2024 Kia EV9 vs Kia Telluride - Worth the $15k Difference?

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TheStraightPipes

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@jeffs6090
@jeffs6090 9 ай бұрын
I think it's dumb that the top trims only come with captains chairs. You should be able to option a bench. There are many people who want the top trim with all the goodies and have kids to haul.
@richardnavratil9661
@richardnavratil9661 9 ай бұрын
I'm guessing potentially something to do with heated and cooled 2nd row and that might be more difficult on the bench vs individual chairs? I don't disagree tho.
@deansmits006
@deansmits006 9 ай бұрын
Yeah I've seen this time to time. I don't get it
@blackwhirlwind1245
@blackwhirlwind1245 9 ай бұрын
@@richardnavratil9661Pilot and MDX have removable center seat and they still have heated seats for the 2nd row just not the removable center seat.
@klausschwab11
@klausschwab11 9 ай бұрын
I work in the industry for 15 years. It is because 98% of the time these customers demand captains seats. No matter the brand. They also demand other non practical things like large SUVs all the time but I digress. Most of these buyers only haul themselves. They just like to "feel safe"
@jakes5530
@jakes5530 9 ай бұрын
Or dogs… how tf do they expect a dog to lay down on with a big ole gap in the middle
@beardown6574
@beardown6574 9 ай бұрын
Really like the EV9 and the overall design. Kia has done a nice job with their EV lineup. That ergo-motion feature is super cool as somebody who gets stiff while driving lol
@kfx3907
@kfx3907 9 ай бұрын
That EV9 looks gorgeous.
@ellishoke1693
@ellishoke1693 9 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 shut up
@ellishoke1693
@ellishoke1693 9 ай бұрын
@@kennyb123 good thing I didn’t ask you, hush
@ellishoke1693
@ellishoke1693 9 ай бұрын
@@kennyb123 I don’t like EVs.
@ellishoke1693
@ellishoke1693 9 ай бұрын
@@kennyb123 damn right, you’re part of the problem.
@rdmz135
@rdmz135 9 ай бұрын
​@@ellishoke1693who let you out of the asylum
@gregkramer5588
@gregkramer5588 9 ай бұрын
I love the new shift lever they Hyundai/Kia have been using. So easy and no space taken up in the console! Both of these are just great vehicles! I would consider the EV9 for myself. Yuri made me laugh with the 10-15 years comment!
@JosephDiegoDiamante
@JosephDiegoDiamante 6 ай бұрын
Loved my Telluride, but my new EV9 is in a totally different category. This thing is BEAST, I couldn’t believe how amazing this thing is and since I haven’t had it for long it still continues to surprise me with its features. So far so Kool… Let’s see in a few years.
@asradazero
@asradazero 9 ай бұрын
The EV9 is such a cool car. The power, size of the space, practicality, design are amazing. If you go camping, you can use electricity as much as you want at home. The Ev9 is such a nice car.
@DannerBanks
@DannerBanks 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for this comparison! Been waiting for it. My biggest surprise: less third row room in the EV9. Would have never guessed
@deansmits006
@deansmits006 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, both are the same length, yet the EV platform doesn't seem to be taking advantage of packaging benefits.
@TheStraightPipes
@TheStraightPipes 9 ай бұрын
Same!
@yobb1n544
@yobb1n544 9 ай бұрын
I FEEL you guys on the weather here in Ontario 😮‍💨Love how the videos are still upbeat and enthusiastic in spite of it!
@richardnavratil9661
@richardnavratil9661 9 ай бұрын
Headlights on in the fog boys, come on! :)
@TheStraightPipes
@TheStraightPipes 9 ай бұрын
Drl all day everyday. Car reviewer rules
@PotatoPardner
@PotatoPardner 9 ай бұрын
@@TheStraightPipesKia’s drl’s are the best! K5 is sick
@carsbykev7037
@carsbykev7037 9 ай бұрын
@@TheStraightPipes I hope that’s a joke?! When I walk into a public place on rainy / foggy days I literally announce “Headlights on in the fog / rain so that people can see you!” 😂 It turns on your taillights, which is important…DRLs don’t. Please tell me you’re aware of this? 😂
@ulsanenggg
@ulsanenggg 9 ай бұрын
@@carsbykev7037They have their parking lights on. Their taillights should be on too.
