Roman, stop being scared 😜. That weather is awesome for a video review of trucks! We want to see more of these types of vids.
@lunamaria10482 жыл бұрын
He was crying about that weather, just a bit🤣
@skookapalooza20162 жыл бұрын
If the truck gets struck by lightning, it might be totalled because it would fry the electrical system. In light of that, his caution makes sense, not to mention the safety of the camera man.
@windycitywarrior712 жыл бұрын
@@skookapalooza2016 called insurance and living your life!
@lunamaria10482 жыл бұрын
@@skookapalooza2016 Not true.. Vehicles are well insulated from lightning strikes and frequently take hits and just keep on driving ... KZbin is full of cars getting hit by lightning.
@Dsmpunk592 жыл бұрын
Roman needs to just focus on the administrative side of TFL and get out from in front of the camera- it’s time
@TheMeanmarine132 жыл бұрын
As a life long die hard Ford guy, I have to admit I really like both of these trucks. Especially the looks and color of that Silverado. And the torque numbers on that tundra are insane! Great review fellas 👏 👌.
@MrFordguy738 ай бұрын
They had a Ford powerboost versus the TRD hybrid, the power boost walked away, and the TRD is ready to have higher torque numbers. I own a power boost, and it is quick.
@FreakyT3332 жыл бұрын
What a great idea to call in the rain and thunderstorm to make that trail run at least somewhat challenging for those off-road beasts 😉
@Matthew-ei2ou2 жыл бұрын
Really good to see a video on the ZR2...seems like most the attention lately has been towards EV and Lighing. Would love to see this truck make the up coming trip with the Lighting
@Bigben-pz8bx2 жыл бұрын
You know ford wouldn’t like that. Having a Chevy chase truck
@15Stammer2 жыл бұрын
Proud zr2 owner here! The updated interior has really impressed me and the ride is fantastic!
@whowicho90642 жыл бұрын
Nice… Looking to get one myself in the near future if not the at4x. Are the new seats comfy? I have a trail boss lt rn and seats are crap lol
@15Stammer2 жыл бұрын
@@whowicho9064 I would say the only seats that beat them out are in the ram rebel and trx. I’m a tall guy and wish they made the lumbar support a touch higher but that would be my only complaint for the seats.
@dr.emilschaffhausen46832 жыл бұрын
Any issues after 5 months?
@fredrandle8994 Жыл бұрын
Only thing I don't like about my zr2 is that the seats are to hard for long trips
@mightymumu89 Жыл бұрын
I've had my ZR2 for about a month now and absolutely love it!! The wife laughs at me because I try to come up with every little excuse to go driving in it 😂
@Reu_ag2 жыл бұрын
Both did great no traction loss at all,maybe the new 4runner might get the front lockers like the land cruiser 300
@TonyStark-or3er2 жыл бұрын
Love the chemistry all the TFL crew has amongst each other, makes watching the videos fun/enjoyable.
@loytowse81402 жыл бұрын
You guys have the best job in the world. Thanks for another great video. I think the storm added to the excitement!
@joshuaschreiner25592 жыл бұрын
Great job! 80 % of the population can't afford a $70,000 truck. But I like that you compared the zr2 to the Toyota and not a trx or raptor. I don't think chevy had it in mind to compete directly with the raptor or trx. But they did try to make it a little more affordable for the little people. In az it's hard to find a new raptor or trx under 90,000. Great job chevy !! And Toyota but the no front tow hooks I simply don't understand
@mikefoehr2352 жыл бұрын
At least my 2020 Tundra has tow hooks. Wish it had a tranny cooler as well.
@rdramos132 жыл бұрын
$70k was expensive ten years ago, two years ago, and today. Doesn't matter where the "market" is at.
@imnottellinudontwannaknow31882 жыл бұрын
Theyre gonna be available soon i believe
@SuperSnakePlissken2 жыл бұрын
@@rdramos13 Bidenflation is real!
@Steve-yr5vi2 жыл бұрын
You can get a nicely quipped F150 FX4 4x4 for $39k, the Tremor is lifted 1" over an FX4.... other than that it only has the optional Raptor front diff. Sure no leather seats, etc.
@ms14062 жыл бұрын
Can yall please do more videos of the trucks in rain!! They look really good in rain! I want to go off roading in the rain now!!!!
@krasnaludek2982 жыл бұрын
Love that ZR2 … absolute solid mix of on road comfort & moderate trail capability. 👍🏻
@jimmysmith32552 жыл бұрын
To bad reliability sucks ass. Lucky if chevys can make it to 100k nowadays
@ironsaint2 жыл бұрын
Too bad the reliability blows ass. If not it would be solid.
@clubtc052 жыл бұрын
@@ironsaint I am a Tundra guy, but I really would get the ZR2 in a heartbeat if the reliability was there.
@johnharmon11932 жыл бұрын
clothe seats and no sunroof for 70k..ya chevy is sweet
@mybro7272 жыл бұрын
@@jimmysmith3255 Absolutely hilarious that Toyota fanboys go-to is still unwavering reliability despite all the unreliabilities and quality control issues people are experiencing with the Tundra. 😂
@JPD6172 жыл бұрын
Great video! I owned a 2015 Toyota Tundra, was a great truck other than the mpg. Out of these two trucks I'd choose the Chevy. Not a fan of what Toyota did to the front end, and lack of recovery points. The Chevy having front and rear lockers is awesome...
