2024 Mercedes E-Class | The Tech is Holding it Back

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@savagegeese
@savagegeese 3 ай бұрын
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@colin-nekritz
@colin-nekritz 3 ай бұрын
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@duskfading
@duskfading 3 ай бұрын
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@radudeATL
@radudeATL 3 ай бұрын
Please fix the links, thanks.
@schwartzki
@schwartzki 3 ай бұрын
Links are not working.
@gbriank1
@gbriank1 3 ай бұрын
So Mister Geese, what is the best "from the factory" car stereo system?
@NoodlesExtraMSG
@NoodlesExtraMSG 3 ай бұрын
sneezing w/o covering your mouth will activate 7 apps on those screens.
@owenshen36
@owenshen36 3 ай бұрын
😂😂
@davids1816
@davids1816 3 ай бұрын
What the hell comes out of your nose when you sneeze?!?! (I laughed at the comment so, well done)
@NoodlesExtraMSG
@NoodlesExtraMSG 3 ай бұрын
@@davids1816 I have powerful, nasty snot. Also, sometimes Milk When laughing too hard. (south park)
@mediocreman2
@mediocreman2 3 ай бұрын
Sneezes actually come out of your nose.
@a.m.9357
@a.m.9357 3 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@dean4696
@dean4696 3 ай бұрын
Pros: my passengers can swipe on Grindr with the privacy they deserve. Cons: everything else.
@bigRed90
@bigRed90 3 ай бұрын
😂Grindr😂
@calebwany8422
@calebwany8422 3 ай бұрын
@@bigRed90 I need to get to the bottom of this
@NomenClature-o8s
@NomenClature-o8s 3 ай бұрын
Let’s hope the seat bottoms are ventilated.
@Andrew-zv4fm
@Andrew-zv4fm 3 ай бұрын
My gf said tha itt can start a lot of fights when they pick out what to listen to.
@CarsofGlasgow
@CarsofGlasgow 3 ай бұрын
😅
@Jodez23
@Jodez23 3 ай бұрын
My idea of high luxury is not slapping a screen across the dash. Give me beautiful tactile buttons and knobs.
@bassandtrebleclef
@bassandtrebleclef 3 ай бұрын
Analog gauges as well.
@Bobo_Plantain
@Bobo_Plantain 3 ай бұрын
Totally agree!
@henrik1743
@henrik1743 3 ай бұрын
Same
@Skfkf1393a
@Skfkf1393a 3 ай бұрын
According to Fifth Gear mercedes used have engineers dedicated to configuring how much force the buttons required to be pressed to give the perfect tactile feel.
@aprtur
@aprtur 3 ай бұрын
​​@@Skfkf1393aFunny how that's now become Mazda - they did exactly that with the current generation 3, to ensure the controls felt more premium, and how they spent a ton of money on fading LED indicators that replicate the more natural perception of how an incandescent bulb dims. It's mind blowing to me when Mercedes, just before the current jelly-bean styling, had just started to shirk the Daimler-Chrysler era interiors and was feeling really nice again...only to turn into cheap creaky plastic and strip club lighting plastered everywhere. Sad.
@forkthepork
@forkthepork 3 ай бұрын
The gauge cluster in my Tacoma is 3D...because it's a physical gauge cluster, and actually exists...
@JNAMOTORSPORTS
@JNAMOTORSPORTS 2 ай бұрын
And wont break
@AI-qd4vb
@AI-qd4vb Ай бұрын
@@JNAMOTORSPORTS yeah sure
@M1911jln
@M1911jln 3 ай бұрын
I like the exterior styling but I hate that huge screen silliness. Swipe controls are monumentally stupid.
@psfanboy79
@psfanboy79 3 ай бұрын
Give me nice tactical feeling quality buttons and knobs any day over a stupid ass screen
@DV-ou1yu
@DV-ou1yu 3 ай бұрын
The exterior looks horrible in my opinion
@maddcrz
@maddcrz 3 ай бұрын
@@DV-ou1yuit fortunately looks better in person
@KingMatt1
@KingMatt1 3 ай бұрын
$70K+ for a 255 hp 4 cylinder with GIANT bezels around the screens that make it look a first gen iPad from 15 years ago. Ridiculous
@AngryWalter
@AngryWalter 3 ай бұрын
I d rather buy a hyundai i went to korea and their latest cars look amazing and are superior in every aspect.
@KingMatt1
@KingMatt1 3 ай бұрын
@@AngryWalter turbo 4 cylinder with giant infotainment screens, modern safety systems, and ambient lighting. Most economy cars have that nowadays, Mercedes charging $70K for an experience you can get in a “normal” economy car now is hilarious 😂
@InternetUser._
@InternetUser._ 3 ай бұрын
It’s got 20 whole HP more than my 2008 V6 sonata that I got for 4K in college 😂
@paultruesdale7680
@paultruesdale7680 3 ай бұрын
Shame about some of their engines though!
@Wasabi9111
@Wasabi9111 3 ай бұрын
@@KingMatt1haha. I just posted a similar comment that a modern civic has 90% of the tech.
@csgarage3682
@csgarage3682 3 ай бұрын
My 2016 E350 Wagon with an analog instrument cluster, nobs, and a NA V6 is doing just fine. Thanks
@schlootz7511
@schlootz7511 3 ай бұрын
Used to drive one as well, beautifully made interior
@nealp885
@nealp885 3 ай бұрын
How many miles have you put on it and anything besides maintenance? I’m looking potentially at a e350 wagon
@bassandtrebleclef
@bassandtrebleclef 3 ай бұрын
You could still get analog gauges in the e-class through 2019.
@gmc677
@gmc677 3 ай бұрын
My 2014 E350 will be my last Mercedes. I can't believe the junk they're making now
@csgarage3682
@csgarage3682 3 ай бұрын
@@nealp885 it has 73,500 miles Bullet proof reliable only serviced at MB dealership. They have actually charging surprisingly reasonable prices. My only complain is NOT being able to add a trailer hitch to the wagon.