@carsbykev7037
@carsbykev7037 9 ай бұрын
@@ulsanenggg Yes, I think you are correct! I didn’t notice the rear lights in the video 😂. I was just making sure as it’s a “bothersome quirk” for me 😆
@carsbykev7037
@carsbykev7037 9 ай бұрын
Hey, we bought one of these. You can move the floor-board to a down position and it opens up a well like a minivan behind the 3rd seat in the Telluride. It's WAY bigger. I'll put a video up. Drove the EV9 when we picked up the Telluride at the beginning of January. The Telluride is MUCH larger inside. It's immediately noticeable, which they kind of mention. The 3rd row fits adults quite well. The frunk in the EV9 only fits like a backpack. So, the tech in them is AMAZING. It seems like they carbon-copied BMW. All of the configurability of our 2019 X7. Cameras are amazing. Telluride drives PERFECT. We dumped a 2024 Mazda CX-90 PHEV after 7 months and 15k miles to get the Telluride and it's as amazing as all the reviewers say. I'm a selective Carguy and it's one of the best vehicles I've ever bought my wife. We put 3k miles on it this first month. It changes lanes on Cruise by itself better than my Model S Plaid. And, IT ONLY COST $53,500 fully loaded including tow package. We were cross shopping with Jeep Wagoneer, Yukon, and TX and I couldn't justify paying the premium after experiencing the Telluride. The Grand Highlander was a contender, but it was BLAND even in Platinum trim, but still cost $8-$10k more.
@klausschwab11
@klausschwab11 9 ай бұрын
No way you get rid of a CX-90 for a Kia. That was a poor decision. I work at Kia and they are trash all around. Go ahead and keep it for a couple years you will see. The tech is not amazing like you like to claim, in fact there is nothing special about any Kia. All the tech is available in all the other brands except Kia like to make them "fancy" by putting large screens and piano black trim everywhere. People are so easily tricked. I have over a hundred 2-4 year old Kias with blown engines and electrical issues galore piling up in service because the cars have the worst quality control I have ever witnessed. I have worked around many brands my whole life and Kia is the most awful. Never seen a Mazda with the problems Kia has, or BMW and BMW are not known for reliability these days. Just wait until the electronics like your dash and various buttons start malfunctioning in the Telluride. It will happen sooner than later.
@paybax
@paybax 9 ай бұрын
@@klausschwab11You haven’t seen a problem with Mazda as you don’t work for Mazda like you do for Kia 🤷‍♂️
@klausschwab11
@klausschwab11 9 ай бұрын
@@paybax I worked for Mazda for 8 years. Try again
@gregp.7148
@gregp.7148 9 ай бұрын
@@klausschwab11how many years have you worked at Kia?
@klausschwab11
@klausschwab11 9 ай бұрын
@@gregp.7148 Over a year. Been in the industry over 15 years. Kia has never made a reliable product period. All throw away appliances.
@doggedlydetermined7022
@doggedlydetermined7022 9 ай бұрын
I really appreciate the mini races in these comparisons. Always cool to see the differences
@edkwon
@edkwon 9 ай бұрын
I own a Telluride and test drove an EV9, overall interior space is near identical, however they chose to increase the cargo space behind the 3rd row in the back of the EV9 at the expense of the 3rd row leg room, and it's the opposite in the Telluride where the 3rd row legroom is great but the behind the 3rd row storage is worse than the EV9
@williamerazo3921
@williamerazo3921 8 ай бұрын
Storage is my go to. Hardly anyone sits in the 3rd row
@quinnthompson
@quinnthompson 9 ай бұрын
I remember that foggy day, it was intense! Great review, thanks!
@vesmight7982
@vesmight7982 9 ай бұрын
I'm not an SUV fan (wagons go brrrr), but I can't deny that EV9 looks stellar. Trim that down into a wagon form factor and you wouldn't be able to stop me from buying. Can also tell how recently this was filmed just by the fog lmao
@JayRM714
@JayRM714 7 ай бұрын
Telluride still looks cooler. Dont regret getting my 2024
@Charles-Emile
@Charles-Emile 9 ай бұрын
Great comparison! I was at Montreal auto show last week and sat in both these vehicules and I was very impressed by the ev9. It feels like a luxury vehicle.
@JordanCheyneComedy
@JordanCheyneComedy 9 ай бұрын
For 80k it better feel like luxury!
@miljan86
@miljan86 9 ай бұрын
I'm sure someone has suggested this already for EVs. Take the avg mileage per kwh and multiply it by the battery to get an actual range estimate for the reviews. Keep up the good work boys!
@Ficon
@Ficon 2 ай бұрын
320 miles for me so far based on average consumption (EPA 280).
@phunk8607
@phunk8607 9 ай бұрын
from hot sunshine aussie summer, love seeing the foggy snowy weather...
@henryalton8119
@henryalton8119 7 ай бұрын
Really sucks to see all these manufacturers introduce paid subscriptions to access features that should be standard and have been in the past
@MrJudgi
@MrJudgi 9 ай бұрын
Really nice video :)) I really like most of the current cars Kia has, just sad, that they discontinued the Rio and I preferred the old Niro compared to the new one, maybe I’ll buy one in the near future.
@bawintermage8351
@bawintermage8351 9 ай бұрын
I just saw the Kia and was surprised at how handsome the vehicle is in person.
@russellanderson6354
@russellanderson6354 8 ай бұрын
A Hybrid Telluride would be great !
