[2024] KPOP RAPPER TIER LIST -- *accurate*

[@carkpop]

In order to keep this video from being 4 hours long, I needed to start speed running the rappers at the end ... If you'd like an in detail analysis tier list next year that's SUPER long and goes into detail, like this comment and I won't worry about the video length!

[@Ca-yr2rz]

I actually watch long video for parts, so I don't really care how long-long they are :)

[@ladymoon7327]

please don't worry about the length at all :D The more, the better

[@bmc9154]

From what I've seen Yezi is no longer with a agency, so I think it may be a while until we get something new from her. I also hope Soyeon features on a K-HIPHOP song or smtn and shows off or releases a song where she raps and shows off again

[@Alex3791J]

THE MORE THE MERRIER!!!!!!!!!

[@halim8289]

I love watching your long video!! Cs that means more detailll!!

[@procyon1]

I've been saying this for a year. Jongseob is the Bobby of this generation. He really remids me Bobby's SMTM era.

[@chickenfury2504]

EXACTLY I AGREE AT 1000000000000000...%

[@detergenthwachae]

TOTALLY

[@sammelia1]

Yessss prodigy kid

[@Lalalein]

Agreed!! I'm so glad he's getting attention for his skills!!🥺

[@detergenthwachae]

I feel like Changbin has been playing it safe for a few comebacks and it's a bummer, because he knows, we know, everyone knows that he's capable of much more

[@hermanthegermanmerman]

Lee Knows

[@nattstays]

It was to fit into the song, so the rap doesnt sound out of place because in their early days he had haters say that it felt like his rap didnt fit, but exiting news, he said in 2024 he will explore rap more and learn about rap

[@_Stay_with_me_]

Honestly haters r taking it too far if hes rapping allot people would hate on him for rapping too much and not using vocals but when he uses his vocals more people hate on him for not rapping, let them do what they want

[@detergenthwachae]

@@_Stay_with_me_ are you really calling me hater forsaying he's normal?

[@_Stay_with_me_]

@@detergenthwachae no not u i was talking about the people who hate on them and force their opinions on them

[@hoipersona]

p1harmony are my ults and it makes me so happy seeing Jongseob getting the recognition he deserves. same with Intak!! theyre both really great and they really are such an amazing rapline !! the gap between seob and tak surprised me a bit, but your reasoning makes total sense, coming from someone that's a huge P1ece. The second i heard the rap w the quintuplet in it from Killin' It i absolutely knew you would love it. thanks for this list! you can really tell it's unbiased, that's something people need!

[@Dustinisunderated]

heartbeat drum is the best rap in 2023 too

[@_inasali]

Love seeing the Jongseob appreciation!! He's soooo underrated (as is his group) but he is a very talented and skilled rapper. What he's been doing from such a young age is so impressive and I've never heard a verse of his that hasn't been good or creative. He's still so young so I know it's only up from here. I can't wait to see what more he does and gives us in the following years and I hope he gets his recognition one day!!

[@readingwarlock]

So much hard work poured into your videos. Your channel’s the GOAT. I’m thrilled to see Jongseob rank that high. More K-pop stans need to pay attention to his skill and verses because he is incredible! I don’t have the right words when singing praises for him so I’ll always direct my recos to your vids for in-depth, credible insights. fr the way you were ready to defend him 😆 He’s way too young to be top tier? Nah, if anything, that proves he’s a prodigy.

[@carkpop]

I appreciate the kind words ^^ Thank you so much for watching

[@hani.5079]

Han Jisung is the best rapper in the fourth gen. He is the most versatile and complete rapper. Everything from his lyrics, the Wordplay, his rhyme schemes, flow and tone switches is perfection. On top of that, he is arguably the best in freestyle. He is the khiphop level.

[@von1glik]

I don't know s about rap and even less about Korean rap but when almost every other kpop song rap feels at least a little forced and his just... fits. His rap is...like vocal performance. He plays with his voice like it is a full orchestra. Ive only heard that few times from others (mainly Zico). Han is def my fav Korean rapper that I've hard or know of. That said Changbin can do all of that too and his play on words is as good if not better than Hans. The amount of rhyme schemes he did in s-class and l4... wow. My personal preference goes to Han but probably only because I am in love with his voice. No matter singing, rapping or speaking. Changbins raspy tone can rub me the wrong way sometimes.

[@luckycaster2435]

🗣️🗣️ PREACH BRO

[@Kevin03837]

In my opinion, the best of the 4th gen is Changbin, he is literally just as versatile as Jisung in terms of lyrics and flows, with the difference that Changbin has a much more unique and remarkable delivery, in any case they are both the best of his generation, but I feel that Changbin has really been the best since 2018, styles like Jisung's are more "common" to find in kpop and Korean hip hop in general, however, I have never come across anyone remotely similar to Changbin, he is simply different from everyone.

[@Soroiono]

And soyeon ends

[@Alt-ut8xe]

Han simply the best for 4th gen. He got that skills. He already good in studio version but surprised me his live version way better. His stamina when rapping long verse just unmatched. Han too good and yes he one versatiles rapper. He deserves no 1 top tier

[@2gef4b746sv]

Bobby introduced me to korean hiphop and im still hooked to him, his versatility need no intro but the fact he experiments and come up with something fresh every time is so great like he knows he's got skills to deliver more instead of playing it safe,out of the sheep type he's so interesting and talented ofc Man is never getting outdated

[@Luiz-nh2cv]

I'm really sad about Soeyon's last few years on the rap side, I feel like she doesn't want to be recognised as just a rapper anymore. I hope she releases some more raps like she used to. After the massive attacks on her English raps, I felt she was moving further and further away from that area.

