Here's What I Loved & Hated About the CHEAPEST V8 Ford Mustang After Owning It This Year!

[@freedomisntfree_44]

30 mpg out of the king coyote is just crazy. You got an engine that has gone 7s factory sealed but it can also get the mileage of a Kia soul. Incredible 🤙

[@Digiphex]

Those screens are the low point of the interior.

[@bosse641]

True. Ugly, and such a distraction.

[@isupportthecurrentthing5225]

i disagree

[@marktiny8928]

Definitely, needs a gauge cluster . The center screen is ok

[@Catchingcars]

facts

[@ragnarlothbrok6240]

I have had my DH Premium since April and LOVE the screens. I've owned a 96 GT and an 03 Cobra Terminator. I really enjoy being able to change the gauge clusters and they recently updated it with the 99-01 SVT Cobra cluster [which also happens to be the 03-04 cluster] and love it. The second screen provides PLENTY of visual landscape to finally make everything usable instead of a calculator screen.

[@epa316]

I bought a base GT grabber blue in 2023 for $40k. It was just as the 2024 was coming out, and I hated the interior screens and some of the exterior design, so I got one of the last new S550s. It’s an awesome car, does what I want it to do, which is be a fast, comfortable cruiser.

[@billymania11]

Same. Mine is black with chrome badging. Looks like a million bucks but was relatively cheap. Very happy with it.

[@Moses1973]

Yeah the computer screens on the dash really ruined it for me. But I suppose it's easier to work on.

[@Hazdazos]

If you have videographers who don't know how to drive manual, then I think that should be your next video series: teaching a noob how to drive manual.

[@davidporter7051]

why? it's a dead option and automatics perform better than the average person can use a standard.

[@HerrPoopschitz]

@@davidporter7051car control. Esp in snow/ice. Or send some of the guys to a driving school.

[@deyeatdapoopoo7582]

​@@davidporter7051It's a sports car, but it's not a track car. The driving experience is what matters, not lap time.

[@pokFryRicebich]

Get over yourself. Times have changed

[@OceanicMaestro]

@@deyeatdapoopoo7582 believe it or not you can still have a great experience in an automatic

[@2151abell]

Enjoyed the review Tommy and Case. As always, your straight to the points you want to make, no razzle dazzle or wasted time. I appreciate that in your videos.

[@michaelfsadni6917]

Pretty good assessment. My 5.0 base manual with active exhaust is fast, gets good mileage, has a great trunk and is comfortable

[@Awkwamanwitdastang]

Have the same package. Once a strut bar is added. It hooks on turns giving it a tighter feel very noticeable. Brakes are strong

[@wesalexander2693]

Great review, Tommy, as always! I've always been a Mustang fan, nothing sounds like that 5.0 Coyote V8, what a great engine. But 30 MPG with 486 HP? WOW!

The 5.0 is a real gem, the 486 HP is just amazing. It's one of the very best automotive engines ever.

[@thndr_5468]

The fact this can get 30 mph is actually crazy with a V8 getting better mpg than my own 4 cylinder

[@compwhizpl4177]

Twice in the video you recommend skipping the "big brakes" yet at 12:13, in a non-controlled test admittedly, it looks like the Dark Horse stopped a good 25-40 feet shorter than your base GT w/o the performance brakes. That is not insignificant, and even at more normal speeds a few feet or inches could make the difference in avoiding a collision. The performance brakes are a separate option and seem like a valid choice by way of safety to consider. (Acknowledging that quicker braking may increase the risk of the guy behind you not reacting fast enough...can't have everything.) 😀

[@ahtoomians]

That would be more due to tires. The big brakes would let you keep braking hard without fading as bad but that little brake test they did was mostly due to summer tires on the other car.

[@compwhizpl4177]

@@ahtoomians Makes sense, thanks for the explanation. It seems if you are not planning to race/track your V8 there is little value getting the big brakes.

[@ahtoomians]

@@compwhizpl4177 i would agree with you. i have a '23 gt without the performance pack brakes, and it still has MASSIVE 4 piston front calipers and especially with performance tires they are great on the street.

[@compwhizpl4177]

@@ahtoomians Thanks again. As someone potentially specing out a GT build this year, this is one of the "bubble" options where the $2k just didn't seem worth it unless you had that specific purpose in mind, both for current sticker and future maintenance costs. And if one really wanted larger brakes later for performance or style, there is always aftermarket.