@timscott3027
@timscott3027 9 ай бұрын
I actually really appreciate the way you guys review these cars and give us your honest opinions and experience both good and bad of evs and petrol cars. So many channels out there just slagging off evs even if thier decent and others praising all evs even if they're dog shit. Please dont stop x
@PhillMcRevis
@PhillMcRevis 2 ай бұрын
Just under a month with our Land EV9 and love it. Skip the power rear seats as they are sooooooo slow when moving them. I think it handles well for its weight. Even my wife enjoys driving it and she isn’t a fan of large vehicles.
@jrod237
@jrod237 9 ай бұрын
Yes, you are more hardcore than the British Auto Reviews. Love this video & channel!
@TheStraightPipes
@TheStraightPipes 9 ай бұрын
Hardcooorrrreeeeee
@JoshuaBetz
@JoshuaBetz 8 ай бұрын
which is better, brand new telluride or brand new pallisade? top trims
@Kylehoulihan
@Kylehoulihan 9 ай бұрын
I recently got a VW Atlas and I got the top trim with the bench seat. Very annoying that so many had captain seats. But at least I got what I wanted.
@EricTungCom
@EricTungCom 9 ай бұрын
Hard stop on automotive micro transactions.
@TheStraightPipes
@TheStraightPipes 9 ай бұрын
Yup
@literarypharaoh1117
@literarypharaoh1117 4 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed this video Good job guys. The concept of simultaneous driving while doing the review in real time is/was amazing.
@TheStraightPipes
@TheStraightPipes 4 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@AndrewMalkin
@AndrewMalkin 9 ай бұрын
Missing buttons and knobs is a dealbreaker for me. I would definitely choose the Telluride for that reason alone. I don't want to take my eyes off the road to do things and voice commands are not an acceptable replacement.
@MLHunt
@MLHunt 9 ай бұрын
Hyundai/Kia full-size SUV design was a revelation when they first shipped, and the design has held up. They still look good.
@rbarbetta1978
@rbarbetta1978 8 ай бұрын
I feel ya Yuri... I feel ya. Telluride for me if I had to choose. Actually just bought a new 2023 Atlas SEL Premium R-Line this year and been super happy with it.
@MLHunt
@MLHunt 9 ай бұрын
If public charging is really generally as broken in Ontario as you guys experience it then it's just not time yet for EVs there.
@therealcdnuser
@therealcdnuser 9 ай бұрын
Well in defence they always go to the same unreliable EV charger in their area. It’s bad, but not as bad as they make it seem. I stick to the new IVY network or Flo. Watch an intense trip in the worst part of the Canadian winter in a Fisker Ocean by Bruce MacNeil
@hugolafhugolaf
@hugolafhugolaf 9 ай бұрын
It will never be time for EVs. They are just awful.
@MLHunt
@MLHunt 9 ай бұрын
@@therealcdnuser thanks for the reply. You provide helpful context. It seems to me that, for some reason, very few people are capable of expressing neutral, disinterested opinions on the issue of EV charging and on EVs in general. People whose other expressed opinions suggest they may harbor a general animus toward EVs seem to me to overstate their downsides, while many EV fans seem reluctant to admit everything about them isn't perfect. I guess it's just human nature. People are often irrationally (it seems to me) emotional about cars and other personal technology items.
@MLHunt
@MLHunt 9 ай бұрын
@@hugolafhugolaf really? How so?
@hugolafhugolaf
@hugolafhugolaf 9 ай бұрын
@@MLHunt Range drops by 30% in cold weather Costs and duration of charging on public networks Spontaneous combustion Rising insurance rates Repair costs Depreciation Awful environmental impact before you actually use them I could go on and on... they're terrible. Increases our dependance on China I wouldn't hate them so much if they weren't forced upon us, especially as a «green» solution- which they aren't.
@tastytreats6195
@tastytreats6195 9 ай бұрын
EV9 dash looks way to busy, guess you would eventually get used to it but quick glances would be bothersome. I have a 2020 Telluride SX, not perfect but would still take it over the EV9 for day to day use.
@gregp.7148
@gregp.7148 9 ай бұрын
If you guys thought that this KIA EV9 has weird buttons then look at any Tesla, which has no buttons at all. (I know, it has some on the steering wheel.) Either way, we got used cell phones without buttons (no home button or keyboards).
@therealcdnuser
@therealcdnuser 9 ай бұрын
Watch Bruce MacNeil use the Ontario charging network in -20 with the new Fisker Ocean. EV charging is not great in Ontario but it can still be done a lot easier now. When are you guys going on an EV road trip again like you did with the Ioniq’s???? That would be cool.
@Ficon
@Ficon 2 ай бұрын
Wind trim is the way to go - second row bench, 19s with more sidewall, flat black exterior trim that won’t pick up the scratches.
@arcticthundergamer113
@arcticthundergamer113 9 ай бұрын
I Usually skip all EV Video's but this one is kinda cool
@snakeeyes9246
@snakeeyes9246 9 ай бұрын
Because you are realizing that the planet is dying?
