The reason for the indicators being old school is error and warning indicators need to be functional even if there is a screen issue. Something goes wrong with the TFT and you can still see what is going one with vital systems.
@marius935 ай бұрын
Isnt this technically the 4th generation?
@gogomoto59365 ай бұрын
Yes its 4th
@mt09madness5 ай бұрын
Correct....
@ashwinraggs42265 ай бұрын
Yeap
@bmwm3man5 ай бұрын
I guess technically, but the first two were the same just with a facelift.
@SigmaJAD5 ай бұрын
All honesty, unless youre touring, all the bike youll ever need
@arjenbootsma68815 ай бұрын
I just had an SW-Motech luggage rack installed on my '20 MT-09, it looks very neat and "streamlined" without the carrier plate, and with it I can strap a decent size duffel bag securely to the rack. So yes, it works for touring as well!
@ehiggins74765 ай бұрын
@@arjenbootsma6881 I have a 22 Kawi Ninja 1000 SX. Great sports tourer. Hard to do long days on open highways on a naked like the MT. Even with a windshield and fairings on mine, anything over 400 miles and strong wind beats you up, can imagine how an MT would fare. I see this MT being an awesome bike for canyons commuting and short weekend trips.
@SigmaJAD5 ай бұрын
@@arjenbootsma6881 I "thought" it may be fine. Was just keeping the tour specific bikes in mind. I have a 23 XSR 900. The engine makes it one of the best bikes I've ever owned. Top 2 certainly. I guess I could tour too but living in Scotland, think I'd appreciate one of those big screens
@jalapeno.tabasco5 ай бұрын
yes
@raeyon7253 ай бұрын
@@SigmaJAD Can u not put.a big windscreen on these, add a comfort seat and some saddle bags and make it a 'tour' bike? I'm planning on doing that that's why and this bike has it all.
@marscruz5 ай бұрын
Imagine riding those roads in the Santa Cruz Mountains 50 years ago before all the double yellow lines and hordes of tourists and Silicon Valley entrepreneurs moved in. It was blissful on my Norton Commando. Loads of fun and exhilarating for a weekend warrior escaping the drudgery of the weekday work blues. Them were the days, man!
@vondenballs5 ай бұрын
Was the same in Europe. Now in Europe, the road is the only place the police is aggressive.
@boywonderrr713 ай бұрын
I LOVE HWY 9 from Stevens creek, my fav ride. Had to escape CA and now 2 hrs from the Dragon. Cant wait to get my MT90. Trying to decide SP or not.
@marscruz3 ай бұрын
@@boywonderrr71 I left California as well. Too crowded and expensive, amongst other things. I've heard about the Dragon. It's legendary. I'm far from any sizable metro area and am blessed with many great curvy and sparsely traveled roads. Keep the shiny side up! Enjoy!
@mt09madness5 ай бұрын
Gen 2 is still the best lookin!!! Keeping my 2018...
@Trevster655 ай бұрын
Bike is awesome, Yamaha doing what they do best.
@chrissunde11045 ай бұрын
990 duke starts out a little more expensive and then it breaks.
@SirMountainpass5 ай бұрын
Don’t touch it if you want to enjoy the entire season without any unwanted visits to the dealership 😎✌️
@GameWinner853 ай бұрын
I had my Super Duke 2021, brand new was delivered to door step, on the first 100 miles, faults came, so was Return to Dealer>> Never in my life again for that Brand. 😁
@RichardO-y6j5 ай бұрын
I LOVE that this video lets you hear the engine. So many of these reviews have very little engine sound in them. It's a motorcycle, I want to hear it! Previous reviews of this bike complained that the off-idle throttle pick-up was abrupt. Has that improved?
@tg81505 ай бұрын
I had a ‘15 FZ-07 for 5 years. Bought into the “need more power” thing. Bought a sweet matte black ‘22 MT-09- it was overkill. Sold it and got myself another FZ-07. It’s the sweet spot imo.