[@powerofme7144]

Does the base come with less Brembos? Seems like I’ve heard there are variants with the Brembos across the different packages. Thanks

[@richardepstein3494]

A couple of comments: hate those two rectangular instrument clusters and love that matte gray plastic trim: much nicer than shiny piano black trim!

[@GothRocker7]

Hey TFL, I wish you kept this Mustang for at least a year or 12,000 miles, just to see if any other issues come up, especially being a new design. I know a lot of the chassis is carry over, but still like to see how it does over a longer period of time. Sorry to see it go, I am Happy Ford still has a great V8 Mustang. It will be a sad day when the Mustang becomes electric or a four cylinder hybrid. Also, Great job to Ford for offering a powerful V8 that can get 30 miles per gallon on a trip, that ten speed really seems to finally be tuned in with the engine well.

[@compwhizpl4177]

I was thinking the same thing, that a "long term test" is probably 10-12k miles and/or 12-18 months of use. Ashame. I am sure there is a cost/benefit calc involved for the KZbin auto channels i.e. the review value of keeping the car around longer versus flipping the asset before it depreciates too much.

[@Bonanzaking]

I can’t wait for an electric one to join the 1971 mustang in my stable of cars.

[@djfrakes1]

Had a 2020 GT with the Performance Pack, MagneRide and 10 speed automatic. I can vouch that it was a legit corner carver in the north GA, NC, TN and VA mountain roads!

[@19hundoc47]

You need to drive a real sports car if you think a Mustang is a corner carver lol. I’ve had PP GTs and they suck in the corners. The only Mustang that can handle with anything is the GT350

[@OceanicMaestro]

@@19hundoc47 You haven't owned anything you're 12 years old.

[@unfairsanic5089]

@@19hundoc47probably your gt dosent have a magneride

[@pawg206]

⁠@@OceanicMaestro 😂 why would he lie? Mustang sucks ass on corners. The only mustang that’s decent is the pp2 but that’s because it have 305 front tires to save it from under steering.

[@OceanicMaestro]

@@pawg206 Another person who doesn't know what he's talking about lmaoo, go learn some things first

[@stephendibari5010]

Other than the 2 wide screen monitors this would be a great cruiser. 18 in. rubber is better so it doesn't kill the ride quality. 19 and 20 in. rims are meant for the track not the street.

[@newedge2001-z5d]

57 now and i still love mustangs too!😁

[@robbyskyline]

Been watching you and your pops for years man just wanna say it reminds me of my dad every time, blessings to ya fam.

[@Bobbybeb]

When I had a '19 gt premium, it was a really good daily driver. Easily high 20mpg on road trips and low 20mpg daily. Once the new car market cools down, you'll find huge discounts on these.

[@catmanscarchannel]

I’ll stick to my 2022 S550 I like that interior way more than the new one, also the plastic greyish shit at the back bumper is ugly as h*ll. By the way I have driven almost 500 miles on a tank and I have the 5.0.

[@jamesgang94591]

Great mileage. A few more MPG than my 6.2 2SS Camaro. But DO NOT waste your money on the exhaust. You'll put it in track mode and never change it. If you don't want to be loud keep your foot off the floor. Bought it on my Camaro and it hasn't been out of track mode since it drove off the lot.

[@Rafael-z3m7k]

Hey Tommy, how about doing a video teaching all the TFL staff how to drive a manual transmission I think that video would be a success. We need to start teaching this young generation so we could still have manual transmission option on sports cars.

[@StormDawntion]

They did do a vid on their classics channel last year with one of their staff members and taught them manual

[@davidporter7051]

it's not even worth the effort. before long we will only be allowed to "operate" self driving cars.

[@OceanicMaestro]

you sound like such a dork lmfaoooo

[@fordplay1469]

The 10 speed just wins races, over and over again.. and yeah the active exhaust is a must!

[@powerofme7144]

I’m torn if I’ll get manual or auto due to that.

