Why nobody is buying the Cheapest EV... - Fiat 500e

[@SpoonSurvivor]

The only place piano black belongs on is a damn piano.

[@asaguda]

"Well, as you can see it's piano black and shiny, which means it collects dust from all over the known universe and will actually suck your fingerprints off from across the room. I hate piano black." - Ashens

[@MajykOyster666]

Looks damn fine on my drums.

[@Skylancer727]

Honestly think everything piano black is better. I hate matte materials, it feels terrible to the touch. Not to mention you still get grease stains on matte buttons and the matte material wears off if you use them a lot like the buttons on the steering wheel.

[@dewitnow1765]

​@Skylancer727 piano black gets fingerprints and grease stains the millisecond you touch it though. I've never seen piano black look good after any use.

[@seventeen9718]

@@dewitnow1765 Everyone acting as though their car is spotless all the time even if they didn't have it (piano black). The majority of the cars on the road are absolutely filthy

[@GarytheDean]

Cheapest EV around at only $34,000....wow, what a deal, no wonder people aren't buying it

[@General_M]

Which the Nissan Leaf is still cheaper, and has killer lease options. If anyone wanted a cheaper EV, I’d definitely point them towards a Leaf before I ever recommend a Fiat.

[@seventeen9718]

Yeah I just checked and $50K in australian dollary-doo's... That's crazy. I was expect like 25-30k max.

[@dontbestupid6664]

@@seventeen9718 Russel Brand is the only person I have heard who calls money that.

[@seventeen9718]

@@dontbestupid6664 Well I am an Englishman that emigrated to Australia so makes sense 😂😂

[@bigweka]

@@seventeen9718 Interesting, there was a big price drop for the 500e in New Zealand and I would have assumed Australia would have similar pricing. They're NZD$36,990 for the base model 500e Icon here.

[@sandorbence2067]

It's way too expensive for what it is. One of the major selling point of the old petrol 500 in Europe is that it's one of the cheapest car you can buy. Not the EV.

[@MillieMoses]

And the EV retains the cheapness in materials and build quality, making it a similar price to a more luxury oriented subcompact like the petrol MINI but significantly worse to own. EVs can’t be successful when you can get twice the car for the same price unless you REALLY want an EV specifically.

[@HertogLeo]

another major selling point of the 500 (ICE and EV) is that due to its size, it is ideal for driving and especially parking in old, tight European cities. This is yet another reason why the EV is a bad idea in NA...

[@akbg]

The new 500 has never been "cheap", that's the panda. The 500 is their "stylish", "cute", overpriced car - never understood how it has enjoyed the relative success it had

[@tryxxor]

@@HertogLeo but not every country in Europe has that narrow roads and streets, here in germany there arent that many cities a regular station wagon cant fit through, i never had a problem fitting a VW bus through Germany,Netherlands and Austria, many people i know that have a smaller car like that is because its cheap to get, often its just the second car for the wife to get things done with a station wagon or limousine as the main vehicle. one of my coworkers has a 500 Abarth, he got it because he got a good deal on it but he envious my other coworkers Audi A4 because it has much more space.

[@sandorbence2067]

@@akbg They are not cheap for what they are but one of the cheapest new cars, mainly rivaled by Dacia (definitely in the top 10 cheapest one for the previous gen). Though this is mainly because everyone else stopped making small cars. Plus you can dress up and price up a Yaris but you can't ask much for a Fiat, bottom of the barrel brand (at least in the last 10 years).

[@zushiba]

Ugh it's bullshit that $36 grand is considered "budget", fuck the auto industry. There is ZERO reason they should actually cost this much.

[@ganondorf66]

While they're trying to ban affordable cars

[@1ozcaffeine]

fr,china was guna be selling thos byrds over in states innit for like 15k but who knows

[@ablet85]

@@1ozcaffeinearen’t the hitting all Chinese cars with something like 50% tariffs?

[@blunderingfool]

@@1ozcaffeine Yes, because anyone who's sane will drive a car made out of 100% pure chineseium steel. (The most remarkably soft metal known to man!)

[@Erevos85]

@@blunderingfool the chinese automakers are making HUGE strides every year. If the EU and US manufacturers don't get their stuff together fast, they are going to get demolished in a few years.

[@Reed-Publications]

$37000 Canadian is the cheapest EV?! How expensive are the other EVs on the market?! 🤯

[@a00860512]

North of $40000

[@WelcomeToTheCBC]

This price is before all the rebates though. Would not be surprised if some states or provinces have incentives dropping it to about 20k

[@Petar120]

@@WelcomeToTheCBC lol governments are slowly removing all of that so in few years there won't be a single reason to buy EV only, hybrids on the other hand will be a great choice for city and highway driving

[@sevaeron]

@@WelcomeToTheCBC BC & Quebec have the best incentives for EVs, it's still gonna be around 30.

[@robertt9342]

Have you seen the prize of full-size pickup trucks?… doesn’t surprise me that it’s so expensive.

[@hueanao]

>Cheapest EV >Over 30k USD Now it makes sense why western manufacturers are so desperate to ban Chinese EVs. A BYD Dolphin Mini is better in every aspect, while costing half the price. Currently it is sold in Brazil, including the insane taxes from the Brazilian government, for 20k USD. Edit: Apparently in other countries, the Dolphin Mini is named Seagull.

[@asortdcookie]

It's about US$17k for a BYD Dolphin in Thailand. BYD. Instead of protecting existing brands, by banning new competition they encouraged BYD to open a factory here. Thailand, like Brazil has a significant auto manufacturing industry for export.

[@ms3862]

BYD, MG and GWM are all much cheaper than the Fiat and they are bigger, faster and have more range

[@ayoCC]

Better protect it now or regret it later. It will leave open the choice to fight or give up. China has been doing heavy protectionist policy since forever, it's probably going to become important to match that industrial policy

[@Not_Sure-i6o]

​@@ayoCCthe only thing they're trying to protect, are profit margins. 10k chinese EVs, rebranded and sold for 30k. Keeping the Chinese brands out let's them continue fixing prices

[@ayoCC]

@@Not_Sure-i6o partly true, the industry needs a wakeup call and keep up. At most the tariffs should equalize the subsidies that were poured into the product, and maybe also the labor costs.

[@JacobFramework]

Sorry to spoil the ending of the video, but it's because it's... Not very good. No range, slow charging, not very useful, and it's made by Stellantis who don't have a very good track record in terms of quality and comfort.

