. You tow hooks comment is simply ignorant. MANY people are taking $70k+ trucks off road. And, guess what? They get stuck from time to time....
@Hrothgar13
@Hrothgar13 Жыл бұрын
So add the pull down step and put the aftermarket tow hooks on and still have enough money left over to buy a passenger vehicle compared to the overpriced GMC. Having owned both, I won't own another Garage Mechanics Companion again.
@user-jl3fo9cf8p
@user-jl3fo9cf8p Жыл бұрын
@@Hrothgar13or buy the ZR2 for 10k less than the TRD Pro. Nobody really knows about this drivetrain’s reliability vs the competition, other than there is more to go wrong with it. 6.2 has lifters, TRD has turbos and hybrid battery that has to be replaced. Cost of ownership is probably going to the NA engine in the long run.
@xr3drum7x58
@xr3drum7x58 Жыл бұрын
Yhe GMC is the best offroad/luxury ride combo. I own one myself it doesn't get better, regardless of the price tag its the best on the market. Granted I will never take my truck off road but it has all the curb appeal and rides like a dream.
@mntdronesolutions
@mntdronesolutions Жыл бұрын
Great non bias content! You helped me to decide to buy my 22 silveradoZR2 Great content from you and your dad! Enjoy every minute you have together! Mine is gone and I always wish I had more time w/him. He would be proud of my Chevy purchase! He always owned GMC products! I am EXTREMLEY pleased with my 22 Silverado ZR2! OUTSTANDING TRUCK! IMO GM/Chevy crushed the Toyota in the full-size class!!! KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK FELLAS!!!
@mikeligit
@mikeligit 9 ай бұрын
you didnt factor reliability into your choice
@mntdronesolutions
@mntdronesolutions 9 ай бұрын
@@mikeligit Mine is like a rock! Praise GOD no issues! Almost 17k miles so far
@marksullivan3424
@marksullivan3424 4 ай бұрын
@@mntdronesolutionsSame here. 2022 GMC Sierra Denali 30k miles zero issues love the truck but regret not getting an AT4
@tabishvanti2526
@tabishvanti2526 Жыл бұрын
THIS IS MY OPINION. An SUV or pickup truck should not have turbochargers in them. It just increases the maintenance cost and decreases the longevity. Wheter its a Toyota or any other brand. Nothing beats a full size naturally aspirated engine.
@mikebeaulieu9485
@mikebeaulieu9485 Жыл бұрын
Both are very nice trucks, it wouldn't cost $20k to install tow hooks and aggressive tires on the Tundra, it seems to me that the Tundra was riding better on the rough road, probably as mentioned because of the coil springs. Also the Tundra has better payload and towing capacity, that comes in handy when towing a camper trailer.
@ia6980
@ia6980 11 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!! You barely find any videos of gmc sierra to be tested in snow, mud, rocks. Next if you could test sierra in snow ❄️ I would greatly appreciate thank you
@mbjemmott5034
@mbjemmott5034 Жыл бұрын
What you failed to mention, as far as the drive ability on the roof to rain the tires make a difference in the grip, the reliability of the truck, the horsepower in the overall performance. The Toyota would do just as well if it had better tires, but I would go with the Toyota for proven reliability, dependability, and overall last ability in Toyota gets better gas mileage had more horsepower more torque for the money the Toyota would be my pick.
@oneviwatara9384
@oneviwatara9384 Жыл бұрын
GM also got helped by going after Toyota 😅
@rubenfranko6600
@rubenfranko6600 Жыл бұрын
I don’t trust GM
@jaimeavakarianvillamonte744
@jaimeavakarianvillamonte744 11 ай бұрын
​@@rubenfranko6600i had bad luck with Toyota and no problem with GMC
@Chris-ut6eq
@Chris-ut6eq Жыл бұрын
How was the bed size compare? They both have crap payloads. GMC wider? longer? heavier?
@LayzeeGiant
@LayzeeGiant Жыл бұрын
Rustier.
@WheresHerb
@WheresHerb Жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of the G80 locker.
@justinsalazar9070
@justinsalazar9070 2 ай бұрын
Got the Sequoia Trd pro it’s a beast!!!! Zero issues and the V6 outperforms the V8 hands down!
@mikesimmons9930
@mikesimmons9930 Жыл бұрын
Toyota styling looks a lot like the GMC but hands down I would take the Toyota even though I own a GMC Sierra 2500hd that has been flawless.
@bobbyb.1743
@bobbyb.1743 10 ай бұрын
I believe you ref your HD. That’s my favorite and I’m looking at easing into that Ultimate!