[@fordplay1469]

@powerofme7144 honestly I've owned the manual and the auto, the manual mt-82, despite many people online complaining about it gave me over 100,000 miles with zero issues, it's a solid transmission if you can drive a manual, if you drive in traffic a lot or just plan on racing a lot... The auto is a lot faster.. drive both.. make a decision

[@powerofme7144]

@ Much appreciated! My neighbor owns a 22 with the auto and a Whipple. He’s steering me towards auto as well but I don’t plan on SC’ing and Ive driven manuals since 15 years old. It’s gonna take me maybe two test drives each, manual and auto. I don’t plan on any long distance driving but I do have some hip/low back pain the comes up when I do. I dread ever driving through ATL though.

[@jeffortman6395]

$42k isn't cheap

[@brandonjohnson5205]

I remember the good days when you could get a base gt for under 30k

[@Jcruzer70]

2024 post-pandemic, $42k is cheap

[@satalac]

What else can you buy with 485 hp for $42k?

[@calebwany8422]

It's pretty good given the engine and performance; which is like the main reason you get this car

[@87camro]

This country is in a sad state where $42,000 was the cheapest mustang and next year it’s going up another 12 grand it’s no longer going to be the economical affordable fun sports car but something that you’re gonna have to be pretty well off to own.

[@kens8903]

Y’all should start doing limited raffles for the vehicles after you’re done with them.

[@ARentz07]

Lol. They said they were selling it back to the dealer. They need the money.

[@Silverback_GMT410]

7 months already? Where does the time go?

[@timothyweers8054]

I if buying a new car would prefer one without all the extra gadgets. Only features I need are heat and AC, cruise control, large seats, and a real shifter not a dial or tap shifter. Either in a full size sedan or crossover. The extra gadgets are something else to go wrong and a way for them to spy on you one way or another.

[@Iwannadrive]

I, for one, am not tired of looking at this Mustang. I'm still baffled by the two screens in the base models. It's the same information. Doesn't it cost more to make two screen enclosures instead of one?

[@Wild_Bill7407]

I think the best modern looking Mustang was the 2016/2022 plates. Headlights and interior was a lot better looking I think personally

[@DavidWenger-tw4dz]

I have drove both Mustang and Cameros. My 18 SS Is my forever car! And you’re right about ride quality, the Camero is built on GMs Alfa platform. As for cheap interiors and rattles, the Mustang has always been lacking from a quality standpoint. One more fun fact, go to your local Ford dealership and see how many of the mechanics drive Mustangs. Not a whole lot as you will see.

The Mustang has a cheap looking interior compared to a Camaro? That's funny.

[@unfairsanic5089]

Lolz the interior of the mustang is better than interior of the camaro, and ive seen camaros on the side of the road especially here in texas 😂

[@Rskitalll]

It is a green house without tinted windows. 70 degrees outside felt like 150 inside. Ceramic tint made a huge difference

[@wlin111]

got a 21 gt. have only gotten up to 25 mpg on the highway so 30 is impressive. love the car!!!!

[@powerofme7144]

Is it due to different rear end gearing that are available?

[@8lakk5unshine]

You are absolutely right that is is all about the coyote V8 sound! I want a mustang gt even though it isn't really any faster than my 2023 Elantra N with a good tune. You just can't beat the coyote V8 sound! I'll live with the heavier car knowing it sounds so good and with forced induction it is miles above my turbo inline 4. You are wrong about the performance pack, though. You need that if you are actually going to push the car. It is one thing to do a quick pull in a straight line, it is quite another to actually drive the car near it's limit.

[@TimothyBoyle13]

I like that color, too. Not exclusive to the base model GT, but it was a highlight for me.

[@Rskitalll]

I have a base Gt I only added a sway bar and it made a huge difference around corners. Base is louder inside than a premium. Everyday or main car get a premium. 2nd car or weekend car get the base. I can fit camping chairs in the back and full fishing poles.

[@pawg206]

What year?

[@Rskitalll]

2024

[@pawg206]

@@Rskitalll any reason why you got this over the last year s550v

[@Rskitalll]

the interior was the top reason. I was surprised I get so many nice car hell yeah and what year is that every time I drive. I mean every time and it just a base.

