2024 Giant Defy vs Canyon Endurace vs Lauf Uthald - Which Road Bike Is The Ultimate Mile Muncher?

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@treyquattro
@treyquattro 11 ай бұрын
Jamie's a great asset for the channel IMHO. Looking forward to that Dogma comparo. Meanwhile I'll take the Endurace thanks.
@CyclingAlgarvePortugal
@CyclingAlgarvePortugal 11 ай бұрын
And I'm still riding my 2013 Bianchi infinito 😁
@harlanpepper489
@harlanpepper489 8 ай бұрын
Still rocking a 1999 trek 5200 with a quill stem here sooo…
@Penalist
@Penalist 7 ай бұрын
12kg, 1932 steel bike with no derailleur and wooden tyres. Beat that you posh rich people.
@NisseOhlsen
@NisseOhlsen Ай бұрын
So it's not yet a Bianchi Finito?
@ncsteinb
@ncsteinb 11 ай бұрын
I own a Giant Defy. I really like it.
@DrivenDynamicsTV
@DrivenDynamicsTV Ай бұрын
Can you take it on light gravel without issue?
@richjacques
@richjacques 11 ай бұрын
Defy vs Pinarello X please! (these 2 are topping my wish list, but I've yet to see any direct comparison reviews)
@zaratar
@zaratar 9 ай бұрын
"Of course, all these clever features and gimmicks are absolutely worthless if your bike then handles like a half eaten toffee." 🤣 I am dead. This is A++ commentary.
@spdaltid
@spdaltid 8 ай бұрын
The Lauf has me sold with the external cables. I've owned/ridden earlier incarnations of the other two. They were nice bikes.
@lenolenoleno
@lenolenoleno 21 күн бұрын
The Uthald is certainly the best designed by far. Making an endurance road bike which mitigates the biggest drawbacks of them (that they feel sluggish vs. a full on race bike) by having a proper short 410mm chainstay while still having clearance for 35mm tyres (the ideal tyre clearance as the fastest tyres like Schwalbe Pro One, Conti GP 5000 and Pirelli P Zero or Vittoria Corsa) are all now availiable in 34-35mm tyres).
@BTcycle
@BTcycle 11 ай бұрын
I like how the Canyon Endurace looks but not a fan of the storage box at the top tube. If I want storage there, I'll get a top tube bag.
@SrFederico
@SrFederico 11 ай бұрын
I wonder why they put it there. Very little storage capacity up there. And that ugly door is on the part of the bike you are looking at the whole time.
@brasstinmancrazy
@brasstinmancrazy 11 ай бұрын
So bizarre they put it on the top tube when the down tube is the bigger better option. Weird...
@a1white
@a1white 11 ай бұрын
It looks cheap and nasty I don’t want holes with plastic covers in my frame.
@BrakeMagazine
@BrakeMagazine 11 ай бұрын
I think it's a pretty cool idea personally. @@a1white
@eivinj
@eivinj 5 ай бұрын
@@brasstinmancrazythey couldnt copy trek 😅
@markbyrne7598
@markbyrne7598 11 ай бұрын
I had a brand new 2020 defy 105 in gun smoke grey and orange that looked stunning. It was comfortable but heavy, 9.7 kg roughly and slow. Something your dad gets out of the shed every Sunday for a spin. Everyone raved about the canyon endurance bikes so I bought a 2nd hand one. 2015 cf 10 rim 105 at 7.7kg. It's a rocket, far more comfortable, exciting and faster than the defy. A much better bike and the rim brakes are fine. They still stop me and are easier to maintain. I will never sell it. The best way to describe a canyon endurance is that its a race bike in endurance clothing.
@robanderson251
@robanderson251 10 ай бұрын
i love my Lauf Seigla and at first glance the Ulthad looks very similar to the Seigla, with the obvious difference, the lack of the True Grit fork. I did even consider running a set of road tyres on my Seigla as i thought it may be a good long distance ride, based on how comfortable it is - it looks like someone at Lauf has had the same idea. Based on how good i think the Seigla is and how enjoyable it is to ride and the value for money, I would definitely be going for the Ulthad
@petersouthernboy6327
@petersouthernboy6327 4 ай бұрын
I have a road wheelset built for my Giant Revolt and it’s been a great move. I’m running 700x35 GP 5000 AS TR’s on the road wheels and 47mm Pathfinder Pro’s on the gravel rims.
@mohamadjamil3164
@mohamadjamil3164 11 ай бұрын
You are doing a very good job comparing bikes. More please :)))
@abcdefg8134
@abcdefg8134 11 ай бұрын
Haven’t ridden any of them but that endurace seat tube looks strange, i much prefer the older model visually. On the other hand the defy looks much better than previous model. I’m sure they all ride ok
@ptonewood
@ptonewood 11 ай бұрын
aaaand the value here in the U.S. I’d choose Lauf. Lastly, I really don’t care for these internal storage bits and bobs. I feel like that cover would just snap eventually, and when I’m washing the bike water will get in. If I need to grab a tool I don’t want to fuss with that small compartment, especially with cold hands.