@mcnuggetapple
@mcnuggetapple 9 ай бұрын
@@snakeeyes9246shut up lol
@NassaKB
@NassaKB 8 ай бұрын
What did you say about the Android Auto on the Telluride ? is it not wireless? Even the 2024 ?
@perlundin86
@perlundin86 9 ай бұрын
You guys should come to Sweden and do an electric car road trip. Then you would see how easy it is.
@jeremykemmerer7743
@jeremykemmerer7743 8 ай бұрын
Great video except - the replacement price of the battery is the price of the car? Come on guys. Obviously not. Plus, you know, the whole warranty thing.
@trap_autostudio
@trap_autostudio 9 ай бұрын
Hyundai & Kia is still struggling with setting of heavy RWD base SUV. For EX like GV80 or EV9. They should have air suspension. Driving feeling is still too bad. Their RWD sedan is of course the best in the industry like stinger or G80. I don’t suggest to purchase EV9, still take telluride.
@Bobstone2131
@Bobstone2131 9 ай бұрын
Would love to have a factory 3rd row delete and off road trim. I want the size for cargo room, not passenger seats. Otherwise a great car.
@GibsonBuck
@GibsonBuck 9 ай бұрын
Is it me or public charging in Ontario sucks?? Here in QC i had one experience of a charger not working.
@krugerdave
@krugerdave 2 ай бұрын
TSP seem to consistently find all of the broken chargers, or at least not mention any functioning ones that they come across. I used to really like this channel, but man, they do spread a certain amount of EV FUD, despite also trying to be/appear neutral. An what the hell was that BS at the end about replacing the battery? Who ever needs to do that? And how much will a new gas tank, engine and transmission for the Telluride cost‽ 🙄 The Korean record for batteries has been industry leading, for the record.
@sleekblackroadster
@sleekblackroadster 9 ай бұрын
They should do an efficiency rating for comparing both those burnouts
@lewisdesotoart
@lewisdesotoart 5 ай бұрын
I finally decided on the Telluride. The EV9 pitching around like a boat on a lake was making me nauseous. The Telluride has the same seat massage function in the SX-Prestige.
@georgeanderson4239
@georgeanderson4239 9 ай бұрын
This was such great video guys, felt informative and fluid
@blue_lancer_es
@blue_lancer_es 9 ай бұрын
So the similarly sized gas one is 15k less? Telluride all day.
@Massi_TI
@Massi_TI 9 ай бұрын
You know that the 15k$ is your gas cost for 4-5 years. With maintenance added, its surely less than 5.
@cypvh74
@cypvh74 9 ай бұрын
Telluride at like 20mpg would cost me ~$3,000/yr to fuel. Vs about $500/yr for the EV9. Makes up that $15k in 6 years.
@cypvh74
@cypvh74 9 ай бұрын
When they start building it in the US, US buyers will get $7500 off, cutting that price difference down quite a bit.
@mjsabie8517
@mjsabie8517 7 ай бұрын
@@cypvh74 Then you have to take into account oil changes, brakes wearing out faster etc....the cost of driving an EV is soooo much cheaper IF you can charge at home. If you have to rely on public charging there is not a huge cost savings for driving.
@banstaman
@banstaman 9 ай бұрын
Hyundai and Kia really dropped the ball with easy to use and functional interiors. They used to be so easy to understand and straightforward.
@UnknownCharacter-n9v
@UnknownCharacter-n9v 9 ай бұрын
I dont know about Kia's but Hyundai interiors are not difficult to understand unless you are naturally slow minded
@J26-e6g
@J26-e6g 9 ай бұрын
Your reviews are the best! You Both have huge kiwis for driving fast in that weather. I just bought an ev9 GT for my wife and it is fantastic. You get so much car for the money. The haptic buttons are adjustable, your tester has it set in hard push. I set mine on soft big difference. Also the climate control has a little cross in the upper right when you tap it, the climate controls expand across the whole screen. Once you learn this car, all the technology makes sense. I was also able to get a full electronics and battery extended transferable warranty from Kia for a full 100k miles and 10 years for just $2700.
@morstyrannis1951
@morstyrannis1951 9 ай бұрын
Not impressed with the terms of that warranty. How many people only drive 10K miles annually? That’s more like a six year warranty maximum for the average driver.
@PaulCuenin
@PaulCuenin 4 ай бұрын
Just got a EV9 and love it
@ltp9113
@ltp9113 3 ай бұрын
Do we get tax credit on Ev9?
@KarmicPatina
@KarmicPatina 9 ай бұрын
The suspension on electric cars must be hydraulic or air. Anything else and the weight of the car causes it to be quite bouncy. So much so, I traded my Model Y for a Lexus RX450h
@JorJorBinks123
@JorJorBinks123 9 ай бұрын
Funny that I’m working on a Telluride the day this review comes out. 🤙
@indo-canadian626
@indo-canadian626 9 ай бұрын
Telluride owner since 2020.. and keeping it!
