2024 RockShox SID and SID SL Ultimate Fork Quick Check, 29", 44mm Offset

[@GokkunGuru]

Great comparison. I’m running SID SL Ultimate on my XC. That’s the one with the Race Day damper. Love it. It’s light and works well.

[@LoveMTB]

Yeah no problems with those or the Select that we've been using.

[@mikicastan]

How is it in long term? Is it reliable?

[@varvlz]

I changed my sid 32 sl with problems with the lockout, to a 34 sc, the sid was incredibly soft on small bumps and with the 34 sc I am not happy from the beginning, I notice the over-damped fork and poor initial sensitivity, although on certain occasions 34 sc changes during the ride and feels really good, I'm not sure if the problem is in the fit4, but if the problem with the cartridge and bushings was solved I think these new sids could be a better option to find that sensitivity that I don't get in the fox.

[@PElfama]

i just installed one of the 110mm SID SLs on my mtb no. 4, i like the light weight and firm yet smooth dampering. i have 4 hardtail mtbs, one with Fox Factory 21 and one with DT Swiss F232 one, my personal preference is DT Swiss F232 one as it's got soft dampering, moderate firmness plus light weight.

[@LoveMTB]

Thanks for sharing!

[@donnovicki9771]

Great review. Always look forward to an in depth review that you do. Best presenter on Y/T. Cheers

[@LoveMTB]

Thank you Don🤜

[@aneczka2114]

Thank sram for doing forks in another great color!

[@LoveMTB]

It is actually a nice color😊

[@glennmorgan8691]

Thanks for another great review!!! I always wished that fox would use the sag gradient markers like rockshoks do,sad to see rockshoks moving away from this.They both look like nice forks though.Cheers!!!!

[@LoveMTB]

Yeah right? Cost savings maybe? Who knows. Thanks Glenn

[@gergo-hajdu]

At 2:28, I have a question about the opening and closing knob (2P version), if I buy this version (2024) SID SL Ultimate Race Day 2 damper and i want a handlebar remote control version, do I have to replace the entire Race Day 2 damper?!

[@LoveMTB]

From knob to remote? Yes

[@gergo-hajdu]

@@LoveMTB thank you, crazy with these forks, in Europe only the 2P button version is available in all stores, I don't even know if the remote control version will be available....nice move from RS!

[@MTBfixHQ]

I wonder what fox will bring to the table once they release a new 34 stepcast, I ride the 2022 version and its blown me away, much better then the 2021 pike ultimate I replaced tbh. The new SID 35 forks seem pretty much the same as before but they fixed the bushing problem which is great, I also like the look of the wider stanchions but I don't know if its just me but I hate the look of the new crown machining, maybe it looks better in real life

[@LoveMTB]

Crown doesn't look that bad but it's accetuated by the blue color which is awesome but I would buy the black 🙂 Fox eems to be working on a reverse crown fork for XC from the few spy shots I've seen this summer. I don't know wbout that, I usually don't like reverse crown forks. At all.

[@MTBfixHQ]

@@LoveMTB OMG I hope its not true! Reverse crown forks as so fugly lol

[@LoveMTB]

Time will tell...@@MTBfixHQ

[@xoslic]

Great review ! Interestingly my 2024 SID Ultimate 3P Remote included a hard screw-on mudguard, not a plastic one. No sag scale though. I think I have a crush on that Blue Crush paintjob. 💙

[@LoveMTB]

😆 I like that color also. Maybe they change the mudguard now? I like the hard one better BTW

[@elbiemetoo]

I’m running 2.35 Maxxis tires with plenty of clearance on the SC gen 2.0

[@quinncolby]

Best review so far!

[@XCRiders]

After the bushing issues on the last model I switched to Fox step cast

[@LoveMTB]

Not all of them had issues we've been using the Select for 2 years now, zero issues. But te 34SC is a solid choice for sure!

