2024 Model 3 Performance Stock Lap / Laguna Seca /

[@DynamicistDante]

This is "the video" I was desperately looking for. Exactly what I need over a bunch of other useless reviews. Thank you!!!!

[@jeffufcfanaticrosenberg]

absolutely nuts !

[@priusdrivetrainowner]

Really good driving man! I was impressed by seeing this video. Someone finally using these Model 3 Performances for something other than drag racing is nice to see, and with a good driver who really knows how to drive one of these and make full use of its performance. I feel the 2 main weak points of this car is the weight and battery cooling. The Model 3 family in general are very track capable and I really hope someone makes a breakthrough on battery cooling for these performance EVs because I feel that is their weakest point. Despite the weight though the car seemed fairly nimble but you can tell just by listening to the tires and seeing the steering action that this is a really heavy car. Putting those 2 things aside, this thing doing a 1:39.8 is insane. I'm sure if you put better tires on it, it could probably go well into the 1:37 range.

[@stevencase243]

Everything you said is on the money. The weight is heavy but compared to other modern sports sedans it is basically the same. The cooling is the biggest disappointment though. Maybe the next gen car will be an improvement.

[@d.524]

Weighs less than a M3 comp

[@MrAdopado]

Heavier than a dedicated track car of course but pretty average for a modern road orientated sporting saloon/sedan.

[@Raymaster7482]

Tesla should take a close look at Hyundai... looks like they figured out the cooling with their Ioniq 5 N.

[@stevencase243]

@@Raymaster7482 it's not that Tesla can't solve the problem. They chose not to. They must have determined that it wasn't worth the additional cost and most consumers wouldn't get any value out of the additional cost. But that's also why we are able to have this stupid fast family car for 55k.

[@stevejoesphcase]

Great job from a very good driver.

[@danburkland]

Great lap, can’t wait to see how the mods improve things.

[@Bbronson]

I cant wait for them to be around 25k for the used ev tax credit. Older model 3 performances are right near it. LR are already around 19k with it. Such a great value for performance/efficiency.

[@d.524]

@@Bbronsongonna wait a while buddy. Old performance dropped a lot cause the new one came out

[@DezDriven]

Great driving Steve!!!

[@alksjda]

Crazy. These are Porsche and McLaren numbers 👌💨🤯

[@G82Watts]

What a 10 year old porsche? Bruh this ain't even better then a e92 m3 that's over a decade old 💀

[@satvikarora5813]

@@G82Wattsand E92s are much slower lol

[@bob-qi4nr]

McLaren numbers? Speed phenom did a 1:27.5 Dream on.

[@thibs8801]

Don’t say BS... the tesla did better than a M5 F90 and she’s slower than a m4 of 0,1 seconde...😊​@@G82Watts

[@G82Watts]

@@thibs8801 it can't even complete a more then 1 lap. LMFAO. Misha already tried around nurumbring and said the brakes were trash and then after the car overheated. Rysmons has a whole video talking about it. Never compare a tesla to a bmw my guy. Teslas are for brokys

[@Shiftheads]

Nice run. I can definitely see the difference in power over 100mph compared to last gen.

[@stevencase243]

It's significantly faster after 40mph

[@Bbronson]

Older model tapered down around 80-100mph while this one seems to pull up until 120mph.

[@GreenTorque]

Meanwhile Shanghai built M3Ps have same power as last gen😭😭😭

[@vikramkirby]

This is great to see, thank you. I have a M3P on order and am researching what I need to do to get it to handle the occasional track day (coming from a Civic Type R.) Any thoughts on the MPP "Page Mill" rotor upgrade ($1K) vs full BBK ($5K?) Am hoping the rotor improvement, pads, fluid will be enough to handle ~5 laps with regen off, but not sure.

[@stevencase243]

@@vikramkirby I would recommend just upgrading the pads, fluid and remove the dust shields at first and see where that gets you. The two piece rotor from MPP is good enough for most people.

[@JonNewell]

Great to be able to hear the tyres without engine and exhaust noise.

[@sarchizm]

Awesome, just need quieter tires lol. Love my M3 just want the performance version.

[@suunto61]

OK. First, these can really only be compared to post repave lap times due to big use of the new T5 pavement. Great job braking into T2. You really stayed on the accelerator over/through T1. T9 would definitely left a bit of time on the table. No doubt you can pull off a tenth or two. Nice run. And now with the chargers and new service on site, you can do more than one run without brining in a bunch of diesel electric generators.

[@stevencase243]

@@suunto61 there's definitely time in it. But Id like to see someone else try to do better stock. Very little time to practice and perfect a lap.

[@DezDriven]

🔥🏎️🏁 Steven what were your tire pressures on the stock Pirellis?

[@stevencase243]

42-44 hot ish

[@DezDriven]

@@stevencase243 thank you sir!!!

[@daniloreyes2]

Awesome...

[@xyzaal]

similar at a Porsche 911 Carrera 4S (991) so its very good !

[@OlavAlexanderMjelde]

Would be fun if you first mod just square 265 or 275 tires with good grip and then try new lap with camber arms.. (before you go to lowering and/or coilover step).

[@stevencase243]

@@OlavAlexanderMjelde too late 😂

[@runany1]

So if a guy was looking for daily tire you would go Pilot 4S over these? Be better handling and still wear good? That is what prior M3P had right?

[@stevencase243]

The early cars did have ps4s, but somewhere along the line they switched to p zero's. The p zero's are perfectly fine on the street and most likely have less rolling resistance for efficiency.

[@jaysonvillarreal3072]

Love the pilot4s for the street, I’ll be sticking with them in the future for the m3p. I don’t do track days but a bit of spirited driving, never felt loose.

