2024 Singapore Grand Prix Race Review | P1 Podcast

[@TheGympert]

Highlight of this weekend was Max giving the FIA the finger during the post qualy press conference and Lando & Lewis backing him.

[@nymphithys1558]

couldnt agree more.

[@zed2653]

if you like ricciardo or not, it shouldnt be difficult to acknowledge that a driver thats been such a prominent figure and quite popular should deserve a proper send off. either let him finish off the season, or if he is going to finish mid-way, give a definitive answer before the race and not leave everyone speculating

[@gavinsullivan9560]

He is the only driver to give us hope from 2014-2020 🥲

[@Appetite4Rose]

It's probably not the last time we've seen him... look at how Hulekberg and KMag got back into the sport after time away... hopefully there'll be an opening for him soon

[@ab8jeh]

Red Bull have no class sadly.

[@Appetite4Rose]

@@ab8jeh Well at least they gave him another opportunity when others wouldn't... if they didn't respect him as much as they do, they would have put Lawson in a lot earlier then they are

[@ab8jeh]

@@Appetite4Rose I do understand that but talking about the current situation now that he's leaving. Tommy is spot on in his analysis, we're not talking about any driver, this is someone that has won races for Red Bull when they didn't have the car to do it. It's just sad.

[@ravinderdasila9334]

One can like or dislike a driver; but the team should have minimum decency to let a driver (and world) officially know his last race before that particular race. If rb announces in this month break that lawson is replacing danny with immediate effect, they should have announced it before Singapore.

[@ccramit]

Look at Ricciardo's post race interview. You don't think he already knew? Come on now.

[@ravinderdasila9334]

@@ccramit then rb is really dumb to not announce it

[@tex4523]

yes i agree, it would have been nice to give daniel a send off message over the radio and allow him to send one of his own. maybe allow him some donuts at the end of the race.

[@DingLiren-nw2vj]

​@@ccramithe knew from the media speculation and RB doing nothing to reassure him

[@Sem5626]

rb knows... and its absolutely a disgrace they did that to him but pretty par for the course for a dog team

[@_Dei_]

How on earth can't we let Danny Ric sign off at Austin? Put him in cowboy boots and a big hat and just let him drive the crap out of that Vcarb one last time...

[@foryoutube9960]

He’s trash that’s why

[@extremegrieferbible]

@@foryoutube9960 So is Perez, but that doesn't seem to bother Red Bull too much.

[@KimJongsMom]

He's not American and too slow for f1

[@Haizenmaier]

Contract

[@flamingburitto]

Lawson's contract needs a minimum number of races in 2025 or else he becomes a free agent.

[@SuperPassionflower]

post race press moment colapinto (Argentine media), translated to English here: Q: “How did you take Checo’s compliment” A: “A capo (slang for good person) I like him a lot, I used to watch him when I was little back at home in Argentina before I came to race in Europe, I’d wake up early to watch him race and now, fighting and racing against him is nice”

[@nymphithys1558]

Thanks! love the local media takes

[@y_fam_goeglyd]

He's a good lad and a cracking racer. Argentina should be proud! I'm betting that Vowles is kicking himself for spending so much on Sainz. It's good to see him bookending the gap between Reutemann and him at Williams. Reutemann should have got a better championship record, he was certainly good enough. Maybe one day, Franco will get one (or more)? 🇬🇧🫱🏼‍🫲🏾🇦🇷

[@kulvirvaghela]

I find it fascinating that when Max is happy with the car Perez just forgets he’s a racing driver and the one time Perez looked alright Max did not appreciate the car, just shows their contrasting driving style. RedBull need to find a driver that’s fine with the same car as Max

[@MohamedLamkhizni]

And is name is ricciardo because his driving style is similar to Max and remember he was the only teamate to beat Max in that Red bull and yes i know then Max was young without experience yet and Max made many mistakes but still

[@kulvirvaghela]

@@MohamedLamkhizni I agree, I mean RedBull are still trying to find a replacement for Daniel Ricciardo to be team mate against Max

[@MohamedLamkhizni]

​​@@kulvirvaghelai hope Maxiel is back as teamates again they have great friendship and Max really like Daniel as he is big brother 🙏

[@spawnofapathy]

I’ve been saying it since last year, that I believe Perez would be faster in a slower car. The faster the RB can be the slower Perez gets.

[@Kaigu_b.f.2508]

Oscar in Monza: "Fuck your championship" Ricciardo in Singapore: "Fuck your Grand Slam"

[@MohamedLamkhizni]

McLean in Hungary "Fuck your championship aswell "LOL

[@rozahkobero6234]

Verstappen in Austria; Fuck your championship too

[@MayaGaikwad-c3y]

Hey fia will give you punishment, stop swearing

[@scsutton1]

Australia really going in for the kill. We've suffered enough with the Ashes.

[@Duriel123]

Strolls finna be like "fuck your race' and crashes into him

[@JH-pj8ld]

Albon and Sainz: "this guy races so hard" Franco: "that's racing🙂‍↔️"

[@Emarq31]

Lol imagine NOT wanting to beat your opponents 😂

[@soundscape26]

Carlos also said Colapinto could've wiped 3 cars. Still he didn't and that's all it matters.

[@arglebargle5531]

More accurate take: it's entirely reasonable for drivers in the race to focus more on the possibility of being taken out than members of the audience do.