@dbeckMSP
@dbeckMSP 9 ай бұрын
is the fingerprint reader cool? my car has a button that i push to get my seat and stuff to my settings versus my wife's. don't see why storing a fingerprint is better
@cardenas333
@cardenas333 Ай бұрын
Telluride plug in coming soon?
@OlyMar83
@OlyMar83 8 ай бұрын
I believe the best way to utilise an EV is to charge at home, general use case would be for example for this EV9, travel no further than 210kms so you can make it back given its range is around 445kms. Charging at public chargers are there for emergencies only. But hey, there are people who make it work with longer distances.
@TheLastMoccasin
@TheLastMoccasin 8 ай бұрын
They will get access to the Supercharger network soon, and then all will be fine.
@ragweedmakesmesneeze
@ragweedmakesmesneeze 9 ай бұрын
The googly-eye button hack is brilliant. I hope someone from Hyundai/Kia see this.
@lewisdesotoart
@lewisdesotoart 4 ай бұрын
I decided on the Telluride. The EV9 left and right jiggly ride was making me ill. Also Telluride had more room which I was looking for. Controls on the gas model were more intuitive.
@toddbevan
@toddbevan 9 ай бұрын
I think if you're in North America and you already have access to massive 3.8 V6 SUVs, the EV9 looks fresh and new. But here in Britain, the Telluride wins instantly. We get tons of microwaves with wheels here but full size SUVs with big engines are rare, never as big, and usually extremely expensive.
@user-JAL24
@user-JAL24 9 ай бұрын
9:31 to 9:36 I knew Jacob will like Kia EV9 more than the noise of Kia telluride
@uludak8468
@uludak8468 8 ай бұрын
Sandy Munro teared down the Ioniq 5. the battery is structured in multiple modules, each easily to replace. easier than Teslas Model 3/Y where the batterymodules are glued to the frame. a damage doesn't require the entire battery to be replaced, only the defective ones. there is no way the battery can cause the insane amount of cost from an engineering standpoint.
@MLHunt
@MLHunt 9 ай бұрын
Are the Hyundai/Kia remote features tied to a subscription?
@jjqq2743
@jjqq2743 9 ай бұрын
No
@MLHunt
@MLHunt 9 ай бұрын
@@jjqq2743 thanks, good to know
@mjsabie8517
@mjsabie8517 7 ай бұрын
Not yet....don't give them any ideas....
@southkiddJ
@southkiddJ 6 ай бұрын
In the US, at least where I am, the EV9 is not selling well. Plenty of inventory on just about every Kia lot. I guess that happens when people aren’t willing to lease or even finance 65K Kias
@aelaan12
@aelaan12 9 ай бұрын
There has been much written about the acceptance of EV, and with our current "winter" I would still opt for the Telluride. It has the big gas engine, drinks normal fuel, but both cars are way too expensive to consider. With the winter in the USA, and all EV's sitting on the charger in Chicago, it still proves the point of going fossil fuel and not the unacceptable high cost of an EV.
@deansmits006
@deansmits006 9 ай бұрын
Drinks normal fuel? Weird flex...
@Visualhead_Spacer
@Visualhead_Spacer 9 ай бұрын
anti EV propaganda is overblown tbh. 95% of the time throughout the year, we get great to good weather. Some areas EVs works a lot better than others especially warmer climates like CA or Florida.
@ryanhoving8024
@ryanhoving8024 9 ай бұрын
Having to pay to get the ev9 headlights to do different patterns is the dumbest thing. Just to squeeze us a little bit more
@kylegrant4303
@kylegrant4303 2 ай бұрын
now they have incentives and some dealerships seling GTline only about 2k more than the tellruide
@_dmfd
@_dmfd 9 ай бұрын
We've been getting all that fog down here in Ohio too it's been wild. I'm still not ready for an EV tho. The EV9 is kinda ugly imo, but I had really thought my first EV was gonna be the EV6 GT, but ended up going with an A4 Allroad Prestige. The EV6 GT was in my price range but it cuts back on a lot of dailyable features for performance, & just lacks features I want in a daily like Ventilated seats, which is weird bc like 99% of Hyundai & Kia models offer cooled seats, but also no full panoramic sunroof. The A4 Allroad didn't compromise much in very many areas, has great performance for a family ICE wagon (0-60 5s, qtr mile like 13.6 at 106mph or something) & still has all the features I want. It's a smaller wagon but much nicer & larger than my current GT Sport hatchback. Maybe after my lease is up ill start looking into EVs, but as of now I'm still not ready to jump
@TheLastMoccasin
@TheLastMoccasin 8 ай бұрын
Ventilated seat!!! I agree haha. Been waiting years for Tesla to finally bring them to the 3/Y models, so happy to see they made it into the refreshed Model 3.
@qers
@qers 7 ай бұрын
The Telluride reminds me of a facelifted '07 Yukon Denali.
