2024 Honda Pilot | Long Term Pros and Cons

[@seanflanagan2394]

As a car enthusiast who is getting up in years, I appreciate that Mark and Jack accompany us along the way. While I still have interest in the cars I used to drive before marriage and children, it’s videos like this - The Honda Pilot - that speaks to the family man I’ve become. I know videos like this are not easy to make, not the kind of car that gets the blood flowing. But your mature approach to the practicality/livability of this vehicle is not lost on this (slightly older) viewer, and it’s very clear that you didn’t treat this review as a lesser-than vehicle. While the kid in me will always yearn for the sports cars of my youth, the father who stands in his place today must make decisions beyond himself, such as his family. So continued thanks for content that speaks to us all, your work and your dedication is greatly appreciated!

[@nicholasmanno2548]

Agreed. As much as I’d love one of the Porsche or BMW products these guys review, I am actually in the market for this kind of car.

[@jrod237]

Amen! Respect 🫡

[@sip4751]

Agreed, although what's happen on my end is I got wings so now cars are interesting but not as thrilling.

[@eric97909]

Bless

[@rm0234]

I see comments like yours and they encourage my perspective not to have kids so I can afford good cars. I don't want to give up on my childhood dream cars because I have to carry around kids and all their crap. Thank you

[@GeorgeJackson47645]

I know I’m getting old because the convenience of the storage space and ability to hold up to grimy hands is suddenly exciting.

[@mattgibbia2692]

Yup enjoy these more than sports car videos

[@chrisandersen9713]

It’s funny, I’ve actually struggled with this a bit, because in a car nut. Especially imports. Hondas, Toyotas, Mitsubishis from the 90s, etc. I owned a 3000GT alongside all my daily drivers, and you know what? I eventually realized I straight up wanted to sell it. So I did, three years ago. I kind of miss HAVING a toy, like I sold a part of my personality or something, but I haven’t missed the car itself, and you know why? It had a glass transmission. It was big on the outside but tiny on the inside. Anyone over about 14 years old couldn’t really fit in the back comfortably. One of our dogs passed and we started bringing the other just about everywhere with us (easier with one dog than two). I put 300 miles on that Mitsubishi one year because I was working from home and the only time I could realistically drive it was alone. I was sad when we sold the Odyssey, even though it went to a family member. That car was 9 years of memories. And I love the Pilot we have now. The coolest car is the one you can enjoy with the people you love.

[@OldRustySteele]

Hi George, you must not be that old. I’m 70, so I have no worry about a car interior holding up to grimy hands. (Though I do miss those days when my kids were kids! They’re both in their 40’s now. Time flies!)

[@OldRustySteele]

@@chrisandersen9713 Great points, Chris. My days as a young dad are long past (I’m 70), but we had a lot of great memories when the kids were young in our ‘93 Dodge Grand Caravan. Including camping in it one night because it was pouring rain into our tent! My youngest son, who is now 41, still teases me because the Caravan had the “Gold Package” which was a thin gold stripe and gold painted wheels. (Sweet, huh?) Every time I buy a car now, he asks, “Are you gonna get the coveted Gold Package?!?” (I don’t know how he got to be such a wiseass. Must be from his mom’s side of the family! 😂)

[@chrisandersen9713]

@@OldRustySteele my parents had a 93 Voyager until I was a junior in high school! Short wheelbase, base model with the 3.0 Mitsubishi V6 yet somehow also the 4-speed overdrive transmission (a combination I can no longer find any record of existing, but I distinctly remember asking my dad what the overdrive button meant!)

[@Almighty_cornholio]

I love that it has a smaller sized screen and actual physical hvac controls

[@rpiian]

@@Almighty_cornholio Same - begone with giant garbage touchscreens and bring on the physical controls.

[@DF-et4gs]

We have a 24 and love that part of using it everyday

[@starvin-marvin-the-martian]

I've got a Ridgeline and I agree. This was one of the big selling points for me. Small screen, physical buttons, and no LTE connectivity. I'm worried that in the next gen they'll ruin all that.

[@geerjm]

+1. One of the biggest tiebreaking points these have.... the other being no turbocharged engine.

[@alphabeta8403]

1:40 Lots of storage 3:10 Small/dated infotainment 5:10 Very basic, no contrast 6:00 Buttery V6, hesitating 10 speed, abysmal MPG 9:00 Very nimble 11:20 Good value

[@lexwaldez]

"... Just stylish enough, without being douchey." That's pretty much what I look for, lol. Nailed it.

[@meesr]

Pretty much describes what I want said at my funeral, right there.

[@FeelingPeculiar]

​@@meesrlol

[@labradachig1976]

Love these long term reviews of common sense vehicles.

[@JP-jq1qx]

I installed an "Ide-Stopper" on my Honda It electronically reverses the function of the idle stop pushbutton. easily mounts under the console and works flawlessly I have used it for a year on my Honda Passport It uses factory connectors, so you can take it out easily and transfer it to another Honda product. about $99 on amazon

[@rpiian]

Link to the idle stopper?