[@ccramit]

@soundscape26 Because they both had to go off the track to avoid. But don't let logic and facts get in the way of a good story line.

[@TheRayzorOne]

@@ccramit He didn't even miss the apex, even with how late on the brakes he was, that was an insanely clean move.

[@svenssonsvensson3480]

Love when the team went "Push to build a 5 sec gap to Max" and nobody seemed to keep track of it until they went "Chill, you're 22 secs ahead" lol

[@jdbb3gotskills]

Crazy to see the front runners were so fast they lapped everyone up to P8

[@BrandoN-ie1np]

It was 25 seconds until the front wing got damaged on lap 29... The gap would be over 1 minute in normal condition

[@sierra9565]

The SingaPOOR Grand Prix. I’ll see myself out

[@Becky_Cooling]

Singa Bore?

[@Literature4343]

@@Becky_Coolinglol funny how op missed such an obvious one yet still tried to drop the mic.

[@Eulett_explores]

Singasnore?

[@maltwhiskey1424]

No wonder .. seeing the flags of Singapore and Monaco are so similar !!

[@Sem5626]

@@maltwhiskey1424 ok dad, enough internet for you today

[@flamingburitto]

Colapinto NEEDS to be on the grid next year.

[@NemXX2]

He won't. He is a williams academy driver and williams already has 2 confirmed drivers for next year. His only remote chance would be to go on loan to Sauber/Audi. I don't think Audi really wants that.

[@soundscape26]

@@NemXX2 Yes, I also think Sauber is not interested in nurturing talent from a rival team only to lose him in 2 years time or so.

[@johart309]

if sauber doesn't take him then I could see him being a reserve/test driver at Williams and then jumping in instead of Alex maybe for 2026 onwards

[@robertoyamakata6672]

Sauber don't need a brave driver. They just go for the last place

[@MarsyJ]

Honestly really sad for Danny. Such a great career and it's looking almost definite that he's done in F1. It will be sad without him, and he'll certainly be missed.

[@kimi88cz]

He had plenty of chances and showed nothing after he lesft Red Bull. Shame he was after the money in Renault, it destroyed his career. Now younger guys need to step in

[@JCDenton95]

If he actually cared about his so called career, he would have performed better. A 35 year old in a rookie team is moronic. Materially deficient.

[@Z24_Official]

who knows, maybe we can see him as commentary or something 🤷‍♂️🤞

[@miklosgal119]

Is the great career in the room with us?

[@DingLiren-nw2vj]

​@@miklosgal119 he's been in the highest level of Motorsport longer than you've been alive

[@arno7804]

Riciardo helped Max more than Perez did, for months now.

[@LathropLdST]

Excuse me, would you mind pouring your tears in this glass for me?

[@zed2653]

@@LathropLdST ignoring that its ricciardo's possible last race, genuinely what has perez done to help max this season?

[@jasonleung7515]

@@zed2653 be his little slave

[@paperplane-db8qf]

@@zed2653not racing Max like Oscar has raced Lando

[@billgross1719]

​@@paperplane-db8qfPerez doesn't have the pace to compete with Max like Oscar does with Lando.

[@cy9nvs]

Feels like we're saying "you can't really overtake on this track" for every 2nd race nowadays, they should kick out some of those races for tracks, that are actually suited for modern f1.

[@reno_2200]

Or make the cars smaller Formula E has cars going 3-wide into some corners at Monaco

[@paperplane-db8qf]

There were lots of overtakes in Singapore - Sainz, Leclerc, Piastri. It’s just that you consider there are no overtakes when P2 doesn’t overtake P1.

[@cy9nvs]

@@paperplane-db8qf No, there weren't many overtakes and it is notoriously hard to overtake in Singapore. Perez couldn't even get past a Haas.

[@nymphithys1558]

Agreed. Too many street circuits these days

[@PsychoStreak]

It's not the tracks it's the gigantic cars that have made passing difficult if not impossible at most tracks. The other problem is the dirty air the pursuing car is in basically destroys tires after just a couple of laps before they have to break off the attack and cool the tires.

[@ProgramKiraTV]

As a Charles fan I was cheering for him to get a last corner pass on George but George held on to it with some good driving. Also Coultard interview with Lando was hilarious

[@arand0mpers0n58]

Lando needs to outscore max by at least 9 points every single weekend to win the championship. If Max were to dnf or get dsq for whatever reason, it would make this a whole load easier for Lando. The flip side is that if Lando were to dnf or get dsq, the championship is almost immediately over. There's so much tension this year.

[@MohamedLamkhizni]

Lol

[@EduSaav]

Normally mclaren should bank 1-2 constantly tbh. But depends on red bull update in austin

[@burritoomg]

This is a moment where Piastri can really come through for Lando. Every time McLaren can finish 1-2, they secure at least a 10 point gain for Lando in the DC.

[@edbr2379]

Even 2 more bad races for max with a p5 or lower then lando only needs 6 points in other races. Plus 2 sprints. If Ferrari and piastri didn't mess up Singapore quali max would have been p3 at best, probably p4 or 5.

[@roymcdre9180]

There is no tension, this is a long shot lol prolli not going to happen..

[@arglebargle5531]

Re: Tommy's point at 10:00ish When people talk about how Lando is trying to overcome an unprecedented lead, they're not talking about the current two race win gap, they're talking about the gap he had when he first started closing.

[@into_the_void]

Albon complaining about Colapinto ' dive bombing ' him at the start Was fun , that was a great overtake...