@mrjjthor2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The new tundra is hideous from all angles imo and I've owned three Tundras so far.
@kwmiked2 жыл бұрын
Actually the Tundra is pretty nice once u see it in person. Office guy got a Platinum, im surprised how nice it is. I will take it over the GM. GM stuff just doesn't wow me, always something in the truck that reminds me of the 88 caviler
@JPD6172 жыл бұрын
There's no doubt the Tundra has proven it's reliability and the interior looks nice. That damn front end is hard to love 😂. I think the GM trucks finally did the interior right, prior to this version I would agree with the generic Caviler comment. But hey the Z-24 was a fun car back in the day 🙂🙂.
@terrarecon2 жыл бұрын
@James Dugan, I agree. I currently own a 2010 Tundra, love it. MPG Sucks but is sold and I will never sell it. Regarding choices between these two trucks here, I'll take the Chevrolet ZR2. I don't like what Toyota did with the 2022 Tundra, neither do my Toyota mechanics that work on my truck when needed.
@alwaysiyi2722 жыл бұрын
If you haven’t seen the be tundra in person, you have to, in my opinion, it changes your perspective, it changed mine at least. Thought the tundra was ugly saw a 1794 and platinum in person and I actually really liked it
@joekane67252 жыл бұрын
Great video, we need more ZR2 content. That truck never stops amazing me. I got the AT4X and absolutely love this truck. I would like to see you take all three up the trail. I can see Nathan saying, but I have massaging seats!!!!
@richfarfugnuven63082 жыл бұрын
Just got the 3500 HD AT4 with the Duramax 3 days ago. Great truck so far. Can't wait to hook up my fifth wheel and hit the road.
@thethiefonthecross90922 жыл бұрын
@@richfarfugnuven6308 I was going to get the at4-3500 but I just went with the Denali 4x4 3500
@richfarfugnuven63082 жыл бұрын
@@thethiefonthecross9092 it towa ok here in CO. Needs more power.
@thethiefonthecross90922 жыл бұрын
@@richfarfugnuven6308 you think it needs more power? I pulled my 34 ft camper and it seemed really strong I didn't get no hesitation but the new model that is coming out I believe it's the 2023 they say it has 25% more power at the beginning power range so I might trade mine in for that one LOL even though I think mine has enough power
@richfarfugnuven63082 жыл бұрын
@@thethiefonthecross9092 I pull my 42 footer through CO all the time amd can only do 45 going up the Ike Gauntlet...
@ryandelannoy21982 жыл бұрын
If Toyota changes the front and rear bumper and include recovery points, I would be in the market for the Tundra but I don't see that happening. It still suprises me how they would create such a good truck without base level truck features on a $70k rig.
@brandonlo51622 жыл бұрын
Still can't believe Toyota said their reason for no recovery points up front even in the trd pro is because of aerodynamics. Like someone buying a full sized truck is totally gonna care about aerodynamics.
@truckerrickakamanowar2 жыл бұрын
Yeah completely agree. If Im buying a truck it should have basic truck things. That's a big ass fail. Im usually leaning toward Toyota's but in the video vs the Chevy it lost as far as Im concerned. Who cares about the gimmicks like light bar in the grill, it's nice ...but nothing the aftermarket couldn't fix. My question is where do you do a front recovery on that thing without possibly doing some serious damage?
@truckerrickakamanowar2 жыл бұрын
They did the same thing with their so called Rav4 Trd Pro.
@mikefoehr2352 жыл бұрын
@@truckerrickakamanowar Since i am a big fan of MATTS OFF ROAD RECOVERY, the solution i see are soft shackles. In deep mud it would be a pain to put them on or put them on in advance.
@truckerrickakamanowar2 жыл бұрын
@@mikefoehr235 Im also a fan. I guess we'll see at some point. Take care. Enjoy the rest of your evening.
@COChevyTrainMan19902 жыл бұрын
Love the ZR2. Clearly outperforms the Toyota by having more and better off-road gear with front and rear lockers, a better four wheel drive system, state-of-the-art suspension, and one of the best reliable engines from GM, along with a way better approach and departure angle. The ZR2’s current tire size is perfect for day to day use. I wouldn’t change that at all, unless TFL proves that. Great video, TFL.
@atodaso16682 жыл бұрын
leaf springs are not state of the art, they are wagon technology
@krasnaludek2982 жыл бұрын
Agree 100% … ZR2 also looks better inside & out IMO.
@brianhuffman32022 жыл бұрын
@@atodaso1668 Shocks are SOTA, and the "wagon technology" says that it's WELL PROVEN. Next case......
@atodaso16682 жыл бұрын
@@brianhuffman3202 So it has shocks, cool. That's one step up from an 1800's horse buggy I guess. You realize we do have better technology now right? It has leaf springs for one reason: because GM is cheap. You guys are only just getting 4 wheel disk brakes, and independent suspension in your cars!
@1978jhoff2 жыл бұрын
Glad you guys touched it out in the rain. Made for a pretty cool video.