[@carkpop]

Wanting to become just an overall *artist* is absolutely nothing to be ashamed of~ I am rap biased at heart, so it hurts me as well to not have *insane Soyeon raps* each release… but I completely respect her decision if she wants to concentrate more on production and overall artistry~

[@Luiz-nh2cv]

​@@carkpopI agree with you, I love to see that she's becoming more and more of a 100 per cent idol in all areas. I'm looking forward to more of her crazy raps. But because of that fact, I'm increasingly going after meeting new rappers, I'm glad I met jongseob in this case

[@bewitchedia]

it’s a shame when comparing her older raps to her new english ones and seeing such a decline in quality i miss her old style sm 😭

[@deusex9731]

what is always to consider is that a lot of these people and soyeon included, are pretty young still. You cant do everything at top tier level, so you have to start somewhere and if she wants to branch out into other languages, she has to learn it some way or another. I always appreciate when artists branch out, even if it means a short term loss of quality, cause in the long run, things should be even better than before

[@phoenix_renegade]

There's nothing wrong with her English rap. One big problem with K-pop is the solo stans / akgaes. It all started with banal envy. When Soyeon received the < All-rounder > award (and before that she was nominated too), Yuqi solo stans / akgaes began to attack her, flooding KZbin and TikTok with these useless / unprofessional videos comparisons (who is better at vocals, rap and dancing...1,2,3...) with disparagements of her skills. These mentally ill people resumed her as a 'SUPER' dancer and rapper... Sorry, but no. Yuqi is very bad technically both in rap and dancing. This is not only my humble professional opinion, but also the opinion of other professionals related to K-pop. Since recently I have had absolutely zero tolerance for Yuqi solo stans / akgaes too. Just like before, I've had enough of Shuhua & Miyeon solo stans / akgaes freaks (they're the ones who started it) who have been harassing Soyeon for almost six years now. PS. And finally, something positive. In some interview, Soyeon said that her next solo album would be hip-hop. So we're looking forward to it. ♡♡♡

[@squidaddendum]

HAN JISUNG APPRECIATION YAY

[@caitlyngirvin7791]

I love the j.seph appreciation! I really enjoy KARD's music but his verses from their Icky mini album make me wonder what we'd hear from him if he and BM had debuted as a hip--hop duo as they were originally going to.

[@InSomnia4]

Yeahh Been That Boy was on repeat for some time

[@mob0549]

Yeah definitely i agree. He had some outstanding verses that made me wonder what he could have done in that duo. I'm hoping for some solo work but i don't think that we'll get that.

[@JeeUnElyzia]

KIM JONGSEOB of P1Harmony truly, madly, deeply deserves to be in the top 6. Appreciate your recognizing his talent and unique style. He's been rapping and winning (Kpop star) since he was 12, and now he just turned 18 he has honed his amazing craft 💯🔥

[@beatrizguerrero91]

Changbin is the GOAT to me (also my bias) but I kinda agree about him being a little bit to standard the last comebacks. I don't know if he wants to show off like crazy (he doesn't need to do that to be considered one of the best) but i hope so? Imagine a whole mixtape with pure Changbin's insanity. I would cry. And Han, omg my boy is on another level, especially with the flow. He's definitely top tier. About Jongseob, that kid man. He's pure talent. ❤

[@TMC_TimeLine]

Zico and Mino are definitely the top 2 rappers in kpop. But I feel like a lot of people don't put them in lists like these because they're currently more known for their participation in the k-hiphop scene than k-pop scene. And imo putting them up against kpop rappers is like cheating because they're so good. And Bobby is incredible as a 3rd pick. I've never seen an idol rapper stand on stage and rap with such incredible ease. It somehow feels like he isn't even trying and is there just to enjoy the moment, while still out rapping the entire industry. Like, in 99% of live performances with him rapping you can see him smiling and also hear him smiling.

[@Robalexe]

Bobby isn't just an idol rapper, he's a true rapper

[@Lalalein]

Jongseob is one of my ult biases and I always smile from one ear to the other to hear you praise him. He deserves it sooooo much! I'm not the type of fan who just blindly praises their biases but in Seobie's case, he's just that good and that at his young age. I am so excited for everything he'll show us in the future because he truly is a prodigy like you said!!🩷

[@dianasyaf]

sunwoo meet bobby in Mnet Kingdom, thats might be the key point where sunwoo start evolved more. Just watc how bobby direct and help him to find his own sound and style for their song Full DaSH!!

[@applepie3025]

im so happy to see jongseob being appreciated hes such a great rapper what he did in killin it is insane also i love intak's rap too his voice heals my soul idk how to explain it p1harmony has the best rap line (including jiung!!) and i love them sm

[@kellyjelly1680]

Jongseob! People really need to give him and P1harmony a listen. He’s AMAZING!