[@rdspam]

“Hey, he’s racing, what’s the deal?”

[@Roguescienceguy]

Colapinto was insanely close to the walls every single lap. That kid drove the wheels of that Williams amd Vowles was an absolute twat by emphasising the car was so great. Franco was almost passing out in the car from complete exhaustion from being on the ragged edge all race and should have deserved all the praise! It's phenomenal what he managed to do. Audi! Pick up the kid. You won't regret it!

[@soundscape26]

The question with Sauber is developing Colapinto only to hand him back to Williams once Albon or Sainz leave... they may not be up to it. Besides there's no indication their 2025 car will be much better than the 2024 one so Colapinto would be racing at the back all the time.

[@RubeusLeclerc]

He’s just wonderful!! Young eager and great positive attitude. Agree he should be getting all the props from Vowles

[@Roguescienceguy]

@@soundscape26 the Williams has only basic facilities. Audi has two insanely modern development centers and they wiped the floor with everyone in 24hours for years. They are maximizing everything they have now. The stake-car they don't care about one bit. I've heard rumours of their PU being almost on par with the Merc one for 26 in development. 25 will already see some of the organisation taking place. Their complete and utter secrecy is telling

[@benjaminmoore8623]

What are you talking about Wovles did praise the dude.

[@judsonjman26]

If Danny Ric was not on VCARB we wouldn't be talking about this. It would have been solely about a driver on his way out trying to make a statement getting fastest lap.

[@nickofzo]

I'd like to see anyone outside the top 10 also being able to get that point, that would spice up the back end of the grid in later stages of the race.

[@lemoNADE_513]

Can Hulkenburg's points finish not count as a biggest winner? He did well to in qualifying

[@hutitch2647]

Singapore snooze aside, this has been one of the best seasons in years, and considering how we all thought it was going to go back in March

[@dipitsh]

If this race was Danny's last for VCARB, I hope he retires. Because I was thinking that as "The Grand Tour" is coming to an end, Danny's personality is so likable that he would be so good as a host for some similar show. I would love to see him do something like that, I hope he does that because we love to see him on screen. Some production companies use their mind and use this opportunity. Coz this might not just be Danny's last season, it might be Bottas's too, these two have such an amazing personality we would love to see them together.

[@JCDenton95]

His personality is being a giant dog of a human. He needs to never be around F1 again.

[@zed2653]

apparently amazon wants to continue the grand tour with new hosts (seems they didnt learn from top gear and the bbc) but i think ricciardo could actually be the personality to take over

[@mattt525]

Daniel riccardo with Ed Bolian? Yeah that could work

[@chrisg667-1]

Daniel and two other retired racing drivers yesssss

[@noone.unknown]

Send kimi along and you have a fun trio

[@jordanhooper1527]

Lando said he took it easy in the 2nd stint because he did the work in the first stint. The "moment" was when he was catching backmarkers

[@Unhomiee]

The reason we don't get safety cars nowadays is because there's no Latifi or Sargeant driving around with one eye closed.. Of course, we still have Stroll.. So maybe a small chance of a safety car.

[@dylanmonaghan3342]

That and the fact that tyre management is such a big part of F1 these days that most of the time they are not pushing to quali level lap pace. Historically the tyres have been hardier and drivers pushed more cause they could and had to to win.

[@mgers75]

I'm usually super skeptical when guys who aren't considered prodigies get their chance in F1 while everyone else like these two knuckleheads are overhyping them after one race...Cough Nik DeVrees. But, it's been 3 races and I still need to see more but Colapinto looks quite fast and skilled. That divebomb at the start was perfectly executed. He's been within a tenth of Albon just about every qualifier whether it be Q1, 2, or 3. He's finished all three races was in the point or near the points. He' got 3 top 12 finishes in three races. Logan score 4 top 12 in 36 starts.

[@silviojose9601]

I think the fastest lap of Ricciardo is like when Schumacher let Vettel pass in Brazil 2012, it wasn’t a team order, it was something he wanted to do

[@miklosgal119]

Did you listen to the racing bulls radio the whole time?

[@Gleepglurp]

​@@miklosgal119did you

[@MohamedLamkhizni]

Or Timo Glock in Brazil in 2008lol

[@isaacm2374]

We'll see in the next 6 races if Vcarb goes for the fastest lap when Norris has it

[@bill4665]

They told him to do it, not Daniel doing it out of his own affairs.

[@usedtoexistonce]

colapinto has world champion written all over him imo call me crazy but hes bold hes brave hes super quick from the get go and a lovely guy as well and even in his junior career has always outperformed his teammates in what were not the best teams as far as feeder series go perhaps he could pull a piastri and sit a year out and build his stock up for now

[@roxannelyson7715]

Every time I hear ppl attacking Red Bull for inter-team cooperation, I remember Bahrain 2021 when George (still driving for Williams) was told by his race engineer that Lewis was coming up to lap him and George replied that he would try to let Lewis by right where Lewis could get DRS. Teams have always done things that could be argued were cooperating. Look at Fernando (with a Mercedes engine) taking fastest lap way from Max/RB even though he only finished P18 in the race.

