2024 Metal & Rock Grammy Nominations...

Discussing the 2024 metal & rock Grammy nominations...
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[@JustK4Y1512]

Grammy’s: **hear one single electric guitar note** Also Grammy’s: *Yep, that’s death metal*

[@mohitrahaman]

:D:D:D:D:D Imagine eyeliners, piercings, monster trucks, energy drinks for some reason

[@cliffkaiburton]

LMAOOOO

[@AAPTHEANIMATOR]

​@@mohitrahamanthey confuse us with skaters all the time

[@rebekahcarter8120]

So damn true

[@Cerise3544]

I feel like Sleep token should be nominated this year and Spiritbox should have been nominated two years ago when they released Eternal Blue, but Metal grammys are basically lifetime achievement awards anyway

[@bryanlenihan5012]

Thats why I miss Golden Gods that they had a few years ago

[@Ryo7_7]

Yea It would have been awesome to see. Sleep Token and Spiritbox is an example of how good the metal genre is and can blend with any style of music and, mostly, make it sound better lol.

[@kriskeen6739]

Sleep Token should have been nominated too, I agree.

[@DJMeowtastic]

I agree, Sleep Token should’ve been up there

[@trin9264]

Sleep token is pushing boundaries, I think they deserve it for sure!

[@Terminal_liminal]

Actually Ghost exploded worldwide with their 3rd album Meliora released in 2015 and look at the venues they play in as headliners as of today. Sleep Token are going the same way since TMBTE...their...3rd album too.

[@Dr.Spatula]

Nik doesn't think alt and indie rock are a thing I guess

[@Jason17300]

Nik knows literally nothing outside of core

[@mtrps_]

dude sometimes love hearing himself talk more than anything 😅

[@perennials118]

Foo Fighters' new album 'But Here We Are' is absolutely phenomenal. It's cathartic and emotional and a perfect listen from front to back. Hope it wins tbh.

[@TheNurkie]

At least Spiritbox made the list. That is actually pretty big.

[@YoniBenOni]

HUGE W for Spiritbox Wish A7X made the list.

[@whyisyes3957]

Their new album lacks pop-listener appeal the band once had, it’s far too experimental

[@the_tatertot1]

Ghost should always be on there.

[@dankewurst]

3:23 August Burns Red also had Grammy nomination in 2018

[@IsekaisRage666]

Spiritbox, Sleep Token and Bad Omens should’ve all been nominated

[@yoursensei8837]

Life is but a Dream not getting a nomination is fucking absurd.

[@Taco_Miendo]

I was wishing that The warning was going to be nominated for rock being the only actual rock of the moment, but it wasn't so sad vibes😢

[@samuelolaoye1252]

For me sevendust should have got nominated for the Grammys for best metal performance all of their songs are bangers and their album truth killer for me is metal album of the year

[@mobafan3713]

Surprised that "Nobody" by A7X wasn't here!

[@jonnybroomhead]

Jaded is a great pick. My favorite spiritbox song to date

[@AlexandraAbrams-hk6ku]

If there WERE a catagory for best metal album, I’d 10000000% put both Scoring the End of the World by Motionless in White and Take Me Back to Eden by Sleep Token on there bc those albums were each of those bands’ magnum opus, imho… I might be biased bc they’re two of my very fave bands (my Apple Music Replay pretty much consists of Sleep Token, Sleep Token, and more Sleep Token, and I’ve seen both bands live multiple times), but I do feel like each of those albums was genuinely a work of high art

[@cowboysamurai8192]

No Sleep Token/TMBTE No TessaracT/War of Being The Industry will never be not lame

[@stanislawrybinski]

it's like people making nomination lists have heard of 6 rock/metal bands and mix & match them into several categories.

[@GoAsCloseAsYouCan]

Gotta love the Spiritbox nom and it should win tbh

[@georgepavlenko6776]

Might aswell continue the streak so I would definitley want metallica for the win. W songs, W (60 y/o) mans, singing about the first 18 years of life, HECK YEAH. Would love to see Metallica again.

[@teresac-n4214]

I Literally screamed in m y car listening to Spiritbox nominated!!!

[@kornelparoczai1763]

I read Granny Nominations, which is wrong but also somehow right

[@futilerecordings]

It's a god damn travesty that Wax Wings wasn't nominated. That song is epic, much in the way that Phantom of the Opera is.