[@MeltingRubberZ28]

​@@rpiianlikely the idlestopper. I think it's the V2

[@rpiian]

@@MeltingRubberZ28 I don’t see one for 2023+ Pilot. Only up to 2022. Hence my request for a link to the actual product page. Unless someone here has used one of the other versions for their 2023+ Pilot (if so, which one?)

[@MeltingRubberZ28]

@rpiian I'll see if I can post one but the links almost always get deleted when I try

[@MeltingRubberZ28]

@@rpiian so YT deleted the link. Check out the idle stopper website. Says they work for 16-25 Pilots.

[@gordonbardet7838]

I bought a 2024 Pilot Trailsport in Feb. 2024 and love it. I sold off my 2017 Toyota 4Runner that had only 29,000 miles on it. I am used to going off rosd on rough fire and logging roads in the high Sierra Nevada Mountains. Thus far, thru mud and snow and ice it’s exceeded my expectations. When I’ve had to stop and turn around due to the condition of the road I would have turned around too in the 4Runner (as well as in my 2006 Range Rover County LWB I purchased new that year and owed and used in the Sierras for 11 years. (Very few reviews cover the Trailsport’s impressive off-road capability.). I think a person’s opinions about how a new car or SUV feels to drive is impacted by what the new owner is used to. In my case, after 6 years of feeling like I was driving a truck (which of course the 4Runner essentially is), driving the my Honda Pilot Trailsport made me feel like I was in a high-end automobile. And talk about braking! The #1 reason I dumped my 4Runner (which was in like-new condition ) was because you couldn’t stop the thing easily. If you had to stop suddenly, the 4Runner’s front end lurches down and starts to move to the left, either into another lane on the freeway or on a two lane road dangerously over the line facing head on opposing traffic. Compared to that, the Trailsport feels like it stops on a dime and never feels as if it is going to weave left or right. And now with grandchildren, the roomy 3rd row is fabulous. And I did investigate the off road capability of both the Telluride and Highlander and Grand Highlander, which do not measure up to the Trailsport. The video was a very good review. Thank you!

[@paulfromjupiter]

'23 Elite with over 20K miles. I wanted the red paint, but ended up going with a different color to get the gray interior for the contrast since I have to look at the interior more than the exterior. I've only ever owned one vehicle with an all black interior, and realized I prefer lighter, or at least mixed, interiors. It's a Honda - I expect it to do a lot of things well without a fuss, even if it is not the best at any one thing.

[@Supercruze]

Great review. My wife and I test drove the new 2024 Pilot Elite and compared it to the 2024 MDX SHAWD Tech and while I love the features and utility of the Pilot, the MDX felt more refined and athletic. We ended up with the MDX for her and have not regretted that decision. I still love the new Pilot and may consider it for myself in a year or two. The Pilot packs so many features and convenience for the money. So impressed with what Honda did here. Keep up the great work and thanks.

[@gosman949]

you didn't get the new 2025 MDX?

[@Supercruze]

@@gosman949 - Bought the vehicle in early March. 2025 MDX not even on the radar at that time.

[@ruturaj47]

I would have preferred MDX but it's so small inside compared to pilot even with same wheelbase and somewhat same exterior dimensions.

[@KT_One]

We looked at the MDX first but the wife wasn’t fond of the interior and went Pilot instead. Saved me thousands so I’m not complaining too much.

[@MidnightAspec]

We have a 24 MDX Advance, having traded up from our old 22 Tech. (With the 25 set to debut but not available yet, we were able to get the Advance for $7k off sticker.) As our oldest daughter has a 22 Pilot EX-L (last generation) which I've driven, we really did consider going Pilot Elite over the MDX. However, I'm still partial to the sportier handling of the MDX. Both are great; just a matter of preference.

[@mikechafe419]

Had a 2005 Pilot. It literally had a cassette player stock. Drove it for 15 years while raising a family. It was a fantastic partner. I miss it.

[@tonysterbenc]

Thanks for a very practical perspective. A friend just picked up one of these, and I was impressed by the quality of materials and level of style inside for a non-luxury nameplate. Together with the high-quality running gear, it gave an overall impression of quality that I personally can't feel with the Korean competition.

[@alejandro8435]

I’ve had my Pilot Elite for over a year. Agree with everything said in the video. My car was unfortunately plagued with quality control issues. - replaced electronic steering assembly due to vibrations in the steering wheel - replaced most of the front suspension (there was a clacking noise coming from front left) it took the dealership a lot of time to find the right component to stop the noise - and most recently had rear seat buckle assembly replaced ( otherwise it would continuously warn and beep). The car has under 8k miles. Im getting 18 mpg in mixed driving.

[@dannoyes4493]

What a great video... When folks dicuss cars or ask "what car should I buy?" I send them to this. So accurate and rich in detail that I feel as though I've lived with it. Brief, to the point, thank you for this. A reference video. Well Done.

[@kylekraemer1151]

Once our old car died in May, we test drove the Pilot, CX90, Highlander, a CPO '22 RX350, and a CPO '21 GX460. All within $5k or so of each other. I wanted to like the Pilot the most, but it was loud, slow, and jerky. Did like the storage and roomy interior. Felt minivan-esque. Terrible dealership experience however, sleazy salesman tried to jack up the price of the Pilot almost $10k and then lied about available incentives. Wound up choosing the GX460. Super quiet interior, best fit and finish by far. Better at just about everything honestly. Competitive price and Lexus dealership experience. Get about 17 mpg is the worst "downside". Very happy we went the way we did.

