2024 Mustang Dark Horse… It’s better than you think

[@gordydexter2615]

My neighbor picked up his Dark Horse last week. It now has 1502 miles on it. We took it to the dyno today. 444, 445, 457 rwhp. That’s less than 11% loss from 500 @ the crank. I ordered a Dark Horse also. I have had 9 passes at the track in this car. The Pirelli Trofeo RS tires are better than Michelin Cup 2R tires and that is exactly what Ford Engineers told us and why they put these on the car instead of the Cup 2R tires. Car weighed at the scales at 3705 lbs. this car has the Handling package. I found out that the Recaro seats are 36 pounds lighter than the premium heated/ventilated pwr seats. Hence the DH would weigh 3741 pounds. Removing the seat, swapping the rims, getting the smaller battery exchanging the hood will bring the weight down to 3660. So that will make a difference overall that will be noticeable. The guys in Wisconsin got 60-0 braking to 98 feet and repeated that even with their heavy DH. My neighbor whose car we were in today so his GT-350R became he blew the engine. So he is liking his DH more because he is not afraid of the Flat Plan Crank. We both plan to boost the cars this time next year. Ford did well with this DH. Stop with all the negativity. The car drives better than the S550 Mach 1. Cheers 💪👍😎🇺🇸

[@mikehughes8023]

Boost the cars? Where? As of now that pcm is locked.

[@gordydexter2615]

@@mikehughes8023: Mike Ford senior management provided the encryption to the ECU/ECM to Ford Performance, Whipple & RTR. So in 12-18 months most people will be able to tune. Ford management realizes that the Mustang owners desire to enhance their cars and that includes tuning. They just desire a piece of that market. So eventually the S650 will be able to do whatever you were able to do with the S550. Right now you can go to Whipple and install their SC 3.0 & their tune. So that’s a start until the encryption is passed on. At RTR you can install Whipple or VMP. So stay positive. That’s the American Way Dude‼️👍💪😎🇺🇸✝️

[@babaoreally8220]

Wow,3700#.That’s about 300# more than my 04 Terminator.Have to say I like the body styling better,tho.

[@Fittednocap]

Did you go with the 10 speed?

[@gordydexter2615]

@@Fittednocap: I did. I already have two manual cars and my wife won’t drive those two cars; a corvette 427 and a Porsche 911. So we are saving the Dark Horse as the commuter car so she can drive it more comfortably in the Washington DC hideous traffic. I wanted the Tremec 6-spd but I caved to have less tension in the home. Cheers 👍💪😎🇺🇸

[@Travisisaac55]

Sorry but the Dark horse ain't no shelby killer the gt350 gapped it by over a bus length lol...

[@9originalpinstripe9]

Gotta see lap times to determine

[@Travisisaac55]

@9originalpinstripe9 well the gt350 has 26 mor hp and is way lighter so I bet it will still beat it on the track. Most of us in America drag race we could care less about lap times lol

[@MercuryMotorsports]

It’s funny to me people that argue that the same car, that’s heavier and makes less power is a better car, wild… 😂

[@Granite_5.2]

The gt350R is 4 times better at cornering and raw breaking than the dark horse. The R has better aero and wider wheels for grip. Give both of them steeda stop the hop package and the shelby becomes 6 times better because now the shelby has no body roll and better feed back and reactivity. Better center of gravity with the wider fenders allows to stay at the cars limit for longer…. Tell me why a dark horse is in the picture?

[@clints8731]

The camaro can still beat the Dark Horse on the track.

[@prawnstar9213]

VERY HAPPY THAT IT COMES IN MANUAL! LONG LIVE MANUAL TRANSMISSION!

[@xmariner]

I bought my first muscle car - let alone sports car - at age 57. By this time in your life, you have become conditioned to be SAFE by being a defensive driver. I also am a country boy that was stuck in ditches as a teen. I thought the most beautiful thing I saw in my life was my red extended cab Ford F-150 FX4 in 2010. I was wrong. I absolutely am in love with this 2024 Dark Horse. It fits like a glove, and more! I'm learning what it means to have a performance vehicle.