@dougbailey7919
@dougbailey7919 6 ай бұрын
Just bought the Canyon CFR, feels fast to me!
@mitchlabrador
@mitchlabrador 11 ай бұрын
I’d like to hear more about the Lauf
@a1white
@a1white 11 ай бұрын
Nice reviews. That plasticky looking compartment thing on the Canyon looks like it will break or get lost/nicked in no time. As an endurance bike I’d prefer mudguard mount options, shame the lauf doesn’t have them, as it’s much better value and I prefer the non fully integrated cabling (especially after chatting with my local bike shop and the extra work (and therefore cost) involved with servicing them.
@toshman696969
@toshman696969 11 ай бұрын
i hear this often about integrated cabling, how many times do people service their cables. having multiple bikes at most i can remember is my 2011 p4 tt cables snapped and had to be rewired in 20+ years of riding that is one instance where i had a cable issue. maybe i am lucky but my tune ups usually involve wash, change of breakpads and chain and that is about it. maybe i am lucky.
@a1white
@a1white 11 ай бұрын
@@toshman696969 yes normally gear cables need replacing every few years.
@markehrlich7534
@markehrlich7534 10 ай бұрын
Yes, you are lucky🍀 Usually on newer bikes it should be redone every few years, will start affecting your shifting. Why anyone would get headtube thru routed cables(Vanity,..looking pretty😍 for the guys in the bike club!😂) that are a pain/expensive to service is beyond me. Always thought downtube/toptube internals was Futurama enough. Anyway, also funny🤣 how older, "crappier" steel frame bikes with cheaper components seem to need way less care... My 90's Hard Rock MTB is the ultimate commuter/ATB(except for technical trails) and all I ever have to do is grease and adjust, like twice a year if I ride it a lot(5k/yr)... Have newer bikes, but that old steel rolls nice🙂 just wish it was a little lighter!
@aidanmasterson50
@aidanmasterson50 11 ай бұрын
Previous model Endurace was a flier and weight less at 7 to 7.1kg. Bought an S-Works Aethos, but couldn’t let the Endurace go, loved it too much. (Clinical… absolutely not, short wheel base and rack makes it feel very racy). Have to older model Defy. Very comfortable but a brick. Slowest bike I’ve owned. That new one looks streets ahead though. Probably about the best improvement in an evolved model ever. Looks matter. If you walk past a good looking bike, it’s more likely you’ll get on it. Not sure I’d pick the Lauf up much despite it probably being a great bike.
@petersouthernboy6327
@petersouthernboy6327 9 ай бұрын
Canyon and Lauf are Chinese frames; Giant is made in Taiwan.
@aidanmasterson50
@aidanmasterson50 9 ай бұрын
@@petersouthernboy6327 I know that
@toshman696969
@toshman696969 11 ай бұрын
as said stack / reach is the most important figures sure defy might be nice, but if i want to endurance bike i am going for either canyon or the endurance, the defy has literally the lowest on similar size and i would put it near race gravel bike category. for same size defy stack is 577 vs endurance 590 vs uthald 593, i mean if i want a semi race bike i'll just go all out. i want full comfort so i can ride 80-100 miler with no back pain.
@jaybikes99
@jaybikes99 11 ай бұрын
The lauf paint job let’s it down, I’m disappointed that the canyon didn’t perform better as I think it looks the best
@iamnicoalfonso
@iamnicoalfonso 11 ай бұрын
Their purple or blue frames do look amazing tho.
@petersouthernboy6327
@petersouthernboy6327 4 ай бұрын
The Lauf Blue is stunning to me.
@scottk8769
@scottk8769 11 ай бұрын
I like the weight of the Defy but can't get past the proprietary post, stem and internal routing. Hoping Lauf starts selling the Uthald as a frameset soon.
@petersouthernboy6327
@petersouthernboy6327 9 ай бұрын
The post is fantastic
@Z-u-m-a
@Z-u-m-a 11 ай бұрын
Solid review.
@ptonewood
@ptonewood 11 ай бұрын
I’m a hair under 183cm, so I’d be interested in the Lauf M for a more aggressive fit…however more seat post would mean even slacker seat tube angle and I’m used to track bikes. The one thing I don’t like about my gravel bike is how slack it is. Still, I’d love to try it. I’m not racing cross anymore.
@ptonewood
@ptonewood 11 ай бұрын
Also, I do really like that the Lauf comes with 27.2 seatpost and standard stem without internal routing. I have loads of stems/bars I can throw on easily.