[@Sizukun1]

Could've shortened that spoiler as "Its a Fiat including Italian electrics". Everyone who knows cars will avoid it like the plague.

[@ArturoTabera]

basically the answer is in the title.

[@Deathstroke069]

In addition to that : tried to charge my phone with the QI Charger on the front.. it was heating my phone so up, that I almost exploded.. had the car for 2 years and it’s absolutely trash

[@MRBenchwork]

Never mind that it looks like a pug and a Volkswagen bug had a love child.

[@BanterEdits]

Wrong. It's just too expensive for what it is, that's all. Driving it is incredibly fun, the basics are all well done, it's small which is great and women love it. 227km range is definitely wrong. I regularly got 250 real-world km out of it, especially in the summer, while mainly driving on the highway. They sold the car here for over 30.000 Euros. That's twice the price of a bigger ICE vehicle. Fiat had to skip shifts in their factories because nobody is buying it at that price. I got to drive it for very cheap for a year and it's soooo fun. Little Go-Kart!

[@fatrobin72]

Over here in the UK, this isn't the cheapest EV (£21k base price). Instead, the cheapest car (not a road legal quadbike with roof) is the Dacia Spring (£14.5k base price)

[@mrmrmrcaf7801]

Which is actually a rebadged Chinese car Dongfeng EX1 and in reality should not cost more than 10k...

[@MarvinWestmaas]

@@mrmrmrcaf7801 You mean Renault City K-ZE right... but hey, let's hate on China even if we don't get the facts right.

[@ruekurei88]

@@MarvinWestmaas The Dongfeng EX1 should cost less than 10k in China.

[@MarvinWestmaas]

... the car these are based on is a Renault City K-ZE ... The Dongfeng being so cheap, yeah that happens when your government pays half the bill through subsidizing their companies. It has no direct relevance to quality, almost everything get's made in China even the good stuff. If you're stewpid enough to end up with crap, it's because you deserved it and didn't check who you did business with. BYOD might not be Mercedes... but all our public transport still uses them because they do the same job for cheaper. And they are better quality then Tesla's ffs, have you looked at one up close the panel gaps are atrocious and they still can't deliver features people paid for years ago. And yeah China might not always pay their workers a good wage, but I rather pay them then put money into some MAGGOT using it for political campaigns ( for a criminal ).

[@fadelpw511]

Good news! the Dacia Sandero i mean Spring is the cheapest EV in the UK, moving on

[@DeadlyDwarf]

lots of physical buttons is kinda of a luxury today lol

[@AndrewTSq]

Yeah, or analog dials, the new Bugatti has no visible lcd screens at all, all physical buttons and analog dials. That is luxery!. but its also a ~$4 million car :)

[@hamtaroyt]

I disagree, physical buttons are overrated.

[@AndrewTSq]

@@hamtaroyt yeah nothing beats trying to find the menu for seat heater when your butt is burning instead of just clicking the button. I like button, makes the interior not looking like you sit in a hospital waiting room

[@rekunan]

@@hamtaroyt does that mean you prefer a big touch screen then? and can i ask why if so?

[@navisoul-oi8mo]

@@hamtaroyt im sorry but having to take my eyes off the street to turn on the max lights on my Tesla is dangerous and should be banned. YOu know nothing of what you are talking about.

[@levpavlovski8060]

As a European, I find the N.American necessity to over-evaluate the number and quality of cup holders in every single car review HILARIOUS!

[@beargrylls4468]

You ever thought that if nearly every North American Stresses those things, that those things might be important to a North American Market? I recently bought an EV; and the numbers where pretty important to me for the real world use of my car.

[@Snerdles]

Then you get in a polestar and realize the front two people share a cup holder so you basically can't have passengers on trips.

[@gotmilk20091]

@@Snerdlesit was the same in my lexus. maybe this fits the european standard of not bringing drinks with them, while in the US we have the multiple stanley’s that needs places to go

[@Snerdles]

@@gotmilk20091 Could be. Maybe it's just a function of distance and the amount of time people spend in vehicles on trips. You can drive from Paris to Berlin in somewhere around 10 hours... It takes 20 hours to Drive from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada to Kenora, Ontario, Canada and that's just one province.

[@biendiego57]

I hate cars who dont have goods cupholders un Center AND Doors haha. I'm chilean

[@RalfMahlstedt]

The Fiat 500e was moderately successful in Europe a couple of years ago, but today there are much more compelling options at the same price point, it's just not competitive any more... people who still buy a 500e today mostly seem to buy it for its design.

[@TimGmbH1]

Not really if you are going for a used car. You can get the Fiat 500e for under 12k€. But if you're looking for new cars, I agree there are far better options.

[@guilledmartin]

The only 500es I’ve seen in the Netherlands are owned by car sharing companies. I have never seen a private individual leasing, buying or financing this car. Teslas, electric Volvos and now even BMWs are everywhere.

[@simonupton-millard]

​@@TimGmbH1here in the UK you can get Zoe ZE20s for 5k and ZE40s for under 8k all day they are much more practical than the 500e I have one could carry my famaly of 5 but unfortunately as we are a famaly of 6 am awaiting delivery of a 8 Seater EV Van

[@toyotaprius79]

Most sensible comment here

[@barongerhardt]

I don't get the design. Ditch the back seat and make it even smaller or a larger luggage hold; or make it a little bigger and ditch the luggage space for an actually useful back seat.

[@Triflixfilms]

$30k msrp is still too steep for an entry-level compact vehicle compared to gas alternatives. Maybe if it qualifies for a $5000-$7500 rebate...

[@pcmasterracetechgod5660]

2023 Chevy Bolt does qualify if you can get your hands on one, so they are just over $20k and are a more "legit" EV, sporting a 260 mile range

[@PomZZ_X3]

You can get the rebate for foreign EVs through a lease/buyout.

[@maximusasauluk7359]

The "being a failure" is because Fiat's primary market is Europe and this is very bad value compared to EVs already driving in European roads, including cheaper ones. I guess Fiat thought exporting to the US was a good idea, since Americans are already used to paying stupid prices for cars.

[@NeoAcario]

You can fit 6 LTT backpacks in the trunk. Unless you don't know how to stack a second row.

[@Chris_Rybowski]

Well if you're buying this car, you probably aren't very good at math.