[@thatoneotherotherguy]

Absymal fuel economy does seem like a fair downside, no quotes needed. If one is cool enough to not care about fuel economy, how much do they really need to care about moderate variations on purchase price?

[@zackyeye]

what did you end up getting? I was in a similar predicament and got a 22 GX.. I like it but it also feels like a dinosaur in some ways and didnt get the best value for my money, especially considering the fuel economy.

[@JDMintegraVTEC]

Good choice. Yes the economy isn't great, especially when you factor in premium fuel. It's just a 15 year old Landcruiser Prado, there's nothing unexpected.

[@jamesday7344]

Good choice

[@FFFFFFF-FFFFFFFUUUUCCCC]

Don't think about the mpg. The GX460 (at least the previous generation) is extremely reliable so you will save much more from avoiding mechanics than you will lose from lower mpg

[@ScoobyDo2009]

I have a 24 Trailsport and this video is spot-on. The transmission tuning IS annoying at times (esp when it’s cold) but overall it’s a great vehicle. If they would update the transmission software it would be perfect.

[@losinfinite]

i literally may get a Trailsport this week. do you recommend it?

[@Bingzir]

Got my 2025 Trailsport about 2 months ago. Absolutely do it. ​@@losinfinite

[@MC-qg5nu]

@@losinfinite I have a 2025 TS, love it. Handles great, the V6 likes and needs to rev to get and move but I find it very enjoyable to drive. It's a refuge inside and I've done some off roading that was pretty impressive for what it is.

[@losinfinite]

@MC-qg5nu I am coming from a Volvo xc90. Test drove the TS. My family loved the interior. They didn't notice a difference in the ride but I could tell the get off wasn't as powerful. Reminded me of a Highlander I had like a decade ago. The infotainment seems small but other than that as a people mover and weekend errand car it seems pretty good. I live the NE so snow and trail driving isn't uncommon

[@SheepNizzle]

@@losinfinite I own both a 24 Trailsport and a 2016 Pilot Touring and I really love the Trailsport. I've had it just over a year now, and it's been great. It has more room, the adaptive cruise and sound system is miles better than the 16. Carplay is solid, unlike my 2023 Ford Edge work vehicle. Also, I have a very steep gravel driveway and it handles it much better than the 16, especially in the snow. I'll agree with the video and scooby's comment that the transmission is a bit jerky. Mine got a little better around 5K miles but not by much. It's a little harsh off the line and when you put the pedal down to pass someone on the interstate. Still though, I love the Trailsport and would highly recommend it.

[@justinrbair]

I’ve watched a dozen or more review videos for the Pilot and this was the best.

[@captainron9143]

Arguably one of the most honest vehicle videos I've watched--great job!

[@chrisandersen9713]

Love my 2024 Touring. Super versatile - gave up some interior space coming from an Odyssey, but in return I can have a much nicer bike rack (heavier) without squatting and scraping, and use a cargo rack for extra storage the 2 or 3 days a year I need it. And I get one of the best AWD systems out there. Also, I’ve seen as high as 27mpg on pure long-haul highway driving. Quickly dropped to like a 25mpg average for that trip when I hit some traffic, but still honestly not MUCH worse than my old Odyssey, and around town it’s actually doing better than the Odyssey did.

[@user1989fopfrs7]

it’s terrible

[@chrisandersen9713]

@ compared to a hybrid Grand Highlander or Sienna, absolutely, but compared to a bunch of its other competitors (Telluride, Ascent, Palisade, non-hybrid GH) it’s right in the same ballpark. I wish it got better MPG, but I also wasn’t a fan of the GH or Sienna interiors, and the GH reviews say it doesn’t ride nearly as well as the Pilot. Plus I’m very comfortable with the Honda J35 engine, as long as you maintain it I’d say it’s one of the best engines I’ve ever owned (the other being anything K-series)

[@Tripp55]

I love these real ownership videos. Loved it with the XC90. Loved it with the X7. Loved it with the Pilot.

[@TheOreamnos55]