@NyleRaps
@NyleRaps 5 күн бұрын
"With my trusty stick!" 🤣 Very scientific
@stevenkates4876
@stevenkates4876 4 ай бұрын
Love the Lauf and have the ENVE Melee and MOG
@chilllisten6459
@chilllisten6459 10 ай бұрын
giant is the best for me thus far
@petersouthernboy6327
@petersouthernboy6327 4 ай бұрын
Agreed.
@red00tl
@red00tl 11 ай бұрын
I'm dying to hear what Lauf said about the other two bikes, lol 🤣
@ThorDyrden
@ThorDyrden 7 ай бұрын
I know, which bike Dr. Who would choose 😁 as "Lauf" literally means "Run!"
@ChrisAcheson
@ChrisAcheson 5 ай бұрын
Aluminum frames like the Canyon Endurace AL is better for the buck.
@petersouthernboy6327
@petersouthernboy6327 4 ай бұрын
The Lauf Uthald frame price is at an aluminum price point.
@josie_1
@josie_1 11 ай бұрын
Cervélo Caledonia 5 is the best endurance bike I have tried to date.
@fredericpressel1611
@fredericpressel1611 11 ай бұрын
Change the Seatpost from the Canyon Model and you come down to approx. 7.2 kg in the same range like the Defy is
@maumustermann4706
@maumustermann4706 5 ай бұрын
Whatch out about the terrible after sale service from Canyon. Especially after 3 years of owning your bike. If yo need a major spare part as a fork, just after this period of time. Canyon will refuse to sell it. Increasing the risk to have to discard your bike if you do not find a proper replacement.
@the_truth50
@the_truth50 7 ай бұрын
Doesn’t giant make frames for most bicycle companies ?? 🤔 I have a cannondale caad12 but I’m getting a tcr soon I just think giant offers the best specs for the price
@lcisso8584
@lcisso8584 11 ай бұрын
2016 FUJI SL 1.1 is still the best endurance bike!!!😊
@drill_fiend1097
@drill_fiend1097 2 ай бұрын
Lauf is the great value here, and with threaded BSA and other non proprietary interfaces for easy maintenance. But what it isn't is endurance. They would be perfect if they made less aggressive bikes as even Seigla with leaf fork is more of a race bike than adventure bike.
@radiocontrolled9181
@radiocontrolled9181 9 ай бұрын
I own a Giant Contend 2 with upgraded wheelset Mavic Cosmic SLR. The Contend has an aluminium frame but the geometry is very similar to the older Defys apart from having 10mm shorter chainstays, so shorter wheelbase. I am very happy with my Contend. I ride 25mm tires, not impressed with the 'wider is better or faster' hype. At all.
@typsy103
@typsy103 7 ай бұрын
Currently riding a Defy, but was looking for the Contend at the time during COVID lockdown, exactly same mods I would have made… how does it ride?
@radiocontrolled9181
@radiocontrolled9181 7 ай бұрын
@@typsy103 It rides very well. I usually ride solo and I don't race. I use Continental Gatorskins to avoid punctures as much as possible. I used to put 100psi at the back and 95 front. Recently decreased the pressures to 95 back and 90 front. More comfy and no difference in rolling resistance. I currently weigh around 80kg and I am 172cm. I'm trying to go down to 75kg but my problem is that when I get hungry I eat. Too much. 😊🤫 It's hard for me to go on a calorie deficit.
@typsy103
@typsy103 7 ай бұрын
@@radiocontrolled9181 the resemblance is uncanny: - 172cm and 82kgs, aim is 75kgs. - Solo rider… - Hunt Aero and wheels aluminium - 32mm GK slicks tyres - feel your pain in regards to eating, all the best 😅
@goodsoundsification
@goodsoundsification 11 ай бұрын
What size of lauf did you test and how tall are you. I am right between sizes. Thanks
@jimmill3384
@jimmill3384 Ай бұрын
My choice would be lauf
@ArteUltra1195
@ArteUltra1195 11 ай бұрын
That Lauf with the new sram and Zipp 303 for 4000£ sounds very reasonable, sadly it doesn‘t impress me optically that much..
@chriscross5689
@chriscross5689 11 ай бұрын
Now lets see if any of those expensive bikes has properly faced bb's , heasets etc? Round holes and properly aligned all over.😮
@yuriivorobei5901
@yuriivorobei5901 11 ай бұрын
My name is Matt Watson and this is BikeWow! ))
@roadcc
@roadcc 11 ай бұрын
Haha, next week: Porsche 911 vs pinarello
@alexcollins5150
@alexcollins5150 11 ай бұрын
Having ridden 2 of the 3, the Canyon feels more agile than the giant. I’d buy it again for the VCLS seatpost (genuine game changer) and adjustable cockpit. Canyon after sales has been really great, albeit a subjective opinion. Canyon definitely the sexiest. The Lauf looks like it’s been beaten with the ugly stick.