[@flikflak24]

it cant fit 2 laundry baskets from ikea side by side or on top of each other if you have stuff in them ( i know. i tried )

[@flikflak24]

@@Chris_Rybowski its not math it legistic

[@jubuttib]

Hmm, probably would, but not 100% sure. Both the back of the seats and the opening come inwards at that point, i.e. the space gets a lot narrower as it goes up. 4 LTT backpacks absolutely, 6 I'm not entirely sure.

[@quinnhague2772]

You could probably fit 20 if they are empty

[@shinaikouka]

My thing about adaptive cruise is that there absolutely needs to be an option in cars to disable the adaptive feature. Most times, I just want the car to keep me at a certain speed and I'll handle everything else.

[@LChineze]

the current gen corolla hybrid has the option to set the traditional cruise control or adaptive cruise control, took me a couple months to figure it out

[@ThreeDee912]

⁠​⁠@@LChineze Same with Subaru. It’s not obvious that you can toggle between adaptive and regular cruise control but I think you can just hold the “increase distance” button for a while and then the adaptive part turns off. It’s in the manual somewhere but I haven’t felt the need to turn it off.

[@LChineze]

@@ThreeDee912 adaptive cruise control is great for single lane roads where passing is limited or not allowed.

[@andreatoffolo3488]

here in Italy this tipe of car is used because of the tiny roads. We have a tesla and one 500e, it's not a bad car for short range moving.

[@tali055]

I live in a larger city in Germany and have the 2023 500e and I love it. I always take continental US filmed EV range reviews with a grain of salt because distances are simply at different scales between there and central Europe. It's a great city driving car, the very low effort steering makes making a lot of tight turns a breeze. I also think it drives quite nicely, it's snappy and rides comfortably enough. I usually fast charge it around town and it gets to 80% within like 15 minutes.

[@tarekben5524]

Is not that tiny anymore tbh.

[@specodhec341]

I'm in Pisa right now and some of the streets here are so narrow you'll not be able to pass a human if you have anything bigger than a Fiat 500. I can definitely see the advantages But anywhere else this car does not make any sense

[@matty7834]

There's not much about it that can't be described as bad lol

[@yaush_]

Yah that’s good point. Large cars in Europe are so stressful to drive. This problem doesn’t exist in north amerixa

[@luca7069]

It's our italian version of the Honda E: very good looks, nice interior, decent tech for a small car, snappy performance and generally very good for tiny car standards. But the price it's just not competite when you take into account overall space, battery size and range. Here in Italy for about the same money you could get (also Stellantis made) e208 or CorsaE, which are more boring but are 4 door, much more space, more battery and range...and for about 20-30% more money you can get a base Model 3. Taken in a vacumm, it's a terrific car; but in the context of a competitive market, it's a tough sell.

[@AngryApple]

Stellantis is just plain stupid and is destroying the fiat and alfa brand. Not even Italians wants these. The worst why is the Alfa Junior (was supposed to be named Milano) build in Poland... Alfa from Poland yeah what

[@LAndrewsChannel]

And for 30-50% less money you get a Dacia Spring, slightly longer, half the performance, crappier interior but more practical and actual cheap for a new car.

[@AngryApple]

@@LAndrewsChannel Renault nocked it out of the park with the Renault 5 currently. When the 25K Version comes next year I dont know how any other smaller car can compete if they dont change the pricing. VW has nothing, Stellantis only has the Citroen eC3 which is an damn ugly car.

[@MrPaukann]

@@LAndrewsChannel, also Dacia is a lot less safe and maxes out at ~33 kW charging, while the 500e does ~80 kW. You can actually do road trips with the 42kWh Fiat, Dacia is a city car only.

[@MrPaukann]

Fiat 500e seems to be a lot cheaper both on their websites and on autoscout24.

[@bitmasked]

It's great for daily driving in Europe, but I'm shocked they thought it was a good idea in the North American market - especially Canada. To think they'd try this before bringing the Abarth models back is madness.

[@Reahreic]

now they can say, "see we tried, but nobody wants EV's..." That said, a lightly used Polestar 2 is an extremely good deal at current depreciation levels.

[@yaush_]

Living in the northeast there are a lot of people interested in small cars. Most people don’t travel more than ten or twenty miles in a day so it’s effectively a scooter with more space

[@jonevansauthor]

@@Reahreic a Polestar 2 is huge compared to this. It's like comparing a Playstation to a PC and arguing that the PS5 is better, despite needing to be able to do your email and web browsing. If you want a short car, you buy a short car. You cannot compare a knife and a sword and say the sword is better because you get more sword for your money. You can slice a loaf with it, but it's not any use for the job.

[@YOEL_44]

Wait a minute, you got this ѕнιԏѕԏαιη of a car but you don't even have the Abarth 500e or the restyling Abarth 500 that (I think) is still being produced...

[@bitmasked]

@@YOEL_44 yep the Abarth 500 / 595s are discontinued in Canada, it sucks. Don’t know about the Abarth 500e, I’ve seen them here on the British isles in dealerships… way overpriced for what it is.

[@CHPandVentures]

As a 2017 500e owner, I love just about everything about the 2024 model. Updated charger, bigger battery, better tech. The downside being you don’t get that much more range over the older models and it’s still over $30k. It’s the same reason I’ve avoided the Mini SE; I love my quick little go carts but for the price, as just about everyone says at this point “Just get a Tesla.” It’ll go far, you’ll always have a charger, and they’re fairly reliable especially for a car company younger than I am.

[@SinisterSlay1]

At least it's a car. Not a stupid SUV.

[@matty7834]

An SUV is a car though?

[@kindredong4581]

Too real

[@noobattempts]

What?

[@kindredong4581]

​​@@matty7834SUVs are classified as light trucks in 'murica so that they don't have to pass emissions testing

[@alexanderthegreat4103]

@@kindredong4581 sounds like your jealous NA has actual SUVs rather than little crossovers

[@mixeddrinks8100]

7-10 years ago the Fiat500e was going for 49 dollars a month lease in California, my friend had one was the best in city car for LA. He was able to charge it at work for free, and it was a tiny affordable car that is a perfect pairing for someone who rides a motorcycle, can fit both in the same parking space. The problem with the Fiat 500e is still the price.

[@s3rit661]

In Italy the price for the 500 and 500e is very low, for us they are the "first" car someone buys

[@massimodegrazia2192]

​@@s3rit661The 500e Is not cheap, stop lying, it starts tn 29-ish thousand euro. For the same price you can buy a much nicer car (golf mk8, Mazda 3, ecc). It's such a turd that the factory that makes it has worked only 8 days in the last 8 months. The same applies to the 500, a turd from 2008 (with barely any change) which, before the pandemic, you could buy easily "brand new" (km0) for 11-12 thousand euro but now you can't find under 17 thousand euro.