[@ReINKarnate1]

I wish Knocked Loose or Ice Nine Kills got nominated but I knew they weren't going to

[@whyisyes3957]

Ice Nine Kills have a far too shocking horror image for the nomination to be accepted, and Knocked Loose are just really fucking heavy

[@cadenbooker8842]

honestly just listened to the olivia rodrigo song and i hate that im saying this but it kinda is rock like

[@erllama7596]

I don't know when was the last time I actually watch the Grammy 😅... It is never really a thing in my place.. well at least, in my surrounding...

[@Gamer_yeeter213]

Nobody by avenged sevenfold should have replaced ballad of a homeschooled girl by olivia rodrigo.

[@jsan2548]

I’m always impressed with The Grammy’s ability to completely miss the mark. That said, Jaded is by far the best nomination they’ve made in years.

[@somebodyandthem]

72 seasons is a way better song

[@AgainstTheeWickedlyMusic]

​@@somebodyandthemit's maybe slightly better, but I'd rather see the award go to a new band, for once

[@player12gaming89]

@@somebodyandthem the fact that they recognized the existence of modern metal is already shocking tbh

[@felixdesrochers9940]

Money speaks and Metallica has plenty of it.

[@astral_asriel6956]

Nah Jaded is actually soo good

[@AlienKissy]

For everyone wondering why bands didn't get nominated, it's prob cause they didn't submit. I can imagine a lot of bands don't bother to submit to the Grammys because NO ONE GIVES A F**K ABOUT THE GRAMMYS anymore lol We all know the Nik Nocturnal Awards are where it's at!

[@krystofjanousek2737]

thats what i was thinking with Sleep Token, they stay anonymous (unless they don't anymore feel free to correct me), plus I don't think it would fit their character or the whole thing they have created. even though TMBTE would be something i would love to see there

[@Frederick0220]

Agreed. Like most modern day awards shows, the Grammys are just woke far left political garbage

[@OG-PranksterCat]

Nik, just contact all the metal labels, and convince them to let you host a genuine Metal awards show 😂

[@barrycarter7274]

I mean there are a few genuine ones out there but a lot of them are hosted in London each year like heavy music awards, kerrang awards and golden gods by metalhammer. But it would be sick to have a rock/metal one where we celebrate all of the different sub genres. So, have categories for best metalcore album, best death metal song, best punk album etc.

[@El.Sasquatcho69]

​@@barrycarter7274best progressive metal !

[@eid6584]

Honestly that would be so good

[@jimmyseit934]

well, he did now

[@CDCMusic04]

They gotta add best metal album and best metal song to the list. Best rock album isn’t enough. Heavener by Invent Animate, TMBTE by Sleep Token, etc. all deserved a chance to win

[@jacobsobelman3923]

I second Sleep Token. Surprised to not see them on there

[@joshloaf89]

Invent Animate are incredible!

[@CDCMusic04]

@@joshloaf89 absolutely! definitely one of my favourite bands

[@pookaustin5380]

Agree

[@clonetrooper576]

They used to have metal but it wasn't popular so they got rid of that sub category and just put it with rock

[@nu-metalfan2654]

What really needs to happen is they need to add more categories. Best Metal album Best Metal song Best Rock album Best Rock song Best Prog album Best Prog song Best Punk album Best Punk song Best Indie album Best indie song That’s how you separate them all. Stuff like Arctic Monkeys, The Black Keys, Imagine Dragons, Coldplay and all that shit can be lumped into Indie were that all belongs.

[@ricekrispietreats8973]

Please god no. I love indie rock and there's so much more that it could be given to! Blood Red Shoes, Aligns, Julie, Pretty Sick, Mr. Gnome, The Armed or Destroy Boys would all be way better picks but throwing imagine dragons in there will muddy the indie scene more than it already is

[@nu-metalfan2654]

@@ricekrispietreats8973 I just think Imagine Dragons are an Indie band. I don’t think they should be nominated for anything.

[@lucasmoreno2154]

"Indie" and then lists the most pop artists avaiable that have nothing to do with indie at all lmao. All of those you mentioned are rock pop or pop, even if they get some alternative vibes.

[@nu-metalfan2654]

@@lucasmoreno2154 Well Indie became its own sound and style throughout the 90’s, 00’s and 2010’s. Stuff like Oasis, Blur, White Stripes, The Strokes, Stereophonics, Arctic Monkeys, Kaiser Chiefs, Bloc Party, Snow Patrol, Coldplay, Arcade Fire, Kasabian, Kings Of Leon, Imagine Dragons, Mumford & Sons, Tame Impala, and The Black Keys. That’s all Indie, it’s NOT Rock and I don’t know why they always get lumped in with Rock when they are not Rock at all. I would say R.E.M, The Pixies and Crowded House all started this Indie thing.