@GreenSweeper2 жыл бұрын
Even more stoked about the Tundra TRD Pro after this video, mine started being manufactured on the 27 of this month, hopefully have it in had by end of next month!
@theclueguy33882 жыл бұрын
congrats!
@koberoy59472 жыл бұрын
I’m switching from a ford fusion (2013) to a 2022 tundra TRD off road. And tbh. When I took my fusion off roading because I fish in remote places, it made it through all these conditions shown. Some people are surprised but I just sent it and she made it just fine.
@02hreblue302 жыл бұрын
lucky next owner of the Fusion LOL
@motivatedcb58372 жыл бұрын
It’s about time they have a new truck with front and rear locking differential!
@StubProductions2 жыл бұрын
Jeep Rubicon bruh
@motivatedcb58372 жыл бұрын
@@StubProductions that’s why I said truck not Jeep. I have a Jeep Rubicon.
@StubProductions2 жыл бұрын
@@motivatedcb5837 They make a truck…. Jeep Rubicon Gladiator
@motivatedcb58372 жыл бұрын
@@StubProductions still a Jeep
@StubProductions2 жыл бұрын
@@motivatedcb5837 Lol! It’s got a bed like a truck. It’s a Jeep AND a truck
@lavaka092 жыл бұрын
I would love to see this zr2 in 35s doing all this obstacles again.
@andyham60942 жыл бұрын
It’s same size tires as the tundra. Both have 33s from the factory. Wouldn’t be fair to the tundra if they only put 35s on the zr2 but I agree 35’s are the sweet spot tire size for these full size half ton trucks. 35’s give it the perfect look and stance.
@gatordunn2 жыл бұрын
And the tundra, please do a tundra vs ZR2 vs Raptor all in 35's comparison, lol they would never.
@lavaka092 жыл бұрын
@@andyham6094 does the tundra belongs to them? I know the zr2 does thats why im saying they should get 35 and see what difference it makes on the same obstacles
@brettbonine71942 жыл бұрын
I just put 285 70r 17s on my colorado zr2 and it's such a big difference, it shpuld have come stock with that size just like the Silveradozr2 should have come with 35s. I don't know why chevy will have a high tier offroad truck and not use the proper tire size.
@lavaka092 жыл бұрын
@@brettbonine7194 they're saving that for the bison silverado thats going to add at least 10k to msrp
@kjdawg5002 жыл бұрын
Zr2 in every category. Best all around stock offroad truck available.
@02hreblue302 жыл бұрын
raptor kills it dude. Not even close
@johnsonjohnson3792 жыл бұрын
@@02hreblue30 raptor only kills it on baha style stuff. You put them in actual 4wd terrain and it’s a different story
@danielmatsunaga1488 Жыл бұрын
Alright…. I tried to look for this comment to give it a like but since I couldn’t find it, here it goes. -- The thought of driving two great brand new full size pickup trucks in the middle of the rain on a cool beautiful trail, WHILE! Talking shop with your friend over walkies! --- Man…. Life goals. Love it.
@johnnytrout89882 жыл бұрын
That was a great review of both trucks. I would chose the ZR2. That's the way to review them. In a storm.
@Mursedave2 жыл бұрын
Great video guys!! That Chevy has really impressive approach and departure angles. I was stressed watching that Toyota almost scrape multiple times. The bow tie made it look easy.
@paulhunter96132 жыл бұрын
Cause it’s a real truck…
@Mursedave2 жыл бұрын
@@paulhunter9613 kind of 😀
@fredwilliams78932 жыл бұрын
@@paulhunter9613 real truck? My built 2013 tundra trd with bds suspension and 35s mud terrain tires would absolutely destroy that zr2! Tundras are real trucks chevy poser!
@lovellmills79592 жыл бұрын
@@fredwilliams7893 so your comparing your "Built" truck too one that comes from the factory off road ready? Lol. The ZR2 would walk ur Tundra 🤣🤣
@paulhunter96132 жыл бұрын
@@fredwilliams7893 and you proved my point, you had to modify your vehicle to be able to run with a Chevy😳😝
@ProCoach23732 жыл бұрын
The gas mileage and front locker seem to be the major differences. I’m a Toyota truck guy, but the turbo and hybrid give me 2nd thoughts.
@allenmcdonald16522 жыл бұрын
I agree totally! I know I am a crusty old man but small engines and twin turbos spells higher maintenance and repair, shorter engine life, and not really as much mpg gain under hard use in real world as on paper.
@theclueguy33882 жыл бұрын
@@allenmcdonald1652 I think itll play out well. While the Landcruiser does have the electricity it does have the same v6. So if Toyota was confident to put it in the Landcruiser i think it'll prove to be a good engine. Especially after a few years of production. We all know Toyota likes to keep engines for as long as possible. They have also been using turbo diesels in their HINO trucks and other trucks for years so I think Toyota has some solid turbo tech under their belt.
@xdtrl38372 жыл бұрын
That’s why I went with my 3rd Tundra with a 5.7 vs the new Twin turboed V6s. A 2017 TRD Pro. They definitely have become complacent with the Tundra now. The amount of small features you have to pay extra for such as a subscription for using the built in remote start. No step up from the bumper to the tailgate unless you want to pay extra for the food down step. For the cost of a house in some areas. Those small amenities shouldn’t be Extra or a monthly fee.