@ftwtech
@ftwtech 8 ай бұрын
That googly eye trick is actually genius
@reidkarges6199
@reidkarges6199 9 ай бұрын
That EV9 is going to depreciate like crazy! I would guess that those will be 20k in 6 years.
@klausschwab11
@klausschwab11 9 ай бұрын
We sell them with huge markups lol. Customers are always upset about how upside down they are on their cars now but they keep buying anyway.
@RatBürgerSk8
@RatBürgerSk8 9 ай бұрын
Depreciation hits EVs insanely hard because battery degradation is an inevitability, regardless of how much the vehicle is used. It's not like you could garage one of these for a decade like a Corvette and still have it working in tip top shape, the battery will be significantly degraded by then.
@UnknownCharacter-n9v
@UnknownCharacter-n9v 9 ай бұрын
saving the earth from pollution is very very expensive
@mjsabie8517
@mjsabie8517 7 ай бұрын
@@RatBürgerSk8 you really don't know what you are talking about in terms of battery degradation. It really is very minimal. Also, there is no way you could garage a gas car for 10 years and have it working in tip top shape
@JamesM-hb2cj
@JamesM-hb2cj 9 ай бұрын
Personally I think the whole gas vs EV argument is silly. Both have their purpose and pros and cons, I wish the EV fanboys would understand why EVs don't make good sports cars, and I wish ICE fans would acknowledge the obvious benefits of EVs when it comes to daily drivers. I say this as an enthusiast myself, I've owned several manual transmission sports cars including my current c7 Vette. And I'm telling you, when it comes to daily drivers, a well-executed EV is simply better. We have a Jaguar I-PACE EV as our daily driver. This replaced our 970 Panamera Turbo (both of which we bought used btw), a car that most ICE fans would probably agree is a pretty good daily driver in its own right. And I can honestly say the Jag is better in every single way. I don’t miss the Panamera one bit, neither does the wife. With the Jag, there’s no automatic transmission to get confused around town, never getting into a hot or cold car with preconditioning, there’s insane instant torque, the smoothness and refinement is unmatched (not only because no engine noise but also because the 1000 pound battery insulates you from road noise), the use of space is excellent (small on the outside and big on the inside because no engine), low center of gravity, naturally perfect weight distribution, being able to blow by anyone in traffic anytime, never being in the wrong gear, way more efficient, never being late because I had to stop for gas, no maintenance, quicker than most v8 family cars and more efficient than i-4 family cars, etc etc. And even though on paper the panamera was faster 0-60, in real life around town it’s not even close - the Jag would be gone before the panamera would even get into the right gear. Yes, it can be annoying on road trips - but it's not the end of the world unless you road trip all the time. It's the better car 364 days of the year, and the worse car 1 day of the year. Having said all of that, like I said I'm an enthusiast, and we also have two sports cars (manual transmission c7 corvette stingray and an R56 Mini Cooper JCW, both of which I frequently use for road rallys and autocross), and I have no desire for either of those to be electric. The whole point of those cars is a visceral, loud, lightweight, connected experience with a manual transmission. I know there is a Boxster EV coming soon and I’m sure it’ll be great and smoke my c7 around any racetrack, but I have no interest at all, even as a current EV owner. Sports cars should be gas powered and manual IMO. So as I said, each has their purpose. I don’t see myself ever going back to gas for daily driver, and I don’t see myself ever going EV for sports cars. My point is simple: EVs are better at some things, and gas cars are better at some things. "Taking a side" doesn't make sense, even for enthusiasts. Just acknowledge what the other is better at. EVs dont work for everyone (you need a place to charge and can't road trip all the time etc etc), but if it works in your lifestyle - try it before you knock it is all I'm saying. You might be surprised. And like I said - just because a car is EV doesn't make it good. There are good EVs and bad ones, just like gas cars. For example, I' not a huge Tesla fan. But, the well-executed EVs are, in my opinion, the best daily drivers, if they fit into your lifestyle. ...and this is coming from someone that's 37 currently on his 8th manual transmission sports car (Vette, Mini JCW, 350Z, etc etc). And to be clear - these are my favorite cars, not the I-PACE. But, I have a wife and a kid, and we need something that isn't manual and has a back seat. And in that category, the Jag is by far and away the best we've had.
@hacob2004
@hacob2004 9 ай бұрын
Not having to deal with automatic transmissions and having instant torque is probably the number one reason that I'm considering an EV. I still have an older toyota SUV with a five speed transmission and that thing is more pleasant to drive around town than these new cars with 8-10 gears that can't ever decide which one it wants to be in and only giving you like 800rpm from each gear to maximize efficiency.
@nicholassmith7048
@nicholassmith7048 9 ай бұрын
13:39 you can't adjust your seat while driving?!? That's an immediate dealbreaker.
@TheStraightPipes
@TheStraightPipes 9 ай бұрын
The seat presets
@krane15
@krane15 9 ай бұрын
Ridiculous too.
