Most underrated sneaker channel. You’re the only one consistently comparing OG to retros on video
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words, I do enjoy this! I appreciate you watching.
@UNDFTDGordon8 ай бұрын
The review that matters. Love my pair. Amazing shape. My dad played ball in these back in 1989 and would always talk about them. Got him a pair too. Glad these were really easy to get.
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
That's very cool, first Jordan's I wanted when I was 9! Thanks for watching!
@UNDFTDGordon8 ай бұрын
@@ogorbust1697Not a problem. Keep the content coming.
@jubeikibagami8 ай бұрын
The best retro since the 99s shapewise. But still the proportions of the ogs are unmatched. Retros today looks more like plastic toy figures..stiff and wonky in some places. Ogs were really created after the human foot, soft and flexible with intentions of goin straight to feet then court 💥
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
Exactly, I agree with your words. Shape and cut is unmatched to the OG. Definitely wanted to dig deep, way too many people saying they have the OG shape. Improved yes but so much incorrect
@kickstorypodcast8 ай бұрын
Such a dramatic front & back slant for the OG. We appreciate your attention to details with this comparison. Retro was a good release but you clearly showed how great OG’s will forever be. 🫡
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
Thanks man, yeah between shape and construction they haven't come close on the 4s. These are improved but still major differences. Always top priority though to own the originals #likemike wore
@kickstorypodcast8 ай бұрын
100%.
@Jesus2006-k6x8 ай бұрын
Probably the best retro ever.
@veryfewrealleft14058 ай бұрын
Real close
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
Most likely, more improvements to do, hopefully they keep specs and improve. Seen enough releases where they fix one thing then mess up 2 they previously had correct. That really drives me crazy
@brianhorsey62338 ай бұрын
Amazing review the best retro out close as we can get in this era
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
Thanks man, yeah definitely the best we've seen!
@PAJ23968 күн бұрын
I just picked up a pair yesterday. Sitting in a consignment store for a really good price, or maybe they were just write a retail. I can’t remember. I came to your video to see the comparison, and the original still is unmatched. That slope or aerodynamic as you called it, is unmatched. But I will say these do look pretty good, the slope on them is the best I’ve seen, and this is the best shape I’ve seen since the original. So I’m happy with the purchase even a year later.
@ogorbust16978 күн бұрын
@PAJ2396 the military 4 is definitely best we've seen in a minute.. I think the overall shape and cut is better than bc4 reimagined too.
@omard6268 ай бұрын
Got 2 pairs and I can say that there are some shape differences one of my pairs has a short stubby toe box like the fire reds and my other pair has a longer sleek toe box similar to the 89s
@MrRich5048 ай бұрын
Great review!! 👏🏽 👏🏽👏🏽 As a person who remembers circling the mall and stopping at footlocker(when the had the basketball backboard and hoop) looking at the 4’s EACH time we passed (atleast 10x) I sincerely appreciate your reviews. In my opinion your reviews are one of if not THE best on KZbin.
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
Thanks man, I appreciate you tuning in.. always keep it real 💯
@tedbundy22688 ай бұрын
Best Jordan sneaker reviewer on utube my opinion 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@veryfewrealleft14058 ай бұрын
💯
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
Thanks man, I appreciate it! 🙌🏻
@GeoffSweet7 ай бұрын
Good stuff man. my first ever pair of Jordans was the Military Blues back in junior high. I bought a pair in '06. They were meh. Tought a pair in '12. They were worse. HAD to buy the new ones. so far, I think they are pretty decent. the only thing (and I know all sneaker heads know this). They're lacking in the comfort department for the bottom of your feet. The OGs...most certainly WERE comfy. I replaced the insoles and boom, instantly more comfortable. Dig your content man. I'd love to see Nike re-release the Air Flight 89 or 90 high again or the Air Force 5 mid...loved those as well.
@ogorbust16977 ай бұрын
@GeoffSweet thanks for watching! Yeah, I agree on comfort with all my jordans I pretty much put in better insoles. They don't make them like they used to from materials to build and comfort. At least some improvement on this release, still far off the OG
@GeoffSweet7 ай бұрын
@@ogorbust1697 agreed, but I'm glad to see Nike making st least an attempt to re-create their old magic. Now, that being said, I have their new Jordan 38...and can tell you, they are fantastically comfortable. Completely stock.
@resiejr8 ай бұрын
Was waiting on this one. Just started, thanks for making these!