[@ulyssesperez1989]

Imagine Dragons is Alternative. They're too all over the place to be indie.

[@pookaustin5380]

Hell yea that’s a big ass move for spiritbox!!! I love they got nominated, now if we can get them to win that would be icing on the cake😊

[@mikemaxwell3005]

It would be fun to get Megan Thee Stalion and Spiritbox a Juno for best rap or fan choice.

[@evilemuempire9550]

@@mikemaxwell3005That one’s a lot more possible, the Juno’s are a much smaller pond

[@ryanshinermusic]

So why do people go nuts for this band? I literally just don’t get it. It sounds like middle-of-the-road stuff the Grammys like.

[@samcrorie]

I heard some refer to Ghost as "Scooby-Doo music" 😂 I saw SpiritBox and was like WOOO but yeah I'm surprised Sleep Token wasn't nominated because that album was AWESOME

[@pookaustin5380]

@@ryanshinermusic I don’t think people are going crazy for spiritbox. I think it’s more along the lines of people are happy for them because right now since they were nominated we feel like they are representing the class of bands that never make it to this rigged ass TV show

[@tobias3023]

If one song of Ghost's Phantomime should be nominated for anything, it should have been "Jesus He Knows Me" in some rock category. This cover is just too good. "Phantom of the Opera" isn't bad at all, but even myself as a huge Ghost fan cannot really understand how that song can be nominated for a grammy.

[@lucasmoreno2154]

I think it's because Phantom Of The Opera is a cover from Iron Maiden? As a Ghost fan, I'd be happy with any song from Phantomime ngl, and having either Phantom, Jesus and even Another Hero I would be super happy

[@AngelusaNobilis]

I love their cover

[@rowlands_]

at least from my perspective as a bass player, “Phantom of The Opera” is such difficult song to play. And at least in my opinion they did the OG justice. Ira not better then the OG but the tones and pure musicianship from that song is pretty great.

[@simonlepooh]

saying ballad of a homeschooled girl isnt rock is crazy though, rock didnt stop existing in the 2000s

[@Vdrum1010]

This. These smooth-brained folks see the name Olivia Rodrigo and are immediately dismissive towards her without even giving her stuff a listen. Same goes to boygenius, who have put out a fantastic album with The Record.

[@simonlepooh]

@@Vdrum1010 Totally. But hey, she's just a 20 yo girl, she cant be rock!

[@mirzasadman6670]

​@@simonlepoohwho said she can't?

[@simonlepooh]

@@mirzasadman6670 I was being sarcastic

[@mirzasadman6670]

@@simonlepooh oh gotcha

[@NFLDude56]

The metal category is horrible like the past few years, 2018 and '19 had great nominations. Olivia Rodrigo is a good pick for rock because that song carries the Riot Grrrl punk sound from Bikini Kill, Bratmobile, Breeders, and X, and more importantly it'll piss off all the rock boomers.

[@davidf6886]

I feel like they’ll just tease us with Slipknot and Spiritbox, but it’ll absolutely be Metallica, Ghost, or Disturbed. They always like to give us a glimmer of hope, and then crush us.

[@NXT_LVL]

It'll be Ghost. Disturbed, Metallica and Slipknot are all 20+ year old bands, like how Rolling Stone always has The Rolling Stones somewhere in the top 10, even if its top "new songs of 2023" . Ghost is that band everyone likes because everyone else does, the MGK affect. Spiritbox is newer and up and coming but they dont have the theatrical stage aspect like Ghost does.

[@Ihaveissues-ef8fe]

Ghost is 20 years old? Check your facts they’re only 10

[@tss1473]

​@ghostfacekurdkillah4147 wow i was absolutely not expecting a fellow metal purist under a nik nocturnal video but hell yeah

[@bMt5553]

Sigh. Here we go again.

[@juanjoseireguigarcia4650]

Okay I think you're being kind of way too hard on Olivia. I mean the reason for you to dislike her isn't a very good one imo, and also Olivia is at least enough of a good representation of Pop Punk with this song more than freaking MGK because she's actually young (20 years old), and her new album Guts is pretty good imo. Boygenius is a good band and this song is pretty good although you can consider them more of an Alternative band than a Rock band.