[@skyhideaway]

love to see the kard appreciation, they've been gaining popularity lately but they still have a long way to go, especially jseph! when you put out the previous ranking videos, i was wondering where jseph would fall and i'm not surprised to see that he's in top tier! i really hope kard would release some rap-heavy songs (especially title tracks) so that he can go all out. he has so much potential that's being held back right now and only showcased in their bsides. and ofc, i really hope he releases a mixtape sometime soon! as a moomoo, what you said about moonbyul is so true too. a lot of idols who are pushed into the rapper role would much rather prefer to rap whatever verse they are given. but moonbyul took the initiative to write her own raps and came up with some really impressive verses, despite not wanting to be a rapper at all. that's true professionalism! and while i adore her singing voice, i do hope that her upcoming album would have some rap-focused songs as well.

[@InSomnia4]

Dumb Litty has a lot of raps but yeah i want a hiphop song from kard

[@skyhideaway]

@@InSomnia4 yeah songs like dumb litty and gunshot did showcase the rap a little more but i would still like a more rap-centered song by them, with more lines for bm and jseph. no hate to the girls ofc but right now it often feels like the guys are just featured artists, and not part of the group. (also jiwoo is a pretty decent rapper as well, i think she'd do well in a hip-hop song)

[@InSomnia4]

@@skyhideaway Yeah I want a song like inferno or been that boy. Jinikka is so good, both j.seph and bm have long and decent rap lines in that song which really shows their rap skills

[@skyhideaway]

@@InSomnia4 yeah, jinikka was pretty good! they got some decent parts in songs like go baby too. i think it would be really cool to have a song where bm, jseph and jiwoo raps, and somin maybe does some simple sing-rapping or just delivers some good vocals for a contrast.

[@InSomnia4]

@@skyhideaway yesss

[@mrsh4671]

DEFINITELY THE BIG 3!!! I hope the collab soon🙏🏼

[@mrsh4671]

We had MOBB, and Mino & Zico. We just need the 3 of them together🥰

[@chipmunk_christine]

Wonhyuk and the struggle of being the best rapper in E'LAST but also the main vocal. Whenever he gets to do both he has like half the lines to himself 😂

[@micai12]

For me, Tag from One Pact is really impressive, I think he has a unique voice (rapping and singing), it catches you because it isn't a very common voice in the industry

[@InSomnia4]

Woodz is a great rapper too. He doesn't rap a lot right now but he first debuted as a rapper. His rap in Trigger is my favorite

[@Ca-yr2rz]

Jongseob top ten yesssssss also JSeph in the top tier?? Omg?? So happy for him

[@angelocaduto1703]

I love that you're always objective in your rankings. Some of my favorite rappers are in the lower tiers! I would love to hear your opinion on the XG rap line. I'm a huge fan of XG so I would love to hear your unbiased opinion and in which tier/tiers you would place them.

[@MoonLight-dx6gf]

If I’m not mistaken - None of the XG girls would go above the Solid tier, because they don’t really write If I remember correctly, Maya and Cocona have written Show You Can, but they did that with like 6 other people so it’s hard to only judge „their skill” with that. Other then that, all of them apparently helped with their Galz Xypher verses, but they key word here is „helped”. They most definitely weren’t the only ones that worked on those verses so again, it’s hard to judge them Just my speculation tho haha

[@carkpop]

It's hard to rank XG... they 100% have really high skill raps.. the problem arises in the fact that we truly don't know how much is self written since in interviews they said that they "Helped write the raps" to the girls Xypher .. so we're really left here wondering how much is actually from them.. Just based on skill alone they'd probably go in "impressive" tier somewhere. Harvey (hot take) is probably the best (although she's my least fave personally) ... Maya & Cocona would be similar, and slightly below her also in "Impressive"... and Jurin would probably go in "Solid", but I might have to give them another listen. *Side note* if they wrote 100% of their raps, they'd 100% go twoards the top of impressive and sneaking into the bottom of "More than impressive, but ... alas... it hasn't happened yet

[@InSomnia4]

@@carkpop But maybe they'll write their own lyrics in the future but their rap skills are good

[@angelocaduto1703]

@@carkpop thank you so much for replying!

[@angelocaduto1703]

@@MoonLight-dx6gf thank you!

[@okhggytrx]

I was hoping that you would make a separate version for boys and girls like last year, but thank you in any case because you made a new list and I really appreciate your effort.

[@carkpop]

I decided to combine them this year because a lot of people were wanting to see the lists together and how they would compare... I might go back to separate lists next year so it's easier to articulate thoughts and such`

[@prettyxikies]

"YECHAN OF XIKERS, the prodigy of 5'th Gen" It's very impressive feat of yechan being in this list as a 18 year old boy. I can't imagine the rapper he will become in the coming years. Also with MINJAE & SUMIN a very perfect TRIO that makes them the strongest rap line in 5'th gen so far.🔥

[@jiungschococh1p]

YESS JONGSEOB!!! he's genuinely so talented and needs to appreciated more for his incredible talent 😭

[@bewitchedia]

love this video i trust ur opinion bcos i feel like ur not biased in ur rankings

[@carkpop]

Thank you!! That means a lot

[@zeinine]

@@carkpop hi there, how about ruka from babymonster? I'm new to this channel and I'm not sure how you rank them.

[@dan.119]

Thank you for acknowledging Tag from One Pact; he's so talented. On their tour in Japan, he had a rap solo, which was so good!!! You need to check it out; he will probably go up on your list as he keeps doing music

[@Alex3791J]

Thanks for all the hard work in research for this, very well done!!!!