[@s3rit661]

@@massimodegrazia2192 Just checked, starts from 23K euro

[@cliffweinan3907]

Price competing in >$35k EV market with too much options, content in small car. Needs to compete in

[@hammerth1421]

That sound system's frequency curve is remarkable in the way it is bad. Normally, manufacturers try to overcompensate the weak bass performance of small, cheap drivers by cranking the sub bass in the DSP settings to make it feel bigger which creates a characteristic hole in the frequency region where bass actually lives outside of trap music. This thing somehow manages to be the exact opposite of that with over-cranked bass and weak sub bass.

[@dtibor5903]

It's more like cabin or door resonance, they can boost bass by 20-30 db but it sounds terrible. I have similar problem with my minival where i get a huge peak at 55Hz with any subwoofer

[@DanielW-x4v]

@@dtibor5903 With enough power I can DSP almost anything to sound decent. Almost.

[@mattBLACKpunk]

Why boost sub Bass with speakers that Don t extend below 50hz though?

[@dtibor5903]

@@mattBLACKpunk exactly, for small enclosed door speakers makes no sense. Usually you have to cut the frequencies a bit below resonance frequency otherwise the speaker will have too much excursion, will sound trash and it will destroy itself. Boosting the 50-100Hz range usually is good enough for a good listening experience for the average user.

[@Inbal_Feuchtwanger]

Premium audio is always the biggest rip off add-on you can get. What I can put in for $1k aftermarket will absolutely blow away what these dealerships put in for $5k. I literally dont understand how people fall for this crap. Purchase your car as close to base as you can find and do your own add-ons, its better and cheaper every time. Drive down to an audio place and get an actual audio setup with an Amp, some nice mids, and a sub. If you need undercoating you can get it done for like $100 and these clowns want $1k. If you want to get ripped off with an extended warranty at least get ripped off for like 1/4 the cost elsewhere. I dont know how people still let themselves get ripped off by this stuff with all of the information so easily available online.

[@adrianmalkovich7101]

I bought one. I love it. It's amazing to drive, plenty of space to carry stuff around, seats four in an emergency, goes far enough and charges fully at home in a reasonable amount of time, and it's small enough that you'll find a parking space in most places.

[@jamesengland7461]

Never have I ever not been able to fit into a parking spot because of the size of the car.

[@danielcicakdc]

@@jamesengland7461 Well, if you live in Europe, that’s an issue. The car is clearly more made for the European market.

[@Irvin_Wright]

Any new low range EV should come with 200-250kw charging. I wouldn't mind stopping every 100-150 miles to rest, if it was just a 10 minute stop. Plus, the lack of EV tax credits to purchase is a auto no

[@Mr7scout]

200-250kw is not possible for accu of 42kw because of the heat.

[@emiel255]

I think every EV should come with that. Just a standard EV charging speed on ALL EV’s just like when you gas up your car the pump goes with pretty much the same speed as any other pump

[@Irvin_Wright]

@@Mr7scout They need to make it possible lol

[@TimGmbH1]

The car is clearly not meant for long distance drives

[@BanterEdits]

@@Mr7scout ShenXing can do 4C charging. that'd be 160kw. Plenty enough for the size.

[@rollingtroll]

I'm baffled that 'under 8' is now the limit for 'not slow'. My car has a 10.8 0-100 and I never feel like I need more to smoothly join traffic wherever I am. I'd say anything under 15 is 'perfectly usable'. People have gotten weird with this.

[@jonevansauthor]

Yes, under 8 sounds really fast to me! But then I'm older and am used to small engine cars and I'm sure it's a coincidence, but I don't spend any time fretting about my trouser department size. ;)

[@pophilio]

Agreed, my car is 9,7s and its perfectly fine. My last car was around 6s and yes it made it easier but most of the times you are sitting behind someone slower anyways who is afraid to use their gas Pedal.

[@NGC1433]

@@pophilio Yep, sitting behind someone who thinks 11 seconds is fast... :D

[@rollingtroll]

@@pophilio Momentum and smooth driving are key. You don’t need a super fast car to keep up and stay out of peoples’ way

[@pophilio]

@@rollingtroll exactly, looking ahead and watching trafic behind you is key

[@BigCar2]

Really good car review. We need car reviews from tech people that focus on things that we care about.

[@B0TJERRYX]

Why would a tech person review a vehicle?? If you want a vehicle review. Go watch someone that reviews vehicles. 🤦. Awe man! I wish these tech people would review the new food that just came out. 🙄🙄

[@Perc1000]

$30,000 freedom eagles? Thats almost 3 Yugos adjusting for inflation, this isn't a cheap car.

[@tiedeman39]

In the us, for a new car, that's fairly cheap

[@ThatLaloBoy]

Sadly that's the current state of the US car market. All the cheap cars have died out (with the Kia Rio being the last cheap car under $20k MSRP, the Mitsubishi Mirage and Nissan Versa discontinued after 2024). Even a good Civic or Corolla is landing around $25k or more if you want a nicer one. In that aspect, $30k for an EV is still considered "cheap".

[@maximedaneau3397]

It gets no government subsidies in the U.S. because it's made in Italy. That's in part why it's so expensive.

[@jamesengland7461]

Isn't the Nissan Leaf cheaper?

[@hlonghi]

Here in Brazil we used to joke about the acronym FIAT and that it meant "Feito no Inferno para Andar na Terra" which roughly translates to "Made in Hell to Walk on Earth". I think they nailed it with the 500e. I'd rather risk my garage blowing up with a far cheaper GWM Ora 03 at 2/3 of the price.

[@Petar120]

I see them everywhere in the netherlands, so it's popular in countries that don't have 5x5km parking space for every store ever in the country

[@jonasbewersdorf6863]

34.000km on it in Europe. Super happy, not having the issue's, you're talking about and the range in summer is 300km and in winter more like 200km.

[@meiktranel1237]

I absolutely do not get any of the problems he's talking about. And to say that a car that leaves most sports cars 0-40 in the dust is slow is really quite something. BUT... The range is 260 - you don't have 300km in Summer. I really am suspicious about this whole review - it feels like they have the lower horse power version and they mixed up the stats. The steering comments do not match at all my experiences after 16 months - most people and reviewers in Europe call it a gocart because it's so snappy and tight.

