2024 Mazda CX-90 vs BMW X5 vs Mercedes GLE // DRAG & ROLL RACE (+ Surprise Contender)

[@MazdaUSA]

As always, we're honored to have driving lovers like Thomas and James at the wheel and appreciate the detailed insights and kind words they offer about our most ambitious Mazda yet.

[@anthonyesiemokhai1603]

Some of us are waiting for the lower priced trims first before we buy.

[@jaredbennett4761]

Make a performance car no one cares

[@alexlam24]

We need a faster CX 90

[@christianbryant5617]

Beautiful job by Mazda. Love the premium image

[@kingwillbisthebest]

Over priced in Australia. You won't sell any

[@ryanking6811]

I hope Mazda just keeps doing their thing. Much respect to the company for being a little more than ordinary with their vehicles.

[@purwantiallan5089]

Mazda CX-90 looked cool but appraently Overweight overall.

[@prabeeshsidhu]

@@layne4376 true, we can’t give the credit for inventing but it does take a certain level of genius to elevate cheaper components to tackle higher level products.

[@ryanking6811]

@@layne4376 does Mazda have a long rich history of making luxury level vehicles? No. I didn’t say they are better than any German brand, I own a BMW myself. But the fact that Mazda is willing to make an effort to make a quality and upscale product at a competitive price comparable to literally every manufacturer on the market (and actually doing it well), they are doing something right in my book. Go out and drive more vehicles, you’ll see what I mean.

[@javigar133]

​@@layne4376 copying the Germans? I would personally say "offering a more affordable and reliable option". 90% of the performance for 60% of the price and safe mind

[@danielosdinia4258]

Mazda to me is the only Japanese car brand that its products are beautiful. Honda is not bad as well but Toyota always designs ugly cars!.

[@ice44567]

I love that inline six engines are making a comeback lol

[@jesterokjones4954]

Yes! One of my favorite sounds and configurations.

[@DefinitelyNotEmma]

EngineeringExplained has actually an interesting video about it. It has something to do with the Inline four-cylinder being so prominent

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@DefinitelyNotEmma agree. And in terms of that, the Mazda CX-90 has some of the most prominent feature not seen in some of the other SUV obviously.

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@jesterokjones4954 i belive it is.

[@Daniel_Colavecchio]

@@DefinitelyNotEmma When they were downsizing from V8's it was easier to go to a V6 due to tooling. Now they are upsizing from a four to a six so an inline 6 engine can use the same tooling. And the inherent balance is just a bonus.

[@reecetbobby5347]

Ordered my CX-90 a few weeks ago. These guys hit the nail on the head. As a car buyer (vehicle for my family in this case), I'm all about value but I also want something that I'll enjoy driving and put a smile on my face when I put my foot to the floor. The CX-90 will do exactly what I want and at a price that's hard to fathom (in a good way....) for what it offers.

[@jesusisking9342]

Super wybór i nie będziesz nigdy tego żałował. 100% daje ci gwarancji 🙌🤗🙌

[@benjaminlutseng]

It’s a real executive mid-size vehicle with longitudinal mounted engine

[@Ress951]

Везёт

[@PatG-xd8qn]

For this, you'd need a sedan or a hatchback, not a huge SUV. Unless you have 4+ children (which I doubt) I don't understand how people buy such vehicles

[@MarshallJames-dh3gi]

You’d be shocked at how well it drives and how light and nimble it feels. Go test drive one just to feel the incredible engineering behind it all.

[@AndrewKaiserPhotography]

I will never EVER understand why every car review bashes Mazda for the lack of touch screen (in this case only while moving). The control dial is sooooo much better. It's easy as hell to use. You hardly have to take your eyes away from the road. Best of all, you don't get ugly finger print smudges all over your screen!! A touch screen isn't always better. Seriously, I hope Mazda doesn't cave to the pressure of these people and keeps the control dial setup they currently have well into the future. It is actually one of the qualities that totally sold me on a Mazda. My previous car was a Toyota with only a touch screen and I found it annoying as hell when driving.

[@zakitama6337]

Yea... as a previous HR-V owner I can testify that operating non-tactile touchscreen while driving is super annoying, especially me, a very sweaty person. My current CX-5 is a well-rounded car, no further explanation. I hope Mazda won't fall for removing its dial knob!

[@TheFalconx00]

Totally agree! I've had my CX-9 for a couple of weeks and I find the control dial much better than the touchscreen. You can find your perfect seating position and never have to lean in to touchscreen. I do hope Mazda stays the course

[@tristan2332]

My Lexus has that also...I prefer it touching a screen meh

[@farawayskies]

Because it cost practically nothing to just make the screen a touch screen. The newest models have touch screen only if you are using apple carplay or andriod auto. Explain that!? The lcd is touch screen, but only for certain conditions? This is like lazy engineering.

[@kellingtonlink956]

Mazda clearly is stepping up it’s game. The very fact that it is even being compared to either of these icons is simply by itself… impressive. Well done Mazda! Thanks for the video.

[@rousseau327]

Even 5 years ago, i wouldn't have believed Mazdas would be competing with BMW and MB in anything other than interior styling

[@dabluntz19]

And how quickly they’ve rebranded themselves at that. The CX5 was a real game changer for them.

[@AI-qd4vb]

They're not. They're becoming niche premium. Until they give us a proper sedan and coupe, they'll never have the appeal of the germans

[@iznxan]

@@AI-qd4vb well yea when a bmw 3 series cost 20k more than a mazda3 , I would hope they a bit better 😂🤦‍♀️

[@coltoncyr2283]

Even Hyundais are way better than previous models 5 years ago. Design, Engine, space. my Sante Fe Turbo rocks with 300lbft non CVT. Not great in corners like CX5, however, bigger and the interior design is better imo.

[@jax1079]

Most relevant drag race in a while. 😂 Always cheering for Mazda in these situations. One of my favorite brands. Great video as always!

[@purwantiallan5089]

JAX Automotive, wish we could also see a drag race between Ayumu Uehara's Mazda LM55 vs LEXUS LC500 vs Chisato Nishikigi's favourite car, the LFA.