[@m20D]

Some people on Reddit were really pissed at this video for saying it's "accurate" on the title. Also very pissed at your system of knocking people down if they haven't done anything interesting recently. But I get why...if you didn't take recency into acc, the list would always be the same and there would be no point in updating it. I only rly stan skz so I'll use Jongseob as an example instead (so I'm not biased there). People were very bothered that he was higher than many 3rd gen big names... now, to me, it doesn't matter that he doesn't have solo work. If you listen to Killin It's verse alone it's undeniable he's insanely skilled and belongs where he is. He stands out in every Piwon song I've heard. Boy is dripping talent, he does more in a few secs than most do in entire songs Accurate tier lists don't exist, but really they're just mad at this list because it dares to put some "unknown" rappers in front of their favs 🙃 They complain you don't take lyrics into consideration as if they're reading any lyrics not written by their favs

[@carkpop]

Yeahhhh I heard about that. I'm doing my best to not give it much more attention than I already have because it's just fans who are upset that "fave ≠ best". Just a few thoughts on what you touched on: - Lol it's hilariously ironic that a huge talking point was "no solos" when half of the people they named don't have any impressive rap in their solos (some without any rap at all). Like, the point completely loses it's basis. - The "Accurate" note is/was clickbait. Thought that was fairly obvious with me immediately saying, "feel free to correct me in the comments with stuff I don't know". - At the end of the day, it's just people upset that their faves from 10 years ago aren't at the top of the game anymore, and instead of embracing the future, learning about the technicalities behind rap, and trying to understand why there are new people they don't know in the "Top Tier", they go straight to flaming me on reddit & proving they're living in 2015 with the idea of "my fave = has to be the best rapper" when it's just not a healthy way of looking at this.

[@harveyism]

imo they're just mad because RM ranked lower than 4th generation idols like Jongseob and Han. They also have this weird "legacy" and "legendary" thing, where that doesn't really measure skills. for example, CL is extremely influential and has inspired all generations since she debuted, but only as a rapper? she is very lackluster.

[@chanheer]

Sunwoo being the only one in the top tier with a blue dot lol, i really wish he can showcase more of his self-written raps.

[@Robalexe]

Most of his non-self-written stuff is from his first few years

[@MiyusRibbons]

for a lot of the blue dots, its early raps weighing down the ratio. i almost decided to add another colour for rappers that had writing credits in all their recent songs but were held back by not having written in their early discog but that was going to be a huge amount of extra work to go back through everything again.

[@imnotthatgirl8776]

I look forward to this video every year.

[@harliyana]

There are multiple posts and recently there is one saying that Han Jisung and Changbin are mid rappers. And so many upvotes at that. I disagree but kpop fans seemed happy to say both of them are mid when they are anything but mid.

[@carkpop]

Yeah …. That’s just fans not knowing how rap works… hahaha so misguided

[@harliyana]

@@carkpop Ahhh so you lurk on Reddit? Yeah I was shocked that most kpop fans seem to think Han and Changbin are average at best. They are definitely not average! And all of them claim to be rap enthusiast and specialist.

[@carkpop]

nahhhh I don't lurk on reddit.. I'm just not surprised hahahaha. Often times, people who "claim to be rap enthusiasts" don't listen to rap outside of Kpop .. and *IF* they do, they just go by "What is the catchiest" or something when there's for more depth to it then that.

[@nyxeo]

Manifesting more rapping from MCND this year I can FEEL it (last time I felt it they went on hiatus for a year)

[@BobbykingiKON]

Bobby ❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

[@doodlemunchkin2222]

I’ve always enjoyed NCT Mark’s deliveries and intonation use imo. I think he really emotes with his voice well in raps and on certain verses that I think make pretty standard rhymes and flows more fun and catchy/memorable for a lot of people. I think that’s really where his talent lays. I won’t argue his placement overall but I will say I think here in terms of his deliver, he’s a little underrated. Jack of all trades master of none, sure, but I think out of all those trades delivery would have to be his strongest area so far. Though I definitely think Mark and TY may work best as a duo and I think that’s helped them both in some ways because they bounce off of each other so well it’s impossible to not get hyped when they’re on a verse together. Taeyong is definitely the more underrated out of the two so I was pleasant surprised by his placement here!

[@childlabor727]

I've always thought that Mark has one of the best flows in K-pop, the way he delivers his raps are always so smooth, rhythmic, clear and never offbeat imo. So I was genuinely surprised that he wasn't even higher.

[@kingofclownery]

I'm so glad you included J.seph in this one! People barely talk about him, I've seen a lot of people outside of the fandom even think that BM is the main rapper?? I think it's just the whole deep voice and rapper persona thing again. BM isn't that bad but J.seph is definitely miles above him and deserves more recognition as a rapper! I really hope he gets to rap more in their next releases, he's being held back a lot right now and it's a pity.

[@InSomnia4]

J.Seph is the main rapper. Both are great but someone who knows about rap can say that J.Seph is the main rapper

[@kingofclownery]

@@InSomnia4 exactly, jseph is 100% main rapper material

[@InSomnia4]

@@kingofclownery yess

[@Robalexe]

The official positions even say J.Seph is main rapper and BM is lead rapper

[@InSomnia4]

@@Robalexe yeah

[@Robalexe]

BM being unabashedly thirsty in his lyrics is actually what he has going for himself the most in an industry where such rapping is frowned upon.