@Honda_sev
@Honda_sev 9 ай бұрын
Amazing Super Troopers reference.
@Bmontepeque11
@Bmontepeque11 8 ай бұрын
The Telluride was decently good looking :) But the EV9 is GORGEOUS. 🥰❤️
@miketong4969
@miketong4969 9 ай бұрын
Not being able to adjust the seats while driving is a deal breaker for me. Its not that I adjust them all the time in my car, its that on longer drives I adjust the seat slightly every so often to relive pain points.
@TheStraightPipes
@TheStraightPipes 9 ай бұрын
You can adjust them. Just not set the memory or recall memory positions
@miketong4969
@miketong4969 9 ай бұрын
@@TheStraightPipes ah my bad... yea that seemed like a really big miss
@KevLaswiss-c4u
@KevLaswiss-c4u 9 ай бұрын
The EV9 is a nice car, but I wonder what Tesla does definitely over other charger setups as Tesla o be the gold standard when it comes to charging there a van we do not get in Canada it's the Xpeng X9 Sports van
@hacob2004
@hacob2004 9 ай бұрын
It's like Windows vs Mac. Macs work extremely well because everything is built to work within a specific ecosystem, whereas windows, while more open, has to work with tons of different hardware and is more likely to run into issues. Tesla control the charging and the vehicle being charged in the case of superchargers. Although that's already starting to change as they open up to different auto makers but I've already seen issues with non tesla vehicles communicating with superchargers.
@seanlo941
@seanlo941 9 ай бұрын
Very nice video. BTW I think you should split up the sponsors more, if it's a short thing, I'll listen, but it just went on and on from.
@Francis.Rivers
@Francis.Rivers 9 ай бұрын
I saw the interior of the EV9 at the LA autoshow. Its really cool. But, i think i would prefer Telluride. It feels bigger
@thegaminghydra592
@thegaminghydra592 9 ай бұрын
Aside from how it looks from the outside, I really don't see any reason to get the EV9 over the Telluride
@msrr8151
@msrr8151 9 ай бұрын
Telluride looks fantastic
@randomname9758
@randomname9758 8 ай бұрын
Waiting for the EV5. It's worth 15k difference. Depends on how much you would use on gas. If it's about 400 bucks a month then yes, in about 5 years you'll pay for itself.
@davidgarces39
@davidgarces39 9 ай бұрын
I kinda wish I was there with that weather. I've been melting with temperatures around 100 f / 40 c where I live
@bgpnu
@bgpnu 9 ай бұрын
You should add weight to HP and T. Even for petrol vehicles would be interesting…
@elliot9634
@elliot9634 9 ай бұрын
the capacitive touch solution had me weak 😂
@spacefreeze
@spacefreeze 9 ай бұрын
On my Kia ev gt line on a full charge I’m getting 345 miles/555 kilometers of range
@klausschwab11
@klausschwab11 9 ай бұрын
As someone who works at a KIA dealer I find that claim awfully ambitious. Best I have seen out of any EV Kia produces is about 270 miles real world range.
@spacefreeze
@spacefreeze 9 ай бұрын
@@klausschwab11 would you like me to send you a picture of it?
@klausschwab11
@klausschwab11 9 ай бұрын
@@spacefreeze Computer range and real world range are completely different. I have noticed the computer range will always tell you more than you will get in the real world as it is estimating an ideal driving situation which is still ambitious from all the customers who have driven these things tens of thousands of miles. One guy I know that comes in from time to time likes to talk about his hypermiling experience with his EV6 and he can't get 300 on a charge in the most ideal drive even though his computer will tell him he will get more.
@spacefreeze
@spacefreeze 9 ай бұрын
@@klausschwab11 I’m not hypermiling I don’t know what the other guy is doing but my miles driven have been consistent with how many miles I’m getting on every charge. The car estimates how much you get on how your driving so it’s not gonna give you more miles if you drive like shit
@mjsabie8517
@mjsabie8517 7 ай бұрын
@@klausschwab11 Range GREATLY depends on driving. It is known that Hyundai/Kia are conservative with range estimates unlike Tesla. If the OP is doing mainly in town commuting for driving I could see this easily. I have a Mach E and will get about 250 miles on the freeway but can get about 400 miles if my wife is just using it to go back and forth to work.
@kevinxu9435
@kevinxu9435 9 ай бұрын
We all know Kia and HyundaiI are under the same company, but I don't think you should put them together when talking about battery repair or replacement.
@TheStraightPipes
@TheStraightPipes 9 ай бұрын
The battery cost on an EV6 is the same as an Ioniq 5
@GoSolarPlz
@GoSolarPlz 9 ай бұрын
You should also compare estimated total purchase and fuelling and maintenance costs over a 3-5 year period for both vehicles to properly compare the cost between an electric vs gas vehicle.