[@odinikita4821]

I still find those screens hideous after all this time

[@jeffhaddox2239]

The interior does not bother me , I had an 05 GT. The screens are horrendous! Why can’t they integrate them better? They look like somebody JBWelded them on the dash . One of the reasons , there were a few , I had to let it go after about Ten years, was a bad left knee, and the clutch in traffic was getting to be too much, if it had been an automatic I might not have let it go. But it certainly didn’t get that good of gas mileage 😂

[@fincherelli73]

Agree the 10 speed is fast I love mine

[@Last_Chance.]

There's nothing like that sound of a 93 5.0 with flow master. Very distinct

[@mikek5298]

Flowcrapster ruins the sound of every V8 it infects. Sounds like dumping the exhaust into an empty 55 gallon drum.

[@coleprotocol318]

FlowDisaster? Really? The hollow and cheap sounding exhaust manufacturer? Know what, you're right! There is nothing that sounds quite like flowdumpster. Cars with that brand exhaust are always very distinct, I can always accurately pick them out when I hear a muscle car that sounds like distinct trash!

[@Platos-Den]

What exhaust system do you recommend?

[@gigi9467]

I boght a base mustang v8 in 2017 for 33k msrp. 45k is ridiculous!!! Not worrh it

[@DrZoomer]

The interior is such a huge downgrade from the S550 generation in my opinion. Looks and feels cheap and low quality. Even something as simple as the new “button” cluster at the bottom of the center stack replacing the metal switches has a huge impact on the feel

[@Mr_Nweke]

The only option I got on my Mustang is the active exhaust. I love my Mustang.

[@derrickschultz6871]

I want this car. The blue, the steering wheel, that motor. Im sold. I will put up with the screens, with minimal protest.

[@19hundoc47]

Geez keep crying about screens. You probably type on your phone screen all day, get over it clown

I agree, people are just looking for something to hate. The screens are fine especially driving at night.

[@matsmith5937]

Anything about the belt driven oil pump?

[@NudaMan]

Dumbest design lol

[@joeh2085]

That is only on the F150 motors. The mustang 5.0 is still gear driven, including this latest gen 2024.

What I hate is you didn't order the performance axel ratio on a Mustang GT.

[@Silverback_GMT410]

I haven’t known anyone who’s ever gotten over 300 miles of range. That’s nuts!

[@garyeckler2425]

We love our 2022 Mustang. We purchased it with the four cylinder eco-boost, but as a convertible. It's a great summer driving enjoyment. BTW.... The 2022 dashboard is a lot better looking!

[@calebwany8422]

Is it lazy?

[@chriscon8463]

Nice review on a great car! That’s outstanding mpg.

[@ac-888]

43 is such a steal!

[@CDs_YouTube_]

Saved 15k, Probably could get some custom interior 💩 installed for 8K - 10k. 😖 The interior was kinda struggling.

[@odinikita4821]

Who the heck in Ford thought that those two screens or even the one screen will be the way to go in the s650

[@A.ChristopherJohnson]

Adding the Active Exhaust isn't the cheapest bro !!

[@Arexodius]

I cannot understand how, in this day and age, heated seats are even considered a "luxury" item in the US... It's absolutely unfathomable to me how you can sell *_any_* vehicle without heated seats! That's basically like selling a vehicle without windshield wipers because it never rains where it's sold! Heated seats belong to the most basic of basic features of cars since the 80's! It's not a luxury, it's an essential basic function!

[@TevinWeatherspoon]

Heartbroken to see the Stang go away

[@unfairsanic5089]

10:14 nice try, still getting the performance pack if im getting a mustang

[@aaronbarkus6458]

I feel you tommy, 25 and still waiting for my voice drop 😂

[@idesofmarch3744]

New 2025 mustang gt and full coverage insurance makes this car unobtainable for 98% of the people who would like to own this type of vehicle. Pass.3

[@sinajetta1746]

What about a dark horse 10 spd vs this... drag race that before you guys get rid of it.

[@SirDeathstroke]

“Long term review” bro it’s been 7 months that’s not a long time for a car

[@migueldelaguardia]

42k otd or 42k plus tax and fees?

[@frankdeboer1347]

I guess I could save some money and get the base Ecoboost and still beat 90 % of the earlier V8 Mustangs ever built.

[@jeffsiegel4879]

30+MPG on the highway. What about around town? That's where I do 85% of my driving!