[@joycecaroline8639]

Jongseob being beside Yoongi is what i love most in this

[@InSomnia4]

A lot of k-bands aren't rap focused but Young K is a great rapper. I really like his rap in Congratulations

[@victory4565]

I'm thrilled to see Hanse being appreciated here... Even though it doesn't look like Victon is having a comeback (if ever) and Hanse's solos aren't that rap-based, that isn't an excuse to ignore both his amazing flow and his speed in the group songs, and he really deserves the high ranking you gave him. Also KIM HONGJOONG?? As an ATEEZ stan, I can say that his raps are GOAT level, and he definitely deserves that place.

[@gtblade2806]

26:12 I've been saying this to my irl friends for quite some time, Rap Monster is a different artist from RM. Once he transitioned to RM, he hasn't rapped similarly to what he did back when he was Rap Monster, except for Tear and Ddaeng. Kinda wish he kept Rap Monster as an alter ego like Eninem has Slim Shady.

[@kpopstationfy]

I'm probably gonna watch it, but giving love and strength for the work you put in these videos ! Lessgo

[@Lauren101.]

You guys should check out Moonbyul’s new rap song. It’s called “Intro: WWUD (What Would You Do?)” I was so pleasantly surprised that the intro song to her new album is a rap song. I hope it means we’ll see her start to explore rap more again in the future. It’s exactly the type of rap I wanted to see from her. It makes me crave more. If you guys are like me & want to see more of Moonbyul’s rap potential, I definitely suggest checking it out. Moonbyul’s new album “Starlit of Muse” out February 20th @ 6 PM KST. Title Track: “Touchin & Movin” 🙂

[@InSomnia4]

Love to see J.Seph and BM appreciation. These two are really good

[@JoyFan879]

Can you explain a little bit more about Taeyong and Mark. Taeyong is my favorite rapper and I definitely think he has caught up to Mark, but your gap between the two feels too big. I think some of Mark's earlier raps (High School Rapper, 1/N with Dynamic Duo, etc.) are nearly on par with some of Taeyong's recent raps. Lastly, I think some people forget that Mark is writing in 2 languages simultaneously (as part of 3 NCT units, SuperM, and solo). That's basically a super power 😂

[@Alex3791J]

I think recency plays a part in the raking so that might be it

[@carkpop]

Sure!! So this gap that you see has kinda been building, and it surprised me when making this but it kinda just makes sense. If anything, I'd say Taeyong is too high compared to Mark being too low... Taeyong might be more towards the bottom of the tier he's in... However, looking at High school rapper ... when you listen to his raps on there, they're *good* ... but it's kinda the same with his NCT stuff, it's *good*, but nothing insane. I can look at all of the rappers above him and think of raps that are on par with what he did on High school rapper. As Alex says above, Recency does play a slight part too, so the fact that HSR was so long ago at this point, and it probably has his best collection of raps overall, that says a bit as well. As for the language thing haha, while I would love to credit that, it becomes a lot more impressive once you start hitting the 4 / 5 / 6 languages in a single verse and even bar... Like, there are a lot of faceless tiktok creators who'll "rank rappers" and put "international rap" as in, "Rapping in other languages" as a skillset when, not only is that not an inherent skill to rapping, but many many rappers on here do it. (It is impressive though and I wish I could do that either way!!). Hopefully that explains it a bit, but I think Mark has become victim to a "Well, everyone says he's good, so he must be good" mob complex, rather than actually looking into his individual verses. (I fell for it too as I used to rank him much higher). *hopefully that answers your question* and explains a bit further. I could definitely see closing the gap by moving Taeyong to like, just above Woojinyoung I think~~

[@JoyFan879]

​@@carkpopI see what you mean. Thanks for the clarification 👍

[@flaggov6949]

Definitely, looking forward to more Yechan!

[@ladymoon7327]

Kingdom's members are here?! Damn!! We're getting a bit of a recognition for this group! Also, I think it may be worth it analyzing Dann's raps as well, as he has some in their b-sides (like the song Destiny for example) and in Coup D'etat

[@hunamalia8814]

Your Big Three category is interchangeable for me year after year. I’m a huge Bobby fan but also recognize Zico & Mino’s talent as well. As for Bobby, I really enjoyed his Sir Robert album.. “Intro” is my favorite song from his full album.

[@soyeonvsveggies]

im shocked fatou was that high lmao, never knew she was such a good rapper

[@carkpop]

Her first mixtape was very weak imo … but her project from last November / December def bumped her up. Hoping it translates more into Black Swans’ upcoming music~

[@carkpop]

Oh I know!! I was referring to the original commenter ^^

[@hiddenguard958]

Jseph Is an underated rapper. He has complex lyrics, an insane flow, he has a way of rap against the music flow, that's amazing

[@skyhideaway]

seriously he deserves more recognition

[@vkskms]

gunwook should be higher. even if he hasn't really gotten a chance to show off in zb1 yet, he has done so in other places. i think his strong point is his self-written raps, and many idols you put above him have never even lifted a pencil. would like to hear a more in depth explanation, although i know most of it lies on lack of time/material inside his current group.

[@moriko-chan1059]

On Soyeon: First, I can understand why you put her down a few places for wanting more rap content. But for me, she didn´t loose her skills cause the last albums simply weren´t about her raps. ON 88rising where there are bad parts she wasn´t in the production team so she propably didn´t had a say. They also didn´t talk often about heat so the fandom has the theory members themselves didn´t really like it. ON 2 the members focused on different aspects of their skillset hence why minnie, shuhua rapped so much in this album an yuqi getting more vocals. Soyeon went there more for vocals as well. The Queencard/ I feel album simply wasn´t rap focused and more in the y2k realm. So the not there raps was to fit the concept better. That ad song and her one award show stage collab in the last year also showed she still has the skills. Raps werent simply her main focus in the last year. She just focused on different skills which is okay with gidle being in their 6th year already. Also, their more than thight schedules AND their schedules bing heavy on their health cause Cube can´t manage them right. Maybe a reason why heat wasn´t at least co produced by them.