@Alejandro-ut4up
@Alejandro-ut4up 9 ай бұрын
It really depends on your local fuel and electricity. But lets say you are paying $1.30 a liter for gas and 10 cents per kW to charge at home. Telluride would cost 15.2 cents per km, while the EV9 AWD at the EPA rating of 41kW/100 miles(160km) would cost 2.5 cents per km if you mostly charged at home. Assuming your drove the average 24,000 km x 5 years =120,000 km total. The EV9 would save you $15,240 over 5 years. Maintenance for both vehicles should be pretty much similar.
@GoSolarPlz
@GoSolarPlz 9 ай бұрын
@@Alejandro-ut4up except no oil changes for the EV :)
@mjsabie8517
@mjsabie8517 7 ай бұрын
@@Alejandro-ut4up How do you figure maintenance would be similar? EV9 will have no oil changes, no brake replacements (if you use 1 pedal driving), no transmission flush, no spark plugs to replace, and no serpentine belt to break (just to name a few)....the only thing that would cost more on the EV9 is the tires and that isn't bad as long as you don't drive like an idiot. I have about 9500 miles on my EV and the tires look great.
@jakes5530
@jakes5530 9 ай бұрын
EV9 is undoubtedly a great EV suv, but $70k for a Kia is hard to swallow. Also its range is not class competitive. Id rather have a used Rivian R1S for the same price tbh
@aaronvekua3227
@aaronvekua3227 9 ай бұрын
probably mentioned many times already - really amazing how Jakub looks like Mate Rimac's twin brother
@TheStraightPipes
@TheStraightPipes 9 ай бұрын
Equally as smart and rich
@GoSolarPlz
@GoSolarPlz 9 ай бұрын
Most people don’t drive a gas vehicle from full to empty on a single trip. Neither do ev drivers. 99% of evs charge overnight at cheaper hydro rates. The fast chargers are only used in road trips. I can count the number of times I’ve used fast chargers owning evs since 2017, on both hands. Yes there are some that don’t work but you can always find one somewhere that works. I’ve never been stranded on a road trip in my non Tesla ev. Non tesla evs can now charge at some Tesla superchargers, which are fast and always work. The number of superchargers that a non tesla ev can use is expanding across North America
@raymondu99
@raymondu99 9 ай бұрын
I’m waiting on Hyundai’s EV9 counterpart vs their Palisade review
@user-zx8de8op9l
@user-zx8de8op9l 8 ай бұрын
I prefer my 2022 Telluride SX Prestige, over the front end of the 2023.
@dsc9894
@dsc9894 8 ай бұрын
I mean I feel like “I couldn’t get it to charge quick enough, it just didn’t work” would instantly disqualify the EV9 for most people. Like sure it looks nice, but ya know what is nicer? Being able to get home in a timely manner
@TheLastMoccasin
@TheLastMoccasin 8 ай бұрын
They will get Supercharger access soon.
@mjsabie8517
@mjsabie8517 7 ай бұрын
You know whats even nicer....waking up to a charged car ready to go every morning and never having to go to a gas station again. People that complain about EV charging time don't understand how EV's work. With the caveat that you can charge at home. If you don't have easy access to level 2 charging at home or work then EV's are less convinient
@BellaB2B
@BellaB2B 9 ай бұрын
Kia telluride one of the best suv I ever owned
@buttivant87
@buttivant87 8 ай бұрын
Yuri causually throws in the super troopers quote there lol 😂
@PaulCuenin
@PaulCuenin 8 ай бұрын
Ev9 used I am excited about.
@GoSolarPlz
@GoSolarPlz 9 ай бұрын
Charge at the Flo chargers. They always work. The Petro Canada ones don’t
@TheStraightPipes
@TheStraightPipes 9 ай бұрын
Slow as hell and $20 an hour for 50/kWh limit. 🤮
@GoSolarPlz
@GoSolarPlz 9 ай бұрын
Did you try the tesla superchargers? I believe non Tesla evs can now charge at them! They’re fast and always work.
@danmayberry1185
@danmayberry1185 9 ай бұрын
Hilarious retractable door handles to improve aerodynamics on a block of Lego.
@Snerdles
@Snerdles 9 ай бұрын
And freeze shut in the winter!
@PatG-xd8qn
@PatG-xd8qn 9 ай бұрын
​@@Snerdles It's no different than the little door to put gas in any car.
@Snerdles
@Snerdles 9 ай бұрын
@@PatG-xd8qn Which regularly freeze in icy weather... Or my charge port on my PHEV which regularly freezes in icy weather... But at least you can get in to it to start it and move it.
@PatG-xd8qn
@PatG-xd8qn 9 ай бұрын
@@Snerdles Which you can also easily unfreeze in 0,5 second.
@Snerdles
@Snerdles 9 ай бұрын
@@PatG-xd8qn Ah yes with magical fire breath that melts ice. I forgot to use that last time that I had to not charge my car in freezing rain because there was 1/2" of ice covering the door. Yeesh, no wonder people call the delsusionals like you EVangalelicals.
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