@mikesimmons9930
@mikesimmons9930 10 ай бұрын
@@bobbyb.1743 I have a 2018 with the 6.0L. It's been flawless. I have no complaints at all.
@mikemorton0
@mikemorton0 Жыл бұрын
The MT on the Goodyear Wrangler Tires stands for Maximum Traction not Mud Terrain
@jphunkpunk792
@jphunkpunk792 Жыл бұрын
Not that I could afford either truck. But I'd go with the Toyota, too. You could put a few mods and better tires on it. I love your guys' channel, waaay more than other channels on here!
@jetman1979
@jetman1979 Жыл бұрын
Toyota fix the beeping
@davidgodoy826
@davidgodoy826 Жыл бұрын
My 2007 Silverado Z71 that is paid for and doesn’t cost $85K can do everything these trucks can do with no problem 😊
@michaelboese6679
@michaelboese6679 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video loved every bit. Great under carriage video. Keep it up !!!
@bobvedder2451
@bobvedder2451 Жыл бұрын
Talking about jeep comfort = my first jeep - a CJ7 had 7 layer leaf springs, the i put 2000 pound coil overloads on each corner. You could beat the hell out of the suspension, but if you didn't have your seatbelt on and drove over a dime, you would be bounced out of your seat.
@ChrisParayno
@ChrisParayno Жыл бұрын
I don't understand why folks think they don't need to use 4 low when it would ultimately make it a more capable in certain terrain. I could care less about it "slightly slipping". Isn't the goal to ultimate just get out of a situation as efficiently and effectively as possible?
@arlinkramerjr
@arlinkramerjr 10 ай бұрын
Dude, I have driven 4X4 in my Job for 20+ years. The Off Road Motto is Always. "A Body in Motion, Stays in Motion" follow that Rule and you will be successful.
@teddonley9594
@teddonley9594 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see you finally use 4low on an offroad trail. And you said to keep it equal you didn't use the front locker on the GMC. That isn't equal that's limiting one truck to give the other a chance
@terryduncan31
@terryduncan31 Жыл бұрын
I don't want the hybrid option an any price simply because of the cost of maintaining or replacing the components.
@sexyfishyphish
@sexyfishyphish Жыл бұрын
​@terryduncan31 it's a Toyota hybrid those things are good for years with no issues
@robertyoung8289
@robertyoung8289 Жыл бұрын
It's a no brainer. GMC for the win!
@ssxz99
@ssxz99 4 ай бұрын
Nah
@cl3410
@cl3410 Жыл бұрын
You guys have to start driving the Sierra with the performance exhaust package. Adds a bit of additional horse power and torque plus makes it one of the best sounding factory trucks on the market.
@marcelo403polo2
@marcelo403polo2 Жыл бұрын
They hate GM stuff. it's so obvious. They are only dodge and ford people
@LayzeeGiant
@LayzeeGiant Жыл бұрын
That will drown out the lifter noise lol.
@chriswells3001
@chriswells3001 Жыл бұрын
I was actually looking at both of these trucks, but ended up going with the AT4X AEV. Here in Texas, the prices are way different. The TRD Pro cant be had for less than 90k and the GMC can be had (or at least when I bought mine) for about 7k under MSRP
@thebabadookdoot1138
@thebabadookdoot1138 Жыл бұрын
Great video, love the off-road comparison. Only thing is, you have to remember the Toyota Tundra Pro is all designed around fast desert running; not slow trail running. Thus why it did better in that very small section of "fast" running. Don't get me wrong, if and when the Tundra comes out in the Trail Hunter trim like a Tacoma, I would love to see it go against this GMC again. Both vehicles looked great going off road though.
@kingrabbit101
@kingrabbit101 9 ай бұрын
Need to retest these now in the winter and snow
@RonnN-gf8tm
@RonnN-gf8tm Жыл бұрын
Morning Truck King!!! Did your area get hit by smoke from the wildfires??
@googleaccount2637
@googleaccount2637 Жыл бұрын
Arson fires ?
@RonnN-gf8tm
@RonnN-gf8tm Жыл бұрын
@@googleaccount2637 thts what I'm hearing... but not entirely sure myself
@DaOzMan0608
@DaOzMan0608 Жыл бұрын
If you're not going to use the front locker on the GMC, the Crawl control shouldn't be used on the TRD. Even though ATRAC isn't a real locker but it simulates the characteristics of one. That would be fair.
@galaman12001
@galaman12001 Жыл бұрын
The GMC is clearly better, so I would take that, plus the TRD Pro would en up costing you close to the AT4x if you could find one, dealers are adding a huge markup at least in the US.