[@danielcicakdc]

We have it too (also in Europe) and we are happy with it.

[@highks496]

"The only thing that this car has, is looking cool". Soooo, you're saying it's an Italian product. Got ya! 😂

[@SamLacy2010]

What's odd to me is how they messed it up so much - I have a 2016 500e - and that thing is fun! It's not fast, but they seemed to have let more torque in the low end come through. You can even break the tires free if you slam the pedal down from a stop without the ESC on.

[@mandmwaddle]

I have driven a couple dozen gen1 500e's. Quite a fun car to drive. This new 500e is a disappointment.

[@michaelmuller4140]

@@mandmwaddle How much experience do you have with the new 500e? It is far superior to the old one in every respect. OK, the space is only significantly better in the front seats.

[@martys9041]

You must have got a lemon. I've owned one of these for 8 months with 18k KMs on the clock and I haven't had any of those issues you mentioned. I'm in regional Australia and have the highest spec'd la Prima version. Awesome little car. Highway handling is best in class apart from the Yaris GR. Before buying I test drove a heap of small vehicles and I just chose the one that drove and the felt the best. Yes occasionally it's Italian but that's the wonder of owning an Italian car.

[@Die__Ene]

Same experience here (Europe). My mom was about to buy the red version a year ago, seeing this vid made me glad I convinced her to spend slightly more for a way bigger battery and open roof. Looks like the red version has a bunch more cost-cutting under the hood. Besides the awful (but perfectly usable for your average user) OS on the onboard computer I don't recognize any of his complaints in the non-red Fiat 500e. This review is a disservice to the 500e, but then it's probably Fiat's fault for offering the Red and making it look like it represents the 500e model minus some luxury features and battery capacity.

[@Fearmylogic]

hydraulic? Don't you mean they are pneumatic?

[@Zoyx]

There is a 2017 Fiat 500e for sale for only $6k US in my area. I suspect the range is only 50-60 miles.

[@adrianmalkovich7101]

My 2018 500e still has 100 miles range.

[@JesperWallerborg]

I had the Cabrio version for three years. Loved every day with it. The boot is even smaller but thanks to the retractable roof, you can fit huge stuff in the backseat (in non-rainy weather). No errors or mechanic failures. Average consumption from a little bit more than 40000kms was 15kwh/100km. Do not recognize the handling issues at all. Maybe they did some weird suspension adaptation for the US markets.

[@tali055]

I have the 2023 model (in the video is the 2024 model) and second what you're saying. I'm averaging 15kwh/100km and I think it rides very comfortably and is nice and snappy, a great city hopper

[@planefan082]

15 kWh/100km is pretty great. I average closer to 22 in mine! (Not a Fiat) Though it is 8 years old, so what can you expect lol

[@jonevansauthor]

The US does love extremely bad suspension that every European driver feels physically sick to encounter. They've been famous for it since before I was born so I'm sure you're right. They're also terrible drivers over there, and have insane numbers of deaths on their roads. Even worse than Germany and that's the black sheep of major European countries (for driving, not the other thing which isn't relevant).

[@tiagobelo4965]

​@@jonevansauthorI suspect that they likely put stiffer springs in it to compensate for the larger and heavier NA public, knowing what these fiats are like, even a 65kg person makes the car visibly lower itself, so a 500 full of 90+kg americans would likely bottom out too much. In all that they likely kept the european spec dampers as a cost cutting measure

[@sersjantma]

Same. Can't relate to anything of the bad stuff he talks about. Weird behavior of the infotainment? Nope. Too small rear seats? It's a small city car, why do he expect the rear space of a Toyota in the C-segment? Shaking at 100 or more? Never heard of. Have done 150 (VMAX) several times with no worry. Having to press the start button twice? Why don’t he read the manual and see rhat he can just hold it down? Like any other modern car from Stellantis. Double shake over a tiny speedbump? No shit, Sherlock. The tiny car makes the rear jump almost immediately after the front axle gets over it. It’s a consecuence of tiny cars. Too expensive? That's just and exuse for being poor. Why do people buy expencive Audis, when they can get the very same car for half price from Skoda? It sounds like he doesn't know what he's driving and the purpose of it, and then compare it to his favourite pickup truck stereotypical oversized american SUV 😂

[@FluffyArcheops]

Stellantis really thought they could solely sell it based on design… here in Europe, when this came out, there were already simultaneously cheaper, bigger and longer ranged alternatives available. I have a 2016 Renault Zoe (41 kWh battery), which has more space, more doors and can realistically do around 300 km… Stellantis completely dropping the ball is just normal.

[@jonevansauthor]

Bigger tells me you missed the point of driving entirely. If you want a bigger car, that's fine, but don't compare small cars to big cars and then claim bigger is better. That makes no sense. It's like saying I could get a 4090 for the PC I use for Office and web browsing. Makes zero sense as an argument.

[@FluffyArcheops]

@@jonevansauthor They’re not bigger by any significant margin. I should have specified, but I’m talking about cars that are equivalent in size to a VW Polo/Ford Fiesta. 5-Door superminis that have at least enough room to fit rear (adult) passengers, even if just for shorter journeys. Stellantis themselves has such offerings available in the form of the Peugeot e-208 and Opel Corsa E, again for a lower price. They’ve set the 500e up to fail in a sector they have helped to create.

[@Ted_Kenzoku]

@@jonevansauthor if you can get the 4090 for the same price as a basic office pc you would get it

[@michaelmuller4140]

@@FluffyArcheops Doomed to fail? Sales figures in Germany in September: Zoe 11(!), Peugeot e-208 134, Opel Corsa-e 218 and Fiat 500e 758. And that was a bad month for the 500e. In August there were 1,234 pieces. This put the 500e in the top 5 BEVs in Germany. In recent years the 500e has even led the sales figures in some cases. Before Tesla M3 and MY.

[@FluffyArcheops]

@@michaelmuller4140 Wow, that’s quite a surprise! Here in Ireland, it’s definitely nowhere near as popular (goes the the corsa e too), especially when options like the MG4 are around. Don’t think the Zoe figures mean much there though, since it’s no longer in production. With larger urban environments in Germany, the 500e definitely makes more sense in Germany compared to here… and I’d assume there’s better road surfaces too 😅

[@skellett1]

6:20 I have that car and -the reason for that is they try to ensure you don't "forget" to put your seatbelt on.- {my experience has been if} you wear your seatbelt & press the break when pressing the button for the first time then it will immediatly be ready to drive off. {Edited part}* I was made aware that he is wearing a seatbelt. My answer does not entirely apply though at least that's where I have noticed the same behaviour from the car.