@gregj7916
@gregj7916 3 ай бұрын
Don’t think this will be on collectors list in 50 years…
@jaymum23
@jaymum23 3 ай бұрын
Well you think wrong.
@JUNBUGSQUAT
@JUNBUGSQUAT 3 ай бұрын
paying $70k for a 4 cylinders car sounds crazy
@TheAnonomusGamers
@TheAnonomusGamers 3 ай бұрын
Praying you don’t find out about the 2024 C63 AMG lmao
@AngryWalter
@AngryWalter 3 ай бұрын
Then losing 30k in 2 years depreciation
@d.nakamura9579
@d.nakamura9579 3 ай бұрын
@@AngryWalterthat’s not the reason for the depreciation. All luxury cars depreciate more. Duh
@paultruesdale7680
@paultruesdale7680 3 ай бұрын
671 hp, you won’t be lmao when one smokes you.
@d.nakamura9579
@d.nakamura9579 3 ай бұрын
@@TheAnonomusGamersor the 4 cylinder Porsche 718 models
@ranjanthomas5982
@ranjanthomas5982 3 ай бұрын
MB product team : so which gimmicks should we include? MB management: YES!
@chrislim7976
@chrislim7976 3 ай бұрын
6 cylinder needs to be the base engine at that price point and a MB badge. You can only be distracted by gimmicks so long.
@paulm6481
@paulm6481 3 ай бұрын
1000% this.
@YachtsOnTheReg7
@YachtsOnTheReg7 3 ай бұрын
I'll take my 2013 Lexus GS 350 AWD with 306 hp NA 3.5L V6 over this all day every day.
@CarsofGlasgow
@CarsofGlasgow 3 ай бұрын
you forget you can buy a 2.0l range rover sport or jaguar xj. never mind the amount of 4 cylinder 5 series and E class cars on the market.
@chrislim7976
@chrislim7976 3 ай бұрын
@@YachtsOnTheReg7 I'm considering that 3.5 6 cyl engine in the Lexus IS. Sadly feels like could be the end of an era.
@chrislim7976
@chrislim7976 3 ай бұрын
@@CarsofGlasgow Reality is not many people look or care anymore what is under the hood and ARE distracted or comforted by gimmicks while companies are ok charging $70K for 4 cylinders and a turbo.
@acerimmer8338
@acerimmer8338 3 ай бұрын
I used to love tech. Now I've grown to loathe it. We've reached a point where modern tech is superfluous and distracting. Innovation is dying in pursuit of annoyance.
@ForeverDownByLaw
@ForeverDownByLaw 3 ай бұрын
I've grown to despise the focus by car reviewers on "tech", and the word "tech".
@2steaksandwiches665
@2steaksandwiches665 3 ай бұрын
This. I’ve been looking at used cars about 15 years old because I don’t wanna deal with it. We just got a new pilot and the rear passenger sensor for the seatbelt keeps going off. In my 15-year-old Volvo we don’t have that problem.
@caleb7674
@caleb7674 3 ай бұрын
I thought manufacturers learned already that removing the volume knob is generally not well received?
@iosgaming2824
@iosgaming2824 3 ай бұрын
They’ve learned that already abd spyshots of the 2026 GLS interior shows the volume slider is coming back
@future62
@future62 3 ай бұрын
I am generally OK with tech (I own and love a VW ID.4 for example) but this is insanity. And the problem with leaning on tech is it gets democratized. But luxury does not. A Mercedes from the 80s feels more special than 99% of modern cars even though it doesn't have video conferencing or Netflix. THATS what people want in a Mercedes.
@Wasabi9111
@Wasabi9111 3 ай бұрын
The challenge is how do you stand out as being luxury when a modern civic has 90% of the similar tech.
@ACabral711
@ACabral711 3 ай бұрын
@@Wasabi9111 the same way Mercedes became a status symbol in the 80s even though GM was putting more tech in Cadillacs. Exclusivity and astronomically awesome build quality. A modern Civic or Jetta feels cheap compared to my 23 Arteon for example, so you could look at that and say "hey why did you buy this $35k car that has the same tech as a $25k car" and I'd tell you to open and close the door and feel the difference. Same deal with my 89 560SL compared to a Cadillac Allante (the Allante is a lovely car too though). In my opinion, luxury is the details, reasonable power, reasonable space, material choices, how well isolated components are without loss of body control.
@AI-qd4vb
@AI-qd4vb Ай бұрын
@@Wasabi9111 by going that extra 10%... Doing everything that civic does, but better, faster, brighter, and then adding some cherry on top.
@ryans7097
@ryans7097 3 ай бұрын
I've seen 350s on lots around me for 80k!! The quality on these cars continues to decrease but they load them with tech basically no one is asking for to try justifying the absurd pricing. Less and less car for the money but hey, people will always be blinded by the three pointed star. Feels like MB is trying to see just how far they can push providing the cheapest product for highest price.
@turnne
@turnne 3 ай бұрын
$40-50 K less than an S class...and Mercedes practically owns that market in the United States
@Skfkf1393a
@Skfkf1393a 3 ай бұрын
@@ryans7097 I’ve had 1 C 1 MLE 3 Es in the past 15 years. All 6 cylinders. I’m done with Mercedes.
@jaymum23
@jaymum23 3 ай бұрын
Quality has increased. You’re talking out your ass. No one with a brain would rank the build and materials of a W211 or W212 over a W213 or W214.
@AI-qd4vb
@AI-qd4vb Ай бұрын
@@Skfkf1393a You have a 6 cylinder in this one too you bozo... Nobody is forcing you to buy the 4. And this one is actually an I6 which is better than all your previous v6s, which were less refined, powerful or efficient compared to the m256.
@kevinclapson
@kevinclapson 3 ай бұрын
"Can you option a physical gauge cluster?" MB: no, but you can pay more for a 3d rendering of one! I feel like these tech heavy design cues are are based on market feedback from people who Uber 80% of the time. Its long past the point of being absurd.