[@HAMMER8181]

Steaming piles of garbage

[@akgonen60]

Mee 2 I always cheer for mazda Even races I know it will loose I still be screaming "come on Mazda "!! Lol

[@jax1079]

@@akgonen60 Valid. 😉

[@jax1079]

@@purwantiallan5089 Anything involving a Lexus LFA is automatically cool 😎

[@The_Hi_Life]

Mazda has really upped their game! I hope they continue doing this throughout their entire lineup, they’ll be a force to be reckoned with.

[@purwantiallan5089]

Mazda LM55 from Ayumu Uehara: Am i a joke for you?

[@G_G_G_G_]

Yeah ever since 19 they been really punching above their weight. If I had to recommend a car to someone who doesn't care about 0-60s I would recommend a Mazda.

[@TRUTHISABSOLUTE777]

​@@G_G_G_G_ and yet those are still respectable but the car feels fun. Stats aren't as important as how it makes you feel.

[@G_G_G_G_]

@@TRUTHISABSOLUTE777 I agree but I bought a 2020 Mazda 3 but it just was slow and not fun but beautiful car. My dad has an bmw x5M so he ruined my perception of fast most cars seem slow to me now 😥

[@ThatTechguy5000]

Bmw been doing it much long and make a better ever all car. Plus they are top 3 in reliability with the b58 engine

[@Anothertruecomment]

The demeanor and attitude of each driver during the race is spot on. BMW driver: cocky AF knows he better than you. Mercedes driver: Pissed he's not better than BMW driver. Mazda driver: DOESNT GIVE AF JUST HAVING FUN DRIVING A WELL MADE CAR

[@PopsRacer61]

You hit the nail SQUARE on the head my friend!👌

[@ce9916]

On the money!! 😂

[@KiddAlways]

i know this an older comment but it's one of the funniest i've seen in a while. i drive an x5 and agree most bmw drivers are like that.

[@hellocar123]

why does everyone love to make fun of the nice brands and try to pump up the image of the low end ones?

[@zxbc1]

@@hellocar123 I don't see a lot of people making fun of other brands, just the German brands. And they deserve it because they've been ripping people off for decades.

[@AmzK]

"No, I achieved it in 13" - can't recall the last time I was so impressed with a retort; had me genuinely chuckling!

[@achuck4321]

Imagine ever thinking a Mazda would but put up against the Germans. They have really refreshed the brand.

[@TermlessHGW]

But put could become a new term

[@jdavidblais]

Meh..!! my gla45 (Aclass) is clearly faster than the cx90

[@hobplaygames5863]

Remember that the RX7 FD beat ferrari's and Acura NSX's even stock form 😭😭

[@speedemon1992]

​@@jdavidblais and will clearly spend more time at the workshop

[@goldenfreezer1390]

​@@jdavidblais 👆🤓

[@Christian-fg3we]

Recently was given a new X5 40 as a loaner for 2 days when getting my car serviced and I absolutely loved it! Such a beautiful, quick, comfortable, and all around a fantastic suv

[@purwantiallan5089]

What about Toms X540 Chaser.

[@jameskwak3198]

Had one as a rental in Arizona was a x45e and found myself searching local dealers for price and availability was simply so much fun to drive made me look forward to driving again! After some quick searching realized 85k was about average price for phev I liked and would only be worth roughly half that after a couple years couldn't bring myself to throw away 20k depreciation per year it's a shame though really drives nice

[@Drew_Koch]

That CX-90 color is excellent and the interior looks great. Also Mazda's UI with the physical buttons and not slapping an egregious looking screen across the dash, is wonderful. Now give us that 4-door sedan with this drivetrain!

[@heinrichdude]

Mmm, love the peanut butter interior. Well done.

[@Masterahsoka]

Imagine the miata with that drive train 😂

[@XxIbuuxX]

@@Masterahsoka JUST DO ITT!

[@ToyotaAristo]

With all the head cracking issues and how ridiculous and stupidly engineered is the process to remove the cylinder head that you have to drop the engine. You don't want this drive train.

[@markcoopers1930]

​​@@ToyotaAristothe issue impacted a small number of turbo inline 4 engines 2016-2020. The aluminum head was the culprit, and was adjusted. There have been no such issues reported for 2021+ inline 4 models nor the inline 6. Still more reliable than a Porsche

[@AtlanticPicture]

Out of all my cars so far I had 3 Mazda. They were very reliable. Loved them even if they were not the fastest, and def not the most powerful, but while driving them I enjoyed life in my own way with a sense of excitement 😁

[@jesusisking9342]

Ja już ma 7 mazdę, bo to jest samochód który ma życie w sobie 🙌🤗🙌

[@bforce1107]

I have a CX30. Not the turbo but NA engine and while it’s not fast, it’s plenty quick and hella fun to drive. I live in Colorado and taking it on twisty mountain roads is so damn fun. I literally make up excuses to drive it. It’s a beautiful car too. It wears the Kodo design language better than any other Mazda in my opinion. The S curve on the side of the car produced by shadow and light is so cool, and the special way Mazda paints their cars with three different shades in one. I have Machine Gray Metallic. Interior is beautiful as well, and simple, which I love.

[@adamcole7]

(HOPEFULY) Picking up my 2024 CX-30 Premium NON Turbo TODAY! Metallic(?) Dark Blue. SUPER EXCITED! What year is your 30? And how do you like it having owned and driven it for a bit??

[@anthonyantoine9232]

I completely disagree with the take on the screen. I find it way easier and less distracting to use the dial in my CX-5 while driving rather than the touch screen in my ATS-V. If you use it for like a day it is certainly annoying, but if you get used to the dial it is hard to go back to having to try to touch a screen while driving.