[@tri3pleagent]

It's not a Shelby killer in any way.

[@michaelfried3123]

more like YT channel killer with such ridiculous claims...

[@Maniac742]

Manual trans. GG no re.

[@mikemet1744]

I just beat a GT500 at Limerock autocross by 2 seconds in my stock DH Premium 6 speed.

[@tri3pleagent]

@@mikemet1744 so was the car or the driver? I'm thinking it wasn't the car.

[@mikemet1744]

@@tri3pleagent I'm 62 and was never on a track before. Can't speak for the other driver but he was surely younger. The track was 3/4 mile with 11 turns (not great for either car). Just saying, don't underestimate the Dark Horse. Ford made something special. You should embrace it. Have fun.

[@driverdotwav]

I really liked this video dude, pretty solid and concise with the information. Instant subscribe, keep it up!

[@redstang70]

Grest video as dumb as the title is. Its a great car but way WAY overpriced. Id take a used gt350 over this any day of the week.

[@jdemarco1157]

Overpriced decorated GT .

[@whytry-u5b]

Great info and drive...Best DH review I think I've seen.

[@ghostrider7103]

I’m waiting to race a manual stock dark horse with track package against my stock Mach 1 with track package.

[@AlamSantos-h2u]

Can the 10 speed transmission pop ?

[@larryhensch2280]

Good job on your review no one can knock that!

[@marcog6470]

Def not a Shelby, man needs milk 😂

[@michaelfried3123]

and a Snicker's because its obvious he's Hangry!

[@supersnizer]

Do you need the handling pacakage to get the no oversteering?

[@tomdaly1010]

It’s a great vehicle - why so much hate??? Fun to drive - sharp vehicle - sounds amazing - turns heads all day long!!

[@JOHNNYLONNELL58]

Triple 7, any thoughts on the Handling Pack vs Non Handling Pack. I won’t be on the track. Any concerns with the Non Handling Pack ride height or tire configuration?

[@raddgreat01]

Should i buy an old used shelby or a new darkhorse im planing to buy in november?

[@AE-yv9jm]

love the content, any idea how to make it pop in automatic?

[@musclecars92]

That car is not a better performance vehicle than the Shelby GT350.

[@forallyall6143]

we ordered track with automatic because it shifts better on road course, most of these track cars do, they just do , 2 hands on the wheel is just more confident and fun , especially when teaching my 16 year old son how to get around the track, but agree , 99% of people are just getting Dark horse to daily drive and the manual will be more fun, and excellent quality on your video !

[@tomdaly1010]

Just picked up my new DH! Love this vehicle!

[@Fittednocap]

What about a manual makes it more fun?

[@JOHNNYLONNELL58]

How you liking the Dark Horse? 6 speed or manual?

[@forallyall6143]

@@JOHNNYLONNELL58 love it , it’s just a sweet ride , we have not gotten to track yet , we will do that this Summer VIR , but we love it on our country roads, rides like a Cadillac and rails through curves , the brakes are insane!!!! We got automatic as it just makes it more fun to keep two hands on the wheel on track

[@RichGT350r]

I like your review. I’m not sure about “Shelby Killer”!

[@mikehughes8023]

I’m sure that it ain’t!🔥

[@AT4Ferret]

is this the VAPOR Blue or EMBER Blue?

[@Weird3oh]

Is this color vapor blue?

[@The_Mustang_Den]

Nice review. I have both Dark Horse and a 2023 Mach 1. Both are manual transmission and they handle so much different. My DH has track pack and the Mach 1 doesn’t.

[@JOHNNYLONNELL58]

Triple 7, So overall you really like the Dark Horse. I’m just trying to decide if a base Dark Horse with handling package is really worth it or if I should wait a few years.