@colin-nekritz
@colin-nekritz 3 ай бұрын
I’m always bummed with either of you do solo driving impressions. Mark and Jack both in the drive interacting make for the best videos.
@revvolutions
@revvolutions 3 ай бұрын
I miss Jack's laughter the most, only Mark can do that.
@Middleguy37
@Middleguy37 3 ай бұрын
75K for a 4 Cylinder... what a deal
@KNRS927
@KNRS927 3 ай бұрын
The e class has been coming standard with a 2.0L engine since 2015, fyi. And in 2024, more cars are downsizing and 4 cylinders in luxury cars is just gonna be the new normal.
@ccabz08
@ccabz08 3 ай бұрын
@@KNRS927 middleguy37s point stands
@KNRS927
@KNRS927 3 ай бұрын
@@ccabz08 not really, it’s 2024. Even the A6 and 5 series come standard with 4 cylinders iirc.
@troyberber2324
@troyberber2324 3 ай бұрын
18k for the 4 pop 10k for the suspension tuning 1k for the audio system 30k for the badge 20k for the disco light show and fruit ninja, angry birds, Pokémon Go and such.
@NomenClature-o8s
@NomenClature-o8s 3 ай бұрын
Why are you concerned about the engine? It’s the rest of the car that drives the cost. Besides, Mercedes buyers never open the hood.
@splewy
@splewy 3 ай бұрын
One thing I hate about a lot of these new giant car screens is just how dated the UI already looks on them. Mercedes is the worst offender too. All of the graphics and text look straight out of 2008 Windows Vista, with their excessively busy skeuomorphic designs.
@TheGreektrojan
@TheGreektrojan 3 ай бұрын
100% While I don't like the overly screen focused design, if you are going to do it, you really should have a high end UX dev on staff to make the vehicles feel as modern/updated as possible.
@ErZocktLP
@ErZocktLP 3 ай бұрын
i disagree. I hate the super flat UI trend. Everything looks the same.
@mtadc1545
@mtadc1545 3 ай бұрын
The worst part is the slow refresh rate in the screens. We are all now used to at least 120hz screens that are fluid and these are still like 40hz and they fill them up with screens.
@watuwantt
@watuwantt 3 ай бұрын
Agree with you Mark. I miss the classy interior of 2012-2015 era
@michaelhatfield5808
@michaelhatfield5808 3 ай бұрын
I own a 2015 E63S and the interior is 1000x better than this tech smorgasbord that will date before this video is finished.
@AI-qd4vb
@AI-qd4vb Ай бұрын
@@michaelhatfield5808 no its not. Your car is way less insulated, uses macphersons up front, lol, and the entire material selection is pretty much glossy wood and rubberized plastic. This new E class rides better than your gens S class.
@arda_
@arda_ 3 ай бұрын
That screen is an option that is very easy to leave out. It doesn’t come bundled with good packages which is a positive. It looks awesome without it, has all the wood trim and look straight out of a luxury yacht. I wish that was communicated in this video. Touch controls on the steering wheel and lack of a non touch volume knob aside. The base screen setup looks and works awesome imo.
@haze1123
@haze1123 3 ай бұрын
Man, that interior. They've gone from understated class... to Shanghai neon karaoke nightclub. Anytime the volume knob is deleted/reinvented, you're going in the wrong direction.
@kraenk12
@kraenk12 3 ай бұрын
Just don’t get the hyperscreen
@colingoldthorpe5918
@colingoldthorpe5918 3 ай бұрын
When the screens go blank what happens then 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ I had that happen with the Ford sync system. That Edge sat at Ford for months waiting for a replacement unit.
@KillaninjaFC
@KillaninjaFC 3 ай бұрын
How to afford an S-class on an E-class budget: Ask for the loaner while yours is in the shop
@AI-qd4vb
@AI-qd4vb Ай бұрын
sme think it happens to all cars... You take it for a fix. And iff your dealer is that incompetent that it needs months to fix your car, search another one.
@ryanbaker2048
@ryanbaker2048 3 ай бұрын
An interior for the grown up iPad babies
@paultruesdale7680
@paultruesdale7680 3 ай бұрын
Blame the ones who gave them the IPad, people who are brought up differently than you, live and most likely expect differently.
@BabyKobeeee
@BabyKobeeee 3 ай бұрын
Are you from the future? Ipad kids are still kids lmao I don’t think they’re shopping for a $70k Benz just yet
@gikigill788
@gikigill788 3 ай бұрын
The average age of the E Class buyer is in the 50s. They didnt even have cellular networks in their childhood😂😂.
@goblinsquirt
@goblinsquirt 3 ай бұрын
Built-in camera into the dashboard is borderline dystopian.
@Aki_Lesbrinco
@Aki_Lesbrinco 3 ай бұрын
Yeah. When I saw that the first thing that popped into my mind was "How can anyone be ok driving around with a camera pointing right at their face on a car that is constantly sending data to God knows where?
@paultruesdale7680
@paultruesdale7680 3 ай бұрын
Easy to put a cover on it.
@MuzixMaker
@MuzixMaker 2 ай бұрын
@@paultruesdale7680that’ll probably void the warranty
@mikent256
@mikent256 3 ай бұрын
Is it just me or is the E 350 badge misaligned? 3 seems higher than the 5, and the 0 seems even higher than the 5? 0:38
@boy638
@boy638 3 ай бұрын
Probably just the camera angle, they use physical templates to align set badges so it's impossible to misalign just one badge. Of course, it's possible it's been removed and re-applied at some point by a 3rd party where misalignment can totally happen.
@paulbugoni2846
@paulbugoni2846 3 ай бұрын
Agree. Hans must have built this on a Monday morning or Friday afternoon.
@wangzhang4089
@wangzhang4089 3 ай бұрын
You are not alone
@The_Noticer.