Got our 2024 Pilot Elite in Oct 2023. Just now crossing 20k miles (includes a 7k mile roadtrip in September through 20 states). Has been great for all the reasons mentioned in this vid. Given where we live and our use cases, I wanted something roomy and reliable with a great AWD system, without spending true luxury SUV money. We previously had 2 MDXes for the same reasons. Haven't had any issues yet; have done 2 oil & filter changes (for free by Honda). Level road trip mileage has been around 27 MPG (we live over 4000' elevation, impacting mileage slightly). Mileage on our road trip on the long 80 MPH limit sections was 25-26. Long-term overall total mileage has been almost 23. I can easily live with that. Love the roominess and storage; stellar road trip vehicle. We easily fit our 9' Xmas tree last year. Even was able to fit the huge box that my new snowblower came in. The Bridgestone Alenza tires are indeed fine for highway driving, and obviously targeted toward noise reduction. I spend a lot of time in places with sharp rocky roads, and am considering switching to 18" all-terrain tires for my non-winter use. The Alenzas don't tolerate that use well. Also got a set of Blizzaks on 18" wheels for winter use. Have loved the MDX/Pilot AWD system for snow & ice, which is a constant in my life from December thru early May (have already had 3 snowy days in October). I've never noticed the transmission behaviors that some mention. Maybe I'm just lucky, but if such "issues" are there, they are extremely, extremely minor. Things I'd change if I could: 1) I'd want the steering feel to be a bit heavier. As is, it's likely great for the suburban mom crowd. Especially in strong crosswinds, I notice the buffeting easily. 2) The adaptive cruise control is far too aggressive in how it lets you catch up quickly to someone and then WHAM it cuts off the speed. My wife's Audi is much more graceful. 3) The cruise speed control is too strict in terms of not allowing a little bit of speed "float" on downhills. I have to remember to turn it off when going downhill, lest everyone around me think I'm some weird asshole who keeps slamming on the brakes for no apparent reason. 4) I could use at least another inch of ground clearance, both for rocks and snow. Yes, I could have gotten a Trailsport, but didn't want the orange striping on the interior, and didn't want 2nd row captain's chairs) Barring any issues, I'm expecting to keep this one for a long time. The plan is for it to be the not outrageously expensive, reliable, capable, roomy all-purpose utility vehicle in the stable, while other cars come and go for other use cases.

[@babelnow]

How does it compare to your old MDX?

[@TheOreamnos55]

@@babelnow Our MDXes were 2008 and 2012, so not really equivalent to the current models. The 2024 Pilot is obviously more technology-rich. AWD system seems about the same. The Pilot is quieter (the Honda family's weak point has always been noise, in my opinion). The Pilot shape (closer to a pure "box") allows for carrying of more/bigger things. MDX had a bit heftier steering, which I preferred. Very similar beyond that.

[@xiewei1989]

The comments on the jerky transmission and soft brakes are spot on. These are my biggest gripes of the 24 Pilot. Wish Honda can make improvements.

[@StringedKeys]

Tow mode is our sweet spot. We get in, turn on, select Tow, Drive, and Go. It's just 2nd nature now. - It's the least torquey so as to not cause unnecessary jerk shifting or accidental wheel spin. - No VCM Deactivation - never at a loss of pwr with all 6cyl enagaged at all times - Tow mode shuts off Automatic Engine On/Off - 20.9mpg in Tow mode on avg combined city/hwy (again, all 6cyl engaged at all times) Now to figure how to protect the direct inject like its a port inject. 🤔 Look at it like this, Tow mode is to compensate for extra jerky weight you're possibly carrying in the rear so the smoother shift in Tow mode compensates for the extra jerky weight and has really been the smoothest shift of all the modes offered (imo). And if everything I've read is true, itll hold up better on the engine as there is no cyclinder deactivating from 6cyl to 3 or 4cyl.

[@rpiian]

We love our ‘23 Elite. Frickin rocks for a 3 kid family (+dog).

[@pjmccary]

We sold our Sienna and bought a Pilot this summer since we were moving to the mountains. It’s been fantastic! It’s my wife’s car and she gets compliments everywhere she goes in how nice the trail sport blue color looks. I’d love more power but very few complaints.

[@mrdave777]

I’m staying in N Dakota now. The winters are one of the worst in the contiguous USA. These Honda Pilots. 2nd generation. ARE EVERYWHERE. That says everything I need to know.

[@James-il3tq]

IVTM-4 AWD in Honda's is fantastic in poor weather. Also does a strong job in twisties and off-roading. Wish other manufacturers had the same instead of slip based reactive FWD based AWD systems.

[@mrdave777]

@ Curious how Honda 4wd does vs Acura SH AWD?

[@ethanwang9050]

⁠@@mrdave777 Honda has various AWD systems, if you are comparing this pilot AWD to MDX SHAWD, there are basically the same.

[@TypicalGuy84]

I have a 09 Pilot and with 226k miles NY winters included The AWD is amazing, I would drive past everyone wondering why they're going so slow.

[@ShaiyanHossain]

@@mrdave777 the current i-vtm reacts a little slower vs the current sh-awd but other than that they're the same

[@leborde]

That NA V6 is a blessing. J35Y1 on my car, and it has 385,000 kms (240,000 miles) and not a single problem.

[@petewick8627]

In what vehicle? And fuel economy?

[@leborde]

@@petewick8627 Accord coupé 2013. 7 to 8.5 l/100kms

[@kc510]

That longevity is awesome but you do get spoiled by that turbo torque and rarely needing to ever downshift. NA v6 definitely the better option if you plan on having it for the long haul.

[@tockero4277]

This is not the same engine. Same output and cylinders, but not the same engine. You have the better engine.

[@leborde]

@@tockero4277 Don't they have J35Y1 too?

[@johnjuza2659]

I have a 2024 elite and your discreption of the transmission is spot on. The dealer said its normal operation. The braking is very soft indeed. 19 MPG for me. It is easy to drive. Very comfy in cruise for a long trip!