[@Connor-s1k]

You can see him wearing his seatbelt whilst he shows it not working

[@skellett1]

Oh you're right, appearently overlooked that. Nevertheless at least in my experience it has been consistent the way I described it @@Connor-s1k

[@icannotbeseen]

It’s random for me, in my experience it’s more likely to turn on immediately if I don’t have the seatbelt on yet (but not 100%)

[@wolfgangkoeppen52]

As someone who has a 2012 500 sport (in manual), I love that the 500 isn't dead, loving the styling update and the needed interior updates. But Fiat 100% missed the mark with pricing and the really odd downgrades from what was standard on the previous 500 (like four wheel disk brakes were standard) Adjusted for inflation, my car (sport package, leather interior, BOSE, power sunroof, upgraded climate controls, spare tire, special color) was 29k USD. and I get 340 miles to a tank, with 110hp out of the 1.4. It's fun to huck around, its slow but has a really fun motor, the 5 speed is as about as nice as a cable shifter is (i hope a kit like Acuity comes out) I put koni yellows, a short shifter, chassis braces and for the hell of it a intake, it's my favorite car to ever drive. Oh, and it had a dedicated sport button that changed the throttle response and made the power steering heavier. The only reason id look at one is an ICE with a manual comes out tbh

[@tiagobelo4965]

funnily enough the fiat panda had the opposite button, city steering, which would make the steering so light I swear its only used for parking or by people who are currently injured and need to reduce strain

[@leifarnemo6443]

@@tiagobelo4965 Yup, I had a Fiat hire car on holiday around 2008.. The steering settings were little finger (normal) or breathing on the wheel (city). Honestly with such small light cars I would prefer the option to turn off the assistance altogether and maybe (but unlikely) turn it back on if I needed to parallel park.

[@djmorris666]

A typical shortcircuit fortunately. We pretend we are not doing a test, have not really a clue about what we are trying (and driving) and then we pretend to care about ONE function and call up the hotline to show that we cared… just love it

[@LightningMcQueen-rc3mh]

What would you change or add to the video?

[@djmorris666]

@@LightningMcQueen-rc3mh well, for starters you need to set the stage what a 500 is and who the target audience is. And then you review it with that lense. This way you come to the conclusion that is a good car for the city and as a second car. You can then still say that acceleration is not great etc etc. But doing it like this, is only provocative and probably aimed at generating clicks: complaining about size, acceleration range etc. Sure, we all would want a car that is small, but has enough space for rear passengers, 0-60 in 3 seconds and a range comparable to a Tesla ;) Ahh, and not to forget, also not entirely fair to compare the price to the price of USED cars

[@MarcSpctr]

The cheapest EV here in India costs around $15k. Considering tech products as well as cars costs almost double as compared to US here. I think it is quite good. (example: 4090 that costs $1700, costs around $2700 here (sometimes can go upto $3500). And iPhone 16 Pro Max which starts at $1200 costs around $1800 here). Not to mention cars generally costs almost double the price if not completely manufactures here. And considering batteries still need to be imported, this price feels better. not to mention it pays for itself with fuel savings within like 5 years. So, even if we need to change the battery after the warranty (which realistically you don't need to), it still is beneficial, economically to get EV.

[@randallhudson182]

My 500 Abarth is a fun peppy little thing, its a shame that they neutered the performance that EV can give you and still not be all that cheap.

[@Eatfreshguy407]

It’s all about price. I have a 2015 500 pop that I bought as a leftover for $12k OTD. I’ve loved it. . . For the price. It drives rough, has no tech, is loud and small, but has performed 90k+ miles with great gas mileage and little maintenance aside from a clutch cable replacement. 10 years later the car is still the same form, but they’ve added a bunch of useless ‘features’ and poorly optimized tech, but they’ve tripled the price. I could forgive the small battery and rough ride, but you can’t cheap out on every option and still charge as much as almost every competitor. This should be $20k-$25k before rebates.

[@Validole]

I feel for you guys, if the 500e is your cheapest EV... "I have nothing against a low range, cheap EV" - well, the problem with that is that there are higher range models for cheaper on the market, just not your market. 😐

[@amyloriley]

I have the Fiat 500e here in cozy Belgium. The trick with the start button is, you have to hold the start button a bit longer. Not quite a full second, but longer than a tap.

[@icannotbeseen]

Thank you I have to try that

[@sunsinger970]

I find the Fiat500 very interesting but the higher performance has options in a tiny fwd car was what made it cool. An EV with nothing but cheapness to make it worthwhile will never compete in the US especially when the ChevyBolt is going to come back.

[@tiagobelo4965]

supposedly the abarth is returning, hopefully with less of a price difference than between the old ICE ones

[@alsavage1]

We had TACC on our Infiniti M35 . . . in 2006! A car old enough to use a CD drive for the nav system's maps. TACC's been around a lot longer than ten years.

[@brianmccullough4578]

Adaptive cruise usually has expensive ($3-5k sensors in the front) that’s why it doesn’t have it! I replace them all the time at the dealer I work at. Not dodge/fiat tho

[@dittocopys]

6 feet 2 in a compact; no slack but luckily the seats go back hes got a knack to relax in his mind sipping some red red wine

[@Guyver02USA]

- 0:21 , makes me wanna pinch it . 😂

[@Eric_Canned_Tuna]

My wife has one and it is great in almost every department. It lacks a little bit of modern tech but it is only intended to be a city run around and it honestly fits the bill. It is not a family car by any stretch of Italian creative imagination but if you are single, just want to get around town, you and a friend would be very comfortable and will reliably get from home to the shopping mall, work or wherever you want to go. For families, I recommend anything but this car. By the way, I am a car guy and a big joie de vivre when it comes to driving. Many of the negatives raised in this review, are somewhat fair, but this is a cheap EV after all, so you really get what you pay for. The Fiat 500e has been with us for 5 years and thus far, it has served it's purpose of city/work runaround very well. 😁😁😁

[@debiancool]

I think it's important to note that in north America, the 500e is a compliance car - it exists because they HAVE to sell electric vehicles in places like California. Given the profitability of the car, they don't actually want you to buy one - and it makes sense: if you drive short distances/rarely, are single/a couple, and thus actually fit in the 500 buyer category, you should just get an old top-trim petrol one (leather interior, good speakers, etc). The only reason to get EV is to feel good about yourself, the additional emissions of a new car far offset the EV savings, at least in Europe repairs are cheap and details don't cost that much. Petrol will be better in almost every way, mileage is great, and you don't need a garage/charging area.