@MohammedJobori
@MohammedJobori 7 ай бұрын
I don't know if you watched the same video as i did , but the tundra clearly did better at off roading and it is cheaper....
@GotronFerret
@GotronFerret 5 ай бұрын
I just extensively test drove both and ended up going with the GMC, but with the Duramax. After discounts, they were within $1k of each other. GM had over 9k off, Toyota was at MSRP. The TRD Pro had slightly better road manners, bigger infotainment display, more power, larger fuel tank, and a pano roof. Material and build quality are much better, with little to no creaks or rattles. Negatives are plastic bumpers, useless cooled seats (major issue in the South), more cabin/wind noise, and whistling from the driver side mirror (multiple did this). The Sierra 1500 AT4X AEV had the excellent LZ0 3.0 Diesel which while slower, had better real-world fuel economy, with smoother and more useful daily drivable power delivery. Infotainment tech is much better, more features, options, etc. It was also quieter on the road, despite the MT tires. Cooled seats worked great. In fact, even the AC cooled better/faster. The interior looked much nicer and more upscale Negatives include the smaller display, smaller tank (but still great range thanks for the diesel), bit more creaking, and a bit pricier as built. And a standard size sunroof, if you care about that sort of thing. Overall, I just felt I was getting more truck for the money and more features/capability. But to be fair, I wouldn't fault selecting either truck. Both are pretty solid.
@PinnitMoto
@PinnitMoto Жыл бұрын
Finally, a comparison that is not terribly far from fair. I can’t stand when people try to compare either of these to a raptor or a TRX. This comparison is fairly the same. Yes, I’m aware the tundra isn’t naturally aspirated.
@JimmyMakingitwork
@JimmyMakingitwork 5 ай бұрын
They are both great trucks really, if you can afford a new truck and do much off roading, either one would be fun. I'm just not sure $90,000-100,000 trucks will see much hard off road action.
@zachklopman9046
@zachklopman9046 Жыл бұрын
Even though it’s turbocharged, I’d still trust Toyota’s engine refinement process more than GM’s, especially with the lifter issues the 6.2s have had and its need for premium fuel. Plus, turbocharged power is so much more pleasant for towing
@agentcarder
@agentcarder Жыл бұрын
Because people who buy these trucks are towing with them.
@freedomisntfree_44
@freedomisntfree_44 Жыл бұрын
Man once you’ve towed with that turbo you won’t go back. Love when gm folks try to talk reliability too because of said lifter failure 😂 some have blown before the first oil change and you can combine every video of new trucks from every manufacturer besides gm on KZbin and the videos of failures are alarming for gm.
@LayzeeGiant
@LayzeeGiant Жыл бұрын
@@freedomisntfree_44I was a GM guy my whole life. But never again. They haven’t made a decent truck in 15 years. Engines, trannys, rust, etc. all garbage.
@T_81535
@T_81535 Жыл бұрын
​@@agentcarderI tow with mine. About a 5000lb load every day.
@kieth1284
@kieth1284 8 сағат бұрын
Great comparison vid! I think the AEV upgrade might not be the best comparison. Just seems like the TRD vs AT4 would be more straight up.
@RealWorldCarReviews
@RealWorldCarReviews Жыл бұрын
Great comparison test! Both seem like absolutely awesome trucks. It would be hard to choose between the more modern (but complex for servicing costs etc) Toyota twin-turbo hybrid, and the old-school 'simple' 6.2 V8 of the GMC.
@michaelharrisson1683
@michaelharrisson1683 Жыл бұрын
It's simple... The GM
@RealWorldCarReviews
@RealWorldCarReviews Жыл бұрын
@@michaelharrisson1683 Personal preference
@joemcgee2918
@joemcgee2918 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelharrisson1683 The thing is the non hybrid TT is just slower than a 6.2, A hybrid tundra is gonna pull on the 6.2 all day. 583 lbs of torque and another 17 horse.....
@LayzeeGiant
@LayzeeGiant Жыл бұрын
@@joemcgee2918And no lifter issues.
@Mycameron2323
@Mycameron2323 Жыл бұрын
Lol Chevy has serious issues with all the v8 without modification.
@rduarte82
@rduarte82 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the great comparisons. My absolute favorite to watch…. Off-road comparisons.
@ARSSystems
@ARSSystems Жыл бұрын
GMC top truck all day, all way.
@LayzeeGiant
@LayzeeGiant Жыл бұрын
Fanboyism is why GM pumps out mediocre crap because they know you’ll buy it no matter what.
@Cyberriian1
@Cyberriian1 Жыл бұрын
​@reneeandchrisforever unfounded fodder. Just because you want what you say to be true, doesn't mean that it is. Get back with me when Toyota decides to make REAL TRUCKS.