[@av_oid]

@@stevencase243I think all Highland Performance get the P Zero 4 tires. Suppose to be specifically tuned for the changes made.

[@stevencase243]

@@av_oid he mentioned prior generation model 3. Not highland.

[@shampson1975]

I feel like the PS4S is still a better tire. I've got the old and new M3P and I feel like I will switch the tyres on the new one. I think unless you are sensitive to it and really appreciate and notice a better tyre, then you wouldn't mind or care, and that's probably 99% of drivers soo...

[@CyberSkunk90]

Basically drove on the bumper strips and even over them for half the lap lol. Never seen that before

[@stevencase243]

@@CyberSkunk90 I payed for the track day, I'm gonna use the whole track!

[@alex_tanaka]

The straight line power difference is noticeably quicker! What regen setting did you use and did the battery temp hold up? Seems like the new gen has a higher current output.

[@stevencase243]

I have your questions answered in the description.

[@alex_tanaka]

@@stevencase243 thanks for the info! what days are you going to be at Laguna next time? I’ll be there on the 26th

[@nanterre38]

1:39:8. Don’t know Laguna Seca times. Is this a good one?

[@stevencase243]

fastestlaps.com/tracks/laguna-seca-post-1988

[@nanterre38]

@@stevencase243 Thanks👍

[@stupenduzzman]

Great lap! What SOC were you at for this lap?

[@stevencase243]

I'd guess 90% ish. I went out with 95%. Unfortunately, TrackMode didn't save the normal telemetry file to the usb

[@jeffufcfanaticrosenberg]

But battery still gets too HOT after 1 LAP which scks

[@Joda5212]

Why you dont use track mode ?

[@stevencase243]

it is in Track Mode 🤨

[@Joda5212]

@@stevencase243 Not shown on the screen

[@stevencase243]

@@Joda5212 it's literally on the screen

[@IgorekGQ]

What’s the red message coming up overheating?

[@stevencase243]

That's the normal brake temperature warning. I didn't actually feel any fade though. During this lap at least.

[@IgorekGQ]

Ohh I guess it’s too early for overheating once you put some grippy tires then it will get very interesting unfortunately 😢

[@stupenduzzman]

Replace the pads and rotors asap. At full tilt you’ll run them into the danger zone in a single lap. Fade compensation will work for another half lap after that but then it’s GG

[@stevencase243]

@@stupenduzzman yeah, that's the plan. I'm no stranger to tracking these things.

[@stevencase243]

@@IgorekGQ AP bbk from the old car will be swapped over.

[@Highlander1432]

Wish we had flat tracks like this where i live. Makes racing a heavy vehicle much easier

[@stevencase243]

@@Highlander1432 not sure what you mean, Laguna Seca has some of the craziest elevation changes of any track.

[@Highlander1432]

@@stevencase243 I'm in North Georgia The elevation changes here are like an obstacle course

[@stevencase243]

@@Highlander1432For reference, looks like Road Atlanta has a change of 80ft compared to Laguna's 180ft. The climb up the hill at Laguna is no joke, it may look flat on video but it is steep. Then it's a 5 story drop down the corkscrew.

[@Highlander1432]

@stevencase243 Yes I was mistaken Road Atl is not accessible Atl Motorsport Park has extreme elevation changes Takes the fun out of racing

[@stevencase243]

@@Highlander1432 the elevation makes it fun!! Like a rollercoaster.

[@aec258]

Really absurd that Tesla has a track mode on this car and it can’t even do 1 lap without showing red alerts on the screen.

[@stevencase243]

@@aec258 pretty sure it did one lap lol. The brake warnings are algorithms. Not real temp warnings. Which is why I ignore them until I actually feel the brake fade. When I upgrade pads they will be even more wrong. That's the only warning you will see. Battery temperature doesn't give you warning it just slows down on its own.

[@מדינט]

It's still a soulless car to drive.

[@shampson1975]

Not at all. They are actually super fun and engaging. The whole thing about them being soulless is dribble, unless you are someone who wouldn't enjoy an Iron Man suit.

[@מדינט]

@@shampson1975 I had the old model, it was fast from the line (not so much on top end) but boring as hell.

[@daniloreyes2]

@@shampson1975 nice comeback... ummm where to get the suit?

[@G82Watts]

Ill never understand people that buy an EV and think itd anywhere near the experience u get driving a real sports car with a great engine. Such a dull experience. Dude doesnt even have a cool guage cluster screen .

[@sleepy_ipl]

Why do you need to hate on a $47k car that runs similar lap times as $100k true 2 door sports cars? It has a lower cost of ownership vs. a 6-figure sports car and only costs $15 to "fill-up". It is a good daily car that is well rounded and easy on your pockets. If you want to shell out $90k for a bmw m4 comp and spend $150 on oil changes every couple months and $70 to fill up gas every week than good for you.

[@G82Watts]

@@sleepy_ipl sound like a brokie. All that money u think ur saving u lose on resale value 😂 tesla depreciate faster then their battery drains parked due to heat 😂.. enjoy ur basic traffic ass looking car chinese fish looking blob

[@sidthiru1509]

Do you guys hate just for the sake of hating? This car at its price offers great performance and practicality

[@G82Watts]

@@sleepy_ipl so a poor mans m3/m4? Also it's hilarious ur so concerned about gas prices but lose 10s of thousands in resale value. This car in less then a year will be 30k. 2 years 20k. Tesla depreciate at historic rates. Same with all EVs.

[@G82Watts]

@@sidthiru1509 hate for the sake of hating? What did I say that doesn't make sense to u? Ur telling me this is anywhere near as visceral and engaging and fun as driving a car going thru its gears on a track? This is dull asf. Just being real.