[@tomdoig07]

hayley williams isnt the reason why olivia rodrigo had to credit paramore, it was josh farro that sued her he left in 2010 lol

[@gergoretvari6373]

it's more like an influence than anything. like, aren't people allowed to get influenced anymore?

[@tomdoig07]

@@gergoretvari6373 literally!! its ridiculous he sued icl

[@DarkRav3n]

I've never listened to Paramore, but I just checked out a few songs off that album they got nominated for. Fucking loving it so far, they've got some killer vibes and I can definitely groove to the music. Gonna have to check out the rest of their music too. As far as nominations go, I wish Sleep Token had gotten a nomination. They only recently popped up on my radar, but I've already bought all of their albums and I've been listening to them on repeat. TMBTE is so fucking good.

[@EthanRadell]

How have you never heard Paramore? Wut? Are you like 12 or sum? That's like the biggest theatre kid band that's ever existed. They are dope, yes.

[@MrSevsbeasts]

Old paramore might have had a huge and realistic chance at winning, compared to their new pop sound

[@wozaow]

​@@MrSevsbeastsIt's still great, one of my favorite albums of the year.

[@hasty3132]

@@EthanRadell tbh This is Why was the first Paramore album i ever listened to because they aren't as big here in South America

[@p3nnyroyalteaaa]

happy to see people being open-minded with this is why :D

[@Schumacher190]

Listen, I'm a Ghost fan. I have all their music, many of their vinyls, several shirts, posters, etc.. I fucking love that band... I feel like Ghost is included here because people who don't know rock/metal take ONE look at Ghost and say, "oh, they're pretty popular, and they must be heavy by the looks of them, so we'll throw them on there to appease the metalheads..." Sleep Token belongs here. TMBTE is one of my favorite albums of all time, let alone this year. No album has moved me like that one did. That's a huge snub, as far as I'm concerned. It's inexcusable.

[@whyisyes3957]

I would include orbit culture and In Flams here as well, sure it may be a stretch as they don’t have pop appeal but damn are they great this year

[@footingball5566]

Yeah I haven't listened that much to Ghost but I still cringe everytime someone says it's metal or lumps it together with metal. Lyrical and aesthetic themes are like 5% of a genre. I could make a band called Lucifer's Razor Dildo and be on stage in corpse paint but if the music is just me and my buddy playing bossa nova on a vibraphone, we would not be metal. I know the mainstream music world sucks at non mainstream music but how can you know so little about a subject you're seemingly interested in? It's the same thing with spotify's playlists. I got Ghost in the Death Metal playlist, Sabaton in viking metal and Meshuggah in metalcore. I know they're generated specifically for the user but they are so off that it's honestly almost insulting.

[@whyisyes3957]

@@footingball5566 Yeah Spotify playlists are very non-functional, I once got Gojira and Trivium in a Deathcore playlist

[@Spamus]

You gotta stop harping on the "Olivia copied Paramore" bullshit. This talking point is years old, and it's also false. She only added writing credits to Good 4 You after being pressured by the Internet to do so, and numerous musical breakdowns have determined that she never did anything wrong. She's her own artist. Stop picking on the kid because you don't like her music and just ignore her

[@hasty3132]

Yeah it's insane that Rodrigo released one (1) song two years ago and apparently that means all her songs are Paramore ripoffs. It's even crazier considering Hayley Williams herself said she had no problem with Good 4 U.

[@sourtimeees]

@@hasty3132exactly! and BOAHG is on a completely different album and apparently when she does rock = ripping off?

[@kriskeen6739]

Ghost is maybe my favorite band, but this one belongs to Spiritbox. It's like when they nominated Amazonia by Gojira a few years back. The thing is that winning a Grammy would actually do something for Spiritbox- these other bands don't really need it.

[@Coulter.Machining]

Ghost is always my yearly most listened to band. I love ghost. Damn near listen to a song of theirs every day. A Grammy from a cover song isn’t deserved imo

[@miraculousmeli]

Oms me toooo!!! Twins!

[@skaven666]

As much as I really enjoyed the song (probably my favorite song off of Phantomime), I'd have to agree there. Seems a little odd to have a cover of a 43 year old song be nominated.

[@perma4702]

Even ghost wouldn't put that song up for nomination lol

[@miraculousmeli]

@perma4702 fr but they've only released covers this year so it'd have to be one of them.

[@artOVtrolling]

Ghost is legendary. Not metal, but legendary. Just as much pop as rock.