[@skyhideaway]

i don't think matt was implying that she lost her skills, just that she hasn't done anything super impressive as of late. that doesn't mean she's suddenly unskilled, it just means that she's been focusing on other areas, like a lot of other rappers on this list.

[@carkpop]

I never said she lost her skill ... but to answer this pretty simply; Her purely focusing in other aspects doesn't make her *rap* area pause .. if that make sense. There are quite a few rappers who can pull off some impressive & genius rap spots, while making the most of their opportunity... So let's dive through each real quick; iFeel - There were plenty of raps in there. The problem arises when you look at the raps specifically, they're very standard GG raps compared to her usual techniques. I get it's Y2K themed and not rap focused, but that doesn't negate the fact that the raps she did do really didn't do anything there... HEAT - I know this is a controversial take, but we can't pick and choose what we credit Soyeon with... If she was unsatisfied with her raps on there, I would've hoped that she would've said something about how she was disappointed that she wasn't able to write her own, put the blame on 88rising, or like, have Minnie / other members practice their rap with those parts and not put them under her name .. By publishing that album under *gidle* and herself as the rapper, she's inherently taking on those raps as part of her discography. We can theorize all we want, but when trying to objectively judge, I can't really give the benefit of the doubt without actual evidence showing she was *forced* or had not choice .. or something to discredit those raps. Until that comes out, I have to assume there's a reason why she did those raps without any public statement about being disappointed in the production or idk.. something. Like, doing that.. you can take the same logic to any idol who doesn't write 100% of their own raps and say "Well, they are forced by the producers to rap that way so they're actually higher".. you know? We can't just give Soyeon a special exception because we love her. 2 - I think the *focus on different aspects* actually says a lot. Again, she had raps on this album... two she wrote. SuperLady was extremely lackluster due to it's length and "Revenge" was very much like iFeel, super straightforward it seems. Like, the fact Minnie wrote the best rap on the album is really something to think about for me. I get she was focusing more on vocals but?? Now ... ok... so the hard stuff; Buldak - YES, that's the one highlight of 2023 for me from Soyeon, and it's shrouded in this unknown if she even wrote it since there's no credits ... at least none that I can find. I mean, maybe I can move her up a handful of spots, but ahhhh the fact her *best* rap last year still has a little caveat to it is really worrying to me making stuff like this. Smoke - ... there's a reason I never made a video on this ... I'm like, 50% on if she messed up on it. I'm really really excited to hopefully hear her do more KHH collabs in 2024, since the style she did there is what we've been missing ... well really since BBN, but ahhh I really didn't want to put too much emphasis on it since there's no studio version or anything to base it against. I completely understand your points, and I could concede bumping her a tier up and maybe being too rough on a single very very down year from her focusing on other things, but I just look at the rappers above her ... J-Hope collabed with J.cole, but I guess she could go above him... beyond that though?? Rawhyun released an INSANE soundcloud project last year that was just so surprisingly legit with actually some impressive af raps on NTX... Hongjoong had what I would argue is the best year of any kpop rapper in 2023. Sunwoo continues to release a handful of top tier mindblowing raps every year consistently, even when The Boyz don't focus on rap.. the track literally changes for him to do something super cool. Jiseong ... my god the dude is cracked with like an entire 3 minute long complex verse as well as many many many insane verses beyond that. J.seph had his best year ever last year with solid stuff previously from KARD. RM's indigo was a decent project that brought us back a bit to 2015 ... but yknow, if he didn't have all these down years, he'd be up in that "Big three" category. Then there's B.I who had arguably the best *rap focused* album of 2023 from any current or former kpop idol... like, it's really hard to move her up in this with all the people above her (except Jhope), doing INSANE stuff last year. I hope that makes sense. I totally understand your point though but yeah, just difficult with the placements.

[@nessd.1379]

I wonder why YG holds the Treasure rap line back. Compared to Bobby, B.I., and Mino, it seems the Treasure rap line isn't given the “freedom” to showcase their rap skills. Bobby, B.I, and Mino went on SMTM to prove their skills. Mino and Bobby were allowed to form MOBB and put out an album. Mino has released 3 albums under YG, Bobby technically released 2 but his first album was his prize for winning SMTM. B.I never got to release an album but he an Bobby had said they were working on an album together. Of course, they never got to release it because the scandal happened

[@210-ws9kk]

I would say that probably has something to do with the title tracks YG let’s them release these days compared to Winner and iKON who were able to mostly produce their tracks from the very start of their careers including the title track so they were able to fully shape the direction of their sound and rapping style etc. While for Treasure, it seems like they are not given free reins just yet in terms of music production… not sure why that is.