[@andrewmihaleff]

Nailed it. I drive a CX-8 (not available in America but basically a 7 seat CX-5) and I'm so used to the dial system - even for Android Auto - I could never back to pure touchscreen

[@abhi4ify]

I agree .. i last week test drove a car which had both touch and dial .. instinctly my hand just found its way to the dial and then it fit like a glove

[@itsmeyaboy...6322]

Cx-5 Gang

[@alexrey8035]

🤡

[@dustywagon298]

Yeah until you have to input a destination in

[@df_pgh1056]

I love that during the Mazda/Hyundai race, James is getting giddy while Thomas is just looking over at him smiling in a “feel better now, buddy” kind of way 😂

[@purwantiallan5089]

Wish we could see LM55 vs Hyundai N 2025 VGT Drag Race.

[@brotherdubious]

"go little rockstar :)"

[@spilot1016]

Japanese are still superior to Korean cars

[@bmwfans9619]

やはりBMW isbest

[@BradWilson1969]

Now I'm even more convinced that the CX-70 will be exactly what I want in my next car. I can't wait for that one to be released. 😎

[@jonwoodworker]

Agreed. The CX50 fell flat as a replacement for my CX5 Signature. I believe the CX70 will be the true CX5 Signature replacement. Hopefully with the same engine as the 90.

[@mrgold3591]

Hopefully, the CX-70 will have similar powertrain choices like the CX-90.

[@PhillyFan20]

​@@mrgold3591 It will. Wishful thinking, but I hope Mazda brings back the Mazda 6 and sticks the 3.3L (high output) inline 6 in that. That would be fantastic.

[@m3csl89]

​mazda 6 estate with the 3.3l inline-six. 😍

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@jonwoodworker CX90 has 3 bhp less than CX50.

[@FACTOTUM_55]

This is a huge accomplishment for Mazda, especially considering the price delta between it and the Germans.

[@isserdigan2835]

Yes but the X5 will get the higher output model with mild hybrid system.. pumping out 375 hp vs 335 hp stock 😂

[@dammyo6010]

​@@isserdigan2835 And cost how much more?

[@paulbugoni2846]

@@isserdigan2835 Mazda is a three row. Curious to see the new 2 row coming from Mazda and if they put in this 6

[@K03sport]

@@paulbugoni2846 I'd like to see the base i6t in the CX-50. however, if Mazda makes a 5 passenger CX-70(?) how will that impact the CX-50?. A crowded showroom is nice, but too many models impact sales and show lower total (model) units moved overall.

[@paulbugoni2846]

@@K03sport X1 X2 X3 X4 X5 X6 X7 etc... agree too many models. would love to see a slightly larger miata with a normally aspirated I6 in it. Could be a Z4 competitor. Given this drivetrain and Mazda's close relationship to Toyota, this platform could be the basis for the next (and more affordable) Supra.

[@michaellangston271]

I owned a 2013 Speedthree for eight years. Always a kick to drive. Replaced it with a CX-30 Turbo. Mazda quality and handeling are standouts, the interor of the CX-30 is exceptional.

[@MG-im8ku]

I drive a CX5, everyone who gets into it for the first time is always impressed with everything from the design of interior and exterior and the performance. Their turbo engine has quite a kick to it. Really gives a nice, sportier feel when you open up. The handling is great too. I eventually want to get a CX50.

[@Sexiestmanalive01]

had the choice between the cx5 and the new tucson. the 230hp and the much better design of the tucson in all black made it. the mazdas are still fun and unique

[@telixs2173]

True. I have a turbo and I love it

[@anthonywarry339]

I drove the diesel tucson expecting to love it. I didn’t. Went with the diesel CX5. It’s taken me 20,000km but I now love it. The seat has taken a while to get comfortable. Looking forward to the upgrade in a few years to a CX60. Looks like these new Mazdas are very nice indeed.

[@MG-im8ku]

@Anthony Warry my friend is getting a cx50. Gets delivered in June. Looking forward to seeing how it is when he gets it. These new models really do look like great cars for the price.

[@ravit928]

😂😂30k for 3 more seconds. Mazda won

[@marshallbaeth1156]

I work at a Lincoln/Mazda dealership and we were all clamoring over the new CX90 when it showed up. Opening the hood to find that 3.3 straight six and a pretty good size turbo from the factory surprised the hell out of us

[@themercedestraveler9566]

Only problem is that it only produces 280hp for that engine

[@marshallbaeth1156]

@@themercedestraveler9566 The S trim makes 330

[@nandernugget]

@@themercedestraveler9566 only on lower trims, higher trims make around 340 hp.

[@lornestein7248]

@@themercedestraveler9566 If the cheaper, lower CX-70 trims come with the 3.0l Inline6.. would be happy with 280hp ..if it gets great MPG!.

[@Jmort93]

@@lornestein7248 the 280hp version is still 3.3L, so maybe it has a smaller turbo/smaller charge air cooler?

[@andras.89]

If you guys are able to afford those Mazda inline sixes over there, buy them and keep Mazda's spirit alive :)

[@carll693]

Great video!!!! The cx90 needs a Throttle House comparison against the Infinity, Pilot, Acura, and the Korean twins. All lined up. Not only performance but fit and finish etc. You guys are fantastic!!!

[@purwantiallan5089]

CX90 should get a comparison against both Mini Countryman Cooper S and Peugeot 207 Coupe.

[@tinhinnh]

Infiniti

[@nycad2484]

Don’t forget the Grand Highlander

[@187unit]

Agree! DOOO IT!!!!

[@apacifico]

@@purwantiallan5089 we don't get Peugeot in canada

[@namegoeshere2903]

Mazda will definitely be more reliable than the German variants.

[@elkamps]

Mazda just prove that they are doing it better in Japan for a lot less. In 10 years Mazda its gonna be unstoppable

[@pynkkcobra3918]

Yesssssss MAZDA, impressive.🙌🏾🙌🏾🔥! The inline 6 CX-70 will definitely win against those Germans hands down! Especially if the Cx-90 is only a hair behind. Zoom-Zoom is returning baby! Btw I love my 2021 Mazda 6 turbo carbon edition but if she had this inline 6 drive train she would be a beast! Mazda 6 please be born again 😩🙏🏾🙏🏾🤞🏾🤞🏾!!

