2024 Newly discovered Chopin Waltz （Lang Lang）

[@kareyreuben3869]

Thank you for letting us hear and see the music, that was very pretty.

[@elwachus]

For those who say this is fake... How can you prove it? The structure itself of the Waltz is very well organized, in the old fashioned style of Chopin... You'll realize it... If you play piano or sightread... At all

[@eboone]

can you prove it isn't fake?

[@elwachus]

@eboone Ofc. Chopin always uses pedal point in his chords, and it's present right there. That specific pedal point in the bass, that carries the subtle shift in the progressions. The reason he does this is to preserve the atmosphere... He is very nitpicky about his details. Very calculating about how things should play out. Also, I see some Hummel structure in some passages, something that resembles his Piano Sonatas or his Rondos.

[@elwachus]

@@eboone Answer. What reasoning do you have to prove that this isn't fake?

[@berhanpalabyk9368]

@@elwachus They literally did the analysis of the paper it was written on, compared the writing to Chopins handwriting and so on... And do you think someone as famous as Lang Lang would risk damaging his reputation playing this

[@tokyodo555]

You don't even know the Chopin music, do you? If you are truly familiar with all those works composed by Chopin, you can easily tell.

[@zykonxt]

Sounds pretty authentic to me. Likely an early piece of juvenilia it has the general style, harmonies, part writing, temperament, elegance, keyboard textures of his early compositions.

[@sassthedrummer]

I wonder how many world renowned pianists were fighting to be the first to record this lost piece.

[@erezsolomon3838]

And then the overrated Lang Lang won. He did a good job though, I'll give him that

[@samueltaylor9935]

@@erezsolomon3838he’s really good regardless of how you feel about him lol

[@thepianocornertpc]

Not renowned pianists..but mediocre pianists? Yes! Plenty.

[@butter5014]

@@erezsolomon3838 Lang Lang is not overrated, he is a genius pianist of the new age. Although I don't like most of his Chopin, including this piece. He really gets Mozart, though

[@erezsolomon3838]

@@butter5014 he is good, but not one of the greats(!)

[@mrbrianmccarthy]

It's just a fragment---something he started but didint finish. Still cool to hear though.

[@michaeldd8948]

To anyone who says this doesn't feel real: go listen to his sonata 2 finale, prelude no.2, 14 and 18, polonaise op.44. I'd go as far as to say that most of Chopin's works don't sound like the "usual" Chopin

[@JoeLinux2000]

He does not quote himself.

[@Vasilis1987]

Amazing sir. Just amazing

[@MiScusi69]

OMG YES I LOVE THIS PIECE

[@Saladmayo]

This ends waaay too soon !

[@ValkyRiver]

Just uploaded my version of this waltz today… well… I’m just messing around.

[@tomaszlerski7517]

Głos Chopina zza światów po 160 latach od śmierci.

[@mariap3472]

Fascynujace i piekne...

[@justinlane9371]

Chopin 100%

[@VideoVoyager.]

Вальс о человеческой жизни: счастливые периоды сменяют "тучи" и т.д.

[@lisapeace5022]

I love Chopin

[@Coffebucks]

This is So Cool ❤

[@n00i35]

Dziękuję 🙏 Piękne ❤

[@Myszowaz321]

To everyone saying thats fake: youve clearly never listened to Chopin.

[@KrwiomoczBogurodzicy]

Have you heard of AI?

[@skrjabe_]

@@KrwiomoczBogurodzicywhy would it be AI if there’s actual evidence of a written score, CLEARLY similar to chopins handwriting when you compare it to his other original written scores.

[@rowanjones1435]

there's one guy who said it calm down

[@Myszowaz321]

@@KrwiomoczBogurodzicy how would it be Ai if they found it, in like physical way. Its written on real paper and was found by a real person so how could it be AI lmao

[@eboone]

sure, it sounds like chopin, but that clearly isn't proof

[@Елена-ъ6ь4й]

I believe, it' s not the fake. But, it can not be short so much, this is the scetch, the draft. I think so.

[@白玉堂-o9h]

yep, sounds like a draft

[@JohnJosephTed2656]

I heard that the original sheet was all sketch, with many correction on it.

[@ausseamore8386]

At this moment in time why bother much about its origins? On its very own it's a lovely short Waltz and that is incontrovertible fact. Be thankful it has been beautifully expressed by the pianist. 👍👍👍👍👍👍 Funny how some will NOT to recognize beauty just because it is not "branded", not some established name author 🤣🤣🤣🤣 This same foolishness is repeated is found within the fashion and fine arts world

[@tea-and-guitars]

It sounds like chopin but more a mesh of ideas, like not a put together piece. Seems like a draft of sorts. But still very cool

[@ValseMelancolique]

There is clearly a measure of rest in the manuscript at measure 7/8- Guys please check out my completion of the waltz. Both sheet-music videos online both have small errors (rather negligible not saying things are right or wrong, instead an offering of another interpretation) Thanks!

[@gabrielhenschen9665]

It's very clearly not a pause but a repeat bar!

[@ValseMelancolique]

@@gabrielhenschen9665 ahh - Somebody else mentioned its a repeat to me as well - All I have seen are blurry thumbnails

[@EZEKIELAIA]

Yeeeah...I can hear why he have up on that!!!😂😂😂😂😂

[@Kjt853]

I can’t help but wonder, if this was indeed written by Chopin, if it was a sort of “sketch” that he planned to expand at a later time.