[@ILiquidGasI]

I hope that wasn't Danny Ric's last race. But the way he wanted to get that one last fast lap and his emotions after the race tells me it's his last, at least for now 😢

[@bradymarchewka4788]

I think it could also be Daniel knowing it’s his last race and wanting one last accolade

[@MonFrereGaming]

Can we not blame Lewis for that strategy please Matt 😅

[@thecompanioncube4211]

What an atrocious dicision that was to use softs first.

[@sudazima]

colapintos driving honestly reminds me of piastris, and everyone rates him super highly

[@Becky_Cooling]

I'm going to believe that Ricciardo is driving in COTA until he's been officially sacked

[@foryoutube9960]

Nahhh Trashcardo is hopefully gone, good riddance to that trash

[@bourkey07]

You guys need to get a grip with the "put 42 seconds on his team mate" garbage. You do it almost every week with someone. If they are 1,2 on the road and this happens, that's putting 42 seconds on your team mate. Not pulling away while the other is stuck in traffic on a track that's near impossible to pass at.

[@vaderpt]

Danny"s helmet had a message "Not without a fight"...

[@ShibbyRomes]

Could you put a banner at the bottom of the screen showing the topic/question being discussed? This would make it easier to scrub to what we want to listen to when short on time.

[@Precision_Peter]

People act like Norris was the first driver ever to make a mistake while driving in clean air

[@darrenjohn8524]

When have you seen somebody making a mistake with 20 seconds lead 🤣.

[@MohamedLamkhizni]

Ouch is it you want to Make excuses just to feels better another delusional Lando DTS snowflake crying fangirls spoted 😂

[@soundscape26]

@@darrenjohn8524 That's probably what caused it... cruise mode can lead to lapses in focus.

[@MajieB]

@@darrenjohn8524 Not even just 1 but 3. He almost took himself out the same way George did last year. Pressure will continue to build and he will buckle, if he already cant keep it clean with a 30sec lead.

[@darrenjohn8524]

@@soundscape26 Sorry but this is just a bad excuse.

[@GamingAssociates]

It's just that fastest lap means you went around the fastest and in racing that's what it's all about. i love you both and thank you for all the content

[@mischavanasperen3063]

Ricciardo: if I can't go out gracefully, I will go out in style! 😅

[@SirShadeyy]

Lando was 52 points behind Max in Miami and now he’s 52 behind after Singapore. One race can still swing it but time will tell, obviously

[@ashleypribyl5647]

One race did swing it already. Max crashing into Lando gave him a 17 point swing in austria

[@Mik1604]

McLaren have been taking points away from Lando like it is going out of style, but now this single Ricciardo special is what makes the difference? Oh please.

[@CoolHandLuke7]

Because Red Bull has a second team they can use to sabotage rivals. One team having 4 cars on the grid is a disgrace, never should have been allowed.

[@soundscape26]

Yes because what's behind it... a single entity running 4 cars.

[@NemXX2]

It's all nice to complain now, but no one wanted to race with 3 cars and they were all too happy to let red bull buy a second team. Go ask the other teams if they want to race with 3 cars now. I doubt they do. Would we be having this conversation if magnussen got the fastest lap instead?

[@tuomasholo]

I predict Lando will lose the WDC by one point

[@pnw_jordan]

If Lando loses the WDC by one point, McLaren have only themselves to blame for *rewarding* Piastri’s selfish and dangerous driving against his teammate.

[@Emma-i9x]

0:32 also a 4 week break in a 20+ race season besides the summer brake is just horrible planning

[@cecilialeitet2794]

From actually being trackside at Singapore (I am so lucky to get to go there, it was my first GP irl as well) my moment of the race were Oscars two overtakes on the Mercs. McLaren (and especially Oscar) had SO many fans in Singapore (especially aussies) and the ROAR that spread all along the track in those moments was wonderful. We didn´t have a screen where we stood, but there was no doubting what happened. The only thing louder was Lando coming out of the first corner in the lead :) It´s also funny about Landos brush with the wall. As I said we had no screen so we actually didn´t know that happened. We only saw from our own timings that he suddently lost 4 seconds on one of his lap, where all the others where basically on autopilot witihin a tenth of each other. We figured he made a misstake, didn´t expect it to be that dramatic! Wonderful week in Singapore, would love to go again.

[@selder_7]

Ricciardo last hurrah and send off at Austin. He’s earned that over his career (particularly from Redbull). Lawson can wait one more race (particularly because he’s only getting this chance because Ricciardo got injured)

[@bayuardiantoid]

People seems to forget Verstappen also had similar oopsy moment in Miami which eventually lead to Lando's first win.

[@vDomMusic]

All drivers should be able to earn the point for fastest lap. It would make the dying moments of a race more exciting, plus it helps the smaller teams in the constructers, making it closer.

[@chaosthebaryonyx6344]

So p11 gets 0 points and p20 gets 1 sometimes? I don't think it's a good idea

[@vDomMusic]

@@chaosthebaryonyx6344 I think its a great idea, but only works if all the lower down teams are going for it, otherwise yeah, it would be a bit dumb.

[@stupidmemes3955]

@@vDomMusic then every bottom 5 team would just go for fastest lap. youd see zhou gyanyu in 20th scoring the fastest lap every race after pitting on the last lap. he'd score 24 pts throughout the season, by finishing last. if this was to be implemented, they should adjust the points system to award points for all positions, which i think they should do that regardless honestly. then they could have fastest lap points for everyone.

[@vDomMusic]

@@stupidmemes3955 Fair point, I could see that happening. Well, maybe not with Zhou but with some other drivers, ha!