[@Wooble57]

"The only reason to get EV is to feel good about yourself" The depends on your situation really. I save 250$\mo by having a EV, that goes a long way to making it affordable, hell, for me i'd even consider it cheap. My "charging" area is my driveway, it takes me 5 seconds to plug in when I get home and I never have to go fill up. Repairs aren't cheap where I live, unless I do them myself. That's worth another 50$ a month easy (600$\year for brake and engine related repairs\maintenance) This is about what I pay for charging, so you could call this a wash I suppose. Rather than looking at sticker price, which isn't what I or most people pay, let's look at my monthly payment. 550/mo for this EV, but i'm saving at least 250/mo, so at the end of the day i'm paying about 300\mo. If I took that same 300\mo to put towards a car my budget would be about 20k, at this point my options are a kia rio, or a mitsubishi mirage and that's it.

[@debiancool]

@@Wooble57 Sorry if I was unclear, I meant EV is a feel-good solution for FIAT 500 owners - not in general. For larger cars, and people that drive a lot more, it can make total sense. But from experience, I can tell you that while I love the 500, it is not an ideal car to be in 4-5 hours a day, it's a runabout (designed around tight european parking/roads and shorter drives). If you do drive a lot with a 500, good for you, but just know that's not a common usecase (also im not sure how you'd do that with its range)

[@Wooble57]

@@debiancool ah, understood. I think this car could make sense for some people.....but not at it's current price, it would have to be a LOT cheaper.

[@debiancool]

@@Wooble57 agreed. would have to eb around 15-20k max, which will never happen - which is why i suggest a petrol used high-trim one instead. cheers!

[@safetinspector2]

Last car I had with a highway shake right out the factory was a 1993 Mercury Topaz which at least had the excuse that it was burdened with a three speed auto without overdrive

[@Ricko1Games]

2:28 that's not a level 2 charger. It's a standard socket one meaning 1500W max = 28 hours of charging to fill 42kwh. Level 1 = normal outlet. Can take days to fully charge for big batteries. Level 2 = dedicated high power circuit. Part of the house or roadside public charger. Over night completely full. Level 3 = fast charger found on highways. Less then an hour to fill completely. I'm an electrician that has installed level 2 chargers.

[@MrNicoJac]

This is a very useful overview, thanks!

[@Hidyman]

Actually, it is a level 2 charger, check the Fiat website. 48 Amps at 240 Volts.

[@coreysuffield]

difficult to tell from the angle, it would likely plug into a dryer outlet at 240volts.

[@icannotbeseen]

I don’t know anything about electronics but I do know mine is full from 50% in 1.5 hours or so at the fast charging stations…

[@PraetorBeast]

Highway cruising on the 500, 500e and Panda tend to be floaty and unstable above 110 Kph. They just softened the suspension and increase ride height compared to older models like the regular non "Hybrid" Panda and 500.

[@tiagobelo4965]

yeah, the panda also did tend to get somewhat loud on the highway, even the diesel models, though that's sorta to be expected when you take a city car on a highway

[@PraetorBeast]

I must say, I have a 2003 Panda. On the highway is much more stable and quieter than new models.

[@MrTVintro]

Something I'd love to know. Why can't we just get regular car, but EV. Why must it ALSO get wannabe Cyberpunk styling?

[@_B.C_]

He explains in the video that they sell the power train separately if you’re looking to do an ev conversion.

[@tryxxor]

to boost efficiency, making the body as streamlined and aerodynamic as possible is very important because wind resistance will kill your range, sometimes just getting different rims that aren't aerodynamic can reduce range by up to 10% just from the wind resistance.

[@awmosoft]

There is another car which based on the Fiat500e. Could also test drive the Abarth 500e. It has 154 HP instead of 120 HP. It also has a speaker under the car for engine sound😀

[@sunsinger970]

The 500e doesn't sell in the US because The ChevyBolt exists in the exact same price class and for barely more money you can get a PriusV with AWD.

[@vhol93]

I had Android Auto set as "right driver seat" so that reachability would not-suck-that-much

[@SpinnerSpite]

It’s not the cheapest ev. The cheapest EV is the Dacia spring

[@hilmyakatsuki1665]

Nice, now we can have audio frequency response graphs 😅 Maybe upload those to auto EQ so that we can PEQ those?

[@mcst6969]

17" rims for such a small car?! It should be 13" max 14! Also so small car for 'mericans?! It's not going to sell!

[@tiagobelo4965]

13 to 14 would be difficult to get tires for these days, and the wheels themselves are quite big in general do agree though, this and many other cars would really benefit from less rim and more sidewall

[@VajraangKamat]

10:25 I think what you're pointing out is that the car is oversprung and underdamped. The springs are stiff which makes the ride stiff but the dampers are not strong enough to dissipate the oscillations. Weird that fiat missed their suspensions 101 class considering how good some of the other cars in their line up like the 500 Abarth are.

[@toecutterjenkins]

A lot of car manufacturers hide adaptive cruise behind the top trim package.

[@willmorton6800]

Adaptive cruise control was a MUST on my latest vehicle. It's a game changer in the crappy Vancouver traffic.

[@breadcat0314]

Someone tell Tyler from Hoovies Gara- oh no he bought one 2 months ago

[@BanterEdits]

Completely different car. The Car Wizard 500e is on the converted ICE platform. This is bespoke.

[@breadcat0314]

@@BanterEditsYea I am aware, just couldn't help but compare that they've always been poor EVs

[@Neutrinum]

The design is on point. For a small car it really looks nice and timeless but as other people said...35.000$ is double the price it should be!

[@babblingSponge]

"Wrapped in 205 tires"... Dude, people don't care about the width of the tires only... What's the brand? Model? Speed-Rating? Those are the actual things that matter. 205 doesn't even tell us the width of the wheels, there are a few sizes that accept a 205 tire.

[@danielkoontz6732]

I thought the title was wrong. The Chevy Bolt WAS the cheapest. They've been discontinued for now as the Bolt is switching to the Ultium platform (name of the elctric powertrain for general motors vehicles.) Cheapest I saw sold when I was working at a Chevy dealer was just under 22k US. Brand new. That also wasn't sitting on the lot. Anytime someone wanted one, they had to be special ordered.