[@supera_]

I know a lot of people didn’t rock with Life Is But A Dream but it was so creative and had a lot of ambition, so it would’ve been so cool to see them nominated. (Even if the GRAMMYS don’t nominate based on that 💀)

[@stryderguitars]

Honestly that album deserves so much more credit. Takes a couple listens to really get into it but I love it and seeing it live was insanely cool. Definitely at least deserved a nod

[@DrumandGuitar07]

Yeah

[@ToasterPizzaFun]

People really need to stop considering Ghost as a metal band, not as a detriment to Ghost, but because Ghost itself isn’t just metal. It’s basically Tobias Forge making music he likes. The songs are catchy, they’re bops, and they add some spice here and there. There’s no point in trying to squeeze Ghost into a genre when each album is him trying to emulate different styles or eras or themes. It’s just fun.

[@whyisyes3957]

They got lumped in as metal due to their early albums having heavy NWOBHM and Power Metal influence, but since then they’ve leaned more into classic rock/whatever the fuck Tobias wants.

[@sam_giro5293]

Ghost’s cover was fantastic IMO. Vocals were a bit off but I love the instrumentals and how they put it in their own style. I feel like Spiritbox deserves it the most though. They are amazing musicians

[@nathanaelgazzard7989]

Ngl, See No Evil is maybe one of my favourite songs of theirs

[@Osama_Bin_Ladder]

A cover shouldn’t be nominated for a Grammy though, and that’s the point. Nothing against ghost but unless it’s for an original song they don’t deserve the nomination. That’s like nominating falling in reverse for their last resort cover.

[@skaven666]

Vocals were fine to me... not sure what you're talking about

[@sam_giro5293]

@@skaven666 i guess my opinion is factually wrong then

[@skaven666]

Guy, I said the vocals don't sound off to *me,* and I didn't understand what you meant by that. That doesn't mean I'm trying to invalidate your opinion

[@lyxminx1899]

I feel like Nik is way to critical to newer stuff. When a rock song isn't from a boomer band, or a band that isn't mainstream its trash. Don't get me wrong alot of mainstream stuff sucks, but it doesn't mean everything does. I personaly am not really into Olivia Rodrigo, however i do think that she is taking a lot of rock elements and showing it to a younger more mainstream audience. People being introduced to rock is always better. We shouldn't gatekeep rock.

[@foop2954]

I feel like there should be a third category between metal and rock - metalcore/hard-rock-adjacent stuff, because we're seeing a major blend between these genres with Bad Omens, Sleep Token - they aren't metalcore, but not necessarily rock.

[@hulluporo9067]

We already have the Nic Nocturnal Awards.

[@disthymia6929]

It's called Alt Metal, ala Deftones, SOAD, Tool, Faith no More, etc.

[@tss1473]

​@ghostfacekurdkillah4147 tbf it is the Grammys, they don't even give a shit about mainstream metal, let alone trve stuff

[@whyisyes3957]

@ghostfacekurdkillah4147look I love some good old-school and underground metal, but modern metal can be really good

[@isuckatguitar6252]

Shocked that Sleep Token wasn't nominated after so many people were saying it was the album of the year.

[@cagey300]

Dude hands down album of the year

[@blackfox1320]

Overhyped garbage. It's basically avicii with some breakdowns

[@bm813]

Agree but i think bands have to submit their songs/albums if they want them to get nominated, so maybe they didn’t 🤷🏻‍♀️?

[@OrangeJuiceJones00]

Album of the year for people who only listen to like 3 bands lol

[@thepotatolord3052]

Album of the year was Terrasite by cattle decapitation imo

[@TweekMaQuellovero]

Saw Olivia Rodrigo. Thought "We're fucked"

[@buffalogaming3931]

yall can call ghost not metal but that song they were nominated for was metal

[@whyisyes3957]

Yeah it’s a maiden cover, and maiden is metal

[@buffalogaming3931]

@@whyisyes3957 kinda my point yeah, whats wierd is best preformance they never actually preformed the song on their most recent tour at all

[@cryptideli6821]

Nik bro, maybe you should listen to the songs/albums that are nominated before you shit on them! You're literally just saying this is a good/bad nomination based on what you have heard from each artist rather than the ACTUAL piece of work that's nominated...