@The_Noticer. 3 ай бұрын
The 5 is misaligned, yes. Draw some lines on it, and you'll see it.
@lanre9894
@lanre9894 3 ай бұрын
​@boy638 it actually seems it's not perfectly aligned but there's no way something like that happened at the factory.
@Chicago327
@Chicago327 3 ай бұрын
Tech has ruined and crippled new cars. Sickening!
@Wasabi9111
@Wasabi9111 3 ай бұрын
What do you mean? When I occasionally drive my friends 2010 Toyota w/o cameras, sensors, gps, CarPlay, etc, the car feels so antiquated and difficult to drive. It makes you realize how much I have come to rely and enjoy all the modern tech.
@Carbon3979
@Carbon3979 3 ай бұрын
​@@Wasabi9111 you might just be a bad driver and you need a crutch to drive decently
@Wasabi9111
@Wasabi9111 3 ай бұрын
@@Carbon3979 haha. I just enjoy the convenience of modern tech. What modern tech do you disable in your car bc you don’t like them…. gps, backup camera or sensors, streaming music, phone mirroring, Bluetooth, abs, etc?
@Carbon3979
@Carbon3979 3 ай бұрын
@@Wasabi9111 if your having difficulty driving a fvcking 2010 toyota thats got nothing to do with tech or whatever your going on about your just bad at driving, my dead dog could decently drive a 2010 toyota
@DV-ou1yu
@DV-ou1yu 3 ай бұрын
​@@Carbon3979Imagine being rude because someone prefers tech and you don't
@paulhenry913
@paulhenry913 3 ай бұрын
Drove one. I didn't think it was that comfy and getting in and out of the back seat was challenging. Braking felt weird. For 70k didn't blow me away😮
@Euphorica
@Euphorica 3 ай бұрын
It's a base model Benz
@Wasabi9111
@Wasabi9111 3 ай бұрын
You have to get the air suspension for the nice comfy ride. And I agree, the e class back seats are cramped and weirdly upright.
@mategombas771
@mategombas771 2 ай бұрын
@@Wasabi9111hoping too much from air suspension is misleading. All natural bouncing is canceled, not harsh but not relaxing
@Wasabi9111
@Wasabi9111 2 ай бұрын
@@mategombas771 I love air suspensions. I’m the worst sleeper and could never sleep in cars. However when we got our first car air suspension 15 yrs ago, it was the first time I fell asleep as a passenger. Since then we have had several cars w air suspension and I realized it’s the way they ride/floag that enable me to sleep.
@AI-qd4vb
@AI-qd4vb Ай бұрын
which other 70k car rides better than this? And how the f*** do you have issues getting in or out out of an E class? Are you Yao MIng? I drove it stock, without the air suspension and is better at dealing with road imperfections than any other mid sized sedan. A Genesis G80 feels pedestrian next to it. It also drives a lot better. Its precise, transmissive, agile and feels very natural in its movements and weight control. Keep in mind Im speaking about the bae model. No air dampers and no rear steering.
@dawnpoint
@dawnpoint 3 ай бұрын
Cars like these are why me, my family and friends have started hoarding 90s cars.
@mattclark1278
@mattclark1278 3 ай бұрын
Even the stuff from 00-10...
@klwarhouse
@klwarhouse 3 ай бұрын
Soon we can start hoarding cars from the 20's to 30's 😂
@Jazzmaster1992
@Jazzmaster1992 3 ай бұрын
I don't know if you have to go that far back. Anything up until the mid 10's seems like it's less loaded, with mostly or all analog control.
@klwarhouse
@klwarhouse 3 ай бұрын
@@Jazzmaster1992 I was referring to hoarding cars from the 2020's and 2030's. Poking fun of people that always crave cars from 30 years ago when they were "simple", but hate new cars. Eventually it will be 2060 and cars will be too "complex" for some, and they will start hoarding cars from the 2030's, back when it was a "simpler time".
@a.m.9357
@a.m.9357 3 ай бұрын
I am on the hunt too. Sick of these screens and "touch sensitive" gimmicks.
@rw0037
@rw0037 3 ай бұрын
I'm sorry, but in a $70k, $80k+ luxury car, a smooth 6 cylinder with over 300hp should be the BARE MINIMUM in 2024. I can get turbo 4 cylinders for less than half that price in economy cars/crossovers. I'm sure the top priorities for a person dropping $80k for a luxury sedan are fuel efficiency and cheap party trick tech gimmicks, right? This should not be acceptable for MB, but here we are.
@waterzap99
@waterzap99 3 ай бұрын
Most people don't know how to open their hood or how many cylinders their car has. I had someone tell me once they bought a car because of the amount of cup holders it had.
@3lmanana
@3lmanana 3 ай бұрын
In Europe the most basic engines are the most common. Mercedes E220d, BMW 520d, Audi A6 2.0 TDI… In Croatia I would say 99.9% of buyers get basic diesel engines.
@patrickstonetree1
@patrickstonetree1 3 ай бұрын
The difference between the Audi 2 liter inline 4 and the 3 liter inline 6 is the difference between nice and luxury. I know because my wife has the 3.0 and I have the 2.0. No way I would spec an A6 or A6 competitor with the inline 4. Air suspension and a 4 banger? No thanks.
@davidnjuguna9477
@davidnjuguna9477 3 ай бұрын
Rich people (vieux rich, not the nouveau riche) are actually quite frugal.
@patrickstonetree1
@patrickstonetree1 3 ай бұрын
@@davidnjuguna9477 Not to the point of buying the cheap engine in an otherwise expensive vehicle, to the point of buying a Mercedes E series wagon instead of a Bentley.
@whatchis1120
@whatchis1120 3 ай бұрын
To me this car is so much better looking than the previous w213, and I'm glad they gave it a different front end than the C or S class. This will most likely be my next car, the digital lights, 4d burmester, driver assist pack, and 19-20 inch wheels with the 6 cylinder. I'm a highway commuter over an hour daily and it's night time of wee hours when I come home, hence some of the packaging. I couldn't care less about the super screen, another screen to replace as it ages or not. The high beam assist is the same way on my Audi partially annoying on a backroad it's usually the white signs, on the highway they're the best I've ever had most of the time. These mid sizers are basically the size of the full size sedans of a couple gens ago.