[@foxyfoxington2651]

This is an “if you have a problem with it then go buy a second team” sort of situation.

[@jstambo478]

Why can't Lando fans accept that some people don't like him. Max and LH fans were told to just get over it.

[@soundscape26]

That's true but at the same time I think he gets a lot of unjustified flak. Dominant weekends like Zandvoort and Singapore are shrugged off with a meh by many people but when Oscar wins a race he's automatically called "WDC material". I rate Oscar but there is quite an obvious double standards here.

[@artemisd.9450]

At the moment, he is an unlikable figure, he comes out very arrogant since he won in Miami, which is so strange because he looked nice and fun before that. He just looks and talks like a brat now. Hopefully he will go back to normal soon.

[@jstambo478]

@@soundscape26 I agree a lot of the flak he is getting for his actual racing I think is crazy. This has been an incredible season to watch and the racing on track is amazing

[@soundscape26]

@@artemisd.9450 But before he was accused of being too kiddish for his own good and that in order to be a champion you need to be a lot less nicer and all. Now that he's being a bit more serious and cheeky he should go back to his old ways? Can't win I guess.

[@inspiredglue2056]

@@soundscape26 There is a difference which is that Oscar doesn't even have 2 seasons of experience yet and he's near Lando's level already.

[@YFlozone]

We definitely need the races to be ranked as we go through the season to determine if the season is a banger or not

[@freyboy20]

I think it’s the same as flexi wing, if it is legal then there is no “fair” or not. Dan Ric said in the interview tht he wanted to help max, so it’s his own decision really

[@lucasbush113]

I sharpen my work knives while I listen to these, Mondays are knife days and rave reviews days, the timing matches up perfectly

[@teecey08]

The trouble with the fastest lap drama is I believe there to be a big difference in a relationship between a manufacturer team and a purchaser team (merc - McLaren etc) and an outright second owned team like red bull and vcarb. It can’t be proven I’m sure, but I’d be highly surprised if there wasn’t a conversation had “off air” between red bull and vcarb to get Danny Ric to come in and take fastest lap.

[@RoysIdea]

If Ricciardo’s relationship with Lando would have been better he might have decided to not take the fastest lap

[@teecey08]

@@RoysIdea I’d say Ricciardos issue would be with mclaren more than Lando if he had any issues at all, just for the fact that Lando got invited to spend some holiday time at Danny Rics farm last winter. Regardless, that has nothing to do with the points I have made in my first comment about team ownerships and orders.

[@darrenjohn8524]

​@@teecey08As you said, it's impossible to prove collusion. McLaren could have gotten the fastest lap by pitting when they had the gap.

[@D-Fit]

What about Mercedes and Williams. Toto litteraly has stakes in that team. Its basically the same als RedBull and racing bulls its just not that much out there. Ferrari and haas the same. They have as much to say about the second team as red bull has with racing bulls. Its just a bit more covered by giving it to an other owner. But behind the scenes everyone knows who owns Williams or haas.

[@cyan_oxy6734]

​@@D-Fit I don't see Alonso, Albon or Piastri pitting to help Mercedes get a championship.

[@Mr_Oakw00d]

People need to remember how Ferrari used Sauber in the 1997 to slow down Villenauve while having blue flags. There is even footage of Jean Todd going to the sauber garage xD This is something that happens already for decades. Multiple teams have interest with the F1.5 teams

[@RML0317]

2:01 lol. The tv direction again was kind of horrible. They also seemed to struggle with the infographics during the race

[@As-qz5lr]

Wasn't the battle between Hulk, Alonso and Leclerc just as exciting as the battle between Piastri, Leclerc and Perez last week where nothing happened for most the race?

[@lisandromon1035]

Thanks for always talking about Colapinto. One of my favourite F1 podcasts in English. Greetings from Argentina. Vamos! 🟦⬜🟦

[@高橋澄一]

This year's Singapore Grand Prix was the second worse race (only second to Monaco) because of how boring it was.

[@rdspam]

Gee, where have I heard that before.

[@dmurphy1578]

This is the best season I ever ever seen. I thought max just running down LH was the best I’d ever see. This is amazing.

[@johart309]

Just let Danny have the fastest lap and DOTD for the legacy and memes. Dont ruin it with crying about conspiracy...anybody can pit and go for fastest lap at any time. Magnussen lost it only bcs of track limits btw. And when three or how many driver did go for a fastest lap only to have been beaten by Lando with old hards (two races ago) on the last lap. No-one was crying about how others wanted to ''steal'' points from him. This time it just worked out the other way. And don't forget, that without RBR taking Danny back under their wings as a reserve driver first, they gave him/his career much more time in the paddock. What send-off do you want? Kimi's car broke down in his last race and he didn't get A SINGLE WORD about that being his last race in the official F1 race highlights

[@SuperRex200]

I think you guys are both missing the point...RB has an unpunishable method to gain an advantage over their rivals without having to compromise the race of their main 2 cars. Sets a dangerous precedent

[@Coen80]

Colapinto in the 2nd RB next year :)

[@The55five5]

I might need to go back and watch the preview race reviews. You talk about how insane this season is (and I agree it has been wild) but I felt like until Baku almost every review was like "another snooze but there was some small highlight" so it's interesting to see you talk about the races so positively

[@KarvidSR]

The most controversial 2nd team move I saw was during Qatar 2021, where Gasly didnt even open his DRS on the straight and just let Max go straight through to chase Lewis. They definetly do hold up certain drivers more and others less, but ofc as you said, same can be said for specific drivers too.