[@phenofinder9145]

Been exclusively on sids since 2001. I love every sid edition

[@LoveMTB]

🤓

[@Lightpat]

Hello, I asked myself the same question for my future Supercaliber Gen 2 which will be equipped with the SID SL. I wrote to Sram support and they wrote me this: "The SID SL Ultimate (D1) has a maximum tire width of 60 mm, which corresponds to about a 2.3" tire. It will be best to mount the new tires on your Kovee wheels, then measure the setup once installed in the fork to make sure the necessary clearance is available. Unfortunately, I have no way of confirming clearance. I apologize for not being able to give you an accurate answer. Let me know if you have any Further questions SRAM Rider" support

[@LoveMTB]

Thankk you for sharing!

[@elbiemetoo]

My new Trek Supercaliber gen 2 came with the new Sid sl. Works great. Better than the new Fox sc 34 and very easy setup. Mine has remote lockout which greatly increases the functionality when doing any smooth climbing. Great video. Thanks

[@LoveMTB]

Thanks for the info! And enjoy that rocket of a race bike🤘

[@nimbuscycles2354]

How does it work better?

[@elbiemetoo]

@@nimbuscycles2354 all I had to do was set the sag , take it to a rough trail and adjust the rebound for my style of trail riding. Thereafter, I check the shock pressure about every 3 rides. That’s it. Easy peasy. I am getting the full 110 mm of travel on big drops. Couldn’t be happier.

[@nimbuscycles2354]

@@elbiemetoo Sounds simple. Did you have trouble with a new fox sc 34? What were the problems?

[@elbiemetoo]

@@nimbuscycles2354 no problems. But after a lot of fussing around with the sag, rebound, and air volume spacers , I just couldn’t get it in that spot where I could use the full travel (120mm) without it being too mushy for anything except rough terrain. It would have been fine until I got this rock shock ultimate which fit that sweet spot with minimal fuss. This is all personal preference I’m sure.

[@NM4500]

Love the outtakes

[@philhunt1442]

currently debating going with the older Sid sl for cost saving and wondering if it will be a noticeable difference compared to the newer sl?

[@LoveMTB]

I would not go for that one...search for issues with bushings on theose forks, it's all over the forums.

[@philhunt1442]

@@LoveMTB Dang, even the newer 2023 SL ultimate?

[@adventureforlife2147]

Thanks for sharing this in-depth look. Have you seen the 2024 Sid Select yet? I'm trying to set up a bikepacking rig with a 120mm fork. I want a fork that will last 1000's of km without servicing, and is durable. Any thoughts on Ultimate vs Select?

[@LoveMTB]

Not yet unfortunately! But we've bbeen really happy with the previous gen Select, and if I was to go for the lighter RS it would be this new Ultimate / RaceDay2 damper and avoid the previous gen Ultimate.

[@marcoshenrique6363]

Vídeo objetivo e bastante didático, e o melhor: legendas em portuguese.🎉

[@fabianotajiri8811]

hi! great work and infos! a doubt in sid 35mm comparing older version... is use same lower or is a different dimensions? I know the bushing spacing are differente, but the lower legs are the same?

[@LoveMTB]

They're not the same, more sculpted etc. Don't know if they differe internally in any way but they are definitely not the old lowers.

[@fabianotajiri8811]

@@LoveMTB The spacer between The stanchions leg is the same of older? Please.. If you do, do you can measure these? Thanks

[@LoveMTB]

@@fabianotajiri8811 it’s the same

[@TheAntoine191]

So i have with good working 2021 120mm with no play. I have some damper leaks but it's manageable. I love my 35. Is the new one better in your opinion ?

[@LoveMTB]

We have the old one, Select model and worked ok, bushings too tight, ok overall. New one has improved on the overlap should not have issues with bushings play, same design of the damper so same leaks can occur...

[@TheAntoine191]

@@LoveMTB The damper has been updated to "charger race day V2" so i think they solved the leak issues, i hope so anyway :S

[@ovidiustoica6342]

👍 Hola. Siempre inspirando . Eres de verda un tio q da ilusion a todo. Comentario de un profesional. Me inspiraste mucho. 🏆.

[@LoveMTB]

¡Gracias! Y encantado de ayudar🤘

[@jiajianhou426]

I accidentally ordered the from with remote. But I don’t want the remote, can you remove the remote assembly on the fork? And I want that knob you have.