[@ctk4949]

The Mazda is definitely tuned more to save gas. I'm sure someone will have an ecu tune to fix that, lol. Also Thomas loves driving and using his smartphone, thanks!!

[@themercedestraveler9566]

Guess they are all as they all get similar mpg

[@ctk4949]

​@@themercedestraveler9566 Mazda gets a little better 25 combined vs 23 for the bmw. But ppl on forums saying closer to 18. Will see what the Mazda really gets

[@kingsamvisuals]

@@themercedestraveler9566I it’s more than mpg. Emissions tuning plays a role too and transmission.

[@aaronbryan5095]

​@@kingsamvisualsand Mazda really seems to put a lot of focus in trying to make their engines to be clean and efficient.

[@milesfathi]

Who the heck ecu tunes a fcking SUV?

[@TBIRD0625]

I will say out of most modern brands I think mazda has one of the best design languages, everything they make, while not overly exciting to look at, looks great. It would be nice though if they made something more exciting

[@purwantiallan5089]

Mazda CX-90 apparently quite underpowered compared to even Mazdaspeed3.

[@mbenton6]

​@@purwantiallan5089 what are you talking about. Cx90 is over 5000 lbs. Get a life

[@pastpixels-q2w]

ahh id say if i had to choose id pick a lexus counterpart just based on looks alone, but i will say ive seen some of the facelifted mazda's and they do look rather nice

[@speedemon1992]

​@@purwantiallan5089 also a bicycle is underpowered compared to a Ferrari

[@ababmxr05]

If they put this engine in a Mazda 6 it will be nice

[@jcooper4923]

Had a cx90 for a couple weeks... video recommendation brought me here. Absolutely love the car and the way it drives, feels and sounds. Everything from that point of view is perfect. Some of the tech and extra safety features i feel could be improved... just a lot more bells and whistles than i prefer. Hoping continued software updates will happen and improve stuff there.

[@felixli5279]

In my humble opinion: 1) Primary targets for top trim(340hp version) CX90 are not really GLE, X5 or Q5/7 buyers. They are really buyers of XC90(Wondering why Volvo has not sued Mazda yet re model name copyright...), Lexus RX/TX, Acura MDX, Genesis GV80, Infiniti QX60, etc. 2) The hosts mentioned a few times that the CX90 turbo is "not tuned" relative to the GLE and X5 which may initially sound like a negative engineering comment.....until we look at how the fuel econ ratings(EPA or NRCanada) of the CX90 turbo blasted the 2 German models completely out of the water. In fact among ALL 3 row SUV/Crossover models without an electric plug today regardless of price range, only Toyota Highlander 2.5 Hybrid can beat/match the fuel econ of CX90 turbo. So the CX90 being "not tuned" isn't exactly true - it just isn't tuned in the way expected by the hosts. I expected impressive power and smoothness from Mazda's new inline 6 engine since its conception 5~6yrs ago but i surely didn't expect class-leading fuel efficiency. 3) Unlike GLE and X5, any CX90 can run on regular 87 gas without ruining the engine. Only tradeoff is that without premium juice, Mazda promised only 319hp when filled with cheap gas instead of its maximum 340hp. The tested CX90 is obviously a Mazda press car meaning Mazda Canada doesn't really hv much control to ensure discipline among all journalists refilling it ONLY with premium juice across multiple days/wks of testings by a wide range of journalists/media. 4) From so many CX90 test reviews done on KZbin so far, its 3rd row/trunk space being famously far worse than Palisade, Telluride, Pilot, etc. is by now a well established fact. However, a lesser known fact is that when compared with CX90, 3rd row/trunk space on GLE and X5 is an absolute joke.

[@felixli5279]

@@ariescaisip5498 don't get me wrong. I still think TH is a quality show and its 2 hosts are consistently entertaining. However in the typical KZbin format lasting maximum 20~25mins per episode, it's just very difficult to evaluate+present every key aspect of a new model in a non-bias way(I.e. pros & cons or why something is engineered/tuned the way it is).

[@ecovango6675]

I would definitely take the Mazda CX 90 hands-down, save the extra cash in my pocket. CX 90 is a home run for Mazda! #WellDoneMazda❤️

[@ToyotaAristo]

Yeah that until you experienced the head cracking issues and now you have to drop the entire engine to change the cylinder head and head gasket and now you have spent the rest of your thousand's.

[@ecovango6675]

@@ToyotaAristo it’s all how you treat your vehicle! Sure if you drive it hard and then just turn it off. Yes you’re gonna have those problems. It’s best to let your vehicle cool down after running it hard! If you do these simple procedures, you will protect the longevity of your vehicle. Sure you can drive it super hard and then just turn it off then you’ll have issues like this. One of the key ingredients to having longevity of any kind of turbo is to let the car idle a minute or two before shutting it off. You’ll save money on unwanted maintenance especially the bearing in the turbo. It’s just all about common sense. My dad has been a mechanic his entire life and he has seen countless people with turbos with these kind of issues because they did not do this after driving it hard. Yes you can certainly go for the Mercedes or BMW, but I guarantee the maintenance cost will be significantly higher than the Mazda.

[@ToyotaAristo]

@@ecovango6675 all the thousand of cases are people driving it under normal conditions not driving it hard. These are family SUVs not Sportscars. And I'm sorry but there are too many cases with head cracks with this vehicle and Mazda will eventually make a Recall. Also the teardown of a simple cylinder head is a ridiculous overcomplicated process in which you even have to disassemble the entire exhaust!! that's poor/lazy engineering.

[@Battery-Powered]

This Mazda CX-90 is such a good proposal at this price !

[@nstipet]

And every week you are at the service

[@VeyroneR]

​@@nstipet nope. Mazda is not German car so its every week at the service.

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@VeyroneR Mazda is Japanese model actually.

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@nstipet and every week you'll get $60k for almost any car sold.

[@VeyroneR]

@@purwantiallan5089 I know. Read my post again.