@diegoeleazar9154
@diegoeleazar9154 11 ай бұрын
Endurance bikes fits me the best cause Im a 🦖
@monkmchorning
@monkmchorning 11 ай бұрын
Well put.
@nolly485
@nolly485 11 ай бұрын
That Lauf frame looks like it's been in a crash with a car
@fnqadv1162
@fnqadv1162 10 ай бұрын
Hate the Endurace flap, rules the bike out for me. If they bring out a version without it they would probably sell a few.
@NeoPayneHK
@NeoPayneHK 11 ай бұрын
thank you
@PipChandler
@PipChandler 10 ай бұрын
Adding VAT/shipping to UK makes basic Lauth £3280 not £2700 quoted in review
@petersouthernboy6327
@petersouthernboy6327 9 ай бұрын
Brexit
@jonesyjones7626
@jonesyjones7626 6 ай бұрын
VAT and postage are unaffected by Brexit.
@Leo-gt1bx
@Leo-gt1bx 2 ай бұрын
The Canyon certainly looks better with out the ugly dropped seat stays.
@tuqk4u22
@tuqk4u22 Ай бұрын
Lauf!🎉
@Adiambrozi
@Adiambrozi 2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately Defy XS top tube lenght is 515 long (is this a joke? its a medium sized bike), Lauf keeps ots top tube lenghts secret. If you are a shorter man or average sized woman, From these 3 only Canyon would fit.
@iambonjwa5293
@iambonjwa5293 7 ай бұрын
"If it was my own money", "it blows the competition out of the water" etc etc. Either being disingenuous for ad purposes or it's an oversight on their part. If you're abroad then this price , whilst the other bikes do. Still not the worst price/spec ratio in the world but it isn't the huge outlier they're making it out to be.
@ginomordocco4710
@ginomordocco4710 11 ай бұрын
The Lauf is just an ugly bike. That headtube is nasty.
@chriscross5689
@chriscross5689 11 ай бұрын
£8k for a bike.. f#ck that.
@edwardjonese
@edwardjonese 10 ай бұрын
£8,599 .... yeah no thanks
@tombola4046
@tombola4046 11 ай бұрын
12k defy vs a £4k Lauf 🤪
@Sr.D
@Sr.D 6 ай бұрын
But why always the "top of the range" models?Why the f#€k can't you just talk about the entry level models? Never, no bike channels do that, always the bikes that costs more than a good motorcycle...
@MrHallTV
@MrHallTV 5 ай бұрын
Literally does at 10:26
@JamesSmith-qs4hx
@JamesSmith-qs4hx 11 ай бұрын
Rim Brakes for the win in 2024❤
@themightymite5688
@themightymite5688 11 ай бұрын
Penny Farthings for the win in 2025.
@s1alker564
@s1alker564 11 ай бұрын
if you know you know
@markbyrne7598
@markbyrne7598 11 ай бұрын
I went from from 105 disc back to 105 rim and its fine. I live in Ireland, a wet country with mucky hills and my rim brakes still stop me fine.
@JamesSmith-qs4hx
@JamesSmith-qs4hx 11 ай бұрын
@@markbyrne7598 Exactly.
@radiocontrolled9181
@radiocontrolled9181 9 ай бұрын
Rim brakes for me till I die.
@pawelodz8050
@pawelodz8050 11 ай бұрын
Loose cables are passe😂
@a1white
@a1white 11 ай бұрын
I’ll take them over massive servicing costs thanks.
@pawelodz8050
@pawelodz8050 11 ай бұрын
@@a1white 🤦🏼 you buy 4, 5, 6k bikes and cry about 40$ once a 5-10 years cable change. Pathetic😂
@pawelodz8050
@pawelodz8050 11 ай бұрын
@@a1white anyway I have much cheaper Reacto 6000 with full hidden cables and looks much modern than this Lauf
@radiocontrolled9181
@radiocontrolled9181 9 ай бұрын
I prefer passe to the impossibility to service my own bike.
@pawelodz8050
@pawelodz8050 9 ай бұрын
@@radiocontrolled9181 you buy expensive bicycles and cries about price of cable change every 5-10 years 🤦🏼🤭 Pathetic. Someday you all will ride on bicycles with hidden cables but now... 😂
@ellerybice3787
@ellerybice3787 11 ай бұрын
Somehow riding a bicycle manufactured from a company called "Giant" just sounds off! 🤯
@mcgarvy7
@mcgarvy7 3 ай бұрын
Which one is the cheapest lol
@hope2someday691
@hope2someday691 11 ай бұрын
Shameful bit of bad publicly for Schwalbe. (if you’re going to dis a product you should include the back story). Flat implies a puncture, low would imply it just needs air.
@1942rommel
@1942rommel 7 ай бұрын
Seidla is ...Seigla. Perfect . Just.
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