[@LoveMTB]

Unfortunately you have to replace the damper with thw 2P/ 3P no remote

[@marksandoval5361]

I hope this new fork solves the bushing play problem of the the previous generation 120mm Sid 35. Nearly every review of a bike with a Sid had to have the fork serviced because of bushing play. There were bikes that I might have bought, like the Transition Spur, but I hesitated because the bike came with a Sid. By the way, the Spur now comes with a Fox 34.

[@LoveMTB]

How would we know?🙄

[@kyestevenson7076]

What wheel rim size fits like the hub or axle whatever bought the fork and can’t find rims to fit

[@eddyfusely503]

Great review…the different forks get me so confused…

[@phenofinder9145]

There is a method to the madness just keep researching

[@LoveMTB]

Options, more options please🙂

[@wojtek606]

Yeah me too! Can you help me? I want to have a light bike, but the new Debon Air+ makes me wonder. Which version will be better for Supercaliber gen 2 (110 mm)? I am 180cm/76kg and I run marathon and XC as an amateur.

[@marekzmazur2077]

I just replaced the lowers on my Sid because of bushing play. 😖 I hope they last.

[@LoveMTB]

Man oh man....😖

[@xoslic]

Do you find the Lock postion to be as rock-solid ass marketed? Mine SID 2024 3pos remote is far from being solid , even softer than Fox SC FIT4 lockout. I tested another brand new very same fork and it is still not fully locked. Very strange. C1 forks are much solid in Lock pos.

[@LoveMTB]

I think they are like that by design though…

[@xoslic]

@@LoveMTB last weekend I spoke to a SRAM mechanic at UCI XC World Cup . Both generations of Race Day dampers are supposed to be the same as far as the lockout firmness is concerned. So why there're so many SID 2024 forks with such a soft lockout? I'm currently in contact with SRAM service center technician trying to point the exact cause.

[@LoveMTB]

@@xoslic sounds like you know more about this than I do. What I do know is to stay away and I have Fox 34 SC on all my XC bikes

[@nicholkid]

Beautiful fork. Love the color. Grail fork for me.

[@LoveMTB]

It looks awesome indeed

[@samd6405]

⁠​​⁠@LoveMTB is that the gloss blue? Online photos show it to be much lighter in color. Have you done a comparison video yet to the Fox 34SC?

[@LoveMTB]

I have not, and the lighter blue was the previous generation fork🤓

[@samd6405]

@@LoveMTB that’s what I was starting to piece together. That’s a shame…really liked the old school SID blue.

[@LoveMTB]

@@samd6405 This looks better in my opinion more premium

[@samd6405]

@@LoveMTB maybe…still think the lighter blue is the ‘original’ SID color from the ‘90s. But that’s just me…would love to hear your opinion between the Fox/RS…maybe a future video?

[@LoveMTB]

@@samd6405 yeah can’t say I have any recollection of the 90s SID. Wasn’t even biking seriously back then. Due to the internal build of their damper I don’t think I’ll actually buy one of these new SIDs to use even though we do need an XC fork. But maybe I’ll get the chance to ride one. You folks will know if that happens

[@ridedirtymtb9938]

How do you feel about the extra pedal setting vs the remote lockout open and firm?

[@LoveMTB]

We use the pedal damper setting in the Fox forks all the time so having it in RC is a welcome addition to

[@ridedirtymtb9938]

@@LoveMTB I’m so used to using a lock out but I can’t seem to find a good place with it. If I add more are it looses that small bump. If I use more tokens it becomes to harsh off the top maybe I’ll try one of these sid’s

[@silver_c1oud]

i honestly Love the Color of the Blue Sids. but, those bushing issues discourages me from buying the New Sids

[@LoveMTB]

They should be fixed! Ok sorry more bushing overlap was presented as a feature😊

[@ridedirtymtb9938]

How do you like this fork compared to the stepcast

[@LoveMTB]

@@ridedirtymtb9938 we do not ride the SID anymore all our XC forks are the Fox SC 34

[@adammoonface]

I'd love to build a light weight modern geo steel or Ti hardtail with the SID ultimate 120mm fork. My bank balance won't let me though....

[@LoveMTB]

THAT would be sweet!

[@wojtek606]

At the World Cup, competitors ride on Sid SL, Sid 35mm, RockShox Flight Attendant. Blow my mind 😁

[@LoveMTB]

Yupl lots of Flight Attendant front and rear suspension

[@mikelafferty5253]

Oh nice, Im close to the Saugua, got a link to buy?