[@Whatzitmatter]

Brake boost that CX-90! That dead heat roll race tells you it's just Mazda dialing back power in 1st gear as they always do.

[@AbeYousef]

Yeah pretty much, Mazda is notorious for tuning out aggressive launches in their modern vehicles

[@dewjustin]

Yeah, even the 3 and CX-5 are super slow compared to their power figures from a dig.

[@Jack-qn4vt]

It's probably so it can stay reliable for 20+ years

[@djhrjeiwhri]

​@@dewjustin so it can save its transmission

[@AndresSalazarAutos]

You can't brake boost the CX-90, it uses a wet clutch pair set, if it used a torque converter it would be different, but I've tried it and the best launch with it is just flooring it

[@CooperDog746]

Idk who does these types of videos better, but between throttle house and hagerty- they make the most informative and fun to watch videos about car performance. I’d watch these videos over MotorTrend all day long

[@musicultra571]

You don't fuck around with BMW when it comes to inline six.This Mazda is an absolute win if one is being realistic with expectations.

[@naturebeats2902]

That b58 is next level 🔥

[@instantpotrecipes5411]

Specially for the money 💰

[@ads9026]

B58 is reliable too I don't know why thomas said germans would be less reliable

[@historyhype77]

True

[@maheemaalikhan8055]

Its the father afterall 🔥

[@quixomega]

If I needed a 3 row vehicle right now the CX-90 would certainly be at the top of my list. The base trim especially seems like a great value.

[@AbeYousef]

Especially considering the base trim has the exact same engine and transmission, just maybe less cooling - give it a year and they will be making 400hp reliably

[@christianbryant5617]

If you’re looking for a nice premium SUV then I would look around for a CX-90.. beautiful

[@z-ra]

​@@AbeYousefSame engine but detuned in the lower trims.

[@The_Stanman]

Touchscreen not functioning while driving is a safety decision. We can debate whether it's the right move, but I appreciate that Mazda acknowledges that and doesn't give into the touchscreen fad despite it being an easier and cheaper solution.

[@moogoopow]

You can go into the options and change the setting to be able to use while driving.

[@AdamJRowen]

👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@MarkRVillano]

BMW should put a *Depreciation Gauge* on the dashboard right next to the tachometer. It would have to be something like a calendar / odometer combo gauge, with a dollar figure overlay, so you could see just how much value your new BMW is losing with every passing mile, and every passing day. This gauge would run continually in the background, so that when you get into the vehicle after a prolonged absence, it would be able to tell you exactly *how much less* it is worth since the last time you drove it. I would also suggest that they include a *Doomsday / Sunset* feature with the Depreciation Gauge, (they could market it as a package!). This feature would activate when the car has achieved *Maximum Worthlessness* , which can best be described as that point where it would make more sense financially to have it crushed and sold for scrap, than it would to replace the carbon ceramic brakes.

[@robertroxanne713]

Dude just shut up. If you can't afford one just admit it. All cars are depreciating assets. You live one time. Continue to live your life in the slow lane.

[@sixtomidnight1492]

Bahahahahahaha 🤣

[@DumbDogIsDumb]

What a clown. Sour grapes is a pathetic look. All cars depreciate and not everyone cares about resale. My new 2024 X5 should come with a grin meter as I’m always grinning ear to ear when I drive it. I don’t care if it depreciates to zero. Also prepaid for their maintenance plan and warranty so don’t care about repair costs either. And I’ll never be underwater because I paid cash. I didn’t buy it because I was worried about cost. Got it because it’s exactly what I wanted. All that said, the CX-90 is a very nice car, especially for the price. My buddy got one and loves it. I’m very happy for him too because I don’t go around worrying and talking noise about what other people drive. Imagine being that petty.

[@stevem2323]

What a load of crap that myth is.

[@Dudefixedit]

My 2018 signature CX9 has been a total blast since day one, 100% recommend it, very fuel efficient for its size and has a lot of room in it. not to mention reliability. All I did so far was change oil and fuel it 👍👍👍👍

[@Dudefixedit]

21.9 mpg average for an awd vehicle

[@gtr485]

I had the X5 40i as a loaner while my M2C got serviced and that thing is pretty quick. I wouldn’t be mad about driving it everyday.

[@tinhinnh]

400hp will do that

[@shannonthomass]

Not surprising. The X5 is so good. I test drove an x3 then drove an x5. Big mistake. I left feeling like I need to save longer for the x5. It was so much better in every way

[@Csdhlhcky1213]

@@shannonthomass definitely don’t get into the M50i - you’ll feel you need to save even longer 😝

[@gregs8685]

@@Csdhlhcky1213 I test drove both X5s and came away liking the 40i better. Much lighter on its feet and agile (as much as agile can apply to a huge SUV). You can definitely feel the extra weight of the V8 over the front axle.

[@tinhinnh]

well x5 is supposed to be better than x3 🙄

[@TaroutCommodore]

The CX-90 is great value at this price point, with the good reliability of Mazda, not bad at all.

[@art-is-lazy4509]

I can see a few people dropping a tune in that Mazda for an easy 300kw and 650NM for only a few K, love that interior treatment.

[@vindevhunta4905]

Mazda,Kia and Hyundai Are surely throwing a punch 👊 Cx90 is nicely designed inside out

[@alexChook]

11:30 apparently in the new Mazdas you *can* touch the touch screen while moving while in Android Auto or Apple Carplay. All you need to do is go to settings -> connectivity settings -> Bluetooth settings -> click on your paired device name -> scroll to the very bottom and tick the checkbox that allows you to use touch screen continuously

[@samcs06]

love Mazda as a company. Have owned 8 Mazdas. Everything from a 08 Mazda 3s to 06 rx8, and now currently driving a 2020 cx9. Never had an issue with any of them even the rx8.

[@marshalljames5640]

I also imagine that they will tune it to be JUUUUUST a little quicker since it’s not the “family hauler” of the two.

[@kanele1309]

I bet you will get that RX-10 Vision that they wish to make into car production right? If it really came out.