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
My pleasure, as always love to give a reason to break out some originals to share with the community and capture in 4k 😆
@jasonwolfe32528 ай бұрын
I always look forward to Jumpman Bostic and your reviews. Best shoe tubers on the net.
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
Thanks man, he's a cool dude too!
@courteousanalyzer8 ай бұрын
I was waiting for this comparison to drop 😅 thank you!
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
Haha my pleasure, hope it satisfies!
@maxwellorville56278 ай бұрын
Woo been waiting for this one
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
Thanks man 👊🏻👊🏻😎
@amedeo22258 ай бұрын
Crazy comparison man. It’s a good retro at the end of the day, very solid
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
Thanks man, happy with them. Hopefully more improvements in the future!
@amedeo22258 ай бұрын
@@ogorbust1697 yeah hopefully… I’ll start to make the toe area more pointed. It’s a general issue from 1 to 5’s
@lelli97bo8 ай бұрын
Amazing review💙
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
Thanks, I appreciate it!
@christenn328 ай бұрын
I'm happy with my pair, but what bugs me is Nike talking about how close to the OG these are when they clearly are not. The whole rake of the shoe is different, just to name one glaring difference.
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
Exactly!! So many people too thinking they are OG shape finally, well off to be honest and that's why I dive into these comparisons as best I can to show the truth.
@kinshilp8 ай бұрын
subbed! hope u could do J11 playoff retro vs OG comparison coz i feel the cut on retros are shorter
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
Thanks man, I sold off retro 11s I had and reglued ogs. Future releases I may grab a pair to compare etc.
@BigSparky13168 ай бұрын
Man they looks so much better then before but why won't Nike/JB just fix them!? It's so weird. Awesome video brother! Toe looks pretty good but I wish they'd fix that lower but vamp where the netting sits on top of the foot. That looks good.
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
Thanks man, yeah some improvements for sure. Some more tweaking could but done and better materials but overall solid
@BigSparky13168 ай бұрын
@@ogorbust1697 way more tweaks from those side shots Jeez man that slope is way off. Idk how people on IG show their OG's that look similar to these. Are the OG militarys just way worse shaped then the Other OG's?
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
Thanks man, hopefully this is an eye opener to those saying they are "og cut". Lots to fix still but step in right direction.
@SwuadeTVАй бұрын
I always wonder if the retros can fit in the OG box
@MEQUPWER8 ай бұрын
got mine so im happy, im going to wear one military and one fire red a@ the same time!!!! like back in the day
@DR.DisInfect8 ай бұрын
Just get the What The 4s
@rikosimmo8 ай бұрын
The black rounded teardrop part of the og continues that angled aggressive look. The retro looks much kinder and less menacing 🤣
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
Exactly!! That shape is what makes the OG 4and many other so special and tough. Retros look like grocery getters 🤣
@nicknachoakalowkey70338 ай бұрын
U need to be at 1 million subs but anyway my grail has arrived after 35 years and I'm loving my 3 pairs
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
Thanks man, spread the word lol🙌🏻🙌🏻
@jiveturkey13678 ай бұрын
You always come thru
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
Thanks, I appreciate you tuning in!
@ebiedog8 ай бұрын
I remember as a kid in 89 cutting the side mesh after they got worn out.
@Anthony_Torres8 ай бұрын
ogs look way better holy shit im not buying any 4s until they fix those big ass heel tabs
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
Yeah man, many things still need to be tweaked.. tabs one of them. A bit of an eye opener for all those saying they are og spec 1989, not the case
@veryfewrealleft14058 ай бұрын
Masterpieces imo
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
The OGs definitely masterpiece, that's a strong word lol.. solid retro but many differences.
@veryfewrealleft14058 ай бұрын
@@ogorbust1697 I think they both are in their own right. If I’m judging the 2024 by 89 standards then clearly it’s the OG , everytime. If judging by having to pass 06 & 2012 then I couldn’t be happier with these. What I will say for sure. Is this retro fight a lot of unnecessary negative hyperbole.
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
@veryfewrealleft1405 the '24 is definitely the best retro to date, always room for improvement. Especially when JB is charging $235 for these, they should've at least had better leather.