[@mikelafferty5253]

founs it, thx

[@bramozchannel9256]

Whats colour?

[@gpa1978]

I had two 120mm sid ultimate forks and never noticed any play, not even pushing bike against wall, but I currently have a 100mm SL wich do have play, but to be honest...100% unnoticeable when riding

[@LoveMTB]

Interesting, so your SL is the new 2024 right?

[@gpa1978]

@@LoveMTB no,. I use the "old" 100mm SL(23 model) and the new 120mm (24), I can tell that at least the 120mm does fill little more rigid and linear in compression (wich I belive was the intended desing adjustment)

[@LoveMTB]

Yes that's also my understanding thanks for sharing your experience!@@gpa1978

[@emptycl0ud9]

Oh wow a Canadian bike KZbinr. Do you have a Facebook group or something for your subscribers in Toronto?

[@LoveMTB]

Unfortunately I don't, great idea! And welcome🤘

[@frankschock9981]

What's your opinion on the performance?

[@LoveMTB]

They can fix some of the previous issues w bushing overlap and others, might still have issues with the damper. Otherwise could be ok. BUT all my XC bikes now use Fox 34 SC if that tells you anything…

[@frankschock9981]

@@LoveMTB I have a 2021 Fox 34 SC Fit4 and I'm not a fan. Too flexy and damping quality is poor. It's fine on smoother xc trails but anything technical feels overwhelmed. Maybe the 2024 SID Select is more reliable with the Charger damper. RaceDay damper uses very little oil volume and might be too much of a comprise to get as light as possible. SID Select still has the upgraded Debonair+ air spring. Just heavier chassis (maybe a little stiffer) and heavier/more reliable Charger damper. Only 150 grams heavier overall.

[@SNS1212]

Can you get your viewers a deal through that shop?

[@LoveMTB]

. I always post in the description if I’m able to get that😊 Doesn’t Bicomponents list the SID?

[@davidrae8475]

A bit cheap with the fork not coming stock with the bolt-on fender!

[@LoveMTB]

Yeah agree. But maybe decided to ship both with same so ppl don’t see it as a disadvantage for the SL? On the flip side it was probably cheaper🤔

[@davidrae8475]

@@LoveMTB Here in Australia they are a $AU1500 fork and a $AU40 fender... it's tight-ass!

[@LoveMTB]

@@davidrae8475 same in Canada 😊

[@ToddNZMTB]

Video title spelling mate! The forks look good, nice colour, the square edges are a little odd, not bad odd just different.

[@LoveMTB]

Thanks for that! The "advantages" of a one-man-band😇 It looks better in person and that blue is really nice.

[@michaelgalvez5548]

Wow Rock shox😊❤😅😮

[@ApexHerbivore]

Brand new forks placed on the flagstones. I can't watch

[@LoveMTB]

You sensitive soul😎

[@koukimonzta]

SL for me

[@LoveMTB]

Not a bad choice🤘

[@celsoedirdesouza8195]

❤❤❤

[@wallyedmonds8199]

I go to that store lol cool

[@LoveMTB]

Yeah close by😊

[@wallyedmonds8199]

@@LoveMTB I’m not close , Brantford lol

[@M1keBLR]

Wrongly installed adapter :) you'll never could fit the wheel.

[@LoveMTB]

Huh?😉

[@M1keBLR]

@@LoveMTB this tiny black shim should be mounted towards the crown of the fork :) on the video it's mounted vice versa.

[@LoveMTB]

@@M1keBLR Are we all talking about the Torque Cap adapter?😊

[@M1keBLR]

@@LoveMTB yeap

[@LoveMTB]

@@M1keBLR but you guys got the point right?🤓

[@mikemcintyre8749]

For the love of god stop banging the forks together!!! Just as well they are not your forks lol i would be ragin!! Apart from that good review.

[@LoveMTB]

Fist for the record - no forks have been harmed during this review!🤓 And don’t worry they’re not that fragile or brittle, finish on lowers is pretty hard, great for the application

[@Thosewhowander]

A race fork with manual lockout makes no sense

[@LoveMTB]

Same here 👍