@ThePresidentofMars5 ай бұрын
3:00 glad someone finally said. Your the first reviewer ive seen that brings it up. I prefer the cp2 engine and ride by cable i think its called but i wouldnt want to be looking at those black borders if i had to live with the bike
@Otterplus5 ай бұрын
i was so distracted by the other riders going 3 wide in front of you omg
@rcafmaintainer37235 ай бұрын
The R9 is going to be such a great bike!! They won’t have enough in the dealerships! I have the 22 Tracer 9 GT and I’d get an R9 for the track.
@Carvetii5 ай бұрын
the 990 duke isnt just a little bit more expensive it 3k more expensive then you have to buy the tech pack. no contest MT09 all day everyday
@volodymyrshoniia24245 ай бұрын
It's sad when you don't think that 3k is a little bit, especially if you're into financing, or even if you aren't.
@ehiggins74765 ай бұрын
I like both bikes on paper, haven't ridden them yet. Can't see how to justify the extra $3K for the Duke
@fabiena17875 ай бұрын
@@ehiggins7476 I have ridden both, and I own a KTM currently (a 1290 Super Adventure S, but I want to go lighter). The 990 was very good and very impressive (but not at all a mini Super Duke, in my opinion). At the same price point, the comparison would be very tight, with a KTM sportier overall, more precise and most certainly more of a weapon for the twisties, or very fast riding. BUT the pricing of the 990 is insane (I mean 4000 € more insane, even with the Tech Pack offered these days in Europe). The MT-09 that I tested was truly enjoyable and very lively. It seems like a good fit for me and my use, and I'm even comfortable bringing it on track this summer. I am in the process of purchasing the base model after 3 KTMs (a SMT and two SAS, and no reliability issue with them). If need be, I'll throw a rear shock and fork springs, or cartridges, along the way. Maybe a steering damper would be the first mod? And then this bike will be near perfect (for me) for less than an SP (whose color scheme I don't like).
@Carvetii5 ай бұрын
@@volodymyrshoniia2424 what are you on abouit
@liqd5 ай бұрын
@@volodymyrshoniia2424 Everything is relative. In this instance its almost a third of the bike. Is a third of a bike, just a little bit? :)
@bradleybaker88945 ай бұрын
I’m looking at the MT09 and the KTM 990. Both would meet my wants and needs. The KTM 990 looks great in reviews but it is a KTM and I personally know several riders who have missed major portions of the riding season with their KTM bike in the shop for extended periods of time. There is nothing cool about that. The 990 is an all new bike. The vast majority of it is changed from previous models and KTM makes a point of that. Is that a good thing from a brand whose bikes are not that reliable? I already don’t like the 2024 MT09 TFT display. Yamaha reliability and dealer network is better KTM. I guess I can live with the TFT and hope for a software upgrade.
@boywonderrr713 ай бұрын
I LOVE HWY 9 from Stevens creek, my fav ride. Had to escape CA and now 2 hrs from the Dragon. Cant wait to get my MT90. Trying to decide SP or not.
@FT-gv5no5 ай бұрын
This video is amazing. good job man
@RumblestripDotNet5 ай бұрын
Next time Troy sees Markus Kramer, "man, I'd love to see what you could do with the MT-09 engine in one of your chassis......."
@fir55785 ай бұрын
Love MT09 v4..plan to get one next year
@lateralus92445 ай бұрын
Isn't the purpose of duel rev counters to make it more easy be able to see what your revs are when hanging off of either side of the bike when cornering?
@chrispy8575 ай бұрын
First, why didn't I make it into the vid!? I was the cyclist bombing down the front side of 9 as you guys were going back into Saratoga around 4:30. Second, does the transmission still rattle when in neutral like my 2015 Fz09? I'm considering moving to a Street Triple for the smoooooooth motor.
@gregor18285 ай бұрын
Is the stock exhaust loud as the last years model?
@fir55785 ай бұрын
Bike equip with quickshifter up and down..What if i still pull the clutch when gear up or down? Make any difference
@BacaBej5 ай бұрын
you can also just use the clutch as in every other bike
@amococ24875 ай бұрын
Then it would act as normal. What did you think would happen?