[@mercedes.c63_audi.q8]

We'll be moving from our Volvo XC60 to a Mazda CX90 and skipping the Volvo XC90. The savings will be immense.

[@samcs06]

@@kanele1309 lol if it comes out yea. I loved my rx8. The maintenance was alot but it was one hell of a track day car.

[@samcs06]

@@mercedes.c63_audi.q8 that's what sold us on the cx9. I work for Ford and even with our discount, the cx9 loaded was cheaper then a mid tier explorer. We are missing things like 360 camera but we don't care about shit like that .

[@mbenton6]

I want the Cx 70 but damn that Cx90 looks good. I might have to pull the trigger on the Cx-90

[@C-M-E]

I think it's fairly evident that Mazda isn't exactly known for building a track-inspired SUV, but a long-legged and stylish upscale touring SUV is definitely in the bag. I bought my wife the last NA 6 cylinder Cx-9 in 2017 and overall it's been a great vehicle for her. Other than some maintenance niggles like having to replace the injectors at 70K (a job I did myself surprisingly in one day), it's been very reliable, but it wasn't a cheap offering even back then. While you might spend the same money on a more refined Euro offering these days, I doubt you're going to recoup the price on longevity. The only other downside is that she's constantly being challenged to race, which might be more a product of styling than driving habits, or a general status of the driving public as a whole.

[@bwelmhouse1]

The CX-9 didn't come with a 6 cylinder engine in 2017. The sole powerplant was a 2.5L turbo 4. I just confirmed it on Mazda's page and a few car magazine sites. In fact, Mazda hasn't offered a 6 cylinder engine for many, many years and this year with the introduction of the inline 6, is the first one in a very long time.

[@icecold8974]

I’ve owned Many Mazdas. 97 626 ES v6, klde. 2000 supercharged Millenia S, 03 Mazda6s 5 speed, 06 Mazda6s and a Mazda3 that delivered pizza in. Not a single one caused issues, other that the supercharger going out in the miller cycle. I’m very pleased to see Mazda making it way up the ladder. If they put this drivetrain in the mazda6 or speed3 platform. it would be a game changer.

[@Chris-se3nc]

2020 M340 here and have to say the B58 engine is just outstanding.

[@doreenpolicarpio644]

*I'm a new Mazda fan. I'm so obsessed with their cars now*

[@VYM]

My condolences. Try BMW one day.

[@chrism869]

I mean the cx9 is the perfect daily driver

[@VYM]

@@chrism869 really? Try X5 with 3000cc turbo diesel then comment again.

[@chrism869]

@VYM's Playpen yeah but who buys diesels anymore, sure better fuel economy but it's boring, I would pick the cx9 over a diesel x5, no hate for the x5 I think it's an excellent car, but the cx9 just looks depart and drives depart.

[@VYM]

@@chrism869 japanese cars concept - candy foil body, recycled plastic and PVC interior, total absence of synergy between engine and transmission, weird ergonomics. If you like it then I'm really happy for you. My choice is German cars, BMW or Benz only to be precise. P.S. I have a car business and I drove and sold more than 200 different cars, so I guess my choice is reasonable for me.

[@Josh-179]

Not even mentioned was the fact that this is a 3 row vs the 2-row Germans. The CX-70 will be the direct size competitor and be lighter than the CX-90. Should therefore be a bit faster.

[@ariescaisip5498]

CX90 has similar weight as the X5. So it makes sense. Mazda wont win either as theirs is tuned for fuel efficiency. Rated at 25MPG.

[@masterwhopper414]

X5 has a 3rd row

[@prod.prophet691]

@@masterwhopper414 full third row

[@joseramongutierrez8018]

They should also match the CX-90 against the other German: Audi Q7, as it weighs similarly.

[@ShadyVibes]

The CX90 should maybe.. perhaps.. just slightly.. potentially.. be racing the X7 and the GLS...just due to its size (over 200 inches) and the fact that it has a dedicated 3rd-row rather than the jumpseats in the GLE and X5 (that literally only children or adults without legs can fit in). The CX70 that's coming soon would be more in line with the size of the X5/GLE.

[@aamirkazi1044]

If its a x7 40i and gls450 the cx90 destroys them

[@RG-tx6up]

The CX-90 is a gem compared to the X5 or GLE450. Reliable, good performance and low cost of maintenance.

[@AaronEjetsiak]

​@wagwanfham3572 what issues have you been having?

[@randomgameuploads1162]

I absolutely love my CX50 Meridian and CX90 Turbo Premium Plus! Best SUVs I've owned.

[@wilbeugre]

The CX-90 is quite the looker...even if I still can't get used to the headlights (not "distinctive" enough, and maybe a bit too small to my taste) Thanks for the video!

[@marshalljames5640]

I hated them at first and then I saw them in person. Probably one of the most distinctive headlights on the road. They just fall flat on photos.

[@LemtemPoktui]

We really need a watch collection video from Thomas. He's been rocking some really nice pieces.

[@randeepchahal611]

Ive seen a few but what have you noticed him wearing so far?

[@Hermanos22]

No we dont. This is a car channel, and very good at it. Luckily not a gadget channel including those “watch” people.

[@LemtemPoktui]

@@randeepchahal611 the one that I saw quite alot is the Omega Speed Master. I also saw him wearing a vintage Omega Seaster, a very very nice piece.

[@thomasholland8436]

If anyone is actually interested I’ll be on “The Grey Nato” podcast in a few weeks to talk about it.

[@MidWizard]

​@@Hermanos22 jackass

[@jrzez]

Mazda truly has done a great job with this SUV, so much so it'll likely remain on my list for when we unload my wife's Acura in the next two years or so. Now.. if only Mazda would put that engine into a 2 door sports car chassis and turn it up to the 400+ marks...

[@andylopez8717]

I have a CX 90 and I believe I feel more power when I use the paddle shifters

[@adletkhami6998]

consider weather and BMW having winter tires while M&M are on all-season tires, grip is everything

[@DefinitelyNotEmma]

I read "Turbo S" and thought 'oh Porsche finally made a Cayenne Turbo S?' and then I realized it's a Mazda lol. Still neat nonetheless.