[@Umar-gw6fy]

If Mclaren were so worried about the fastest lap they should’ve pitted Lando when he was 28 seconds ahead for a medium tyre

[@Brugjeoverhetwater]

Is it fair? Yes. anyone can go for the fastest lap, regardles the motivation.

[@AlexaMG35]

To be fair, last year's Singapore GP was pretty good, but that was because the leader was going deliberately slower to hold onto their tyres as long as they could and the field spread was tiny (in fact that happened a fair amount in Singapore). This was much more a typical F1 race than last year's where that field spread was pretty big

[@bndncn]

Remember that time Verstappen literally spun his car in the lead and went on to win the race? I don't think that guy is ready to be a world champion tbh.

[@notastone4832]

he was just checking to see if leclerc was actually on hard tires.

[@brandonhollis9882]

Or remember that time in 2007 when Lewis Hamilton, in his first title fight, beached the car in the gravel trap entering the pits in China - bottling a chance at the championship? I’m sure that guy isn’t cut out to be a champion either. Oh, wait…..

[@bugsbycarlin]

​@@brandonhollis9882 I don't think anyone who thought the guy who won four races in his first season and tied the double world champion on points wasn't cut out to be champion. I think everyone correctly thought "wow, once that guy grows up just a bit, he's going to be the next Schumacher". Sure enough, he went on to win in every season for fourteen years, great car or merely good car. That's a stark contrast to Lando, who has bottled *a lot* of opportunities in a short time.

[@shadowdog200]

No one mentions when some midfielder takes fastest lap until it takes a point away from a British driver fighting for the championship.

[@kjell278]

I think this race showed us again how incredible max 2023 season was, he had a car that had i think a similar advantage and we saw as much mistakes in the whole year as norris made in the last 2… just goes to show how incredible max truly is

[@manasgupta2765]

I feel like people forget that max spun his car in Hungary

[@paperplane-db8qf]

No it was way more dominant that the McLaren that even a shit driver like Perez was easily P2. Max was just coasting and he was pretty shit in Singapore. The levels of delusion to think McLaren in 2024 is as strong as Redbull in 2023. You know anyone can say the same bullshit. Schumacher’s 2004 Ferrari was as competitive as Max’s 2024 Redbull. The real GOAT of F1.

[@MohamedLamkhizni]

​@@paperplane-db8qfdelusional team LH DTS anti Max crybabies spoted

[@MohamedLamkhizni]

​@@manasgupta2765🤣

[@paperplane-db8qf]

@@MohamedLamkhizni the only crybabies here are you upset that Max hasn’t won in like 6 races and looked like a number 2 driver in Baku 🤣

[@jaidenpean1084]

The fact that you guys forgot to bring up Canada as a banger race just shows how good this season is

[@mutleyeng]

ITs not really about Ricciardos lap - Should one organisation own two competitors in the same series? The answer to that is obviously no , when there are others wanting to come in but cant because the grid if "full". m not sure if the FIA can actually do anything about it, legally, but it certainly shouldn't have been allowed to happen in the first place

[@djchotus1]

yeah, but there's James V in Williams and the Haas team for the other, all closely assosicated anyway. so the same thing hapens anyway. just let fastest lap have a point, then you'll have 10 drivers going for it at the end of the races.... carnage

[@lPWNBLACKOPS]

Should Mclaren have been allowed to have illegal wings since miami? No.

[@uldislavrinovics]

Lando, can you do anything to hold Perez up in the middle sector without hurting yourself - meh

[@c-pw8fc]

@@lPWNBLACKOPS Good job with your completely unrelated whataboutism.

[@megalamanooblol]

People forgot or dont know that it was F1 itself that pushed for RB to buy Minardi.

[@GEUB]

Listening from Peru, while walking my dogs

[@dipitsh]

If lando loses to max by a few points, I hope people don't start blaming oscar for Hungary, because there is nothing to blame, that win was his. Before blaming oscar think about the crash in Austria and the qualifying in Baku. And if Danny helped Max with the fastest lap then so be it, Danny deserved that lap, bcoz he isn't getting a proper send off.

[@Kloziee]

I still wonder what wouldve happened if lando instantly let oscar pass and try to pass him on track after letting him by

[@flamingburitto]

No one will blame Oscar. Everyone will blame McLaren.

[@hipotenuza5663]

​@@Kloziee he wasn't allowed to race him at that stage of the race.

[@Harry-TramAnh]

What's a proper send off and why is he owed one?

[@coin5207]

​@@GamerSloth2275 Lando was ahead of Oscar in Silverstone. How would a double stack lose Lando 3 seconds?

[@DavidJopson]

One way to improve the fastest lap farce is to only allow laps from the top ten finishers to be considered. At the end of the race, see who among the top ten has the fastest lap and award the point. All laps by places 11-20 are not considered for the point; although they can be eligible for track records, etc.

[@joshclooney2724]

When max was in a dominant car he wasnt nearly running into walls. Norris isnt on the level of Max and Lewis consistency wise.