[@rambo9milli482]

Dark horse just a 5 star GT

[@cali2468]

GT350 killer? 😂😂 yeah, right.

[@jimmymccormick142]

Awesome car l love the new mustang when we get it turnable everyone will be able to see and feel how awesome the car really is especially with boost

[@AndreGomes1987]

why wasnt the mic on u for the ride?? i thought you didnt have one but then youre wearing it at the last shot haha :(

[@GoodKong.BadKong]

Lane keep assist is useful if you're somewhere where you are rubber necking and can't keep your eyes on the road. At least that's what I use it for.

[@saad_ahmed2187]

@triple seven what’s the ride quality like compared to a s197 or s550, and I would like to buy an auto dark horse would that be a good decision considering it will be my daily driver and there’s no canyon or backroads around me to enjoy manual

[@AntilleanConfederation]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Your criteria for enjoying manual is ridiculous 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Just say you are lazy

[@nitro677racing]

Extremely comfortable. Too comfortable for me haha.

[@jl1331]

Have you driven the Mach 1? I feel that the comments you made when mentioning the S550 were more suited to a GT rather than the comparable Mach 1.

[@stevemassarone1470]

Definitely will kill zero shelbys ..350’s are another level all together if you haven’t driven one then you just don’t know

[@VerdeBoy13]

Shelby killer for clickbait. Thats all folks

[@christopherscott8272]

The dark horse is not a shelby killer. Ot doesnt kill the gt350. It most definitely doesnt kill the gt500. It doesnt even kill its little brother, the GT. It's a neet concept that is way over priced.

[@mligma]

Don’t track a car under 500 miles

[@scringe1]

Nonsense. I like the video but, don't let Ford off the hook for shitty quality control. This isn't the 80's when the slapped fox bodys together anymore. Zero excuses for panel gaps on a car like this when you have a modern assembly line with computers.

[@nealryan82]

Thanks for the video

[@sagonzal2000]

Great review.

[@shannonandsheila1403]

Best review on this car

[@SHADOWBLACKs650]

Where exactly have you seen anything about a break-in mileage? Where does it say there's more power after break in ? Or there's any difference in the instrument cluster gauges ? where is this fictitious mileage and those differences published ?.... for example the Corvette, it restricts you I'm going anywhere you shouldn't be during break in, it SPECIFICALLY mentions differences in the tachometer gauge and instrument cluster and performance levels at a certain mileage.... the corvette literally will not let you go into that RPM range during break in and then it increases two or three thousand more after, Mustangs doesn't do that though... Dark Horse is overhyped as a Corvette for example is 2.6 seconds to 60 and a quarter mile at 11.20.... for the same 700000

[@TravelingMatt74]

70 K is too much

[@chris22186]

Enjoy it? Not when I'm paying an arm and a leg for it. It's unacceptable, these manufacturers need to do a better job and we as consumers need to call them out before mediocre fabrication becomes the normal standard.

[@KVIZZZZLE]

good ol Ford quality, panel gaps and swirl marks straight out the factory but they want to end tier pay haha

[@TheJohnmuzquiz]

With all 300whp?

[@MikeYeary]

🤦 You're only off a little, like 130. It's 430 whp.

[@mikehughes8023]

@@MikeYearyyet still it’s a $70K car compared to a ZL1 with 650 hp at the crank.

[@johnnyturbo8460]

Looks like a flop to me.. I'm just not impressed. I was really hoping for more. It definitely doesn't match the release hype .

[@rodolfolarrea8493]

Great video

[@tikbalangmedia]

So just for the sake of clarity as I went out to a ford dealer to confirm the OE tire on the non-handling pack DH. They are PZero PZ4's which are fairly long in the tooth now, and aren't nearly a match to the PS4S or the ExtremeContact Sport 02's. I question why ford went pirelli and I assume the answer probably came to cost. Ford has confirmed they are using michelin's for their mustang challenge with the dark horse r so its kind of a let down that they wouldn't provide the best tire in the segment for the current top trim mustang that is supposed to be the basis for the racing program. Decent review, would've been better if you had shown what was underneath all the covers. I'll officially reserve judgement on the car until after I drive it back to back with my S550 (which is still stock less wheels and tires), but I'm not seeing much worth in trading in. But then again there isn't a purple and I don't think there is another purple in the works for the 7th gen, at least in the near future.