@nsbioy
@nsbioy 3 ай бұрын
Would a 4-cylinder be a better for a long commute?
@user-ew6jy9mo4r
@user-ew6jy9mo4r 3 ай бұрын
Mercedes E and S class damping has always been spot on! The “skyhook”.
@robwoods5434
@robwoods5434 3 ай бұрын
First of all - this was a great and very balanced review. You guys deserve every subscriber you get - and hope it continues to grow. The attention to detail with the engineering of the car was fantastic for a geek like me. We recently had our 2017 Mercedes in the shop at the dealer and they gave us a newer loaner with all of the massive screens. Not having physical buttons for basic tasks was NOT a positive. The steering wheels controls were pretty good, but still had to use the screen more than we wanted to. But the car was beautiful, comfortable, and felt like a luxury product overall. My daily driver is a GMC Sierra truck with Google Integration. That is the best tech I've ever had in any car and the voice commands work flawlessly. To me, that is the technology benchmark for Mercedes to beat.
@OldRustySteele
@OldRustySteele 3 ай бұрын
So, this E Class isn’t sporty and isn’t fast. It’s somewhat luxurious. So why not get a Lexus ES350 which has a V6, instead? Pretty much the same type of vehicle - quiet, smooth, semi luxury. You can get the Lexus optioned to the max for $55K MSRP.
@lizparks1662
@lizparks1662 3 ай бұрын
Or why not just get the E450 with the inline 6? Perfect blend of luxury and sport for this price point, and it looks leagues better than the lexus inside and out. Drives much better too
@KNRS927
@KNRS927 3 ай бұрын
@@lizparks1662I’d probably get a Genesis G80 over both of these.
@little123456788
@little123456788 3 ай бұрын
ES 350 will lose its V6 in a year or two 😢
@ziplock8316
@ziplock8316 3 ай бұрын
​@@lizparks1662I would stick to the Lexus. At least you know the reliability you are getting. You'd know this if you worked on cars. Germany has produced nothing but garbage after the 90s.
@KNRS927
@KNRS927 3 ай бұрын
@@little123456788 they’ll likely replace it with the 2.0T that’s in the Highlander/RX now or go full hybrid soon.
@Canuckrz
@Canuckrz 3 ай бұрын
I just bought an E7 Pro a couple weeks ago and threw an ikea countertop on it. So far, I'm very happy with it.
@camilstoenescu
@camilstoenescu 3 ай бұрын
Gimmicky shinny screens and cheap plastics, less car, shitty ergonomics, the perfect cocktail for the modern buyers.
@dielaughing73
@dielaughing73 3 ай бұрын
Yeah I'm gonna hold onto my money
@pleasedontwatchthese9593
@pleasedontwatchthese9593 3 ай бұрын
I don't like modern buyers
@jaymum23
@jaymum23 3 ай бұрын
@@pleasedontwatchthese9593 Old man yells at cloud.
@jaymum23
@jaymum23 3 ай бұрын
The plastics are best in class lol go sit in a 5 series or even worse a Japanese car if you want to bitch about plastics.
@AI-qd4vb
@AI-qd4vb Ай бұрын
did you lick those plastics camil? Or how exactly do you know their quality?
@TransformHypnosis
@TransformHypnosis 3 ай бұрын
7:06 SLIPPED AI JACK IN THERE YES
@AKK5I
@AKK5I 3 ай бұрын
I don't know about that there wasn't a mention of the B58
@msdos32
@msdos32 3 ай бұрын
SavageGeese watchers are not John Customer though. We might despise all the screens, but people who go to the dealer who want the badge will be wowed by the screens and that the car has gizmos that mean you don’t have to pay attention to the chore of driving. My relative just got a Mercedes and all he cares about is that it’s comfortable and quiet. He does not miss his Navigator’s buttons and dials and V8. His Merc feels fast, is quiet and comfortable like his Navi and has a big star on the front.
@Tripp55
@Tripp55 3 ай бұрын
I think the best era for cars was the 2010's, right at the cusp of cars coming with some decent safety technology. You had backup cameras, parking sensors. climate control and other features were still physical knobs and buttons. Adaptive cruise control was just becoming main stream and, in a lot of cars, worked really well! Screens were there but weren't "touch". I really do think cars from the 2010's will be highly sought after over the 2020's by people who appreciate things that work.
@paultruesdale7680
@paultruesdale7680 3 ай бұрын
I think you’re comment mainly effects the second hand market. The original owner doesn’t have any real worries due to warranty.
@jaymum23
@jaymum23 3 ай бұрын
No, the 00s had all that plus better styling (almost 90s in proportion), N.A. engines and hydraulic steering. That was peak car.
@lucagattoni-celli1377
@lucagattoni-celli1377 3 ай бұрын
I guess they missed the opportunity to make the E-Class a more approachable, smaller S-Class.
@matteo964
@matteo964 3 ай бұрын
The interior quality here is much closer to the s class than the c class.
@alburaq3290
@alburaq3290 3 ай бұрын
​@@matteo964 Looks really tacky
@matteo964
@matteo964 3 ай бұрын
@@alburaq3290 with the superscreen it is. Without it it looks a clean and well made interior.
@MercOne
@MercOne 3 ай бұрын
They did just that.