[@kevinespinoza7959]

Piastri neither

[@ItsJayTeaYT]

As someone who started watching in 2021 I think other people that started watching that season as well have to high of expectations and think every race should be a 2021 Monza, 2021 Brazil, or 2021 Abu Dhabi situation just to name a few. But I’m not one of them. Last season I taped over max and still enjoyed it who was going to be P2 and P3. This season has been amazing because so many different outcomes can happen. Never know who’s going to win. Even if my favorite driver doesn’t win I enjoy the race

[@nymphithys1558]

Id say, you can call yourself a real f1 racefan, unlike just a driver fan ^^ I think DTS is also to blame for a big part. People always expect random drama, and i really feel so many drama is being MADE UP by the media when there is none, its getting ridiculous.

[@ty_ranic3197]

Possible solution to the fastest lap controversy would be, only lap times from the points scorers should be considered for the fastest lap point. I think the extra point would be genuinely earned. Risk vs reward. Going for fastest lap by pitting may cause you to lose positions / points.

[@Duval-In-The-Wall]

That’s literally how they did it in GP2, I’m amazed F1 doesn’t do that

[@roelsteeghs]

​@@Duval-In-The-Wall because it was no issue in the past, it's now an issue, because it happened to a British driver

[@roelsteeghs]

In 2023, first race, Zhou got the fastest lap in the panultimate lap, grabbing the point from Max, nobody claimed then that the second Ferrari team (Alfa Romeo) did this to help Ferrari. And that the rules need to be changed.

[@alexjballer]

One way to try to mitigate the fastest lap issue is to put in the rules that if a driver outside of the top 10 sets the fastest lap that it doesn't count and the point still goes to the most recent driver to set the fastest lap within the points. For example, if george had it and Danny ric took it at the end, then george would still get the point because he had it most recently, and he finished within the points. Also the FIA could do more in this situation because red bull actually owns both teams. It would be less likely to happen if it was different ownership.

[@ianchinsor9248]

I don’t feel bad for Danny at all, he has had plenty of chances now to prove himself. Leaving red bull was the worst career move in hindsight, yes he would have ended up second driver to Max but they were the best pairing red bull ever had. Perez has lost red bull the constructors this year.

[@SpeedyCM]

Considering he made a hell of a lot more money at Renault and Mclaren than he ever would have at Red Bull it can't really be considered a bad career move.

[@benjaminmoore8623]

He was given a way back from the dead. He didn't live up to the opportunity, in fact he was summarily outdone by Tsunoda so he frankly was kept in the seat for as long as it was possible. With Perez shaky and Verstappen being a flight risk post 25, Horner needs to make a move. Ric knows this too.

[@k.moskowitz9732]

once you hear tommy say “ermhhh” after every pause you can’t unnotice it

[@martijndraijer8414]

How can people slander Lando after leading for 22 seconds, being really far infront of his team mate and laping almost fully round.... Thats wierd right... So lets talk about Max getting slandered for the last 3 years for just being there.

[@MohamedLamkhizni]

#Still we cry #

[@martijndraijer8414]

@@MohamedLamkhizni Exactly my point, its because of people like you.

[@nuztuz903]

tbf as soon as oscar got free air he was on pace with lando. oscar needs to be more consistent in quali cause his race pace is there

[@MohamedLamkhizni]

​@@martijndraijer8414#still we cry since AD21 for three years and counting and dont cry like B***when you here Horner said on the Radio 🔉 Max you are 4 time WDC meanwhile both of your heros the other in 2021 and mr if if if bottled it with the best car and suck it 🤣🤡😭🤓🙎‍♂️🖕

[@MohamedLamkhizni]

Cry me river ❄️🤣

[@srengramgaard2154]

Just wanna say thanks for a great show. Allways watch your shows, an looking forward to them. They have become a part of my F1 experience 😀👍👏

[@SchumiGibtGummi]

They should just give the points to the fastest lap out of the top ten. So if someone from the back pits for the fastest lap he wouldn’t steal the point

[@gregorypachis795]

I think the question about o"n track action not being that great" has a point I think if you compare overtaking from 2000s to overtaking now it's a drastic difference.Everything now is so much on mechanicals things like tyres, Drs, energy, strategy. It doesn't feel like drivers are fighting for the position,more like "oh well the strategy says I should get past him /oh well he isn't my fight ,I ll let him pass next straight"

[@safcjcp]

The fact vcarb 'know their role' is the problem, other teams aren't so closely tied together financially

[@MohamedLamkhizni]

🧢

[@kityhawk2000]

So if Merc bought the other 7 teams on the grid and used them to allow their main team to win you'd be fine with this?

[@kydflash24]

I woke up at 5am for race start and regretted every lap I continued to watch 😂😂

[@abigailcooling6604]

I watched the extended highlights on Channel 4 and it was still boring.

[@inspiredglue2056]

I hope that Verstappen wins the championship. Lando has done better sometimes, but he doesn't deserve the championship. He has dropped the ball and lost out on many race wins this season and Verstappen has been nearly flawless.

[@kevinespinoza7959]

This is about winning not deserving

[@benjaminmoore8623]

Agree. I don't think Lando is ready.

[@brandonhollis9882]

Doesn’t matter if you think he’s “ready” or “deserving”. If he pulls it off and scores more points he is the champion, end of story. He will have earned it by outperforming all 19 others over the course of 24 races. That’s how championships work.