@omarals6530
@omarals6530 Жыл бұрын
I will choose the GMC because the mechanic is not complicated and it sounds better
@Batolocor22
@Batolocor22 Жыл бұрын
Great video guys 👍
@Keymaster2022
@Keymaster2022 9 ай бұрын
I can appreciate how good both trucks look, too.
@chuckgrenci6404
@chuckgrenci6404 Жыл бұрын
While I agree the price difference was fairly substantial, I think it was a slight disservice to say the GMC was only a 'hair' better. Even saying slightly better would have conveyed the difference better than a 'hair' which implies almost identical.
@cg4294
@cg4294 Жыл бұрын
Plus a better comparison would have been ZR2. The gmc is more and the aev is more. Cost is pretty much identical to trd with ZR2, and the aev didn’t add any enhanced performance to this test.
@T_81535
@T_81535 Жыл бұрын
Well you saw the video right? Looked like very minute differences to me. At no point did I think "wow. that GMC is a far superior offroader do to the tow hooks or ever so slightly more aggressive tires. Also your definitely going to feel the torque difference on the low end in the tundra. No way I'd pay 20k more for a truck that is less powerful, less capable, less reliable, and has less resale value on top of it all.
@cg4294
@cg4294 Жыл бұрын
A couple things I think could have/should have been shown in video. 1) if comparing trd to gmc, spend more time on interior and features. I think the gmc is a much more luxurious and comfortable interior. 2) if just considering capability off-road, the ZR2 should have been the comparison. Pretty identical to pricing of trd, then you can debate merits of front/rear lockers vs low end torque and rear coil overs at same price. To me, this wasn’t exactly an apples/apples comparison when such a huge price discrepancy was the “deciding “ factor when the same truck at comparable price point can be had
@2URLex
@2URLex Жыл бұрын
Video seems biased towards Chevy. The Tundra has considerably less wheel spin in all instances. The missing front hooks is probably the only glaring issue but what’s a few dollars for some hooks considering the price of these trucks. Every one I know who has one of these newer Chevy truck had them in the shop for a few months without carrying issue. Must be that hair better thing.
@TimmThePourArtist
@TimmThePourArtist 26 күн бұрын
Thank you for this video. really helped me on how to use 4x4. I'm used to older type systems like my other truck, a 2000 Ford F350 diesel crewcab... I just bought a 2024 Toyota Tundra SR5. feel good about my purchase now. Thanks again
@TruckKing
@TruckKing 26 күн бұрын
Glad it helped
@scottyellis3442
@scottyellis3442 Жыл бұрын
I think the GMC is more of an off-road truck than the Tundra. And I wonder when all truck & car makers are gonna go with side cameras instead of mirrors for fuel economy. Wouldn't be surprising to me. And i think Toyota isn't what they once were, they're sales are based on their past reputation.
@nathanjames4242
@nathanjames4242 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately its not really possible to change to cameras completly since with mirrors you can change your head position and get a different perspective. I don't think safety rules will ever allow exclusion of side mirrors. Well, at least until all driving is done by AI and not by the driver at all . . . or until tech lets us just teleport from place to place in a blink of an eye.
@GMCGUY-
@GMCGUY- Жыл бұрын
I WISH YOU GUY WOULD DO OLD SCHOOL GMC SIERRA ChevySilverado like 1999-2006 Models and dodge and Ford the f150 and the Ram1500 the same years from them as well 1999-2006 model years. This would be a Awesome addition to your channel doing some old school off-roading in the best years for GM for the SIERRA1500 and Silverado1500 1999-2006 where the most reliable for this trucks I have own 2 of them and still have my 2nd one 2001 gmc Sierra 1500 ext cab 2 wheel drive 5.3 litter V8 Engine 285 Horsepower with a Flowmaster FX Cat back dual exhaust system. It sounds so good on this trucks. Mileage is 124,490 Original engine original tyranny. I have put thousands I mean thousands of dollars over the past 2 1/2 half years in my truck to bring it back to life. I spent alot of money on my rig but it's all worth it. These trucks last a very very very very long time Especially if you maintain them and take care of them. Especially with just just a little over a 120000 miles is really low. Mileage considering the truck is almost 24 years old. Is a friend of mine had one With 402000 miles on yes, and still running strong. Try to do a video on old school pick up trucks from the years I Mentioned your channel is truly amazing..
@Bmehhk
@Bmehhk Жыл бұрын
I have a 94 GM that i will be keeping alive.. less plastic Sh!t and for 90 grand i can either buy 30 more of them or basically make the greatest truck the world has known. modern economy trucks are just trash... 100 thousand dollars on a truck... people 1200 a month for 84 months, are you nuts?