[@ahtoomians]

More like 18-20. Less if you drive very aggressively. Idling kills it

[@jeffsiegel4879]

@@ahtoomians With that sound, who couldn't hold the gears?

[@crishernandez6952]

Why 87 octane?

[@CRINGE-MEISTER]

30 MPG is very unrealistic. 21-23 is what you should expect with daily driving the GT, and if you happen to live in a very flat area you could realistically see upwards of 25.

[@sethoquinn6172]

21-23 has been my experience so far in my S650. It’s never been above 23.

[@diddlybow3891]

85 octane at $3.49? Is that even gas? So glad I live here in Georgia..

[@19hundoc47]

Hot humid flat boring Georgia. Ya stay there don’t come here

[@ARentz07]

​@19hundoc47 the northern part of Georgia has some mountains and great driving roads.

[@HerrPoopschitz]

@@ARentz07’mountains’🤣

[@mowcowbell]

You don't need higher octane at elevation. You see 85 octane commonly in the Rocky Mountains and high plains.

[@diddlybow3891]

@@mowcowbell I had no idea.. I grew up in California, and I’ve lived in Texas, Nevada, and now Georgia, and I’ve never seen 85 octane before. Interesting how the elevation affects things. 👍🏼

[@AB-coyote]

Rated power is on 93. Not 87

[@steveb5382]

Seriously, the dash screens suck. And a purchase stopper.

[@brandonjohnson5205]

I felt the same at first but they actually do look pretty cool while they are on and lit up and makes the s550 look slightly outdated

[@renemorris3167]

What’s so bad about the screens?

[@steveb5382]

@@renemorris3167 it takes away from the heritage of the Mustang, not only that looks meticulous.

[@NameSpaceVoid]

@@renemorris3167probably won’t age well and they have so many critical features that if they break your car is now bricked until it’s fixed. But really this isn’t new, I got the s550 because of the price and the buttons only to find out that some things can only be done in the screen as well 🤷‍♂️

[@thebagnechannel3183]

TFL could get more good content if they added a supercharger to this Mustang. Particularly if they detailed the installation and costs, then ran it up against more expensive vehicles. I will miss it.

[@michaelsheedy]

If you are trying to sell it, probably not a good idea to talk about drag racing it incessantly. And a $42,000 GT is not going to have a premium interior when the Average price of a new vehicle is close to $50,000.

[@Bum_Hip]

One of the first thing he mentioned is what to expect from the interior at this price point. Did you watch the video, or just comment?

[@michaelsheedy]

@@Bum_Hip So why did the reviewer mention the "cheap" interior after stating they got the base GT? And he went on and on about the hard plastic.

[@Bum_Hip]

@@michaelsheedy bro, just do yourself a favor and delete your original comment. Have some self respect.

[@AB-coyote]

@@Bum_Hiporiginal commenter is on point. Tommy down plays the interior way too much. Honestly he doesn’t know that much about the car.

[@justinstiff5641]

So you lost 5,000 plus the taxes

[@sammyjammy6647]

So is that good or bad?

@@sammyjammy6647 In general, you loose 20% value driving a car off the lot so 5K after almost a year of use is pretty good.

[@calebwany8422]

Stop it with the poverty mindset

[@antonioprieto9824]

Wow a 500bhp mustang beats a corolla oh that's amazing

[@AbdulRahim-cu7y]

Hey! Do you handle editing in-house or remotely? I'm an editor and would love to join, if you’re interested.

[@garysmith4538]

What about maintenance

[@eDuCincoCinco]

It’s hilarious how reviewers complain about the interior, but at the same time complain about price tag, you get the cheap you get cheap buddy common sense

[@dtw1622]

How is 47k msrp cheap?? 😂😂

[@harrisonmcdowall2794]

$47k isn't cheap. And it shouldn't have a cheap interior.

[@srsg-wy8tr]

They complain because the cheap interior on a “cheap” car is is not the same. If the mustang was $25k, the cheap interior would be fine. But $47k and you get the cheap interior. That is what the complaint is about

[@Franz-vg6hy]

Goodbye, I am gonna miss you Pony 😊

[@kevincamilleri1695]

Bs mine gets 17 1/2 and I drive very conservatively

[@MilushevGeorgi]

87 octane in the coyote retracts the timing, it has knock sensors, ask Char GPT, never use 87, never

[@626playboy1]

WHAT PERFORMANCE PACKAGE IS THIS AND HOW DO YOU GET THE SPLIT SCREEN???...