[@dastardlygonzo]

Spiritbox is my favorite band right now, so I'm super hyped for them 👏👏🤘♥️

[@n1kkmoviezz463]

Hope to see spiritbox or Metallica win that

[@bestevaar7195]

@@shrek_yourselfOld Metallica is still fire tho

[@halla359]

@@shrek_yourself Alot of people including myself liked the album. Sure it doesnt compare at all to their old stuff but many of the tracks are SOLID

[@claytondefreitaslima1169]

glad to see Queens of the stone age nominated, it would be wonderful if they win something

[@Bytrius]

both "But Here We Are" and "This is Why" are fucking amazing rock albums btw, easily my top 5 of the year

[@p3nnyroyalteaaa]

[@nr-bs9qj]

I'm so happy that Spiritbox and boygenius, two of my favourite bands, are nominated but that said I would probably call boygenius some kind of indie rather than rock. So I do understand not wanting them on the rock nominations but it still hurts to see people's reaction to it

[@barrycarter7274]

Think it's mostly because there should probably be a separate category for indie I guess. It's difficult when there are just so many subgenres of rock and metal these days. I've never heard of boygenius until this but I'm not an indie fan really. Based on Wikipedia I'm guessing they're kinda folky as well. I'm sure you're buzzed that they got nominated at least

[@Viper-dz2kw]

@@barrycarter7274it’s kinda crazy how music is so fragmented now that stuff like you not knowing who they were this long can even happen, they’re probably like one of if not the biggest band of this year even if I can’t stand the music it’s hard to deny the overwhelming amount of coverage of them I’ve seen.

[@Simwar]

​@@Viper-dz2kwin the US maybe? Not in Europe

[@Viper-dz2kw]

@@Simwaragree definitely a much bigger US band then outside the US

[@bartekkaczmarek2865]

@@barrycarter7274 i mean there is a subcategory for indie. tbh i love all of the 3 songs that nik hated, but none of it are much "rock songs" - bad pumas are more like rnb, boygenius is more indiepop, and i dont think arctic monkeys would call their new album rock tbh

[@brycenturner1452]

Can we talk about Ghost getting nominated for a cover song

[@-Bishop-]

Avenged Sevenfold not being here is a genuine crime.

[@vincentsoussi]

LIBAD quickly became one of my favourite albums

[@whyisyes3957]

It’s too weird for the pop-centric Grammies

[@Razierra]

As a ghost fan, i love the ghost banter lmao

[@MegaPelmen]

Arctic Monkeys literally did an orchestral album lol

[@demonic_angel_68]

I'm gonna vote for Phantom of the opera by Ghost as best metal performance and for Moonage Daydeam as absulutely incredible music film! 👏🎶 :D

[@Tameot34]

Does he really not know Arctic Monkeys?

[@No.U]

No way he hasn't heard of them

[@Camrynn.ol14]

This is Why and Starcatcher were the best rock albums of the last year IMO. They deserved the nom

[@HockeyR0cky]

Can’t help but be surprised that A7X didn’t get nominated for any stuff from LIBAD on here

[@technickn9n3]

man spiritbox probably work so damn hard on top of writing amazing music I really hope they win

[@icanmakeeverythingilovedie9861]

Boygenius is actually pretty good if you're into that folky/indie-rock style stuff.

[@Aeryon_616]

I’m so happy for Spiritbox!!! I really really hope they win! Other than that, it’s mostly boring sh*t. I mean, where’s Sleep Token indeed? They definitely deserve some attention for the amazing music they make. Edit: also, where’s Bad Omens, they’re on a roll too?

[@evilemuempire9550]

Gotta disagree with Nick’s dismissal of Olivia Rodrigo, not that I’m a fan, but at least she’s not being wheeled out for her 932nd Grammy like Metallica or the literal White Zombies that is the Rolling Stones. I like both Metallica and the Stones, but they don’t need another Grammy.

[@whyisyes3957]

True at least she isn’t a legacy act

[@agustincasciero]

I truly don't understand your hate for the Arctic Monkeys lol, probably because of how overplayed their biggest hits are

[@Nornfang]

As a prog metalcore stan, olivia Rodrigo actually writes good songs lol

[@mirzasadman6670]

fr. people just get mad at anything these days.

[@Mina-12128]

People think it's cool hating on her for anything. She's out here doing her thing and doing it well.

[@B_E_C_K]

C'mon Nik you need to let them know "Phantom of the Opera" is an Iron Maiden cover from Maiden's first album in 1980. That song is over 43 years old...