@iosgaming2824
@iosgaming2824 3 ай бұрын
@@MercOnefr lol. It’s always a complaint from someone who can’t even afford to lease the car
@matthelms4167
@matthelms4167 3 ай бұрын
My first dream car growing up was a 1981 Audi Coupe GT. My second was a mid-80’s MB 300SDL. Then I graduated college and started dumping cash I didn’t really have into BMW’s (325is, 525i), Volvo 5 cylinders, etc. I was happy and car-broke back then. Fast forward to the past few years - today. I can pretty much afford anything I want within reason (to about $80k or so) and am keeping an eye on what I’d like to drive next. Watching KZbin videos of people driving older Audis with 5 cylinders, Alfa GTV6’s, BMW I6’s baying towards the redline puts a lump in my throat. Current events make me gag, and going back to the feeling of what brought me comfort and joy is what will make me open up my checkbook. There’s zero chance of me picking up a MB, BMW, or Audi. I have a 24’ Volvo XC60 T8. Do I like it? No, its a 4 banger, mildly tolerable, and its cheaper than the MB, BMW, Audi. What will my next car be? If Subaru were to put a turbo on the Forester, I’d buy one in 2 seconds. It has gauges, knobs, and is quirky. If Audi or Volvo put a 5 cyl in their midsize cars I’d line right up. There’s nothing special about MB, BMW, Audi anymore. There’s no “comfort” for the older people who remember (and can afford) the feel of the older cars. The premium carmakers have removed the magic - and their [lack of] sales show it. It’s a shame because lots of hard work goes into the design and engineering of some of these cars. They’ve destroyed the demand for their product, and not everybody will lay out the money for an LC500.
@paultruesdale7680
@paultruesdale7680 3 ай бұрын
Go out kick tires and test drive. You’ve earned it. The car has beautiful lines, option it with the six cylinder and the suspension package, you can upgrade the brakes with the aftermarket.
@neuro.weaver
@neuro.weaver 3 ай бұрын
The problem is that it no longer looks like an E-class. It looks like a specked out CLS.
@OMGVelorium
@OMGVelorium 3 ай бұрын
Worse, the exterior doesn't even look Mercedes. It looks like a 7th gen Ford Taurus had a refresh.
@valiantone395
@valiantone395 3 ай бұрын
😢 but true 😂
@MercOne
@MercOne 3 ай бұрын
WOW, you guys need to get your eyes checked.
@bobdoingbobthings
@bobdoingbobthings 3 ай бұрын
Listening to Rammstein is pretty much mandatory when driving a german car.
@AK_Catholic_Traditional
@AK_Catholic_Traditional 3 ай бұрын
I usually listen to “Eeeeerika” on repeat.
@BrettLevin4096
@BrettLevin4096 3 ай бұрын
Du…
@roberttheiss6377
@roberttheiss6377 3 ай бұрын
@@BrettLevin4096 Du hast
@bobdoingbobthings
@bobdoingbobthings 3 ай бұрын
@@BrettLevin4096 Du hast mich
@supraJZA80s
@supraJZA80s 3 ай бұрын
This latest gen of mercs are so cheap and tacky
@SM-1010
@SM-1010 3 ай бұрын
I can see the tacky with the screens, but there’s the ability to just get two cars screens with a wood dashboard. As for the “cheap” you are completely wrong. The e class has soft touch materials and does what Mercedes is known for (also mentioned in the video): quiet and comfy rides. Seems to me lately all you people do is just focus on the negatives and clearly ignore what sets it apart from your average economy cars
@kraenk12
@kraenk12 3 ай бұрын
Current Mercs have probably the most understated design of all competitors. Tacky they’re surely not
@AI-qd4vb
@AI-qd4vb Ай бұрын
check out a Lexus underneath and then a Merc and do tell us which one is cheap.
@TYAC_red
@TYAC_red 3 ай бұрын
"isolation" and "serene" Yes, my type of transportation. The best choice before flying saucers are for sale.
@simbayoung4757
@simbayoung4757 3 ай бұрын
I don’t understand how these companies keep adding huge screens in car and still talk about safety
@RafalBr
@RafalBr 3 ай бұрын
mercedes went from building legendary cars to selling cheap flashy toys same with bmw and many others
@gman6059
@gman6059 3 ай бұрын
Great. Another aspirational vehicle I no longer aspire to own.
@UzairW
@UzairW 3 ай бұрын
Mercedes: Here's a tablet with a car attached. Me: I want a car with nice driving, comfort, and yes loads of cool tech - ACTUAL hardware tech that helps me such as LIDAR and radar allowing intelligent cruise control, full surround cameras, a nifty heads up display - and NOT this tablet and apps nonsense. These glorified ipad cars will age terribly, and in terms of elegance and beauty and sheer luxury feel marques like Bentley or Lexus do it much better with the dashboards and controls.
@JollyGiant19
@JollyGiant19 3 ай бұрын
But will you spend 70k to buy it new if they did that? So many car people seem to buy second hand so manufacturers build to the tastes of buyers who purchase new on a loan since that’s the money maker.
@JNAMOTORSPORTS
@JNAMOTORSPORTS 2 ай бұрын
Hes a old tablet lol
@2006gtobob
@2006gtobob 3 ай бұрын
The British ad says it all. Give me a damn key to insert into an ignition switch and lets get moving.
@paultruesdale7680
@paultruesdale7680 3 ай бұрын
And round and round we go
@derekwalsh1935
@derekwalsh1935 3 ай бұрын
Love that you guys test audio systems
@mobster2
@mobster2 3 ай бұрын
You can spec out a I6 for 70k as well. This particular model has air suspension, leather etc.
@busterscrugs
@busterscrugs 3 ай бұрын
Interior is better without the optional second screen, that area gets replaced with nice looking wood (or carbon/aluminum) trim.
@The_Noticer.
@The_Noticer. 3 ай бұрын
1:39 who has a haircut like that, for real?
@Dowlphin
@Dowlphin 3 ай бұрын
Looks glued on.
@vulekv93
@vulekv93 3 ай бұрын
​@@Dowlphin Glued on with gorilla glue.
@AKK5I
@AKK5I 3 ай бұрын
The dei hire actress
@SaintGambrinus
@SaintGambrinus 3 ай бұрын
Great review but your test car must have something wrong with the brakes. I have one as a loaner and I hadn’t even thought about the brakes because they’re calibrated perfectly for a non performance daily.