[@MrHighlyEvolved]

The base (aka non-premium) cars all have the split screens. The "premium" cars have the single screen.

[@626playboy1]

@@MrHighlyEvolved THANKS I APPRECIATE IT

[@michaelnewman1151]

Loving my Dark Horse!

[@billymania11]

Yeah, the tablet screens are awful but the overall automobile is fantastic. It's hard to top the Mustang.

[@ronmexico5908]

Can’t stand the stick on tablet ip

[@StuttaBoxx]

Those screens really are atrocious

[@stevekniess3665]

Tommy did you do a review of the rental car you had in Hawaii? Lol

[@matthewm3912]

30mp wth a 5.0 V8? yea, forget EVs.

[@seanramey63]

I got claustrophobic PTSD when he got in the back seat

FYI: You drive from the front seat.

At 12:25 you were talking about price. The first new vehicle I bought was a '74 Ford Courier in '75. It cost $3,300. For a two year loan at $104 a month. Times were better back then. 🤑🤔 Now 🤔🤢🤮😭

[@brian5o]

The exterior of this generation of Mustang is by far the worst in Mustang’s history. This car should have been Mustang’s high water mark. It is likely to be the very last gasoline-powered Mustang, the last Mustang with an available manual transmission, truly the end of an era and Ford phoned its design in. I will never forgive them for that. I’ve loved Mustangs since I was a kid, have owned a 65 coupe with a 289, a 68 coupe with a 289 and an 88 X-Florida Highway Patrol LX 5.0 SSP and I have absolutely 0 interest in owning the current Mustang.

[@rdramos13]

Who the heck are talking too that thinks a Mustang is the size of a GR86??? Mustangs and Camaros are everywhere, so people know what size they are. Mustangs have never been that small, except for maybe the Mustang II. You're audience here are car people, and know they're cars. So if you're talking about non car people, they wouldn't know what a GR86 is anyway.

[@harbor1214]

The biggest issue with this car is that it didn't really improve on the performance numbers or handling from the 550. The digital dash is fun but is that really worth the upgrade if you have a S550? I like it but still prefer my gen 6 camaro with tremec/ head up display but to each their own. Thankful Ford didn't kill the Mustang like Chevy did ;(

[@dmegahan]

So buy a mustang in a cold state in the winter.

[@dewdew34]

I can't afford it, i just got married ... get used to that.

[@jesseseymour4011]

So same price as Lexus RCF (5.0 V8). Doesn't even compare. Ill take the Lexus every time.

[@allanbieger7523]

Excuse yourself from this discussion, This is about Camaro and Mustang. who cares what you drive?

[@jesseseymour4011]

@@allanbieger7523 i don't drive an RCF. I would chose one over a mustang or camero though. I like those cars, they just don't hold up as well.

[@bluemoon8498]

stop with the archive, g wiz man

[@j.a.g.8689]

Its so sad seeing all these people in the comments saying the auto is better because its faster. The death of the drivers car must be studied. Nobody lives on track or street races their car everyday, so being the fastest does not matter. Only if you care about being able to say your 0-60 time is this. Its about the driving experience, the base gt auto feels so soulless. Its about the driving experience, how connected you are to the vehicle.

[@Illankid]

So, they made it comfy and floaty. Now if only Lincoln would make a version of this

[@HerrPoopschitz]

Maybe next gen we’ll get a mark 9 w/ a turbo 6 and awd. No plans for this chassis.

[@magneto8002]

The interior is terrible.

[@panchoortega100]

Long term review doesn’t mean 7 month old! 😒😒

[@greentruth89]

I would rather buy the s197 to me thats a mustang

[@tonyn3227]

Way overpriced at $43k, for this ugliest interior

[@stevebower5307]

Shouldn’t it be a job requirement at TFL to know how to drive a stick? It’s not that difficult to learn.

[@medistudio4390]

you have a great manly voice man definitely adult

[@briancorreia2923]

If you’re saying fun is more important than the extra performance parts, that sounds like the perfect argument for the manual transmission. The money you save on skipping the automatic would pay for the, just for fun, switchable exhaust.