@dimitardimitrov8396Ай бұрын
Is it comfortable for tall people, around 190 cm?
@Jonffjfjffkjfjf59395 ай бұрын
Nice vid, but did't the gen 3 come in -21 and nott 20 lile you say in the vid
@r.c.reasor48075 ай бұрын
I was in the powersports business all my life selling all the major brands at one time or another.I don't want to look down at a tablet instead of actual instruments. The rest of the bike is great. Yamaha makes an excellent product just like Honda, Kawasaki and Suzuki.
@sural895 ай бұрын
that loss in power compare to the gen 3 has been debunk smaller airbox on the gen 4 (112 vs 107 rwhp)
@urbanstrencan5 ай бұрын
My choice in this segment is Husqvarna Svarpilen 801❤❤
@marcusgeorge18255 ай бұрын
The screen size within the display dimensions will be increased in the next model as a mid cycle update.
@bradleybaker88945 ай бұрын
Will Yamaha issue a software update so current owners can make use of the wasted screen space?
@marcusgeorge18255 ай бұрын
@@bradleybaker8894 unfortunately not. As they simply want to market the upgrade to make more money. A solid business plan to extend the life cycle of anything.
@chrissunde11045 ай бұрын
What became of John Burns?
@ehiggins74765 ай бұрын
We miss his wit
@yuriabmxr5 ай бұрын
One of the absolute most fun, best performing street bikes available today, also unfortunately the second ugliest motorcycle on the market (the MT - 10 exists…)
@FT-gv5no5 ай бұрын
What's ugly to you doesn't look ugly to sexy ladies. How can you talk bad about someone you love. I bet you have a nasty lady at home The mt-10 looks like a bug from the front
@yayoi15 ай бұрын
I would say it's less well-rounded with the sportier riding position (higher, more rearset footpegs and lower handlebars). But the buying demographic is young so it makes sense. What doesn't make sense is that ghastly headlight 🤐
@horizon92lee5 ай бұрын
I need!
@SonriseSunset5 ай бұрын
KTM990, "a little bit more expensive"? Try list price of $12,500USD vs MT09 at $10,599USD. IDK, that's $2K right there. Where is the quickshifter and tech controls...Ohhh free for 1500K (932miles )then you have to pay extra for the performance and track pack plus labor to program into your 990's brain. Hard to get any exact prices but I'm guessing you're looking at $1,100 to $1500 USD so yeah, try a little bit more expensive to the tune of $3000K + whilst the new MT09 gives you all of that at $10,599 (plus destination charge) which you also have to add to the 990 too but won't find unless you contact a KTM delear. I believe it's $575 for the MT09. So now comes the question; is the KTM990 Duke that much better? So far it, it doesn't seem so, unless you are looking for a track bike, or just prefer a super twin engine and KTM bikes. 2024 MT09 uber alles!!
@passthataxe5 ай бұрын
Screens are ugly. Bring back simple gauges.
@Gabriel-wu1wt5 ай бұрын
4th gen
@Mike_P6465 ай бұрын
The sides of the TFT are for warning lights
@ArNimbikerCR5 ай бұрын
La moto de mis sueños Saludos de Costa Rica #ArNimbiker
@cfetty47305 ай бұрын
Let's of sales hype. Just provide the list
@nickxatzh5 ай бұрын
Did yamaha have strengthen they cracked frames in this gen4 bikes!?!afterall great bike
@fabiena17875 ай бұрын
I have heard that they added some thickness in places, and also reworkds the engine mounts. I don't know if that is what you wanted to hear, I cannot remember when I heard it though.
@churchofbrap8765 ай бұрын
If that was really a problem there would have been a recall. Was there?
@adrianmartin40115 ай бұрын
It's the 4th Generation
@Erikoignasius46Ай бұрын
Troy Siahaan keturunan batak lae??
@Mike_P6465 ай бұрын
4th generation
@kuthuaspal76145 ай бұрын
Bang Troy Siahaan kapan pulang ke Medan....?