@allenmcdonald16522 жыл бұрын
@xdtrl. Smart choice on your part imo. I decided to switch to Tacoma trd pro this time. I am very happy with it in general but sometimes I really miss the roomy cabin, the power, and that beautiful rumble exhaust. I also am not in love with the gear hunting transmission!
@killanige2 жыл бұрын
@@allenmcdonald1652 wrong. Ford has proven this wrong by a long shot. It's old and tired nonsense saying smaller engine turbo trucks are not long term reliable.
@KErtter12 жыл бұрын
Love the ZR2 content! Y’all are funny!
@normrubio2 жыл бұрын
The suspension arms on the rear axle really dip low on the ZR2. Sayin that, the ZR2 seemed to be the better off-road. The TRD seems to be extremely bulky, bumpers look too cumbersome.
@dennissmith72142 жыл бұрын
No front recovery points, no front lockers, approach angle and plastic up front make it not even an off-roader in my book😳…………it’s for show mostly!
@iandl91472 жыл бұрын
@@dennissmith7214 yep exactly
@allenmcdonald16522 жыл бұрын
I agree with the first part of what you said, but not the second part. The ZR2 IS a better off roader because of the approach/departure angles, front locker, and tow hooks. However the TRD pro ran all of the trails in this video every bit as well as the ZR2 which shows it is definitely NOT just for show, it’s just not quite on par with the Zed. However I believe the Tundra would still do 98% plus what most people would ever dream of attempting.
@alwaysiyi2722 жыл бұрын
@@dennissmith7214 I wouldn’t say it’s for show, I don’t think it’s as good as the ZR2, I think the tundra need bigger tires and a raked front end but it performed just as well as the ZR2 in this test
@paulhunter96132 жыл бұрын
@@dennissmith7214 a mall crawler at best
@kLFJDVKVDJDGF2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed the video during the storm. Real world testing at its best.
@VDawg-cr1gb2 жыл бұрын
Just based on looks alone I’d go with the ZR2. For offroad……I’d go with the ZR2 also. But I already know there’ll be more aftermarket for the Tundra
@vu74192 жыл бұрын
zr2 is better stock. Tundra has a higher ceiling
@krasnaludek2982 жыл бұрын
Easy choice … ZR2 is such a great platform; doesn’t even need much in the way of aftermarket “help.”
@JROC7342 жыл бұрын
Since when has a GM 1/2 ton had a small aftermarket? Even if it doesn't have the same kind of aftermarket as a GEN3/GEN4 LSx the GEN5 LTx still has a decent size aftermarket, and likely one bigger than the new Toyota V6 TT engine will have. It even runs the same transmission as Mustang/Camaro/F150 which helps its aftermarket. The biggest deterrent to the Chevy's aftermarket is GM locking up their tuning abilities so tightly. With that said I'm sure the GEN3 Tundra will have a large enough aftermarket to be able to mod it however you want to.
@douglasvieira1990dv2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the dedication to making this video I really enjoyed it !
@zellodavis84532 жыл бұрын
Great video, these are really the two trucks that compete with each other a step below Raptor and TRX.
@baldomerovega652 жыл бұрын
It would be cool to see the tremor with them aswell
@ElDaddy0072 жыл бұрын
Two steps below the TRX
@baldomerovega652 жыл бұрын
@@ElDaddy007 also 40k below
@JC714442 жыл бұрын
@@baldomerovega65 gottttem
@danramirez42902 жыл бұрын
Love the banter - your channels are only getting better!! Keep them coming.
@tarfeef1012 жыл бұрын
Can you add some cross-ditches to your testing courses? Those are probably the biggest obstacle that stops cars from being able to go further up trails in my area, and I'd love to be able to include practical demonstrations into my purchasing decisions
@stephbarbershop25182 жыл бұрын
The elephant in the room is the MPG. It's the reason for the smaller tires.
@jareddodge19852 жыл бұрын
If I could afford either of those I would go with the zr2
@mansorer53882 жыл бұрын
Great content! Im considering both leaning more towards the Tundra
@dennissmith72142 жыл бұрын
Don’t get stuck because you don’t have any front recovery points or front lockers! 😆😆🤦🏽♂️
@aidenmcgonigal73772 жыл бұрын
I would go Tundra all day. Owned a couple of Chevy’s in my day and I’ve had problems with every single one. Went to Toyota and haven’t looked back. Toyota builds that truck for the everyday person that goes camping on the weekend. Add a Wescott 3 inch lift and 37’s cause they fit with the new body style, and you’ll go everywhere.
@keon86252 жыл бұрын
I went with the Tundra. Currently waiting on it. I saw a Pro in person and IMO it looks better than the ZR2 and even the Raptor, especially in orange.
@MrRGiller2 жыл бұрын
@@aidenmcgonigal7377 I have never had any issues with my Chevrolet vehicles.
@III1IlIIlIllIl2 жыл бұрын
@@aidenmcgonigal7377 Toyota will leave you on the side of the road. My 2010 tundra was in the shop for a new engine when I towed a boat.
@navydoc86952 жыл бұрын
As soon as the Silverado ZR2 🦬 with Duramax option is out and AEV has high clearance fender kit for 35s or 37s I'm in.