[@life36899]

Fuel mileage? In my 24 Pilot Elite, at 10K in 8 months, I have averaged 24.1 MPG. (I did not reset trip B until 10K) All milage has been pump verified. Most of my driving is city other than a 3k mile trip from Denver to Minnesota and back. I live in the Denver area, which tends to show lower MPG. The first two tanks were pretty disappointing. I struggled to get to 20 MPG. It did improve each tank. The third tank shortly after first oil change showed over 20 and finally leveled off in the 23 to 24 MPG range. I am hoping the next 10K will even be better! I do drive pretty conservatively, but decent milage is possible. Also, at 11K, there have been no issues and no maintenance costs other than changing over to snow tires and back to all seasons. I have done two oil and filter changes, all covered by Honda. One at 1k and one at 6K. The third one will be next week. Honda pushes back on early oil changes, but I tell them if Honda won't cover the cost, I will, and so far, they have agreed to cover the cost. I will see if that continues for the second year of the two years of free maintenance program? I agree with Mark on his assessment other than my transmission shifts smoothed out around 5k. I still agree that first gear is quite low and shifts to second very quickly and throttle position affects the shift quality. I wonder if software could solve this occasional annoyance? I would love to see a mild hybrid attached to the new V6 for more power and milage but if it sacrifices reliability or residual value I can live with the current setup.

[@Nystromj1]

Bought a new '25 Pilot Elite. Have had it just over a month and so far so good! We didn't even consider any other brand of model since we've been driving a Pilot since 2014, and Acura before that. Both were very reliable but the Pilot is more bang for the buck. Since we take long driving trips from the inland northwest to coastal S. Caroling to visit one of our kids' we wanted a new car. While we don't use the 3rd row very often, the extra space it provides is very versatile and can accommodate lots of stuff. We prefer the standard V-6 over turbo's and hybrids because repairs on those can get expensive.

[@opulentotter8594]

Just wanted to say that I took some time away from car videos on YT, but SavageGeese popped up in my mind and I decided to catch up with you. So awesome to see your continued content and growth!

[@davidgonzalez3562]

There is not a perfect car in the market, there is no brand free of recalls and of course free of haters, but I’m SO HAPPY with my 2025 Pilot, just 5K on it, yes, just 18 mpg, but I don’t care, the smooth and solid drive is amazing 🤩

[@Billybobthor]

Just some feedback. I’ve noticed in a lot of your videos lately the music is quite loud on the initial driving impression part. First, it’s corny music. Second, it would be nice to actually hear the car on that first pull. And lastly, it would be good to hear the ambient noise level during the rest of the driving part, although at least the music is lower then. Thanks.

[@jakes5530]

An Elite with the brown leather will probably be my next car. Just bought a used 2021 Passport, this is the next step up. In regard to the stop-start annoyance, one benefit of Honda’s push button gear selector is that you can put it into drive and push the stop-start disable button simultaneously with your thumb and index finger. Ive made a habit of just doing that every time I go for a drive. It’s actually way less annoying to do this than having a separate button some random location on the dash like in many cars.

[@fredmoss4540]

Thanks for the updated review. My decision to get this vehicle hasn't changed in over a year. I will hopefully be getting it before Christmas. 2025 Pilot Elite Platinum White Pearl exterior with Brown interior.

[@Bill340s]

I am picking up a white brown interior Elite tomorrow. Test drove it transmission felt very refined very precise. So will see how it goes.....

[@steves6320]

I have a 2023 Pilot Elite. Perfect for long road trips (across several states). Comfortable. Sufficiently quiet. Enough power. A lot of interior storage, including under the back deck. Only one complaint. Passenger seat does not have height adjustment. P.S. Just subscribed to this channel. Like their reviews.

[@aslevdog]

Another simple video that proves Mark is the best, simply the best

[@stevenblunt-canosa9131]

I have a 23 Elite and I love it. Best road trip car ever. Super comfy, easy to drive and just an excellent car. The only think the irks me is when I’m stopping it shifts right before I stop and it’s always jerky. It drives me absolutely nuts. 18 months and 15k miles and I’m not used to that. It’s less noticeable in Econ mode but in our hot summers I have it in normal most of the time.

[@shaunlunney7551]

Black Edition with the red stitching and red accent lighting is nice, gives a little more pop in the interior. Start/stop can be disabled with an add-on module, I agree wish it was something we could set. We love the Pilot, so functional for family hauling and camping trips. Hope to run er for 15-20 years!

[@Whiskey_BS]

I’ve had my 2025 Pilot Elite for 3 months now. I concur with your comments and would add that this vehicle is long. 10 inches longer than my old 2012 Pilot. That makes parking a bit more challenging. Had to rearrange the garage to make room for this beauty. FYI, I’m getting 22 mpg. I must have a lighter foot!

[@j.redbeard99]

Glad you guys have had a good experience with your Pilot. My sister bought a '24 Pilot Trailsport around the same time I bought my Accord. We love the N.A. V6 and the interior is so very practical. It's obvious Honda gave this generation Pilot more R&D and T.L.C. than Accord. Another great review from Savage Geese!