[@Robalexe]

Treasure rappers write all their raps and also produce a good chunk of the music, don't put the blame on YG for why they don't show off. Even though they don't produce the title tracks, they still don't do much on the b-sides they produce themselves

[@nessd.1379]

@@Robalexe I'm talking about individual work. Bobby, B.I, and Mino were able to show their skills on SMTM. Mino and Bobby formed MOBB and released an album. Mino has released 3 albums, Bobby released 2, and Bobby and B.I were going to release a Double B album but the scandal happened so it was scrapped

[@hyukleberry5567]

​@@nessd.1379 it's bc ikon and winner actually had mainstream relevance and they were trying really hard to push them, but treasure never achieved that level of popularity so YG just doesn't try with them. They gave up on Bobby as well, he really stopped getting opportunities long before the big scandal with B.I.

[@Robalexe]

@@hyukleberry5567 Bobby had a studio album in 2021 released by YG

[@Lila-te4fx]

Bobby ❤❤

[@detergenthwachae]

I know you told us not to pay attention to the chat but omg the vixxo slender at 15:55 lmaooo

[@Tuniii819]

Yo top3 is chefs kiss frl🔥…..they should bring back MOBB too

[@ungoodthinkful]

Yaaay I've been waiting for this!!!

[@sammelia1]

Danggg 19 years old Jongseob just below SUGA, my kid is genius❤

[@Sanyanisso34]

For me I love suga rap the most his lyricism is insane especially his last album

[@mrsh4671]

BOBBY🥰

[@dysaa]

Thank you for including Roda here! M.O.N.T recently had a comeback with the title "IDGAF" a month ago, and it was produce by him. Also you should check their b-side song with honestly and like you.

[@balqisrizauddin4361]

Woahhh i saw seunghyub❤ I really luv hear his rapping live

[@JacksonZhang-cu2lh]

I wonder where would you put Sehun in this? Me personally I would put him in the solid tier of K-Pop Rappers. He’s improved a lot over the years and I think the main thing that’s holding him back is that he doesn’t write enough of his raps.

[@enaxtry]

When I see Zuho, I remember his killing line in Kingdom- "I am the male version of Venus"

[@Ram875]

You know what? I fully agree with this list, I wouldn't change anyone's tier.

[@AC-uc3ey]

I came here to find potential new people to listen to besides the same old skz, atz, bobby, mino playlist. I'm satisfied. Good list.

[@ynaindaeyo]

BOBBIEEEE 😂🔥

[@ungoodthinkful]

I've been getting into khiphop a lot this past year, mostly due to your channel. I'd love to see you do a full tier list like this for khh rappers. I know that would be a huge project though with not as much interest from the viewers, just saying it would be cool!

[@carkpop]

Hahahahaa while that might be cool, idk if I could be satisfied with the result. Like I listen to a lot of Khiphop but there are MANY talented rappers I just don’t know well enough to represent all of Khiphop 😭

[@ungoodthinkful]

@@carkpop totally understandable! I know your channel is mostly kpop rapper focused, so it makes sense. Just wishful thinking on my part. I'm really thankful for this channel, I've found so many awesome khh rappers here!

[@minaballerina]

haha as a once i knew that chaeyoung and dahyun would end up at the bottom but this was a really interesting video! i don’t know enough about the technical side of rapping so a lot of stuff i didn’t understand but overall very cool

[@Yousofatube]

Momo is totally forgotten tho, her raps in misamo were good

[@DorothyYukari]

I feel that CL'raps kind of like speak aggressively with constantly slow beat. She is surprisingly good vocalist and dancer instead.

[@L4SER]

IM LATE TO THIS BUT IM LITERALLY SO HAPPY THAT YOUR GIVING WONHYUK SOME ATTENTION, I REALLY WANT MORE PEOPLE TO KNOW ABOUT HIM EVEN IF HIS NOT IN TOP TIER

[@rickyjpen]

I don't think they'd be extraordinarily high but surprised to not see EVNNE's rap line on here. I think they have potential at the very least.

[@carkpop]

Still a little new for me to be comfortable ranking them at this point~ they’ll surely be on here next year with Turn8, DXMON, snd TWS though~

[@rickyjpen]

​​@@carkpopThat's totally fair and good to hear! Also not related to a rapper tier list. Would be curious to hear your thoughts on ICHILLIN' - Demigod. I've always thought this group over the last 2 years or however long they've been around has had pretty generic music its been like really safe concepts that kinda blend in with everything else like the epitome of 5/10 production in my honest opinion(subjectively of course). I just so happened to click on this latest comeback out of boredom though and I genuinely feel like it is my favorite song in Kpop in 2024 so far. They completed changed their concept and went with a style that I feel is genuinely unique in kpop and they absolutely owned it. It has alot of hiphop inspiration but feels very much different at the same time. If you haven't checked it out I'd highly recommend it.

[@aiweeeeen]

5th gen best rapper xikers Lee Yechan!! 😍🔥🔥

[@khkim3066]

Jongseob 💜💜💜👍👍👍

[@AbB-bl8qc]

Really awesome! So till win by mcnd all rappers write majority of their raps. Does that overall mean that solid is like the max a non writing rapper can reach?

[@Robalexe]

Blue dot means 25%-50%, which is not majority

[@AbB-bl8qc]

@@Robalexe yeah but all rappers above win are green right?

[@Robalexe]

@@AbB-bl8qc No. Sunwoo, Wonhyuk, Zelo and Chanyeol have blue dots

[@AbB-bl8qc]

@@Robalexe so how much they write plays a role but isn’t a limiting factor in the placement?