@veryfewrealleft14058 ай бұрын
@@ogorbust1697 I couldn’t agree more about the price , and I’m gonna tell you the truth, bro if I didn’t live in Pennsylvania where there’s no tax, I’m not sure I would be willing to pay that 235 that’s just a little too steep when you start breaking 230 to 25 even. The fire Reds were $200 in 2020 & I thought 190/200 OG was still high but it was relatively fair in comparison to you know if you think of the 2016 true blue 3s were 225 the 2015 maroon six was 220. They sat right ?!? Nike was forced to lower the price. We need to see that again we all understand the concept of inflation, but we also gotta understand the concept of recession.
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
@veryfewrealleft1405 that's exactly it.. the prices keep going up but it's not justified for materials used. There's no way I'd double up, think about it.. almost $500 for two pairs?! It's crazy, for that amount they better be even better shape and high quality leather.
@bigarthansatan25908 ай бұрын
Great comparison
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@billybassman218 ай бұрын
Had to change out those insoles, my feet hurt so bad walking around with them. Now they are comfortable and feel great all over.
@ninofarhan98078 ай бұрын
What you put in
@billybassman218 ай бұрын
@@ninofarhan9807 I actually had bought the Developer Boring replica Jordan 1s and found them to be really uncomfortable. I think they mixed up the left and right sole so it feels like I have them on backwards when I don't. Anyway the insoles with those are very good and I used them.
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
I always swap Dr Scholls, been rocking those clouds
@ninofarhan98078 ай бұрын
@@ogorbust1697hell yea
@nolastnamejames1778 ай бұрын
Can’t wait for your AM 180 vid.
@demetriousstephens19988 ай бұрын
After seeing these compared to the OG, the shape is definitely improved but not the exact “OG cut.” Still love my pair nonetheless because it’s my favorite color way behind the White Cement, now we need Nike to work on the 5’s and 6’s shape. 5’s need a complete overhaul 😅 Love your in depth analysis man 🔥
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed the video and found it useful! 5s have really fallen off og shape recently. Not sure what's going on over there but hopefully they do justice to the black metallic next year.
@DOHCtorJ8 ай бұрын
Finally! I've been waiting for you to do a review on these, and wanted your thoughts. I was hoping you had the original Military Blue 4s. Heres what I dont like: Three different shades of blue (heel tabs, midsole and eyelets) The shade of vlue is up for debate, as Ive seen old pictures going both ways. The off white blue-ish or gray uppers. The shade of gray on the wing. At this point theyr could of just called them reimagined. Also, the price sucks, and the leather quality is just meh. Just my .02 cents. Id be happy to hear more of your thoughts..
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
Thanks man, yeah I wish I did have the og.. maybe one day. At least a cut and shape reference with fire red most importantly in the same size. I think the blue looks pretty close on midsole, again different lighting on photo references etc could change. That's why in hand is always the best. Solid retro though, had to get a pair but I agree on leather and price point.. had to mention in video too kinda ridiculous lol
@veryfewrealleft14058 ай бұрын
My size . I put OG 1989 pair on my channel. Full grain without coating would’ve been perfect. But color , shape seems 🎯
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
Yeah, a lot of people dogging the shade of blue but from what I've seen it looks close
@teknique82928 ай бұрын
These videos make me sooo mad!!! Why can’t Nike get the toe box right??? J’s used to be a skinnier shoe now they fat like boots. Btw thank you for this detailed video! Love your channel!
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
Im not trying to upset you, just clarifying what exactly we get vs the originals lol.. so many said "og cut" as we know that's not true. Thanks for tuning in!
@jonnyj7417Ай бұрын
They can, but choose not to.
@jimmyschlenk95028 ай бұрын
Very enjoyable video! Keep up the great content! I’m with you on the price !😬
@FreshYoungDude8 ай бұрын
Wish they had a poly insole like the reimagined 4’s but other than that I agree with 8.5/10.
@bulletz4life8 ай бұрын
Move all day insoles made these feel like a runner.
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
For sure, yeah I think that's a fair score
@UNDFTDGordon8 ай бұрын
@@bulletz4life I use those insoles in all my shoes now. I agree.
@cuhson8 ай бұрын
I'm not sure why JB insists on having a lower cut in the back with a higher back tab. Those back tabs rub against my Achilles when I don't wear high(er) socks and it's quite bothersome. That's my biggest gripe with these retro's!
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
Exactly, just raise the collar and shorten the tabs a bit they'd be much closer.
@nicktritz25678 ай бұрын
Truly wish they would go to the higher cut for the back Bcs I love that it’s more slick more flush and I love that even on the 3s look amazing Bcs it’s not going to far with the back tab now for some reason Nike can’t get it right i hope soon we can get the true version
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
Higher cut, slanted from heel on down to toe box just makes a world a difference!