@mohammedaldarwish24832 жыл бұрын
There is no doubt that the ZR2 was more confident in crossing the rough terrains, and damn it looks way more attractive.
@youarerightboss2 жыл бұрын
Love that 6.2 liter V-8
@damien78812 жыл бұрын
ZR2 CHEVY SILVERADO VS FORD TREMOR (WHOS THE BEST OF THE BEST) TOW-MPG-ETC...(YOU guys are the best at testing) obviously THIS TEST SITE your doing now. And TRUTH OR DARE... OR FORD RANGER TREMOR VS CHEVYS COLORADO ZR2 OR EVEN THE BISON....HOPEFULLY will see these test soon.
@Torsee2 жыл бұрын
Carful with the Toyota! The rear axles may fall out! New recall
@flight2k52 жыл бұрын
😂🤣 you didn’t even read the recall did you? Naw you just repeated what you heard.
@Welcometofacsistube2 жыл бұрын
But but but but Toyota best!!!
@flight2k52 жыл бұрын
@@Welcometofacsistube but but but they are. How many million mile domestics are their on the road 😂🤣
@Welcometofacsistube2 жыл бұрын
@@flight2k5 more than you think. And less Toyotas than you think, son. The only thing that reliable with Toyotas are the fist sized rust holes within 3 years. Toyota: the most overhyped garbage on the planet
@BIGJBIGEBIGC2 жыл бұрын
You can tell these two had awesome fun today thanks to the elements and the impromptu review
@BYLRPhil2 жыл бұрын
I love wheeling in storms like this :-)
@Jo5ue1 Жыл бұрын
I'm in the market for a full-size truck and just dropping that much money for a brand new one I had to make sure I picked the right one. It's down to two the Toyota Tundra 2023 TRD PRO and the Chevy Silverado ZR2, but man I have seen so many videos of disappointed customers with the reliability of the Silverado truck along with mechanical problems with the other big brand the Ford F150 Tremor. So my money goes to the TRD PRO Tundra.
@nelson.nelsoff.nelson.nelsoff2 жыл бұрын
Interior sound. I noticed how loud the rain sounded in the zr2 vs trd pro. Maybe it's just an issue of camera placement but if it actually is quieter in the trd, would be cool to mention.
@elijahjames94122 жыл бұрын
Good catch. I have a 2019 Silverado and any time it rains hard it’s very loud inside the cab to the point it’s annoying.
@iamjackalope Жыл бұрын
I just commented on that too. It was one of the first things I noticed.
@anthonywarren36562 жыл бұрын
Nothing scares Andre the Russian bear! Great video guys. Actually pretty cool to see a video while in a storm.
@VictorDeveze2 жыл бұрын
Well, Tundra is the only truck that has real Heim (R) rod ends, as in made by Heim in Connecticut. I work for RBC Bearings, we own the Heim division; we are looking to expand usage of actual Heim parts into the Tacoma as well. Funny people call them Heim joints but they are not made by us; auto makers went with cheap stuff, good to see Toyota coming back to actual US-made rod ends, with steel sourced from the US too
@mybro7272 жыл бұрын
Would love to know who makes the steel for the Tundra’s tow hooks. Interesting team of engineers at Toyota…🤦🏽♂️
@ldmtag2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I envy you. Don't lie you didn't want to hear that.
@ldmtag2 жыл бұрын
@@traxxas_cars160 dude, they said "heim", not "hemi".
@Skraals2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, loved how it was pouring amd you guys went through with it, really fun!
@homerfeltheim123452 жыл бұрын
It feels like GM wanted to keep development and special parts as minimal as possible for the ZR2. I think they know the market, while hot, will be ending within the decade because of EV’s. Thankfully the aftermarket can fix the tire size issues
@LonewolfEP11 ай бұрын
I am so jealous you guys are in that environment driving really nice trucks!
@rdsii642 жыл бұрын
Because it doesn't have recovery points, I can't wait to see a TRD pro Tundra get stuck just to see how they go about getting it out.
@CACressida2 жыл бұрын
This is nothing new. Hook to the lower control arms or rip the flimsy clipped on black center portion of the bumper and hook onto the frame rail.
@atlasstjames59042 жыл бұрын
Hook it too the ugly grill, Rip it off and then maybe it would look better
@thelosteddies2 жыл бұрын
My 2WD Silverado even has them.
@rdsii642 жыл бұрын
@@CACressida Thats kind of the point. You shouldn't have to remove the bumper on a $70K truck when you get if you get stuck.
@CACressida2 жыл бұрын
@@rdsii64 and then some will say you shouldn't take a $70k truck offroad. You see, this was a total oversight on Toyotas behalf. They were so blind sided by the towhook debacle they're literally back to the drawing board to give the refresh some tow hooks. Every Toyota truck up until this new Tundra has had tow hooks. Even my 4 door toyota sedan has FOUR recovery points on the chassis. Either way, most people who do serious wheeling in their trucks rip off the garbage pedestrian friendly bumpers and put winch bumpers on anyway. Engineered for better approach angles, better protection, better recovery points and in my opinion, better looks.