[@Sizukun1]

Is it a possibility of having multiple hosts driving the same car for 1000+ miles as a road trip and documenting their thoughts on the car?

[@chenseanxy]

Yes, and if it happens it'll be called TopGear Canada

[@SXcite]

got it with 42kw battery in france and it s so good going to work with it is a delight

[@CricketEngland]

Surely the Nissan Leaf is the cheapest EV on the market today?

[@KahlDragonborn]

Alex you need to let everyone know we need these reviews quicker, they're now easily some of my favorite videos! Great job everyone! I have a Alfa romeo guilet and it's fairly different than this but I think they're both owned by Fiat so idk.

[@iMoha46]

because who wants to spend their money on a toy car for kids

[@DainiusB2]

You should be looking for the Renault 5 EV. A remastered classic. Though according to reports it won't be sold in North America.

[@lynxlecher9547]

Why bother?

[@guessundheit6494]

2:40 - Small back seats only matter to breeders. For Childfree people, that car is perfect.

[@2727daqwid]

11:03 to be fair, I don't think fiat thought this car will ever be used outside of a city. Highway is a last resort for it, it's made for Italian narrow roads lol

[@thiesp4285]

We have one, in germany. And they sell fuckloads because no one of the other manufactureres make something that is not battleshipsized

[@pb730c3]

14:43 He said it!

[@Highspeedfutzi]

1:13 this is honestly the most exciting thing about it.

[@azenyr]

The cheapest EV is not this one, not even close. This is extemely expensive, its basically the same price as a tesla model 3 in Europe... In Europe the cheapest is the Dacia Spring, which is actualy cheap and surprisingly usable

[@davematteo2076]

Give me an actually well made Abarth version of this and it would basically be the perfect car for my needs

[@miguela7433]

Production has been put on hold. Get one while you can if it is your kind of thing. I have used them in short rentals and they are nice to drive.

[@A_Handle_2_Continue]

7.9 compares VERY favorable to the original 2 cylinder Fiat 500 which was 0-60 in an hour and a half on a very flat road which is very rare in the place I once lived. Thanks again to Linus for more great content!

[@davidheidrich3676]

Regarding the start button, you have to keep the button pressed until the chime sounds. You get used to that after a few times. (I owned the car for some time)

[@MarcusfotosDe]

When I was asked by my company what I want my company car to as features I hat on item on the list: adaptive cruise control. So I totally agree with Alex on that one. Gamechanger if you drive a lot like I do

[@theyruinedyoutubeagain]

I had this for about 8 months and I loved it, it's absolutely adorable

[@_Magnuss_]

I love the headlights it looks like a small angry cartoon character 😂

[@pizzamann95]

I really miss driving my 500T. It was loud, it was stiff, but it handled corners like it was on rails.

[@JordanFayter]

One thing people in Canada forget about when looking at EV's is the fact we live in Canada and our winters. If you want an EV in Canada you're best to go with a Hybrid vehicle. Don't get me wrong I like EV's along with other vehicles working on reliable or alternate sources of energy but we have a long way until the traditional gas or diesel engine will be outdated and no use to us anymore. I've been looking at producing homemade diesel or looking at running vehicles from homemade fuel. I probably won't do it but it's something I've been doing some research into.

[@jamesesdaile4696]

I had access to a 2015 version of this living in San Francisco, and honestly it was the perfect weapon for loading up 4 people like a clown car and fitting into parking spots only a smart car or a motorcycle could fit. If I don’t have size constraints like that in your area it would make no sense to own, but if you do it’s awesome

[@joytech23]

In Australia, our cheapest EV at this time is the GWM Ora from $34,000 on-road (or CAD $31,600). The Fiat 500e sells USED here for $39,000 AUD. Brand new, it is $50,000 which is insanely dumb for a car with no competitive advantage. In our market, it simply makes more sense to buy a hybrid - something like a Toyota Corolla/Yaris or Suzuki Swift. If you need something larger, an MG MG3 Hybrid, Camry Hybrid, Haval Jolion etc... We are honestly really spoiled for choice in Australia, so when manufacturers do something dumb, they are instantly punished with the "did something stupid" stick. Stellantis (Chrysler, Jeep) got beat with that stick hard for their pricing, and then they were forced to eat the stick.

[@MandicReally]

The steering effort has always been an issue with Fiat 500s. I had one back in 2013. It was a “Sport” model which I used Sport Mode on all the time as it increased the steering effort. The standard steering was wayyyy too light. On the highway it was almost scary to me.

[@Geo255420]

That is a cool looking engine compartment. EV's are very neat.

[@williamchow1403]

In my opinion, most people buy this car more for its cool factor than anything else. I was torn between this one (we got the Inspired by Beauty) and the Ioniq 5, and at one point, a dealer even offered me a Kona with half the monthly payment and more annual mileage to try and get me to lease it. But after some comparison, we ultimately chose the Fiat simply because it looks cool and fun to drive. Since getting it last week, we’ve had several people approach us in parking lots to ask about it. That being said, the price is on the higher side, but it’s a great car. If you can swing it, definitely go for the higher trim level!

[@sebastiane7556]

Nobody is buying it? Here in Germany this is one of the most frequent cars I see.

[@Phushywillow]

I really enjoy your reviews. Thank you for putting the amount of effort and time that you and your team puts into each of the videos you produce. You make it fun, but also easy to understand what you are talking about, while also imparting your own opinions without too much snark. Keep up the good work!

[@itmkoeln]

I was in the market for a used EV. I ended up chosing a 4,5 year old Renault Zoé Phase 2 R110 ZE 50 (50kWh battery) with an Android Auto and Carplay compatible radio. I considered the Stelantis offerings. Test drove the Peugeot 208e and the FIAT 500e. The Renault Zoé Phase 2 (which in NA is I believe sold as the Nissan Leaf Mk 2) has a much better ride quality. And I was able to buy it for 9,200€ of the lot (including new service and TÜV)

[@dadegroot]

In Australia, the only trim level available is the La Prima. It has all the bells and whistles that Fiat offers, and was actually pretty fun to drive (no shake on the highway for starters). However, later that day I drove a 2024 Mini Cooper SE, and well, that''s where my money went even though it was $14k more expensive.

[@Albertomor4321]

Im so glad here in Mexico we have BYD brand, cheapest ev from just 17500 usd dollars for 300km range

[@mcdavta]

Alex’ car videos are my favorite in this channel by far! Keep it up!