@AllOutNoobHater8 ай бұрын
As I will always say, it makes zero sense to charge $200+ for a retro and it NOT have the same leather that the Air Ships have, which cost $150.
@veryfewrealleft14058 ай бұрын
I asked , & received !!!! 👍🏼 now I will enjoy.
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
Haha, I hope you did!
@UNDFTDGordon8 ай бұрын
I use Move insoles exclusively in my shoes now. I take the insoles out of my new Air Jordans the first time I wear them.
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
I'm loyal for Dr Scholls lol
@CGRstudios18 ай бұрын
Great pair but just needs higher proportions towards the back.
@AirCoded15238 ай бұрын
Excellent comparison as always, brotha! My pair will be here any minute once the mail man drives up. Unfortunately, some LeChoke fan reported me for calling Bron a bitch, and reported me. They deleted my Instagram account lol
@marvin75338 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
Lol what?!? That's crazy! Leflop faithful must be running IG now 🤣
@smithysendy8 ай бұрын
That vertical heel is terrible for heel slip, I might have to size down these thangs fit huge!
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
Ah damn.. haven't worn these yet.
@hozezae292 ай бұрын
Shape wise i like the 2024 military blues its slope goes all the way down at that slant. The OGs slope as well but not how the retro is. Ppl just got this belief that everything OG is great and its not. I never liked the extra long netting going down to the toebox, the big ass mesh panel where the material bends and looks wiggly and loose the retros look better. The retros looks more plush on the netting making it look more intact. The 2012 and 2024 were good solid built military 4s when they released but i remembered the 2012s getting so much hate and ppl trashing it talking bout the quality when they had some of the softest and plush materials on it. Also and im from that era but OGs could use some redefining on some of these shapes, all the OG builds arent perfect.
@veryfewrealleft14058 ай бұрын
Do you think the slant is more pronounced on the fire red because there’s no suede on the mudguard ?
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
No, same thickness of material, all the ogs built like that, comes down to construction with last etc
@Crnicelad8 ай бұрын
I have no idea why in europe the colorway of this retro is called Industrial blue instead of the correct OG color.
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
Even on snkrs here they were saying that lol.. it's military
@east9z8 ай бұрын
its like that everywhere
@danielrecalderon67358 ай бұрын
🔥
@tedbundy22688 ай бұрын
Maybe one day nike will give us a one to one Of the 3's and 4's
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
Yeah, 3s are closer. 2s they are killing now since black cement. Every other model needs work lol
@ronw.simmsjr.3628 ай бұрын
Only the black cement was durauck and the other 3 were all leather. Or did I mishnderstand what you were saying…
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
Military is the only leather, other 3 are durabuck.
@redcomet63274 ай бұрын
7:02 The wings are angled too far forward. I think that's what causes all the problems with the shape, forces the side netting to be too small, the lace holes start more forward and end too high, which causes that hump on the front plastic tabs. Everything mid-foot and forward is all crammed. OGs look sleek. Retros still look like boats. Real shame.
@jonnyj7417Ай бұрын
Damn, didn’t notice that until you mentioned it. That’s what happens when they tweak the shoe instead of doing a full recraft. It’s so many things wrong with the current retro, but some will claim they are the closest to the 1989 originals. I strongly disagree as the 1999 retros are still the closest.
@itbecameclear8 ай бұрын
they just have to lower the cut towards the midsole and it will be perfect
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
For toe box yep, bur the collar needs to be raised to be level with heel tab
@AJfiend8 ай бұрын
Me-de-uhl not Me-dial bruh
@veryfewrealleft14058 ай бұрын
Military blue was the only OG four that was leather *you mentioned it
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
Yep!
@ML-ib3oq8 ай бұрын
They will never get the tongue right that’s why I stay away over priced too!
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
Too tall 😅
@fredholt91918 ай бұрын
So that means Jordan Brand and Nike screwed up with the Fire Red 4s 🤦🏿♂️
@ogorbust16978 ай бұрын
The last fire red retro?? Yeah, soooo off.
@noname4u2see8 ай бұрын
no one buying these, most of the "reviewers are tring to fool people into thinking these are hard to get. and anyone under 25 is calling these the dad shoe colorway. hold off on buying these if you really like these, cuz they'll be at leat half off by july
@demetriousstephens19988 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 my guy these are sold out just about everywhere. What’re you on about?