[@MC-qg5nu]

I have a 2006 CTS-V, 6sp with an LSA supercharger on top. But it's my 2025 Honda Pilot Trailsport that keeps me grounded and gives me the security to know life will go on. It does everything well and nothing about it annoys me. Sure, it could use more power in a perfect world but it's perfectly adequate. I'm in my early 40s with wife, 3 kids, dog. I still have fun with the obnoxious Cadillac, but life would be too risky without my Pilot. As a bonus I love driving it as well.

[@henrysboy2]

I have owned a few of these Honda V-6 motors. Super reliable and great dailies. Spot on about the gas mileage. But very easy to live with.

[@zigforjustice]

0:44 -- You nailed it. The unassuming and lack of stigmas is definitely beneficial in places where your entire self is unfortunately judged by the car you drive. At some angles it looks like the last gen Acadia without being a GM pile

[@b104396]

Have 24’ TS Pilot 7k…..your points are right on and agree 100%., Would I buy again…..YES. Excellent honest review.

[@lane5686]

One huge Pro is definitely that naturally aspirated V6 engine. My dream car after only one test drive

[@spitfyre1551]

I picked up a 2025 EX-L and I have to say the transmission being herky jerky in the lower gears (how could Honda consider this is normal) is really annoying and even seems to shudder in the mid range if you let off the gas then back on. I have some weird vibration/flapping around 40mph and I have door seam sealant/paint defects (working through Honda Corp on it after dealer has gone MIA). THAT said, the interior is amazing for storage, comfort, and usability (love physical hvac controls). The exterior looks amazing to me as well. I'm coming from an early 2000s Explorer and this feels like a modern interpretation of that with decent ride quality and modern comforts. I hope to get the other issues resolved so I can enjoy this vehicle for many years to come.

[@breadanrice]

my family had an 07 pilot and I learned to drive on that thing, I genuinely had many years of nightmares where I would be pressing the brake as hard as I could in a dream and this car wouldn't stop. Crazy to hear that this is still the case

[@SC-mb9sk]

Probably the only car youtbers that can get me excited to watch a video on a Honda SUV.

[@Perrydrives]

bought a 24 trailsport for my wife as our family vehicle and we love everything about it

[@briand.1694]

2004 Pilot. 212,000 miles in mostly city driving and the starter was the only 'major' component that needed to be replaced at about 210,000. Waiting to see the reviews on the upcoming Passport as I don't need a third row. Otherwise I'll most likely get a new Pilot after the new year. Very insightful review. Thank you.

[@nigelgregson7084]

I bought a 2025 Honda Pilot Elite 3 weeks ago and have really enjoyed it over that time and the last 1200 miles or so. Mark and Jack’s original reviews were quite influential in steering me towards buying this. I don’t know if Honda has updated the software since Mark’s car, but two things I disagree with from this review relate to the transmission smoothness and start/stop. I have found the transmission to be silky smooth at all times with none of the jerkiness referred to. Also the start/stop system is very unobtrusive and I have no problem leaving it on (unlike just about every other vehicle I have owned). I have owned a number of higher end luxury cars (eg. BMW 650ix, Range Rover TD6, Porsche Panamera 4S…..I still own the Porsche) so my standards for comparison are quite high and I still find the Honda extremely smooth with regard to transmission and the start/stop. I will note that on one of the Honda Pilot Elites that I test drove there was one time a pretty strange transmission hiccup when pulling away, so I can imagine what Mark means, but I have had none of these issues on my own vehicle.

[@1950rking]

We bought a Honda Pilot Touring a few months back. We were concerned with the monochromatic look of the interior so opted for the dark blue that comes with the grey interior. A much nicer look in our opinion. Also, we don’t find the same jerkiness issue with the start-stop that you found. We had a Subaru Outback that really shuttered every time the engine shut off and when it restarted. With our Pilot I sometimes have to look at the tachometer to determine if the engine actually shut off. And the restart is not annoying at all. We recently traveled to Yuma for the winter from our home in Washington. My wife had the car packed to the gills. I could barely see out the back. Yet we averaged 26 mpg during this 1600 mile trek.

[@jenniferantonio6389]

I actually have this car but sport and I will say I do drive in normal in the city, but if I want to catch up with traffic on highway, I switch it to sport, and it works perfectly.

[@BorkWithAFork]

I love the update for this. I was looking for a new vehicle and your videos helped me decide on the pilot. Also from the Chicago land area and having an AWD is a must

[@matthewvalaik]

man, you guys are the best!

[@theglowcloud2215]

If you want a big 3 row with 'good' fuel economy, the diesel Tahoe or Suburban are probably the only good options. Grand Highlander, too, but only the iForce Max trim.

[@P-Bizzy]

Any issues related to the cylinder shut down of the engine?

[@AbhishekKumar-zx3sb]

Great no nonsense videos as always. Really interested in GHH Max long term. Any plans on this one?

[@fabricebaro]

This looks like the perfect car for me to drive the kids around while my wife is having fun with her boyfriend. And I can even haul his Aston Martin's wheels while I'm a it.

[@scottgarbo8663]

😂😂😂

[@homebrew1709]

The Pilot was on the short list to replace my wife’s Mazda CX-9. We were initially drawn to it for the Honda reliability and the NA V6. However, as Mark mentions, the Pilot’s interior feels a generation or two behind some of the competition. At $55K for an Elite trim, we couldn’t get over it. The Telluride, for instance, is a much nicer cabin. Ended up leasing a KIA EV9 since we wanted to go electric this time around. No regrets so far.