@Affalterbach1967
@Affalterbach1967 3 ай бұрын
Mr Goose had an extra double espresso before delving onto the multiple laminated glass screens of infotainment Are they really safer than a traditional padded dash ?
@georgehugh3455
@georgehugh3455 3 ай бұрын
_"All these divots...it's about creating LESS turbulence underneath."_ - Divots create MORE turbulence...but, that may create LESS DRAG (like dimples on a golf ball). IMO, location suggests that it could be the texture is actually to reduce liquid adhesion for drag or corrosion purposes, better for panel integrity long term, or it's an NVH measure.
@alburaq3290
@alburaq3290 3 ай бұрын
This kind of touch based implementation needs to be penalised in safety ratings. Texting while driving is illegal but car companies can fit 3 TVs in front of the driver tf 😂
@paultruesdale7680
@paultruesdale7680 3 ай бұрын
Driver can’t see the passenger screen
@AI-qd4vb
@AI-qd4vb Ай бұрын
nonsensical... How are you equating texting with having a bigger screen? You think seen your temp on a bigger screen is worse? Or seen your navi better and clearer is less safe?
@ForeverDownByLaw
@ForeverDownByLaw 3 ай бұрын
I'm impressed by that desk. I really didn't think it would go low enough for Mark. 🙂
@clubracer6
@clubracer6 3 ай бұрын
New cars suck, yet your great review kept me engaged. Get some rest Mark!
@SamLed1111
@SamLed1111 3 ай бұрын
This is not the Benz is Genx'ers grew up with. And that is not a good thing. This is a lease only. And I am sure 70% of people getting into this car will lease it.
@capn_shawn
@capn_shawn 3 ай бұрын
My Porsche Panamera has 104 physical buttons that all work. Buttons take skill to design and layout correctly, not to mention the wiring, I/O, schematics and tech training. Screen programming goes to the lowest bidder.
@sewshiestrip
@sewshiestrip 3 ай бұрын
"We've removed all the artfully designed switch-gear and tactile buttons that gave our previous generations of cars a character and soul and replaced it with a giant fkng iPad. Also it costs more than ever before. ALSO, all our models basically look the same now."
@vishtux7
@vishtux7 3 ай бұрын
Nice review 👍🏻 Covered a lot of important points that everybody else missed in their reviews. Agree with tech assessment - it just screams in your face when you drive it - look at me, I’ve got more screens than Tesla! 🙈
@IDontKnowWhatImDoingDIY
@IDontKnowWhatImDoingDIY 3 ай бұрын
Mercedes brakes have always felt like they're broken, my 124 felt that way, my 140, and my RClass. They still seem to be doing the long travel thing. Good to hear that they are still balancing comfort and capability really well.
@Don_Fisher3
@Don_Fisher3 3 ай бұрын
"Du Hast" on the screen during the interior segment is an incredible touch 🤣
@richardsimms251
@richardsimms251 Ай бұрын
Wonderful and interesting discussion Thank you RS. Canada
@electrikoptik
@electrikoptik 3 ай бұрын
Just the tech? The build quality and reliability is also rubbish as it has been at MB for decades.
@yourmommashouse
@yourmommashouse 3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately , with the E class and under , you aren’t wrong
@matteo964
@matteo964 3 ай бұрын
I've recently tried this car and the interior was vastly more solid than what youtube comments like yours would led you to believe. Realiability? Car has barely been out for a year, how can you call it unreliable lol?
@gordonmccracken1209
@gordonmccracken1209 3 ай бұрын
According to long term repeat buyers it's falling off a cliff with current hybrids, vouchers up to 4K were issued for AMG SL owners due to all issues owners have encountered.
@ttjoseph1
@ttjoseph1 3 ай бұрын
Not for everything. W212 E class was pretty good
@kbomera87
@kbomera87 3 ай бұрын
Your comment is right on point people. Just expensive unreliable junk
@naveeds786
@naveeds786 3 ай бұрын
Great commentary. I'm really enjoying the exterior. Mostly understated and timeless with a little bit of flair. I'd personally skip the superscreen option and stick with the standard single screen. looks much better and replaces a lot of that glossy interior with nice looking wood trim. Glad they brought the all terrain wagon here and hope we get the e53 and e63 (wagon 🙏). I think a PHEV engine option would be a nice fit.
@matthewmarshall5730
@matthewmarshall5730 3 ай бұрын
I think it looks pretty good on the exterior, but for that much money it really just isnt worth it
@paultruesdale7680
@paultruesdale7680 3 ай бұрын
There’s a lot going on in the dash, that’s not available on many vehicles. Maybe this will catch on maybe not?
@jeffmurray1681
@jeffmurray1681 3 ай бұрын
This car will cost you 75 to 80 grand depending on the options. That's insane. However, loaded up pick up trucks are going for the same price. Truly insane.
@KevZJ
@KevZJ 3 ай бұрын
15:48 I knew it! 42 in a 35. I couldn't be sure from your other videos, but now I have proof. You sir, are a scofflaw!
@UserErr0r3578
@UserErr0r3578 3 ай бұрын
The future: In a about 10 years you can order the good old fully analog (looking) gauge cluster, it will be available only with the highest trim levels, as part of the retro package. Priced conveniently somewhere between 15 and 20K. In addition to analog gauge cluster, there will also be mechanical (looking) switches for controlling comfort, HVAC and various assistance systems.* *in addition to the retro switchgear package, active retro package subscription is needed to make the physical switches functional. And base models will get OLED screen clusters, middle trim levels get upgraded 3D OLED clusters. *Amount of information shown in the cluster is dependant on the level of the gauge cluster subscription service.