@skipwood38352 жыл бұрын
For 70 g’s I’d buy a stock Chevy 2500 or a Ford 250 or Ram 2500 and put 6” lift, king or Fox shocks with reservoir overflow’s and be able to be either one of those trucks hands down and probably have 10 grand in your pocket still..
@Cooldaddymon2 жыл бұрын
70k, lol. What's happening to this world? I was in a showroom not long ago and they had a truck, not special edition, just a loaded truck, for like 90k. WTH?
@bradleyjordan9418 Жыл бұрын
I recently bought a 2023 ZR2 in the same sand dune metallic color and I love it. Too bad the prices are higher than mentioned in the video.
@kevincraftsbcs44882 жыл бұрын
Will the ZR2 get the diesel that the Trail Boss has as an option? Upper 20's mpg is much better than low teens.
@raulgallardo16592 жыл бұрын
Yes. They’ll be releasing a BISON 🦬 trim soon and that one will come with a diesel
@kalebaldwin53982 жыл бұрын
It would be awesome if the straight six Duramax was an option in the ZR2.
@raulgallardo16592 жыл бұрын
It will be soon when they release the bison trim
@meme-yc4ks2 жыл бұрын
Main thing were testing here is our checkbooks with those 1000$ a month truck payments. 😂😂😂👎 NO THANKS
@jasoncampeau29482 жыл бұрын
Most ppl trade there old trucks for almost what they paid for 3-4 years ago, so it’s not that bad on payments
@MonsterZ1232 жыл бұрын
A thousand a month on a truck is worth it if you use it for making money and work
@brianvasquez44842 жыл бұрын
No shit if motherfuckers would just not buy any cars for 6 moths you'd see the price of vehicles fall all the way to hell
@CodBoomer182 жыл бұрын
But really..70k is the new 50k
@johnsims7092 жыл бұрын
F en joke when incomes aren’t going to catch up for a decade 🤬
@drusmith46112 жыл бұрын
Would love to see the F150 Tremor matched up against these two.
@mbukukanyau2 жыл бұрын
Its real competation is the Trail Boss
@quintili12 жыл бұрын
@@mbukukanyau It has the same size tires as the ZR2. Plus a rear locker and torsion front diff. It's absolutely a direct competitor for the ZR2.
@mbukukanyau2 жыл бұрын
@@quintili1 The Trail-boss also has the G80 rear rocker, runs a size 32 tire, pretty much toes over the ZR 2. The only thing Toyota would argue it has over the trail boss is the shocks. But, trail boss has Bilstein monotube 5100 shock absorbers which give it good travel over the regular pick ups, has pretty much as advanced as possible traction control system with a clutch system in its 4WD transfer case to manage power back and front. Anyways, in the end, it comes down to personal preference. For me, the only reason to get a ZR2 is front rocker. That totally makes it superior to all trucks.
@sean47w72 жыл бұрын
The Truck King channel made a video comparing the tremor and ZR2
@markhavelka49242 жыл бұрын
I’d probably buy a Tremor if I were in the market for something like this, but that ZR2 looks pretty good.
@stacystarnes21472 жыл бұрын
For an additional 20k you could.
@AntilleanConfederation2 жыл бұрын
Too much for me. As I have no need for that much truck for towing. If Toyota offered a bronco like truck like the series 70 landcruiser. I’d buy it. But so far the Tacoma gets the job done. The 4Runner is cool but I prefer the Tacoma for its interior and chain driven motor and 6speed
@52CA2 жыл бұрын
One thing that is never mentioned when comparing HP numbers is where that power is made in the rpm range and thus how usable and practical it is. I suspect the turbo’d engine needs to wrapped pretty tight to get those numbers. If so the lower powered Chevy might actually feel more powerful in real world applications.
@temur722 жыл бұрын
Turbos will usually have more low end torque
@chrish18502 жыл бұрын
The hybrid system on the tundra helps with low end torque as well.
@HereForTheBeer14972 жыл бұрын
Peak torque around 2,400 rpm. Tundra will dawg that Chevy.
@mikefoehr2352 жыл бұрын
Electric motors have ALL their torque at near zero RPM.
@RYTF52 жыл бұрын
@@HereForTheBeer1497 especially at elevation like where TFL lives
@baldomerovega652 жыл бұрын
Zr2 all day
@ravensfootball522 жыл бұрын
The trd is bad ass, definitely my pick. Although the Chevy looks great too. I hope we see more from these two
@davec.31982 жыл бұрын
I like the way it looks. But batteries and turbos over 100k? No thanks.
@ravensfootball522 жыл бұрын
@@davec.3198 idk. This technology isn’t new or anything. I’d trust this hybrid engine before trusting a Chevy v8
@davec.31982 жыл бұрын
@@ravensfootball52 Battery tech isn't new, but it ages and replacement is very expensive. So are turbos. Both are wear items that have a very finite life over 100k.
@ravensfootball522 жыл бұрын
@@davec.3198 that’s a good point. Would be nice if they offered a long term warranty to show us they believe in their product
@andreymedz61922 жыл бұрын
@@ravensfootball52 Toyota warranties their hybrid batteries for 10 years/150k miles.
