I Wouldn’t Own a Yamaha MT09 Today... (Here's Why)

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[@yammienoob]

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[@oscarpittman7924]

some of the same problems were with the mt-07 its might be because of the same spacer in the fork stem being too long

[@Leithboys]

Should I trust that bike on my channel

[@joris034]

Papa Yam, what about the MT-09 SP?! Love the vids, keep it up💪

[@BigCarKilla]

The world journalists agree. The MT09 is built to a price. Thanks to the Duke 7/890, Yamaha has pulled their socks up and the 2021 model now slots between those two bikes. But I found the torque and gearing of the MT09 were mint. That’s the only parts of the bike that I like when compared to my Street Triple R.

[@mediatool9596]

Dont like the MT-09 but love the MT-10? I dont get it

[@stephenp4563]

You sound like a man who'd appreciate the smoothness, the dependability, the predictability in the corners, and the general adultness, of a car.

[@yuriabmxr]

😂

[@danbev9313]

Lmao

[@toofastnobrakes]

Lol, it weird he hates on Honda bikes so much. Everything he seems to want fits a Honda bike

[@ChrisPBacon9]

@@toofastnobrakes i noticed a bunch of KZbinrs/reviewers blast Honda bikes for being "dull" despite not having many if any flaws. Like they hate bikes that just work 🧐

[@exothermal.sprocket]

For a Z900 you were on point, until "general adultness".

[@superturka]

I own a MT09 SP, and let me tell you, I cant even pull my riding pants up because of the excitement thrill every time I’m gonna ride.. yes its not a top speed machine but it makes you smile and forget all problems in your life.. ❤️

[@stephenspiteri_zunkus]

Same here buddy. My only mod was changing the stock handlebars to LSL X00. The stock ones just didn't feel right to me. Now it's as close to perfect as it could ever be for my type of riding.

[@susdad]

I can’t buy the SP in the 🇺🇸

[@wyteice89]

@@susdad why not?!

[@susdad]

@@wyteice89 2021 is the first year available in 🇺🇸. Just checked . Thanks

[@wyteice89]

@@susdad heck yeah man, I've got my eye on one. Might just have to make it happen.

[@xenogears5177]

I agree with a lot of what you said, but most people aren't going to be on a track. Most of us are only going to be on the street for 99% of our ride.

[@yammienoob]

Most guys going out to their 1st, 2nd or even 5th track day won't even notice the stuff I'm talking about anyways - so honestly it's still a great bike.

[@xenogears5177]

@@yammienoob Fair enough, I'm just thinking the suspension would be more than adequate for your average person wanting to have some fun in the twisties. Mind you i currently own an MT-07, which i heard the suspension is terrible. I find it to be pretty good for the street. I came from a 2015 ZX6R 636 with showa front forks before that. if you not trying to drag a knee around every corner, its fine.

[@blessedbethecurse]

@@yammienoob Exactly. I've got the XSR900 version of the bike, and it's an absolute fucking blast to ride. Brings me smiles all day long. I'm like the opposite of you; I'm not looking for a specialized tool for a specific use, I'm looking for a fun all-around street bike. I'm not looking to take it to the track - I mostly ride around town, commute occasionally, and take on the twisty backroads on the weekend at not even close to a 10/10 pace, and it's absolutely great for all those use cases. The XSR is torquey and fast and perfectly adequate in corners, and it makes me smile all day long all the places I take it. Maybe I'm not skilled or aggressive enough to feel the shortcomings of the suspension out on the backroads, but but you shouldn't be pushing it that hard on the street anyway, and like I said, I'm not using it as a track bike. I will say, I added some CRG shorty levers and they really improved the clutch and brake feel IMO.

[@leandrodominguez3733]

@@yammienoob get a MV Augusta...

[@robertsenzasca2387]

You say that because you never had a chance to ride a Mt09sp(Olhins shocks) steering dumper, Ecu remap, homemade exhaust, Brembo Corsacorta with metallic wiring, R1 discs. Abs interruptor for racing. I agree with some part of it..but calling it silly bike??? It feels silly when you say it's not worth to tune it for track..go and search the net to see what you can do with this superNaked beast. Mine has mt10s for breakfast. Rsv4- bmw s1000r - gxsr owners look at me as an alien and probably think it's not worth it blablabla I've spent around 3 weeks to tune it and approx 2000$.

[@MichaelMcCaulTX]

I dont like powerful bikes either. Every time I ride the fz09 I spill my soy latte on myself

[@TheG60528XiJinPing]

Relatable

[@sganzerlag]

LOL great way to subtly say it.