@JonnyAfrika5 ай бұрын
Oh.. my.... god.... 😢What have they done with the front light section... Looks terrible. Robocop’s Dog head.I own 2014 model for 6 years, old light looks much better.
@Carvetii5 ай бұрын
might have worse looking headlight but its light years ahead of your 2014 model
@Steve-motorcycles5 ай бұрын
😂 🤡😂🃏
@ehiggins74765 ай бұрын
Looks great to me
@JonnyAfrika5 ай бұрын
@@Carvetiilight years ahead? it’s just 10 years. Bike itself is almost the same... 😂
@Carvetii5 ай бұрын
@@JonnyAfrika its nowhere near the same bike
@WWA306785 ай бұрын
4th ...
@subzero-ku2wx5 ай бұрын
Did you notice how power is completely neutered in second gear until about 6.5k? It's borderline unsafe 😤 edit: USA market bikes.
@paulhope34015 ай бұрын
Strange... my Gen3 is mot like that.
@subzero-ku2wx5 ай бұрын
@@paulhope3401 It is, or it's already been tuned out. They all come like that, at least in the USA.
@paulhope34015 ай бұрын
@subzero-ku2wx I see, must be a US thing.. I'm from the UK and although peak power is reduced to aprox 80% in gears 1,2 and 6, its driveability is fine... having it dyno'd would obviously improve it though.
@sural895 ай бұрын
test ride it Tuesday (euro bike) and second gear feels "normal" it wakeup at around 4/5k but not as hard as the previous 09 , my gen 3 hit 80% of it's torque at only 3k and feel more punchy and angry......would love to see a dyno charts of this bike to understand what happen
@SirMountainpass5 ай бұрын
@@paulhope3401 First thing to do once the bike has properly been run in (after the 10‘000 km service). Done by an experienced Pro, the optimised fuelling without the stock limitations along the 13,25 line transforms the bike (for best results, swap the stock exhaust and air filter first for some performance items) considerably - you could call it a „day and night“ experience… My current, ultra-agile 2020 SP (weighing in at 181,5 kgs) with some „extra power“ and updated braided steel brake lines / track & road brake pads works extremely well on any mountain pass 🔥🏁 The gen4 SP will be a worthy successor next year, looking forward to converting again this bike into something special 😅
@leonardoatx319 күн бұрын
The best naked is sadly the ugliest .. those front lights are ridiculously ugly, just hire any Italian designer he will do much better
@MrWhitelightning735 ай бұрын
Nice bike but lousy color scheme
@RangerRyke5 ай бұрын
Why are all naked bikes today so damn ugly 😭
@marscruz5 ай бұрын
Because all the current bike designers grew up watching the _Transformers_ cartoons as kids. They think that look is attractive. It isn't.
@CraigSmith5685 ай бұрын
These screens on new bikes are just terrible. I don't even know why they even put a tach on them because they are absolutely useless. Nothing beats a basic dial with a needle. I am glad they finally put cruise on as standard. All the modes and settings are useless unless you plan on taking the bike to the track.
@bradleybaker88945 ай бұрын
I have a bike that I like the TFT. A 2022 Triumph Rocket 3. I got a triple black limited edition. Great machine for what it is. I need something to ride in town and on twisty state highways. The Rocket 3 does not excel there.
@s110398585 ай бұрын
Have seen pictures of broken frames with this bike..double minded now😢
@fabiena17875 ай бұрын
I have seen a review in which they explained that the frame was overall unchanged, but that there were some areas with increased thickness. It was from the European press launch, in Lanzarote. They have been briefed about the technical mods there. I don't know were to find this info officially, though.
@churchofbrap8765 ай бұрын
Yamaha would have a massive recall if this was really a problem, no?
@otlndsh5 ай бұрын
People posting broken frames without context and then asking "is this normal?" has to be some of the dumbest thing I've seen online. How can you know if something is normal when clearly the bike was involved in a serious accident? It's not like the frame breaks out of the blue as you're doing the speed limit.
@zeniazenin5 ай бұрын
guys you should blur the speedo or you are going to send the whole group to jail :) It is clearly not a closed course.