[@c.t.thompson490]

This song sounds great. I hope to make great music like this one day. I just started piano, but I have composed a song and put it on youtube. It's called "Two Moons Apart." Hope someone has time to listen and I also hope it sounds good to someone out there :)

[@andre.vaz.pereira]

Bar 22 ir wrong in the left hand. The 3rd beat is a rest in the left hand. The bass D only lasts for 2 beats and the B one beat. 3rd beat is a rest.

[@ValkyRiver]

Just uploaded my version of this waltz today… well… I’m just messing around.

[@JohnJosephTed2656]

Absolute banger! I will tell my kids that I remember when Chopin dropped this song

[@antoniocucumazzo387]

Mix fake Chopin - Rachmaninoff

[@AntonelloWAM]

only 20 bars ...? there must be more I would guess at least 60 more bars... what do you think ?

[@whatalovelyusername]

I think it’s just a sketch, an unfinished work. Dramatic, elegant, but it’s only the beginning of a waltz, almost a note on a napkin. It’s a bit surprising that it was even signed - maybe it was a small gift for someone?

[@Короткоіясно-ь8р]

@@whatalovelyusernameit’s not a beginning- it’s a middle of a waltz.

[@ghamoz]

2lang il solito cane

[@Carlosmltr]

Are they testing us by training AIs on some specific composers and then finally reviewing in the end of year how they fooled everyone?

[@warxveins]

what's the name of the piece

[@efgasgames]

Waltz in a minor

[@warxveins]

​@@efgasgamesno cuz there's another waltz in a minor, there must be a op and no

[@toriisutherland]

​@@warxveinsAre you trolling? It was just discovered there is no opus or number. It's just a valse in A minor from a lost manuscript.

[@tbrws]

​​@@warxveinsit got discovered recently, it's not categorised yet

[@ahanova33]

Lang Lang did this for the NY Times, it was recently discovered. The article said, "...recently learned that an unknown waltz by the eminent composer Chopin, written nearly 200 years ago, had been discovered in the vault of the Morgan Library & Museum in New York. It was unearthed in a collection of memorabilia, alongside postcards signed by Picasso and letters from Brahms and Tchaikovsky."

[@valentinvanderkelen6051]

I really hope it is not artificial intelligence.

[@headcrashesdead]

What the hell does AI have to do with this? The composition was discovered and authenticated. What you're actually hearing on these videos might be played using AI, but the original source material is very real.

[@MusicalEssence]

@@headcrashesdeadnah this audio is played by lang lang! :)

[@alepiano8685]

Paranoid.

[@toothlesstoe]

Unfortunately, it's nothing remarkable.

[@白玉堂-o9h]

The Mozart one does, but this doesn't sounds like chopin to me for some reason,

[@orenji_nini9482]

Then you clearly haven't listened to anything from Chopin

[@白玉堂-o9h]

@@orenji_nini9482 calm down bro, it just sounds unfinished and too short in length to me and that's it, no one is devaluing chopin but you are being very rude disrespecting me.

[@orenji_nini9482]

@@白玉堂-o9h how the hell am I disrespecting you??? Lmao I said something in the calmest way possible. Trust me pal, if I wanted to disrespect you I would have done it

[@白玉堂-o9h]

@@orenji_nini9482 you don' t think you've disrespected me by your reply only means that you have a low moral standard on yourself. Try saying something like "then you clearly haven't finished highschool" when your family or friend is trying to make a point.

[@orenji_nini9482]

@@白玉堂-o9h broooo... Profesional victim right here 💀💀💀💀

[@user-x2u2g3h3]

I understand why he did not complete this work. This is a very mediocre work. even I find 'Le regret, Op.332' by Charles Mayer (once attributed to Chopin) superior to this

[@jakubjasinski9821]

I disagree - Mayer's piece has a kind of soppy sentimentality in it, completely alien to Chopin. This in turn is more bold and inventive harmonically

[@ObiektywnyRecenzent]

Mediocre? Why? Great masterpieces are not only about the technical difficulty, but also about the emotions which they evoke in the audience. This waltz does evoke strong emotions in me - and I hope I am not alone in that. Moreover, there is some similarity to Moniuszko's (another Polish Master of Romanticism, the inventor of the so-called "National Style" in Polish opera) waltzes. This is understandable because both Chopin and Moniuszko were inspired by folclore - especially by the mazurkas (in Polish: mazurki, Singular mazurek) - and the mazurka-like spirit is indeed present in this piece.

[@syzygy2464]

anyone saying this is fake does not understand Chopin's works

[@robertcocovinis5269]

Despite the evidence of the manuscript etc it doesn't look or sound authentic to me, unfortunately.

[@grzegorzskalski5522]

Mayby Lang Lang doesn't sound like Chopin:-)

[@PKLevel99]

YOURE BORING AF!!!!!!

[@sillytu6639]

It actually sounds a lot like early chopin

[@d_rivadeneyra]

Idk, it sounds very chopinesque to me

[@EggMCMUFFIN-e4l]

You never seen a Chopin manuscript?

[@webtarget1020]

fake

[@hanellipsis]

It's likely authentic! It was found at the Morgan Library & Museum, verified by experts, and reported by the New York Times.

[@warxveins]

you must feel special

[@sweetfangs1979]

nope. I have seen a picture of the manuscript.

[@warxveins]

0 research, just say it's fake, it always works

[@aled.mishlyn]

chopin never existed of course it's fake