2024 Fiat 500E Winter Cold Weather Range Test | Impressive Results!

[@NickDariusGolf]

I did about 100 kms yesterday in Montreal, mix of highway and urban. Got home with 53% left in the battery. Was very impressed. Highway is the enemy to charge levels

[@simplygregsterev]

@@NickDariusGolf it’s not horrible at all

[@bradbitski]

I have driven mine at -27C in Saskatchewan and my commute is 40kms. In those temps at 100-110 km/h the range was close to 1km to 1% of battery consumed. I used 36% of the battery in that 40km commute with the heat set on high. The heater performance at -21C and colder starts to diminish significantly, even when set on high, but the heated seats are like lava lol! They perform perfectly in the cold; a heated steering wheel would be nice

[@simplygregsterev]

@@bradbitski the heated seats work insanely well lol

[@freduah4253]

I noticed that, use AC when it's under -10 to kill the cold and humidity, espacially if you park outside overnight, turn on the heater 5-10min later. you'll save energy. AC doesn't use that much power compare to heater. My EV doesn't have pre-heat system while plug in by the way... my comment could not make sense if your car has that option

[@Anthony-qj7qe]

My wife's 500e just got a taste of winter, and its pretty good, so far she loves it. To be honest, I'm surprised how roomy this car feels...😊

[@simplygregsterev]

@@Anthony-qj7qe it’s larger than my mini

[@robertlafleur5179]

Very good, the Fiat 500e can still go quite a distance in the cold. Looking forward to another test when it's colder.

[@simplygregsterev]

@@robertlafleur5179 i was very impressed

[@lancenutter1067]

I loved my gen one Fiat 500e, and I would have kept it if I could have had better range. I think it was 27kwh battery? Ended up with a 2017 Chevy Bolt which I also love. 65kwh battery after the upgrades. Anyway cool little cars.

[@toyotaprius79]

Heat pumps, electric heated seats and front windows. These are what every EV past and present should have

[@carterdavis5176]

Are there any EVs that currently use heat pumps?

[@AlexMarkovRus]

​@@carterdavis5176 Yes Kia Niro EV, Teslas

[@RoccoReviews]

​@@carterdavis5176 yes, all the Tesla's do after 2022 I believe.

[@oscarnovember]

4:10 we have the rose gold version and the paint is insanely thick. Someone bumped into the driver’s door and we just had the dent pulled out and all the scratches came off with a polishing machine.

[@simplygregsterev]

The paint in many areas is barely 2mm. And it’s extremely hard clear-coat. Not sure what answer you are looking for but the paint is below average.

[@BoopsieR5]

I have the 24kwh version on 15” wheels in the UK and it’s rated at WLTP 110 miles but I’m lucky to get over 90 miles in mixed use in warmish temperatures but I keep mine between 10 and 90% soc. I really enjoy your content……keep up the great work.

[@simplygregsterev]

@@BoopsieR5 thanks for watching

[@ouija5827]

I just discovered you recently, great content, thank-you! Question: How does the Fiat compare to the Mini SE despite the smaller battery?

[@simplygregsterev]

@@ouija5827 We have a video comparison between the Mini and Fiat. Mini is more efficient and more of a hot hatch

[@gregmckay567]

I would like to see a range test at closer to -20C to -30C

[@thenetworkarchitectchannel]

First off. Nice looking car. I am commenting at the start. My guess is 180. I think the battery will be warm from the DCFC and it will make normal distance from the cold, but the head wind is where it will loose out. Watching your vids makes me miss St. Huberts Chicken. Been there a few times. Really good food. Thx for the video. Will do a reply at end with thoughts after done.

[@simplygregsterev]

@@thenetworkarchitectchannel St Hubert is a guilty pleasure of ours a few times a year!

[@thenetworkarchitectchannel]

Hey, I got pretty close. Fun video. Thx. I enjoyed watching.

[@simplygregsterev]

@ The Mach E range test/ train wreck of a video will be up soon

[@simplygregsterev]

@ thanks for watching!

[@drfisheye]

The Fiat doesn't have setting to limit the charge to 80%. How do you feel about charging to 100% every time? I usually charge mine to 85% at home, but I needed some smart-home software to control my charger to accomplish that.

[@simplygregsterev]

@@drfisheye 100% indicated is SOC BMS 93%. Personally I just time within a specific slot at setting 4 and it’s fine for me. Also the car is leased and goes back after 40 months

[@MarylanderX]

I have a 2013 500e (which, of course, is significantly different from the current model) and am also a motorcyclist who rides year round. I have a cigarette lighter adapter for the electric jacket I wear on the motorcycle and use the jacket so I don't have to run the car's heat. It makes a big difference and makes the old 500e functional in winter. I would otherwise need to just drive it without heat even on cold days (we see as low as -18C on rare occasions, currently it's -15).