[@makko7275]

Porsche has been making a Cayenne Turbo S for a while now

[@DefinitelyNotEmma]

​@@makko7275 No. There is the Cayenne Turbo, Turbo SE Hybrid and the Turbo GT in the current line up. No Turbo S, the Panamera has a Turbo S version.

[@Friends5121]

@@DefinitelyNotEmma Cayenne Turbo S E-hybrid. It’s not a “normal” Turbo S, but still

[@ChR0nos_7734]

@@DefinitelyNotEmma first gen and second gen had Turbo S

[@makko7275]

@@DefinitelyNotEmma I’m still counting that as a turbo s, it has it in its name so yeah but we can also call the turbo gt the S version of the cayenne

[@ranmas2004]

Would love to see the CX90 turbo S against the MDX Type S....curious on the performance vs that.

[@Eugen-E]

I was thinking that MDX TypeS is the surprise there...not the Palisade...

[@smar1208]

the mdx type s barely keeps up with an x5 40i so theyd all be pretty closely matched

[@TheBreakfastLover]

the MDX Type S is quicker than the CX90, based on Car &Driver's testing

[@Eugen-E]

@@smar1208 I also think the MDX typeS should be quicker than CX90 because is a little lighter and also has 15 more hp. I am not sure that "mdx typeS barely keeps up with an X5 40i" because Sam Carlegion did a drag race between mdx typeS and GV80 3.5TT and acura won. And X5 40i also was faster than the GV80. So..it's hard to say. And then again this CX90 from a roll was like the X5 ))

[@MidnightAspec]

@@Eugen-E agreed, I was a little disappointed to see the Palisade.

[@DM72513]

The fact the base model has the same inline 6 with less boost for $40k is insane.

[@nextleveljourney6612]

Exactly !! And therefore - A sequel “base model” review of these 3 would be great 👍🏼

[@hassanger8128]

The price difference is for the 0-60 only. And performance isn't 0-60 obviously.

[@johnnytampocao7671]

I love this comparison and the Mazda was impressive. My money is for the CX-90.😂

[@ETcelerate]

Like Thomas said, this powertrain on a Mazda 6 sedan with some luxury touches here and there. I will be sold!

[@HeisenbergFam]

One of the best car review channels on KZbin, in my opinion

[@thesteezefactor99]

THE best *

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@thesteezefactor99 agree. Miles above Carwow right now.

[@ymlccc]

Not bad, honestly not bad for Mazda CX-90. Damn, Mazda has been improving a lot recently.

[@alexsimon9083]

Waiting for the Mazda 6 with that drive train 100%

[@Cgee3]

I think that there isn’t much hope for it now. I know there was talk but Mazda seems to have abandoned the midsize sedan in favor of the family hauler.

[@deet4895]

Unfortunately Mazda has no interest in making cars anymore outside of the MX-5 Miata, the only thing to look forward to from this brand is a bunch of SUVs.

[@lornestein7248]

Mazda6 Not happening.. Hopefully the new redesigned Camry in 2024-25 might be offered with their PHEV Prime.. 300+hp. Nothing else coming in a Japanese sedan with real power and affordable coming soon.

[@billharris7235]

They still make the 6, but only for right-hand drive markets, ie. Japan and Australia.

[@Jack-qn4vt]

@Dee T blame the customers not buying that segment of vehicle

[@Gruntsworth]

I think an important point to make is that CX-90 will probably have no issues 10 years later whereas the BMW/Mercedes will most likely long be in a junkyard, or you'll have thrown another $10+k at it to keep it in working order. You also need to remember that this drivetrain is available starting at just $53k US or so, and a slightly detuned version is in the base model at just $40k. I'm also surprised at how well the Palisade did.

[@isserdigan2835]

Wrong. B58 has been in the market close to 10 yrs and one of the most awarded and reliable engines out there. Compared to the Mazda which just got out this yr.

[@djhrjeiwhri]

​@@isserdigan2835 issues,,, not only engine!!

[@TheMartzyanu]

I'm starting to believe that Americans don't know how to run their cars.

[@IonutTUC]

The boss is back BMW X5! 😏👍🏻

[@jankohrajko]

Exacty what I was thinking. Give us this engine in a stiffed and roughened Mazda 6 with some angrier looks and a price tag around 40k and we´re in.

[@kurtpenner2362]

I love this review/race. Not another tedious regurgitation of the specs/features. Just a fun romping comparison. And the conclusion at 12:00 was about the experience of the car and where it fits in the market. Not just a few words about "if you like fun steering, this may be for you."

[@rootsmanuva82]

The difference between off-the-line performance and on a roll suggests the Mazda reduces torque off-the-line to preserve drivetrain components. BMW could care less about all that, and if anything goes into 'overboost' for maximum thrust because they know that they engineered components to take repeated abuse.

[@tommytufguy3432]

This is why in 10 years the Mazda will still be a reliable daily driver, and the Germans will be constantly costing the owner 1000s of dollars.

[@radioactivification]

@@tommytufguy3432the bmw b58 engine is one of the most reliable on the planet and far outlasts mazda. Youre a bit uninformed.

[@tommytufguy3432]

@@radioactivification maybe the engine but the rest of the car will have electrical problems like they all do.

[@radioactivification]

@@tommytufguy3432 could be true and likely is. The bmw b58 paired with the 8 speed ZF is an amazing drivetrain however

[@tommytufguy3432]

@@radioactivification I don't disagree with that

[@mikemike5190]

The Mazda looks so much better than the bmw or mercedes. It also has reliability that the other 2 dont. The Mazda is a smart mans car which means more money saved to boot.

[@JBrown-go8ru]

I’d take the X5. I had one as a loaner when getting my M550i serviced. Quick, smooth, and not overdone luxury.

[@amanmatharu3724]

Man that x5 has such a crazy good sound.

[@jbkolod7557]

Such a good car, super efficiency and performance

[@MRMV483]

@@jbkolod7557 and B58 reliablity!