[@inspiredglue2056]

@@brandonhollis9882 Well, I'm not sure if winning a championship always means you outperformed everyone else. Max has been more consistently exceptional this year, and I say that as someone who was outraged at the 2021 decider and who thoroughly dislikes Red Bull. Max has been the best driver alongside Leclerc, and, in my opinion, Piastri (considering his experience, I put him above Norris on how impressive he is). My personal opinion is that this championship should be Max's.

[@stupidmemes3955]

@@inspiredglue2056 sadly it isnt up to u who wins, its up to the drivers. if lando outscores max, he wins the championship. and a championship does always mean you outperformed everyone. and if it was based on who maximised the car throughout the year, then give the championship to hulkenberg, who still hasnt scored a podium in f1, and hasnt outperformed max or lando.

[@bcolerl8915]

honestly i didnt find the race that bad it was not super action packed but with hamilton on the softs starting and the Russell/Piastri battle wasnt that bad either. you cant expect a great race when 2nd is 20 secs ahead of 3rd and 1st is 20 seconds ahead of 2nd but all in all the midfield was having some good battles and Hulkenburg was defending hella well.

[@RockSolitude]

Singapore GP really needs to be replaced i'm sorry. That race was atrocious. Nobody could overtake even with faster cars. Dirty air made way too much of a difference vs. clean air. Either bring back Thomson road or just replace it with Sepang or something in Indonesia. I don't get how F1 can think races like this is acceptable.

[@dipitsh]

I think it's just about money. Singapore and Monaco bring FIA a lot of money.

[@thecompanioncube4211]

Chill out. This was no Monaco. Currently the driving standard and car reliability is very high so we didn’t get safety car, otherwise Singapore has 100% chance of getting Safety car /VSC before yesterday

[@soundscape26]

Singapore always relied on Safety Cars to bunch the pack and/or the occasional weather changes to produce an entertaining race, without either you get this.

[@angelrobles7201]

The problem is that FIA and Liberty have heralded Singapore as the exemplary event for F1. However, it's really not an exemplary event because it's a great showcase of the sport, but because it's a big cash cow. In several years, the Singapore weekend has been a music festival with 20 or so cars running around in the background, and only half or so of the attendees actually care about those cars.

[@nymphithys1558]

Couldnt agree more!!!

[@Tlotoxl]

The difference between RB/VCARB and the rest is they are both owned by the same team, they have the same management, they are operating out of the same factory. Force RB to sell RB2. There will be plenty of takers. Fastest lap is a good idea, why did Norris touch the wall? Because he wanted fastest lap .

[@soledadbuzatto4070]

Lando Norris has 2 wins in his last 6 poles Charles Leclerc has 1 win from his last 15 poles Norris' hate agenda is ridiculous

[@MohamedLamkhizni]

Cry

[@soledadbuzatto4070]

@@MohamedLamkhizni There is nothing to cry about, unless it is because of happiness because my favorite driver is having a spectacular season.

[@jonahgrimbly7565]

But isn't the point that Lando has the faster car during most races

[@MohamedLamkhizni]

​@@soledadbuzatto4070cry

[@luciekralova1287]

Diference is Lando now has Best car Not just for quali but race as well. Charles didnt have that.

[@mnokov2554]

The fact that you get a point for fastest lap but not a point for pole position still blows my mind

[@Gladiator-b7h]

just to add, KMag would have had the fastest lap if it wasn't deleted for track limits. He too, just like Danny had nothing to gain (as points) doing that. This controversy is just convenience because RedBull's sister team did that !

[@MohamedLamkhizni]

Pretty sure some people and certains Media will find away to whining about that Fastest lap point even if it was KMAG the one take it in the end lol And some delesionals in this replys comment section proved what i meant

[@aidenl205]

He changed tires cos of a puncture tho

[@ua697]

Neither Ricciardo nor Magnussen apparently feel they owe McLaren anything 😎

[@paperplane-db8qf]

KMag didn’t pit on the second last lap to get the fastest lap. He pit because he had to pit from a puncture multiple laps before the end. There’s an obvious difference. Stop bringing up stupid points and spreading misinformation.

[@soundscape26]

As others have said, Kev Mag had to pit because of a puncture... c'mon

[@JonImperial]

What if the fastest lap point can only be in earned by the fastest lap done by someone in the top 10? I think that makes it so someone outside of the points can't just box for softs without any sort of risk.

[@FrankieMacYYC]

If Lando does end up losing the championship by one point, I would be more inclined to look at McLaren sacrificing THREE points by not swapping in Italy rather than one fastest lap.

[@Alan.livingston]

Or where Lando has failed to win any of the other 14 races he’s lost so far this year. I don’t get why people are so focussed on blaming this moment or that when either the driver or the team have combined to win so few races in a very, very long season. Maybe come to a season with a decent car for once rather than switching on half way through the season and the driver actually needs to deliver on the chances the team do actually give him rather than sitting in the post whatever conference once again bemoaning some error he made that let the pole or win slip by.

[@20Korna07]

Part of me thinks that this season only seems so amazing because it's after the most dominant season ever with 2023. The beginning of 2022 was amazing and the middle/end of 2024 is shaping out to be great aswell. Hopefully the finale will be awesome with Redbull a bit better again and a real fight for the championship.

[@msaejil7753]

What’s to sort out??? Danny Ricc still had to do the lap (new tyres or not). Lando tried it and nearly hit the wall. Plenty of other drivers have tried it and failed. Unless the rules change - fair play Danny Ricc!!!

[@Lorenzovd]

Listened to this in the sahara desert. I feel very included thank you!