[@simplygregsterev]

I saw a diesel heater setup in a chevy spark ev once

[@benjaminrange2031]

Thanks for the test from Switzerland. What has your tire ?

[@simplygregsterev]

Nokian R5

[@benjaminrange2031]

@simplygregsterev and what is the size ? 16 or 17 ? Thanks

[@simplygregsterev]

@ 16 for winter, 17 for summer

[@LeftCoastEV]

I was very optimistic with my guess of 210. But if it was a bit warmer and using all of the buffer it might have gone that far. Thanks for doing this!

[@simplygregsterev]

I thought about using more of the buffer but in reality not everyone is a nerd like us running car scanner!

[@LeftCoastEV]

@ haha true but also you are giving consumer advice by telling people you have quite a bit of buffer after zero. We out here providing a valuable service!

[@KyleRuggles]

Great video! Glad I stumbled across this channel and also based in Montreal too! Could you do another test when it's -30 or so? Subscribed!

[@simplygregsterev]

@@KyleRuggles If the weather and time allows I will do my best. Thanks for subscribing

[@KyleRuggles]

@@simplygregsterev No problem! Appreciate the video though! Surprising results, I'm just really curious about when it hits REAL Canadian winters heh, -5 we know now how it'll perform. I say the true test is at -30 to -40. No rush!

[@simplygregsterev]

@ -30 40c rarely happens. When it does it’s for a few days tops. Avg temps aren’t that bad.

[@Jaari-b9s]

I wonder if it would actually be better driving range in the city in the bitter cold because of the regen braking and everything rather than just driving on the highway ? I would be all over this it's just how would we charge it we rent and I don't know if you could just plug it into a regular outlet but our utilities are included 😊

[@simplygregsterev]

Im trying to work out a video on this

[@chunminglu]

is there anyoption for thermo-pompe for battery? and can you keep car warm during the verre-glas days ? will be very need to know it if that kind of weather happens. thank you

[@nitramb31]

Question about the car, how do turn off the exist sound, i hate the christmas jingle when i shut if off. I could not find the answer in the owners manual. Thanks

[@simplygregsterev]

@@nitramb31 As far as I know you can’t. Need to code it out with a scan tool

[@esthetiqueskel]

Good to know there’s a charger there. I bought La prima and am in les coteaux. I’m on the 17” tires and drove to Prévost last Saturday at 100% went through hawesbury and arrived with only 11% left. Why didn’t you put your cell on the charger ?

[@simplygregsterev]

@@esthetiqueskel Charger coverage is good there and Rigaud is about to undergo a major expansion. I like to use the RFID card, force of habit

[@UPdan]

Winter tires are great on snow with these.

[@gregyohngy]

Bonjour from Philadelphia! Visited a few times in my VW TDI Jetta, but that's less than a tank of fuel. I have a 2017 500e and I just get about 5 miles per kw in the Summer or 90 miles maximum not driving highway speeds.

[@trr5291]

The range is acceptable for the size. Most people will buy this car to drive to work and to do town driving. They will plug it in at home when they get home, wake up, and be ready to go.

[@simplygregsterev]

@@trr5291 pretty much how we drive it

[@trr5291]

​@@simplygregsterev Most electric vehicles are a nightmare on road trips. They need to improve the range.

[@simplygregsterev]

@ ive done enough serious road tripping and its fine. Fiat might be a big rough but doable.

[@SURO90]

@@trr5291road trips in a fiat 500? You won‘t be doing 1000km hypermiling but other than that who cares? Take the 800km range EQS for that …

[@trr5291]

​@@SURO90 I said that most people will be using it in town.

[@Joeneln]

Do you keep you battery full of charge in cold? What is the ideal percentage charge for winter?

[@simplygregsterev]

@@Joeneln I practice ABC “Always Be Charging” 100% SOC indicated is around 93-94! SOC BMS. On a daily basis I charge around 20-90%

[@paulboucher2664]

I would like to know whats the app you're using to pull up those data from the bms

[@simplygregsterev]

@@paulboucher2664 car scanner elm via a bluetooth dongle

[@paulboucher2664]

@simplygregsterev thx for the answer... Tried car scanner but got the error message that the dongle doesn't connect to the vehicule....

[@paulboucher2664]

Don't mind, I had 2 elm327… One was a trashy one and one was a good one... Tried it with the trashy one thinking it was the nice one...

[@JamesMcLaren1000]

It would be interesting to compare what the city driving range would be in similar circumstances.

[@simplygregsterev]

Harder to control variables but I will figure out a test

[@gerhardk98]

How is the build quality on your 500e? I have a 2013 Fiat 500 Lounge model and while I liked driving the car, liked the looks both inside and out the reliability and build quality will probably keep me from buying another Stellantis product. It was a good car for 5 years, maybe 6 but then one thing after another failed.

[@simplygregsterev]

@@gerhardk98 Id say the build quality is slightly below average

[@ralphd.4857]

I thought charging Li batts at below freezing temps wrecks them. How does Fiat get around this?