@RussellFrench-f8r
@RussellFrench-f8r Жыл бұрын
I bought a Chevy ZR2. Get all the important things as on AT4X minus a massaging seat and then price isn’t as big of deal vs Toyota. I love my ZR2, will go almost anywhere!
@wolf-eat-tiger
@wolf-eat-tiger Жыл бұрын
Usually mud mode puts a little more slack into the traction control I think. Which might be why the wheels spun more in the tundra
@bad_vaporizer
@bad_vaporizer 5 ай бұрын
This is the first time I've said this, but that Toyota isnt going to outlive that GMC.
@DanielDuhon
@DanielDuhon 2 ай бұрын
Not true.
@MrMorris36
@MrMorris36 3 ай бұрын
GMC any day...I have a 2023 GMC X31 off road package and I love it...I'd pay the extra to get the GMC!!
@nithim63
@nithim63 Жыл бұрын
Tundra all day thank you
@Freynightwalker
@Freynightwalker Жыл бұрын
Another grezt video, value for the dollar is an important consideration. Just another thing to thinkabout when spending this dollar value. I do not go off road like this but I like the hybrid engine.
@jesseriley7681
@jesseriley7681 Жыл бұрын
I like 👍🏼 the the Toyotas look 👀 😅better by far the front end and rims although I like 👍🏼 gmc’s bumpers way more
@wint_62
@wint_62 Жыл бұрын
Toyota looks awful.
@fritty9927
@fritty9927 Жыл бұрын
@@wint_62remember beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
@KirkWilliams-y1h
@KirkWilliams-y1h 10 ай бұрын
Great Review I bought my very first Tundra. Long Long Time GMC Denali but hands down the Toyota is a better value and more well laid out truck. I put 295-65r20 Toyo MT on and added the front tow hook bumper and still have 12k less in my truck. Time will tell but I think GMC has priced themselves to far out.
@nikedunkTv
@nikedunkTv Жыл бұрын
Could it be that the cameras look better on the gmc due to the smaller screen 🤔
@rockymountainjazzfan1822
@rockymountainjazzfan1822 Жыл бұрын
I like Toyotas, but the Tundra is a pure off-road poser--no tow hooks, not great underbody protection. Those two deficiencies make the Tundra a loser for hard-core off-road use. From what I have read, Toyota learned their lesson on the 2024 Toyota TRD Pro and it looks to be pretty off-road capable.
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP Жыл бұрын
But who is actually using their new, expensive, full size truck for "hard-core off-road use"?
@fritty9927
@fritty9927 Жыл бұрын
No full size truck is a serious off roader. To big!
@LayzeeGiant
@LayzeeGiant Жыл бұрын
@@ALMX5DPNobody. This is hating by people who can’t afford a new truck. A full sized truck isn’t made for “hardcore” off-roading, it’s made to look tough in the mall parking lot.
@rockymountainjazzfan1822
@rockymountainjazzfan1822 Жыл бұрын
@@ALMX5DP You forget that many full-size trucks are bought by fleet users where trucks can see very tough off-road use. I used to live by one of the largest natural gas fields in the U.S. Those oil/gas service 4WD trucks saw some very severe off-road use going into and out of isolated well sites, etc. A friend of mine uses his business truck (a crew-cab short-box 3/4 ton 4WD) to maintain remote radio repeater sites. One is 17 miles of 4WD trail that would rate a 7+ out 10 for toughness. The trail is actually in a Wilderness Area where vehicle use is prohibited, except for accessing that radio site for maintenance. So, there are people using newer, expensive full size 4WD trucks for hard off-road use--some of them on a daily basis.
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP Жыл бұрын
@@rockymountainjazzfan1822 I’d argue that is a relatively niche use case, and one where fleets and companies are okay buying vehicles and adding the necessary equipment themselves to suit their specific goals and environment. Certainly no TRD Pros or AEV editions being purchased by fleets unless it’s perhaps for the big boss who just wants to write off their personal vehicle.
@4x4adventure_pl
@4x4adventure_pl Жыл бұрын
I've heard great things about the towing capacity of GMC trucks.
@CleaningMyGun
@CleaningMyGun Жыл бұрын
Great match up!
@007NunyaBizNess
@007NunyaBizNess 5 ай бұрын
I don't think it was fair to the GMC to not use the front locker. The Tundra had the extra torque with the electric motor.
@joseramos7476
@joseramos7476 Жыл бұрын
The Toyota plastics don’t make the same noise as the metal so maybe you did hit.
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