[@nitro677racing]

We knew we’d be making 18s for the car to if the Apex’s didn’t clear the front calipers so we could run interchange sets with the S550 we use for competition. Once the wheels come in, we’re bringing both cars to Sebring to compare laps on the same tire, but it’ll be 305 square on the 18s or 30/65/18 if we run slicks.

[@JerryCecco]

Sorry $73k++ before greedy dealer markup.........pass

[@williamcrook8758]

Ford made some good changes but a little tech heavy. Definitely appeals more younger buyers.

[@michaelwalker8870]

They made the car heavier purposely to counterbalance the drift. i learned that when he first went into the drift, it makes alot of sense

[@nicholasselvaggi54]

Hennessey has a video with a 6 speed Shelby GT350R smoking a 10 Auto Dark Horse in a roll on race. Now a drag race would probably be different, but the Shelby would be the better on the track.

[@Lorenzo1972.]

Brilliant commentary. You should review cars more.

[@lenf3641]

Wonder why OP changed the title of this video. Originally it was "Dark Horse Shelby killer"

[@Maniac742]

Manual transmission option defeats the Shelby outright.

[@junitoss83]

Shelby killer??????

[@ukprince4544]

👇🏽THAT model was never meant to be but pull up to that specified racing Darkhorse R & S … those are💯

[@shaeugfie]

Love that free mod 😂

[@pawg206]

lol 4.6 0-60 for 80k is crazy

[@AnthonyBodea-s6p]

I heard this can go 0-60 in 3.7! An auto Camaro ZL1 can do it in 3.5!

[@lenf3641]

Shelby GT350 killing Dark Horse with its name, never mind the driver's engagement and performance of Shelby GT350.

[@BruceDragon-sf1tr]

It's going to kill a Shelby version though 🤔

[@Davido50]

Home run! These new gen7 Mustangs are better in every way. Kudos to Ford Motor for investing in a new sports car when others are eliminating there offerings soon. There are pseudo sports cars available that are overpriced w/ negligible performance benefits. Can't go wrong w/ a Mustang. My experience anyhow. -NY

[@AntilleanConfederation]

This shit is over priced. A gen 2 coyote s550 can easily outperform this trash.

[@superblack9570]

Yeah this dark horse is an embarrassment. Maybe tuning/mod options will unleash its real potential. All in all I still plan to enjoy it as I've already put in my order. This will be my 3rd Mustang. 1st was a 04 terminator, then an 05 gt and now the dark horse soon

[@poopscooper5038]

It's a nice car for sure. I have a GT350 and love it...but I had higher hopes for the Darkhorse at 70plus k

[@superblack9570]

@poopscooper5038 yeah that 70k price tag is undeserving

[@poopscooper5038]

@superblack9570 what did you pay Sticker? Are there massive markups ? I have nor been paying attention

[@poopscooper5038]

@superblack9570 I bought my 18 Gt350 brand new in December of 2019 for 52k. Thr bottom of the curve. The car I'd love to pick up over Darkhorse is the Mach 1 with the handling package.

[@superblack9570]

@poopscooper5038 yeah the markups are pretty bad, MSRP on the one I ordered was 57k. Markups put me at 66k. I've seen massive markups up to 80k

[@allencox3096]

That’s what you are stating but it’s never going to be a Shelby It’s not only the car but the brand.