[@simplygregsterev]

It still has thermal management… its not aircooled like a Leaf. It will just draw very low current while charging

[@tomekk503]

During winter, I saw one bubble Mitsubishi electric driving in snow. Should be 15 inch 205mm. 4x4, all made with aluminium, so no rust. Acceleration should be no more than 5.5 sec (0-100km ) made in Italia or Germany

[@aleistermarley]

Did 175km today at 2°C with my LaPrima. Battery went down from 98% to 5%.

[@simplygregsterev]

In my experience in warmer weather the car exceeds its advertised range

[@Tharrinne]

Euuuhhhh le flasher paraît où dans le dash? Je vois que des fois, tu mets ton flasher mais je ne vois juste que par le levier?!

[@simplygregsterev]

Dans ecran LCD

[@freduah4253]

I drive a small EV with a 16 kWh battery. I won't lie - when that turtle icon shows up because it's too cold or I didn't plan my trip properly, I get anxious right away. Even though I know I can probably still drive another 5-10 km in town if I'm very gentle and on a flat surface, it’s nerve-wracking. I've learned the hard way with a towing bill that you should charge your EV whenever you can, not just when you need to! XD I still love my car, but for long distances, I’d recommend a gasoline or hybrid car.

[@simplygregsterev]

It is a good idea to charge whenever possible.

[@GordonChristie]

my car cannot start under 35 in south texas

[@lionelhowell4972]

how much is the heater drawing??

[@simplygregsterev]

Around 2kw iirc

[@drfisheye]

190wh/km at -4C going at 110kmh isn't that bad considering the car doesn't have a heatpump.

[@simplygregsterev]

@@drfisheye not horrible at all. TBH roughly what the Model 3 got at 115kph

[@jeanhup]

Just bought a 3 year old 500e with 70k. Still does 200km with the charge going down from 100%-5% with temperatures around 0-2°C. Driving in range mode in mixed traffic (averaging 55km/hr) with the heating and AC on 21°C. I am very impressed, especially since we also have a 4 year old Peugeot e2008 with a 50kW battery doing a little bit less than 200km in the same conditions. I think the 500e is a far better EV than the e2008.

[@simplygregsterev]

Amazing!

[@anthonydevono8833]

I like these Fiat 500 Ev,s but in the uk we don’t have the infrastructure with chargers etc so if you can’t charge on driveway at home you are in trouble also we get a lot of wintery weather so this and the Mini Ev don’t make sense unless you have short commute to work like your hat by the way!

[@simplygregsterev]

@@anthonydevono8833 Ha thanks. Infrastructure here in Montreal is good and we spend lots of time in the UK. Its not bad I found.

[@cleopatsimbacat]

Sounds like my iPhone battery lol

[@toyotaprius79]

4:10 and it must be said a reason why the 500e is so expensive is because it's built along side Maseratis in Turin, instead of eastern Europe as the ice 500 and Panda did. A big disgrace imho is how Stellantis/FCA is squandering everything that theyre reverse engineering an electric car to accomodate a 12v mild hybrid but they neglect think to create a medium sized battery, a PHEV or adapt the Panda into the 500e considering that the 500 is derived from the Panda. Instead of a dynamite EV panda they're using a different global platform for the new Panda that's a segment larger than the ice Panda which faces the axe in 2026.

[@ianrob4760]

mentioned before to you that Fiat with this car could have had a big seller if only priced it low as we now see uin europe with others, the Italian EV market is basically bust because of their stupid pricing as they can be very parochial .

[@simplygregsterev]

When it came out it was priced somewhat accordingly but now there is way more competition in the European market. Here in Canada it’s the only sub compact or compact EV for sale. Stellantis is lease dumping them

[@ianrob4760]

@@simplygregsterev indeed if they released it now over here for say base 21-23 K then yep a good one, to declare my MIL has a petrol Fiat500 so know how good it is

[@alwaysallblacks]

The Greggs hat ahah

[@simplygregsterev]

@@alwaysallblacksprecious steak bakes

[@teddysdadcory]

Wind is the worst for all EV’s

[@tedsmart5539]

-5C isn't cold. do the test at -24C....

[@simplygregsterev]

@@tedsmart5539 I would do it at -24c and you would come back saying “thats not cold do the test at -40c” it’s never ending

[@paulboucher2664]

​@@simplygregsterev You should test it at -273c so nobody could try it in a colder environment than you...

[@simplygregsterev]

@@paulboucher2664 precisely 😅

[@crabdonkey6381]

125 Kilometers

[@ianrob4760]

hope Greggs pay you :-)

[@simplygregsterev]

@@ianrob4760 Finally someone caught on!

[@ianrob4760]

@@simplygregsterev ah no one from UK then :-)

[@simplygregsterev]

@ Apparently we just got Pret coffee here in Petrol stations 🤨

[@ianrob4760]

@@simplygregsterev ah posher then !!