[@matthewroberts3125]

If I were on the Grammys committee, my picks for best metal performance would've been: The Summoning by Sleep Token Wildfire by Periphery Take Shape by Code Orange ft Billy Corgan Everything is Quiet Now by Knocked Loose Jaded by Spiritbox

[@natec4743]

Olivia Rodrigo absolutely makes rock songs. Pop rock is still rock. At least she exposes pop fans to real instruments, so I wouldn't be so dismissive of her.

[@miguelgarcia3324]

Olivia Rodrigo is saving rock

[@SciTechIAm]

How watch the World burn is not nominated to best video lol , how sleep token is not even nominated , what about bmth? Lmao , grammys suck

[@KaleDai26]

Ikr. Sleep Token was amazing and bmth released their best track in years AmEN! What more do these guys have to do to get nominated lol. Also FIR's music videos have better CGI than some movies which we have to appreciate.

[@SciTechIAm]

@@KaleDai26 agree bro , world sucks.

[@ceceliataylor84]

I gave up on the Grammys YEARS ago. Knocked Loose got nom robbed!!

[@AlessandroSoturne]

Can someone explain to me why he don't like Boygenius? They are not your average rock band but they still are...rock?

[@psych4003]

Nah I won't take the Olivia Rodrigo disrespect. Ballad Of A Homeschooled Girl is ACTUALLY a good song. And she isn't just ripping off Paramore, on the song. It's an actually good song with good lyrics, a catchy chorus, and good instrumentation that SHE WROTE HERSELF. If Nik listened to it I think he would actually like it, it's really fun.

[@JCaleb]

bro shut up, the song that she ripped off from Paramore is "good 4 u", go on spotify and check the credits, they list Hayley Williams in there 🤣variety.com/2021/music/news/olivia-rodrigo-paramore-good-4-u-misery-business-1235048791/

[@lucydog196]

no u stfu and she gave them credits not to create drama on her first singles@@JCaleb

[@hamoink6769]

No it's not. Also she kinda ripped off Beck's loser with one of her other new songs.

[@psych4003]

@@JCaleb I know, and I'm telling you, I can barely hear the so called similarities personally. Also, Olivia and her team did that because of the insane backlash Olivia got from people claiming she ripped off paramore.

[@mirzasadman6670]

tell em 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

[@mcdreisig7924]

I think it's great that Olivia Rodrigo got nominated for best rock song, because the rock grammy nominations need more young artists/bands, instead of being full of boomer bands.

[@adamc013]

I'm surprised he shit on her so much considering most metalcore is just rewriting the same shit over and over. The Olivia Rodrigo song is straight up modern "The Runaways" which is, quite frankly, as rock as it gets.

[@jmm5994]

Immediately went over to Olivia's live on Kimmel vid after watching this one and hard disagree with niks immediate dismissal. It was pretty good and I'd absolutely have put that on my playlist back in the day

[@Ravenstorm163]

Do Alter Bridge then they became pop as the Judgement Day started using The Other Side ehile Edge still uses metalingus Matter of fact The other side is in Drop b flat like the concidered song Holiday so Possibily they were scared in their defence

[@OrangeJuiceJones00]

He's already a boomer, and also dismissing Paramore like that when their new album is probably better than anything he or his chat listened to this year lmao

[@slasher2744]

ballad of a homeschooled girl is actually a really fun rock song, i think it'll be really refreshing if she wins

[@mrseaweed88]

Paramore being nominated is actually a huge W, this is why is a great alt rock/post punk album.

[@p3nnyroyalteaaa]

exactly!

[@CivilianSatellite]

There were a few years where August Burns Red was one of the Grammy’s go-to picks for metal. Wouldn’t mind seeing that come back, but good for Spiritbox for getting even more spotlight.

[@ArcadeHawk]

Don't get me wrong, I'm SO HAPPY that Spiritbox got a nomination. But how in the world did The Summoning not get Sleep Token a nomination??

[@northnick3317]

This is so depressing, considering that this was an incredible year for Technical Death Metal, and not even one of those bands got looked at :'(

[@lutter4818]

I don't think Tech Death is big enough for the mainstream people who do the grammys

[@northnick3317]

@@lutter4818 so sad, but true. I mean, Cynic's 'Ascension Codes' came out two years ago. Despite it not being tech death, it could have been a good introduction to it, had it been nominated. Idk, but these grammys have to start somewhere, otherwise the youth will listen to music like "regueton" forever :'(

[@lutter4818]

@@northnick3317 I mean, I don't think we genuinely need the grammys to introduce people to more subgenres. Most of us didn't start with Tech Death, but with gateway bands like Slipknot anyways. What I would like is music awards for those more niche subgenres, made by the community.