[@iwhineTL]

B58, probably the best sounding inline 6

[@thothkemet-lv8wq]

Endless money pit, alwyas at the mechanic, AC hardly works, spare parts expensive

[@the-boring-car-guy]

It says something that the Mazda can even hang with the Germans given its price point. Great car

[@carsaregood911]

Mazda deserves so much praise for that engine and chassis

[@jaleelthompson1891]

“This probably has 800HP” got me 😂 BMW always criminally underrates their vehicles.

[@soerenbo]

Huge fan of the music changes in this episode, a bit more engaging than the often used "generic rock-ish music" in car videos!

[@ForgotToMentionThat]

It might not win these races but it will at least outlast them in quality, engineering and performance. ❤❤❤ go Mazda.

[@kaileysweeney4240]

I think for what it is, the CX-90 made a good show. The true competition for the CX-90 I think is the Acura MDX. I don’t think the Acura would leave the CX-90 for dead, but it definitely has the power advantage. Another match?

[@SeanRosairo]

I actually do love Mazda seats, but I am shorter. It's pretty great to see what Mazda is doing, but I wish to see some of these great engines in the Mazda 6, and for Mazda 3 to become a hot hatch again. They can still do luxury, but I think they can keep their old sportiness in their cars, and keep the GT feel in ther SUVs

[@ricepredator]

Would probably still choose cx90. Really love the new design philosophy. Can’t complain about the savings, either. Good chunk of change for a V4S.

[@OscarEduardoRosales]

$13.000 less, that's a loot of savings!

[@alexrey8035]

@@OscarEduardoRosales And much much less car than X5 or GLE

[@OscarEduardoRosales]

@@alexrey8035 and much much cheaper

[@alexrey8035]

@@OscarEduardoRosales Sure, not even in the same league. Lol

[@OscarEduardoRosales]

@@alexrey8035 yep, that's why it costs less

[@WRXMAN-ms2mm]

Amusing to watch but that is the extent of it. A drag race for soccer moms and soccer dads looking for a stylish and quick SUV in my opinion. Does anyone care about how fast you can go from red light to red light? The rolling race which emulates merging into freeway traffic is informative.

[@xerexon2k]

Love the looks of the xc-90 and the japanese reliability, BMW has to be careful not to ruin the 3, 5 series and x3 and x5..

[@tsenif]

I really, really, really hope that Mazda sticks this inline-6 in a hot hatch or a performance coupe.

[@LGNDRY_BLOD]

I would love to see the first Drag Race with the X5 Launch Control :D Just to see the difference

[@purwantiallan5089]

What if there is a drag race between CX-90 against the Ford Super Chief Concept?

[@BrownSofaGamer]

@@purwantiallan5089It would still probably lose.

[@oi557]

🙋 I am Japanese. I bought the CX60 because I commute 125km🚙💨 every day. It's an eco-friendly car that runs 1L ≒ 18～23km.

[@error467able]

Cx-90 is a monster!

[@bartandaelus359]

That drivetrain looks quite impressive and i think a LOT of people agree that it would be very appealing in a 6 configuration, especially a wagon. That would sell me I think.

[@Todestuete]

Which one? The BMWs inline 6 in it's updated version is available in pretty much every BMW model (except the cheapest ones).

[@deet4895]

​@@Todestuete He's talking about the Mazda drivetrain not BMW.

[@AbeYousef]

Would definitely be my dad car, though if they just put it in the vision coupe body I would still prefer that

[@thothkemet-lv8wq]

BMWs are bad news after 3 years, they're always at the mechanic and they depreciate to mediocre levels. Nobody wants to buy a used one and spend their precious time and money at the mechanic

[@easylearn9350]

CX-90 is an adorable car with that lovely color 😍; not a performance car but a family luxury SUV at a compatible price.

[@rickflare6736]

I drive a 2020 BMW X5 X-Drive and I love it, (25,000 Miles) it has been very reliable and a great driver. My wife and I drove everything we were interested in, and she ended up buying a 2021 BMW X5 X-Drive M package (16,000 miles) and the 2021 has been very reliable too, but the ride is a bit more stiff because of the M package. I have had the 2020 X5 up to 122MPH when passing and it is just so solid on the freeway. I am retired now, and I will have more time to enjoy the cars. My wife has a company car, so her miles on her BMW are very low too. These X5’s are 5 star crash rated & have excellent extra cost LED headlights so you can see very well at night and that is very important for night driving. All the best. Rick.

[@carstenfischer5098]

Im European and I must admit that I would take the Mazda hands down. Its much cheaper and to Me it looks better inside and out and the quality looks pretty awesome too.

[@wulfricdawulf8950]

I agree, i wanna see this drivetrain in a mazda 6

[@nandernugget]

Do one between the CX-90 vs the MDX Type S and QX60

[@TheBreakfastLover]

The MDX Type S is the quickest, as per Car & Driver.

[@dannyo.7119]

Type S will destroy the Cx90 too

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@dannyo.7119 what about against Acura RSX and Honda HSC?

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@TheBreakfastLover so did Honda Dualnote.

[@mbenton6]

​@@TheBreakfastLover hell no it won't. Mazda will drive better

[@rudy_dstroys1821]

I mean, why spend 30k more if you are still driving from point A to point B? I don't see anyone racing these at the track but its good to have good performance none the less and Mazda CX-90 does it well.

[@aperson5062]

Mazda is great because it tries to make desirable products, not just functional ones. Yet, they are very functional and reliable. Seems like their target of being between mainstream and high-end performance luxury brands for less was nailed.

[@kareemsherif7070]

Great comparison, CX-90 shooting far above it's weight, I was so sure you'll bring an MDX ... Surprised by the Pallisade... You should pit it versus MDX, XC90, GV80 & QX60 in the next video

[@nickpaolantonio6974]

You can use the touch screen always if it is in apple carplay or Android auto

[@pedrorodrigueziii4859]

Did you hear that Mazda?!?! Put that powertrain in a new 6 and watch them FLY OFF THE LOTS.