[@None-ij7zz]

Wow you just gave me info no ones had said. All you hear is a sales pitch. Which is why I dislike sales people who want to change your mind to buy

[@219tochi3]

Why not just get a Hyundai ioniq 6 n when it comes out? Faster, AWD and not dinosaur tech

[@tkostang]

I’m tired of these outright FALSE TITLES…. Darkhorse is for suckers and doesn’t hold a candle to either Shelby…. Ok ok it beats an s197 Shelby GT-H

[@tsmatthx2]

Auto is better in every way

[@JARROD1_NC]

again I'm sorry.. I can really listen to this review, ur mentioning it, with stats or dyno

[@nelsongreaves3091]

SMSH Panel gaps no Bueno they can keep that shit.

[@calvinsmith2188]

I'll get a Premium GT Fully loaded 10 speed! Ha Ha you say. I bought My Whipple before I bought Car! motivation 😂😂😂

[@deathscythehell7937]

Sorry man the dark gelding isn't a a Shelby killer. You think, you think well I'm here to tell you the truth. My neighbor has a dark gelding, we went on track. He couldn't beat my gt350r, he couldn't even beat my track time. Of course my car is modified, oh that's right you can't do that to the dark gelding. Just to clarify what a gelding is, it's a horse with no balls . Oh I'm sorry if you don't have the skills or ability to drive a s550 chassis. It's up to you as a driver to overcome any short comings of the vehicle. Control of any vehicle is based on the drivers skill and ability. Oh by the way my wife in her Blackwing worked the dark gelding over too. A heavy 4 door luxury sedan totally embarrassed it too. Why do you people insist on trying to turn a piece of 💩 into a diamond.

[@nitro677racing]

Post some onboards, let’s see it.

[@deathscythehell7937]

Oh by the way guys you might want to check out the Hennessy video, gt350r vs dark gelding. Guess who was the winner, it wasn't the gelding. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Shelby killer my ass! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@michaelfried3123]

Silly claims. The Dork Horse isn't even as fast as the previous S550 Mach 1. Put that fat horse on a diet! Stop making crazy claims....this horse ain't no Shelby killer!

[@glitchy_gamer091]

It’s not Shelby killer 😂

[@picklerickle-du8vx]

cool video but why are you sitting so close to the steering wheel like girls do lmao. put that seat back bro!

[@nitro677racing]

It’s funny to get comments about seating position because I’ve gotten it for sitting too close, and also too far, just depends on the car. The Mustangs pedal box I find is usually on the far side. I drive with the wheel telescoped as far in as possible.

[@stang1764]

Shelby killer lol not a chance !

[@JARROD1_NC]

I understand when you say who cares.. its a track car/daily.. but, it's kinds not fair to the consumer or thee ocd and it SHUD be regarded as a one of a kind/project ready car.. the craftsmen ship on that 1 inch panel gap it's by any letter if the law an insult.. its not about who cares, it's about we should care.. unless it's me... Also yeah it's car.. that's costs money idk about Porsche Ferrari, this is the car u advertised, so this right here already is bad review. I YOU are by all mean involved or implicated by the success or failure of the product.. and u minimizing the this issue to comparison (that but all means are too expensive) that's a no go.. I can enjoy a car vw polo but I no that realistically i get what I pay for.

[@rgl9649]

Something already leaking 😂they can have ford still junk cars

[@stephenolenik]

Nice car for sure but my '14 GT500 with original tires and ZERO traction will smoke this car in any situation!!

[@aaronhampton1344]

Lmao 🤣 Shelby killer?!

[@scottsawyer1218]

Not

[@larryvitagliano3405]

Over hyped, these mutangs are junk. I drove two with all bells and whistles $74k+, junk

[@LCculater]

Ya I don’t think so but please be brain washed 😂

[@itscoming9409]

70k heavy pig and who cares about panel gaps and swirl marks? At the end of the day it’s not just a car it’s an absolute dud from ford

[@poopscooper5038]

Shelby Killer? This overpriced dime a dozen 5.0 turd got gapped and humiliated by the GT350.