[@northnick3317]

@@lutter4818 You're right, I get your point. However, it's nowhere near common that the Oscars nominate horror movies, than Get Out happened. Hell, once upon a time, animated movies didn't get shit (besides their music) but that changed throughout the years. What I'm saying is that little by little, they should expand their horizon to other subgenres that deserve much needed attention, besides the ones that are needlessly popular. Spiritbox is definitley a win for us, since we never expected to see their names in the grammys. Theirs, and Death Angel's Humanicide, especially Tool's Fear Inuculum's win, are reasons for me to have hope that more subgenres should get the attention too.

[@lutter4818]

@@northnick3317 Maybe, but then again Horror movies are like a bigger genre, you probably wouldn't see a specific subgenre like Slasher or Found Footage in particular. That is kinda how I feel about metal at the grammys. We're getting metal, but not specific subgenres. But I get what you're saying

[@leithalrem]

the grammys are such a joke man...

[@SuperKavv]

Absolutely love Boygenius and I'm stoked their album is up for 7 Grammys. That said, I was surprised to see them in the rock category. They have rock songs, but "Not Strong Enough" is not one of them. It's pop anthem banger and it slaps, but I wouldn't call it rock. For those curious, I'd call Boygenius an alternative indie folk/pop/rock band. I'm interested to see if they can win the general categories up against Taylor Swift, but they also nominated in alternative, which I think they could win. In any case, super stoked.

[@realtealcovers232]

I’m super happy they are getting some attention! That album is so good.

[@ancientdragon6049]

This is why is so good honestly. Very consistent, fun, excellent production and the instrumentation is great. I think it's clearly better than the other albums of this list. So happy to see spiritbox

[@mmf-rules]

I'm ok with Olivia Rodrigo being nominated here, but I wish it was with the All American track instead, and props to Spiritbox for representing Modern Metalcore on the nominess, last time I saw something like that was with I Prevail back in 2019, we need more Metalcore stuff on Grammys. 🙌 I hope next year Memphis May Fire, Beartooth and Silent Planet get a nomination here, they are my votes for modern metalcore nominees 🙏

[@LordMorgoth90]

Olivia Rodrigo has a lot of Pop songs, yes. But also Alt Rock / Pop Punk songs. And she is way better than many "Classic Rock", "Real Rock" or whatever the f*ck you wanna call that 60 years old sh*t, so she being nominated is actually a good thing for Modern Alt Music (and that includes Rock). Love you mate.

[@BoothMiltTony]

I think you are going to heavy on Olivia Rodrigo. When it comes to metal you're all like put new bands there and when it comes to rock you're like just gimme the old shit, nothing new here please

[@justjeemy5646]

arctic monkeys slaps but sculptures of anything goes is not a rock song so i'm with you on that one

[@bradyung798]

Spiritbox!!!!

[@bjhellstream]

Rolling Stones, Foo Fighters, QotSA, Arctic Monkeys. Sounds more like 2004. If Ghost isn't metal then Iron Maiden isn't either because Ghost did a good job on that cover. If you define metal from an extreme point of view then you're just wrong. Even Spillways is metal. Hair metal but still. I hope Spiritbox wins. The only modern metal in the mix. And great too. Lorna shore should've been on there with Pain Remains. Saw them live yesterday. Amazing.

[@WompRok]

Knocked Loose really deserves this win

[@punkdoggo211]

"Olivia Rodrigo basically is Paramore" No. No no no. Take that back. Idc how much she rips off Paramore she will never be anything like them.

[@SEVEN_DUCK]

Sevendust - Everything was actually the best rock song this year and they usually wrote music that leans more nu metal lol

[@jaredwilliams1031]

Sevendust is great and they just keep going. A lot of those bands are still releasing pretty good stuff.

[@theicedevil]

I feel that the Grammys Metal award is a sympathy award. Metal is an afterthought. This is why they always nominate 20 year old bands on the Metal award, because they are completely out of touch with Rock and Metal music.

[@santiagojimenez5120]

Where’s Avenged tho? 😭

[@ShonnDaylee]

In the bin.

[@PvtAnonymous]

@@ShonnDaylee where they belong now.

[@d34thscyth34]

I have a feeling that if Nik would check this on saturdays stream "try not to cringe / be positive" challenge, mods would bank a lot of dollars 🤣