[@dragospahontu]

Kia Telluride will not disappoint.

[@richarddieu35]

My 2019 Honda Passport's transmission has the same hesitation when going from a stop. Changing the transmission fluid and resetting the transmission control module helped

[@kennys8661]

I heard the VCM system is not reliable for long term ownership, how many miles is on your passport and have you had any issues?

[@arielsanchezmora]

Got the brown leather (black exterior) and it helps for contrast in the interior

[@fredmoss4540]

I'm getting the Platinum White Pearl exterior with Brown interior.

[@infidel900rr]

came here just to hit that like button! 👍

[@paulm6481]

Great video and right on. This is a great vehicle. Not a speed demon. The transmission does have hesitation but it is reliable. Hate the start stop and lack of transmission lever. Really a perfect vehicle for intended assignment.

[@SubieSpecial]

I purchased the 2025 EXL in Blue Pearl with the light gray interior with the removable rear center seat. Plenty of storage, hauls all my kids sports gear, house stuff, Costco runs, and my stinky military gear. Super quiet, drives and rides more like a car, and we didn’t need anything large like a Tahoe which won’t fit on my short driveway. Start stop is annoying but can be disabled via a button or other methods, gas mileage is not stellar, don’t like the piano black in high touch areas, and the transmission doesn’t seem as refined as others. Barely hitting 5k miles so I’m curious about longevity. Looking forward to reading your experiences.

[@Ark7760]

This feels like a return to form of the original concept of the pilot - 3 row hauler SUV with some decent offroading capability. The VTM-4 lock was surprisingly good. Glad they kept with the J35 at least for one more gen, it's an excellent engine if a little inefficient.

[@clubracer6]

As a 22 MDX A-Spec owner, I am a bit jealous of the extra storage bits in the front. The only issue with our transmission is from a stop, if you suddenly need to go, it’s default is 2nd gear and there is an alarming delay if you go full throttle off the line. The auto stop is horrendous and it does suck that you have to remember to turn is off every time. Sport mode also turns it off and then it also starts off in 1st gear. Assume this is the same with the Pilot.

[@ayushmalpeddi2793]

Seems like you should just drive in sport mode always. Doubt the mpg is much worse if you drive normally

[@life36899]

In my experience the Pilot always starts in first gear unless you are in snow mode. Sport mode does prevent the start stop function. Also if you apply less pressure on the brake peddle right before you come to a stop this also prevents the stop start function. This also works with the brake hold function. Though according to Tribologists in real world engine oil analysis. It was found when using the stop start function, the oil actually had less fuel dilution. Obviously it might be more irritating and harder on your starter motor but it may actually be better for your engine in the long term.

[@dzeng]

Too bad about the jump transmission. I was hoping that Honda fixed these issues. I had a 2016 MDX that I got rid of and part of it was because of the transmission. From a dead stop or even a rolling start, the transmission would hunt and there were times where it was so unsmooth it felt like someone rear ended you at a low speed.

[@strangerranger2565]

We have a 23 Odyssey with the same transmission and it is very smooth.

[@wescam]

I have a 25 Pilot. I have owned dozens of vehicles, and this is the first one where everything just feels like it is in the right place -- from driver controls to getting the kid in and out. I was going to buy the Odessey, but my wife said this was cooler. Maybe next time I get the VAN!

[@ShaiyanHossain]

your wife sucks

[@eduardotoledano]

I have the 9-gear Ridgeline with the same engine and this is gonna sound funny but I use the paddle shifters to downshift when I need it to react quicker. It works.

[@dadslovetacos]

I have a 2024 and my transmission is the same. Maybe they’ll come out with a software update to smooth it out like they did on the 9sp.

[@steveh545]

I bet that becomes Honda's new corporate logo. "Just stylish enough without being douchy". Like the movie Crazy People (great movie!)

[@AB-jk7tw]

A real v6 engine, great transmission, comfortable, great performance and quality Honda construction - what more could you ask for?

[@petertrout7866]

Better gas mileage.

[@TheBMurda]

For the lack of contrast, you can get a brown leather interior that helps with that.

[@TheFalconx00]

Test drove Pilot when it just came out in 2023. Some pros and cons, I was looking at Elite trim due to ventilated seats option, but ~55k isnt cheap. Instead I bought mint 21 CX-9 GT with 7k for 35k. 20k is a lot money even if Pilot will have a better resale value after 5-6 years and a slightly better overall vehicle.

[@eric97909]

Making the important videos, thanks yall

[@retrograde11]

This or Honda Ridgeline for a daily and family trip vehicle?

[@LuvADuc]

Thank you Mark.

[@passionnotparked9099]

Test drove 6 midsize 3rd SUVs, really wanted to like the Pilot. The transmission shift jerk and hunting just drove me bonkers. We drove 2 just to make sure it wasnt just that single car. Everything else Mark got spot on, good looks, useful boring interior, and fairly good NVH.

[@james2042]

The pilot outside looks like a slightly smaller Durango, which is both a testimonial to the 14 year old suv, being a design worth taking inspiration from over a decade later, and them making a cuv not look like a mommobile despite having more in common with a minivan than a pickup truck, unlike the Durango.