@theclueguy33882 жыл бұрын
Ive found Toyota transfer cases have always been hard to get in and out of 4wd. Electronic or manual. My 92 toyota pickup 22re with manual hubs and transfer case is so hard to get in 4-wheel drive sometimes. I'm sure age has to do something with it too but on the other hand, my 2012 Toyota sequoia with an automatic transfer case is the same way lol. It'll blink and blink and sometimes it just takes some TLC to get it to go into 4wd. My dads ram TRX goes into 4wd instantly lol.
@MrChadx12 жыл бұрын
When going into 4hi, you just need to be moving so things can engage. Sitting still, like Andre did on his 4hi shift, was his issue. My 2013 clicks into and out of 4hi perfectly as have all my Toyotas. 4lo you do when stopped and in neutral, of course, and same thing; right in and out, but many go from 2 wheel drive straight into 4lo. You want to be in 4hi before stopping and shifting into neural and initiation 4lo. I am also in 4hi and 4lo almost every weekend (driving in the mountains) which is good for the actuators. Another tip for 4x4 owners; shift into 4 hi and 4lo at least once a month even if for a short, straight parking lot drive of 50 feet. People that only shift their pickups into 4x4 once or twice a year a way more likely to have issues long term because the actuators not being used can stick.
@ConstantineTitan2 жыл бұрын
Cant wait for the Titan Warrior to enter the chat! Love mine, but would love for these guys to put one up against these other big boys
@killerbuellxb122 жыл бұрын
Both trucks look awesome but the lower stance and clearance in the yota made me clinch my teeth with every angle and not so much with the ZR2
@tequilaboss110 ай бұрын
Please! when doing your reviews you should please be more specific about number that your giving...Loved your video but for me around number it's not good enough. When you mentioned pulling capacity for the Tundra around 10,000 pounds it's actually closer to 11,000 pounds .....For potential byers watching your video who did their home work they can find this to be partial. Just my thoughts, love you guys just the same , great video.
@Toglander2 жыл бұрын
Was the difference in cab noise during the rain accurate? Or was it microphone placement, etc? Because from the video, the interior of the Silverado sounded a lot louder.
@tequilaboss110 ай бұрын
And on the Tundra , the curtain was also open exposing the full glass to the rain with out the buffer????
@ToddCotta2 жыл бұрын
Someday GM will put panoramic sunroof panels in the Silverado. The rain was much more subdued in the TuRD. You could hear the rain on the tin roof in Roman's Z.
@02hreblue302 жыл бұрын
pano seriously decreases rigidity of the body. I would get NO SUNROOF
@dr.emilschaffhausen46832 жыл бұрын
It's mind boggling to me that Toyota wouldn't offer an off-road package for the TRD to include a front and rear bumper with much better approach and departure angles. That tells me they're not really in touch with the community using their trucks.
@Pierce0420 Жыл бұрын
If people want to off-road and want a Toyota, they buy a TRD Tacoma, not Tundra. These trucks are for construction foreman lol, not off-roaders.
@Doc1855 Жыл бұрын
Our personal pickup had gloomy grey and death black interior colors so I had it reupholstered in red with black trim to match the custom 2 tone exterior paint, (silver over red metallic)
@reallyemptypockets65092 жыл бұрын
It took me 4 hours to watch this video because the sound of rain on the roof kept putting me to sleep 🛌, but that’s alright because it took 4 hours to charge my Lightning from 50% to 100%.
@bigpeeler2 жыл бұрын
LOL
@kingpin39192 жыл бұрын
Good stuff as always fellas. Both trucks are sweet.
@bushcraftestonia2 жыл бұрын
Guys please read the manual on Toyotas. It’s so painful watching car journalists try to engage 4H when stationary while it clearly says in the manual to engage it while moving, in which case it goes in immediately.
@R32vdubb2 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY, they already went through this while testing the Tacomas. 🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻 and yet they still seem like rookies
@martinsiedlecki2 жыл бұрын
It should engage immediately at all times
@KeepYourSWORDInYourHand2 жыл бұрын
They always seem like rookies, like car salesmen that aren't really car guys, its pretty weird actually...
@R32vdubb2 жыл бұрын
@@martinsiedlecki if you know Toyota trucks, it doesn’t. Trucks needs to be moving a bit in order to engage.
@thelosteddies2 жыл бұрын
You shouldn't have to do that in any truck in 2022. Toyota is being cheap because they know their fans will accept it. Most other brands haven't had the issue for decades.
@mjfamgo6563 Жыл бұрын
Tundra for sure.I have had mine almost for a year and lots of miles has not skipped a beat! All I know is that I am driving a Land Cruiser truck!
@georgearevalo7812 жыл бұрын
Dig this video...I love that ZR2....awesome stuff as always Roman and Andre..Thank You
@shane4002 жыл бұрын
Watching that made me remember why I keep my old 89 Dakota 4x4 over any 70 thousand dollar new truck! that comes with two hundred dollar plus insurance payments! That couldn't even think about following a thirty-three year old mostly stock truck with fifty dollar a month insurance payments. Lmao. That made my day
@atfarley2 жыл бұрын
Do you think that these trucks might take the same amount of time to shift into (with a little movement) 4wd but the Silverado assumes it'll be good once they start driving so they make the light solid right away and the Tundra is actually just being more... transparent?
@thelosteddies2 жыл бұрын
No, GM has never had the light come on until the 4wd is engaged. It's just a faster engagement and a better design.