@AVCONSULTTX
@AVCONSULTTX 3 ай бұрын
If I can offer a few suggestions for the sound system graphs; cutoff the graph at 20Hz--there's nothing useful from the sound system below that. Measure in high res, but present as smoothed OCTAVE data as that more readily represents what you'll actually perceive; the human ear is much more sensitive to broader octave-octave balance than small or narrowly spaced burbles in the response. Those burbles typically vary greatly, depending on the exact seat and head position. Showing the high res measurement, for your purposes, is visual clutter.
@JJ-wi2uw
@JJ-wi2uw 3 ай бұрын
All I see is reflections, reflections, reflections!!!!!!!
@JacesOwnWorld
@JacesOwnWorld 3 ай бұрын
Yes, people who buy brand new luxury vehicles want a relaxed experience. BUT for $70k+, they ALSO want something that performs. A 4cyl just isn’t it…
@brianvenable5350
@brianvenable5350 3 ай бұрын
Are you using 'isolate' for 'insulate'?
@3ducs
@3ducs 3 ай бұрын
A video theater... that can take you places, once you learn how to drive it.
@visheshgoel6671
@visheshgoel6671 Ай бұрын
I have owned two back to back generations of the Audi Q7 ( the most recent and the one before it ). I was shocked to see how much of a backstep the new generation was. The tactile jewellery like knobs and buttons were replaced by a stupid screen. Although it was a good implementation of the screen, it automatically seemed comparable to my seltos, which is crazy. There is no doubt in my mind that even the automakers know they are cheaping out, but since auto journalists are so stupid nowadays they are able to influence consumer decisions and let them get away with such cost cuttings.
@paulfrompayroll
@paulfrompayroll 3 ай бұрын
The divots under the car also help with mpg. Golf balls have divots to reduce the amount of drag on the ball.
@TheodoreVamos
@TheodoreVamos 3 ай бұрын
The personalized sound profile settings within the sound system can increase the base from the sub exponentially in comparison to the pure settings/equalizer.
@xinyaoyin2238
@xinyaoyin2238 3 ай бұрын
it is not about how good or refined a 4 cylinder is, it is about the fact that you are constantly aware that youre driving a 4 cylinder "luxury" car
@Okenpo
@Okenpo 3 ай бұрын
I won’t get hung up on the cylinders, but $70k for 255hp will never be okay to me lol
@paultruesdale7680
@paultruesdale7680 3 ай бұрын
I thought the torque was very respectable for the drivetrain. The only way to judge how it sounds is from the driver’s seat. How it sounds under load. If you can’t hear it, it won’t concern you.
@Okenpo
@Okenpo 3 ай бұрын
@@paultruesdale7680 I missed the torque figure. But the electric assist is nice to get it going. It would just never be on my shopping list.
@papagen00
@papagen00 3 ай бұрын
I remember not so long ago an 8 cylinder was a "luxury experience", now it's a 6 cylinder 🙄
@air-headedaviator1805
@air-headedaviator1805 3 ай бұрын
The E class exterior design is very nice. Compared to the 5 series its stunning
@lld401
@lld401 3 ай бұрын
Can somebody explain to me what is the major difference between the s class and e class in other words what would make you skip the e class and just go for the s class! Because I don't see much difference or what I'm losing out between the classes
@dragospahontu
@dragospahontu 3 ай бұрын
Only space and looks
@andrewlawson4901
@andrewlawson4901 3 ай бұрын
Wasn't impressed from the videos/photos at launch, but saw one on the road a couple of weeks ago. It has way more road presence and uniqueness compared to the previous gen (looks way too bland and similar to the c-class). I dig it !
@oompa02
@oompa02 3 ай бұрын
So which one would you choose or recommend, this E350 or a BMW 530?
@paultruesdale7680
@paultruesdale7680 3 ай бұрын
Test drive both of them, then you decide.
@HiFiInsider
@HiFiInsider 3 ай бұрын
I love the look but too bad Mercedes is not reliable over 60K miles.
@markergt01
@markergt01 3 ай бұрын
0:36 The model designation misalignment is downright embarrassing. MB should be ashamed of themselves.
@Syncopia
@Syncopia 3 ай бұрын
Oh wow, nice catch. The 5 is lower.
@tez69m
@tez69m 3 ай бұрын
Thank you and cudos to you guys for reviewing the sensible and responsible engine choise.
@oommenthms2728
@oommenthms2728 3 ай бұрын
13:42 exactly, so very true. I had the same exact feeling with the brakes being so vague, on renting a 2023 E class. Btw, it would be really interesting to get a comparison of suspension quality of the 2025 E Class & the new Porsche Panamera.
@rosgoncharuk2403
@rosgoncharuk2403 3 ай бұрын
The hyper screen is a deal breaker for any serious buyer/leaser. No one wants to fck around with that mess of a screen!
@yiga4171
@yiga4171 3 ай бұрын
11:04 this is such a great opinion, it helped me see the appeal of the e class.
@CarsofGlasgow
@CarsofGlasgow 3 ай бұрын
Great video, 4 cylinder have been in luxury cars for atleast the last two decades. Thinking back to 2005 era 5 series or even the last generation range rover sport and jaguar xj had the 2.0d 4 cylinder as a option
@ChillingJ
@ChillingJ 2 ай бұрын
Law: You are not allowed use your phone while driving, Mercedes Benz: we have a solution !
@124thDragoon
@124thDragoon 3 ай бұрын
But how likely is it to break immediately after the first person that leases it trades it in for another leased German vehicle?
@ArthurBenetton
@ArthurBenetton 3 ай бұрын
I really like this car. The problem with the Hyperscreen - aside from the general debate around technology - is it looked old from Day 1. It's not good when "cutting edge" design can easily be predicted for "why" it will look old. It will look old because it is very obvious that they wanted the whole panel to be one continuous screen. And already certain cars, Cadillac/Lincoln/Genesis are approaching this reality. Instead the Hyperscreen is an odd patchwork of ill-fitting rectangular screens with large bezels. I actually think the base screen layout looks better and will without question age better.
@kyrosmike
@kyrosmike 3 ай бұрын
Next feature, fart into the vented seats, "sir you have colon cancer"
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