[@TingTingMelody]

Nice review! I am a bit shocked at the 20mpg. My 21 Odyssey (without the AWD system) gets about 24mpg mixed driving. In my recent all highway trip of 300 miles, I actually got 29+ mpg!

[@petertrout7866]

Stop lying.

[@TingTingMelody]

@@petertrout7866. I don’t follow, I have nothing to gain other than to share my experience with a similarly sized Honda with the same V6 engine and 10 speed transmission

[@petertrout7866]

@@TingTingMelody like I said..stop lying!!! Savage geese is being completely honest.

[@Nicedesk]

small observations: H increased the "knee splay" space available for rear outboard passengers by deleting extraneous protrusions from the area on the top of the door card closest to the b-pillar. THANKS HONDA!! -this is important when talll people sit in the back. I wish the rear bumper was a step bumper, kind of need it (in addition to the rear wheels) for roof access.

[@jamesledermann5601]

Just picked up a black trailsport. So much room very comfortable, wonder how it handles beach driving

[@dmc7911]

The wife has a 24 Pathfinder. Basically the same car I feel that can be had for less money (maybe at the expense of resale). Proven V6 power, ZF 9 speed auto, relatively simple interior and controls, very usable interior space. It drives anonymously, which in this segment is just fine.

[@rickj6048]

Passport

[@bradhaines3142]

nissan is pretty dog shit generally but the Pathfinder is on their truck platform where they're strangely reliable, like the frontier (and on the same platform) they tend to match or beat the competition on value. everything car based from nissan is trash though, dont waste your money, i learned the hard way myself

[@EverythingEnnett]

The interior on the pathfinder is better as well. Only the third row is small.

[@Blank00]

Honda’s 10AT is better than the ZF9 though, in fact Honda used to equip their big vehicles with ZF9s. That said, the interior and exterior are generally equals between the two, and the Nissan does have a more proven engine since it’s been on the pathfinder for years with barely any changes. That said, table can turn soon since the Pathfinder could switch to 2.0VCT any year now.

[@ledebuhr1]

Hopefully Honda will address his concerns for the refresh in 2026. Hoping for a hybrid.

[@zcallis1]

Not a single person ever wanted that start stop option on any vehicle in history

[@Noremac5223]

Thanks for the measured review. I have always appreciated the team’s thoroughness with all cars. We’re looking at the Pilot vs. Grand Highlander and are leaning GH because of the rear AC vents and slightly more space. I was wondering if you all (or any other commenters) noticed issues with the effectiveness of the rear AC vents during the warmer months in the Pilot given that they are not in the roof?

[@yardboy3955]

I’d keep changing oil and rotating tires til I can’t. I know I can do a better job and I know its done right.

[@devanrogers3133]

I really wish Honda could start paint matching that lower trim around their "US" SUV's like they do on the European Models. That flat black cheapens the look of the vehicle like crazy.

[@Lizj29]

Would you recommend driving in normal or econ mode? Im a bit confused on when to used econ

[@fredmoss4540]

FYI there is an aftermarket cover panel for those center 2nd Row seat anchors.

[@RizHail]

For 3 row affordable SUV Chevy Traverse review coming up?

[@yiga4171]

At first I was like damn this car is very practical I like it. Then I remembered I have a Odyssey 😝

[@IsitReallyrealreally]

Worth it for the Aston slide!

[@klvnpremium853]

The hesitation as described @ 7:30 is real. I own the 2023 model and it's enough "lag" where it sometimes feels unsafe when pulling out into busy traffic. It feels like it cuts the power then there's instant torque. It's also what people are describing in the piloteers forums (go check out the forum if you're considering a pilot). I'm seriously considering a pedal tune that changes the throttle response. Waiting for Pedal Monster to release one for the pilot! Aside from that, I know it's no MDX Type-S but seriously Honda you need to fix the throttle response. Otherwise it's a great family hauler and excellent on road trips especially when you use the lane keep assist.

[@klvnpremium853]

also the reason I bought this car was because of their in-depth video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHvJl6Cff95gf68 Safety is a top concern as I have 2 small kids and the amount of engineering put into this to futureproof against heavier EV cars beat out the competition like the Palisade/Telluride and Highlander. See 10:57 from that video

[@AdamSammin-y4p]

As someone looking for a large(r) 3 row SUV and being a current Pilot owner (2016 Touring), would you please review the Chevy Traverse and the Tahoe? I'd love to see the comparison between the 2 Chevys and between the Traverse and the new Pilot.

[@valdius85]

For me, it’s a good looking SUV. I wished H offered something with their advanced AWD outside of NA.

[@nlxsteve]

I wonder if the transmission hesitation you’re feeling is related to the cylinder deactivation system. My old 2011 Odyssey developed a really bad hesitancy and stutter that appeared as a transmission issue. Once I installed a cylinder deactivation defeat device, it fixed it all.

[@zareff]

I recognize those Barrington roads :) another great review. The brake by wire syatem in the honda/acura suvs are way too soft and dont do well with repeated hard stops. It only gets worse if youre rolling on winter threads.