@JamesSmith-eu3mq2 жыл бұрын
TUNDRA owner .my 2007 TUNDRA has 405000 miles on it with all original powertrane.. Id like to see that chevy passed 200000 miles.
@Pordar2102 жыл бұрын
Remember when you can get a lot of truck for 45k? That wasn’t that long ago
@thebeddoctor42732 жыл бұрын
Hopefully toyota will listen to their customers and redesign the front end and put recovering hooks
@redlinearroyo8472 жыл бұрын
As much as I love Toyotas trd pro trucks and their tech. I'd just have to go with the zr2 here having a front locker and more aggressive tire and proper recovery points. I also like the cut out front bumper which helps a bit. But dam that light bar would be nice where I live where we have lots of very dark roads because of a lack of street lights. Just pitch black country roads.
@johng92072 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm with you on that💯💯💯 As far as TRUCKS CONCERNED, IT'S AMERICAN OR BECOME A NEW AGE SETTLER💯💯💯
@Harry1s2 жыл бұрын
The obvious big difference during a time when gas costs $4.50 -$6.50 a gallon is the 22-26 MPG with the TRD!!! And you get so much more HP and torque!!!
@02hreblue302 жыл бұрын
bingo. and inherent reliability
@GreenSweeper2 жыл бұрын
Its crazy how much louder the interior of the Chevy was with the rain compared to that of the Toyota. I know Toyota uses a special sound dampening windshield on the TRD Pro and Capstone but that was a pretty dramatic difference.
@bradzimmerman31712 жыл бұрын
Green yup the cheby is tinny for sure & it starts with the lame frame (don't drive a Silverado plain &simple)w/wet noodle strength
@fread512 жыл бұрын
I can't wait until you guys get the Raptor Ranger
@michaeljensen322 жыл бұрын
ZR2 all day long great looking truck 🛻
@optical818 Жыл бұрын
The weather made this video even better
@danaberman69292 жыл бұрын
Great video. I am particular to the ZR2 seeing I own a 20 Trail Boss with the 6.2. Not a fan of the V6 sound of the Toyota, or the fact that the looks are not as nice as the ZR2.
@Pochitoo2 жыл бұрын
One thing i cant get passed is how a new 2022 redesigned tundra , wont think about small details that are detrimental for a pickup truck... recovery points.. and easy bed access like corner steps or tail gate engineering
@02hreblue302 жыл бұрын
past
@scottyellis34422 жыл бұрын
I'd take the ZR2 anyday over those turbos.
@krasnaludek2982 жыл бұрын
👍🏻 CORRECT
@smrtguy777772 жыл бұрын
Chevy reliability is garbage, especially for that 6.2. Their diesel is the only engine worth getting.
@18HunnidBK2 жыл бұрын
Goodluck reselling it 5 years from now from the junkyard. TOYOTA is the KING of all trucks. Thats why They exported and transformed into tanks. Chevy 😂😂 disposable
@scottyellis34422 жыл бұрын
@@18HunnidBK I'm not a Chevy fan by any means but Toyota messed up by switching to the small engine with turbos, they've already had tons of major issues with them. And yes as far as reliability in the older trucks Toyota was hard to beat but they couldn't haul or tow anywhere close to the 3 American brands. They're good for hauling a loaf of bread home from the store & that's about it.
@02hreblue302 жыл бұрын
@Brian Jake Gaming NO. Toyota copied Ecoboost and Powerboost from Ford
@Adrian-jh5cr Жыл бұрын
Just put the Toyota 3/2 lift on my 22 Tundra, it sat way to low for a 4x4 and the lift helps a lot. Also running duratracs makes a big difference on the traction factory tires are horrible.
@TCOCHRAN19572 жыл бұрын
Curious if a VHS tape fit in the Chevy flow-tie?
@glenarseneau47962 жыл бұрын
I’m a tundra guy and own the 22 but if I didn’t the Chevy would be my next choice
@wesshepard2 жыл бұрын
Great video guys, thanks for the content.
@davidcisneros44002 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! You guys are great! 🤓
@mikewright28582 жыл бұрын
I love my Toyotas, but I would love to ve in the room where Toyota folks argue AGAINST welding some recovery points to the truck. It HAS to be inexpensive to do, everyone else has them - but instead they omit them and people have to try and justify their absence.
@bravozulu60682 жыл бұрын
Good Video, but at the 9:11 - 9:15 mark: Just one of the reasons to never get a Moonroof on a truck.
@DeltaDxE2 жыл бұрын
ZR2 is sweet! 🤘🏻
@rodgood2 жыл бұрын
Remember when Jeep used to test their new models for the trail rated badge , over the Rubicon Trail? lets test the ZR 2 ,TRD Pro, 150 Tremor, Powerwagon , and see who comes out on top . who wants to see that?
@ToyotaNutjob2 жыл бұрын
Wgag. Landcruisers shit on white girl jeeps
@christinoumel22912 жыл бұрын
Wish these trucks weren't so darned expensive. I remember when $30k was too much! lol.
@Stuka872 жыл бұрын
I think Toyota is nuts for charging the same price as a base Raptor for that truck.
@krasnaludek2982 жыл бұрын
Agree & exactly why the Tundra is 5th place in sales for the segment.