[@Robalexe]

@@AbB-bl8qc It definitely plays a role, as a blue dot makes it difficult to be above impressive. He said Sunwoo wouldn't be top tier if all of his self-written raps weren't great, so it's not a completely limiting factor (also helped by the fact that it was his early years that he didn't write much, if it was the other way other around he wouldn't be top tier). And if you have a red dot you can barely scratch impressive tier. Green dot doesn't automically make you solid either though, look at Haruto and Yeonjun for example.

[@djdjsjskjdnnxsjns]

i guess it's a sign to check out jongseob!

[@soyeonenjoyer]

as a soyeon ult i agree with the past year not being her best. heat was absolute garbage, flip it is borderline unlistenable. she didn’t have any part of writing or producing that so i’m not going to dock her down too much for that. for i feel it was just average, i did enjoy her on lucid though! with 2, the songs she had credits on the production she said she wanted other members to experiment with parts that typically would go to other members (hence everybody rapping but her lmfao). which i think as a listener of the group is cool but god i miss soyeon rapping 🥲 agree with everything you said though & i hope with their second comeback of the year (second half) i hope she comes back strong 🙏

[@cheeesepizzza]

Even though I’m super biased and would like to see him placed higher; thank you for including Jooheon. 🥲

[@oldbooksatmidnight8118]

so happy to see someone talk about ntx, I appreciate that you cover some less known rappers. though a correction would be that the team has two other rappers, changhun and seungwon.

[@aggid9132]

Jongseob deserves a spot in the big four, not gonna lie. He is incredible. Also, J.Seph is super underrated. He is so versatile but is often overlooked because Kard is a co-ed group and many people are either not a fan of that concept or unaware of how good he is.

[@hw9009]

YALL SLEEP SO MUCH ON JOOHEON! ive been saying for yeaaars hes the GOAT of kpop rapper

[@maria-yw4km]

Han being at #4 is so real he’s seriously insane

[@InSomnia4]

KARD have a song called Jinikka and the raps in that song are amazing

[@InSomnia4]

@@emochipochi Yess. And the lyrics omg. I was speechless when BM "Goodbye, no, I don't wish u well"

[@InSomnia4]

@@emochipochi Yeahh, i was shocked. I'm a J.Seph biased, he's one of my ults. I'm happy when someone appreciates him

[@InSomnia4]

@@emochipochi yeah and he's so funny and chaotic, i mean, kard don't have a normal member

[@InSomnia4]

@@emochipochi Yeah but somin isn't normal too. I like when they just casually teasing themselves. J.Seph would do well in variety shows. Also his dancing is so good too

[@InSomnia4]

@@emochipochi yeahh, their 6 hours live is a chaos

[@СергейСиленко-ю5э]

@carkpop What about Mingyu & Wonwoo from Seventeen? I noticed that they are absent from the list. Just asking out of curiosity )

[@Yousofatube]

Year he skipped some rappers idk why tho, also twice/misamo momo Anyway I think all of them would be at the bottom

[@hsnhr00]

Jaehyun Boynextdoor make many raps outside their songs example like Sunglass (not official song) by Boynextdoor, diss rap towards Zico on The Seasons, MCountdown’s special “I need a girl” and Fighting (BSS) covers and like literally all their cover songs, MAMA Endless Rain, and many more. Please check him out

[@ImmaJieun]

OMG J.SEPH😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@hunamalia8814]

Oh how I wish B.I and Bobby would collab together. It break the internet cuz those are my faves!

[@clandestinecoherence]

i wish the treasure rappers could show their potential too. they get unit songs now but i want to hear some more experimental shit from them

[@rocioramilo4833]

Exactly! They're a great rapline, but their songs are very hip-hop based in a basic way, idk how to explain it(? I think G.O.A.T is a good showcase for them (better than volkno) as a unit (personally in this tier list I would place Harto higher than glad of the people in his tier but anyways haha)

[@Cryforme-]

I think Rei can be in that solid tier list ryt? Since most of her raps she did in IVE's songs have nice flows? & Since Royal she has been doing those nice flows

[@yanaindaeyo]

BOOBIE!!!

[@skyhideaway]

💀

[@leanashine]

you got the spirit for sure!

[@jins000ul]

this was a fun watch !!! i was wondering where u would place jiung (piwon) ? as he is still a part of the rap line even tho hes been a lot more vocal focused recently lol

[@carkpop]

idk ... that's kinda why he's not here. I know he's technically part of the rapline, but he doesn't really rap enough these days for me to give him an accurate spot. He'd probably be lower than his skill actually is just due to him *not rapping*.

[@chyme2465]

moonbyul doing what she doesn't like but is still excelling in it. good girl

[@whoisshepard]

Hongjoong top tier

[@racheldorff8139]

I know I'm so late to this but I've been thinking about seventeen's rap-line not rapping recently and it makes me so sad too!!

[@slivercoat6678]

Kwangmin and minwoo from Boyfriend/bf where would you put them? Minwoo and kwangmin rapping is very interchangeable depending on the song minute ill say kwangmin better and then a second later ill say min woo is. they rap in boyfriend too and they rebranded as bf in 2021 and released a song in 2023. they are monsta x's seniors. they have some pretty solid Korean and Japanese raps. Kwangmin is idol rapper tho because solo stuff he sings and Minwoo acts but raps boyfriend/bf songs. i think they've written some raps in boyfriend and written more in The BF songs.

[@axijacques9728]

bobby 🔥🙌🏻

[@free_falling_in_abyss]

Han🔥🔥🔥