[@drewmoto732]

I’m always hovering the rear brake with that motor

[@yuriabmxr]

😂

[@zakwright982]

🤣

[@danorourke6933]

I know this is 3 yrs old and I cant figure how the heck I missed it! I bought my first of the mt09 family in 2017 when I was a young lad of 63yrs old. I am 70 now and have a 2021 mt-09 sp. If you cant understand the fun of a bike like the mt09 maybe you belong on a Grom? I have been on the road since 1970 and enjoyed every bike I've owned...never owned an HD, rode one for a couple of hours in the early 70's and that was enough. Maybe the MT doesnt push all the right buttons for you, but this thing takes fun to a whole new level. I can cruise around like a sane senior, with the cruise on and just enjoying the ride. When I get tired of that I just twist the throttle and instantly I'm a delinquent senior! I love it...most fun I have ever had on 2 wheels. Maybe when I'm old I'll get an HD...on second thought a URAL Patrol with a dummy machine gun mounted on the hack would be fun...bet I would be the only kid in town with one🤣

[@charafdablaq1707]

Who’s the dumb guy buying an MT09 for the track ? This video is just a catchy title nothing really useful

[@NGeese]

honestly, that's most of their content. Click bait.

[@hrld6892]

YN: I Wouldn’t Own a Yamaha MT09 Today... (Here's Why) TLDR: dont want one

[@Mark_106]

@@NGeese does anyone REAL actually win the Giveaway bikes?? a number of companies were caught out doing these giveaway's to actual people they know so the bike went straight back to them and they pocketed money from all entries etc i don't trust these online Giveaway's (not saying this ones a con or anything) just have personal reservations on them that's all.

[@willembaaij4098]

I’m 70 and just bought an MT 09, it keeps me alert😉

[@darinhampel4149]

I'm going to have to respectfully disagree, being 55 years old I have ridden a ton of different types of bikes. The 09 carves the turns well enough unless you're trying to be a street Rossi. It has a comfortable riding position. I put a Conti TKC 70 on the rear and Shinko trail master on the front, so it does extremely well on smoother dirt/gravel surfaces. Done a couple of 1000 mile rides through all types of terrain and the motocross feel of the ergos makes it super versatile for low speed maneuvers and light canyon carving. All in all, if you only have one bike, this is the one.

[@mushfiq1991]

cannot agree more. I do the same thing with my MT09, the versatility it provides and the pure psuedo mechanical feels that it provides is downright grin worthy.

[@Big1_]

He only said that the Mt09 "is to much for him and his ride style" That´s it, nothing more.

[@darinhampel4149]

He voiced his opinion, I voiced my opinion, nothing more.

[@er98ah]

Mt09 fits no category. It does nothing well except a ton of unusable power

[@JoeStanek-vu7rl]

​@@er98ahput down the bong... it does everything well.

[@daBlairSkii]

That truck backing up gave me so much anxiety

[@brycewood4109]

I think it’s funny that you’ve brought this up. I have a 2018 MT09 myself that I use to occasionally commute on. It really is A LOT of bike to handle every day, and regretfully I find myself incapable of NOT twisting the throttle like a maniac because the MT09 just begs for the rider to do so. Triple digit speeds are a near daily occurrence on the MT09, and the majority of the time i do wish I had just gotten the mt07 instead, because the 09 is just just so speed encouraging and it’s only a matter of time before my license gets taken away because of it. Great video, you hit the nail right on the head with this one

[@Gradeur]

kinda have the same relationship witrh mine! made me realise that i'd rather Ride fast a slow bike than ride slow a fast bike..

[@sqlb3rn]

get good at self control and managing risks or don't ride imo. I keep seein teddy bears and ribbons and shit on this light pole that split some kid in half running from the cops a few years back. guess he didn't want to go to jail and lose his license.

[@mushfiq1991]

same for me. one second Im doing 100kmph, then I want to pass a car and lo and behold its doing 180kmph :/ and it doesnt even feel like im going that fast

[@sunvalleyrider5790]

Sitting up I rarely speed just because of the wind, but when I tuck I find myself doing illegal speeds very quickly without even realizing

[@spacecoastz4026]

I love my 2015 FZ-09. Yeah, its has a lot of power, and at 68 years old I find myself doing things I probably shouldn't do. But for me its a fine street bike, not counting a sucky seat which I changed out. And with all the fun it provides, while giving me 50+mpg and low maintenance, its perfect for me. If you don't want all that power, then simply don't twist the throttle so much.

[@russellborn515]

"I like my bikes to be a little bit more turn-key"....says the man who built an adventure Grom!

[@rimaspazereckas2748]

You have to admit that was good for a laugh...

[@NGeese]

And who tore apart a Harley to build the engine up from the bottom end...

[@shaunoelofsen5136]

I tracked my MT-09 SP yesterday, and it was awesome with the suspension dialled in. Lots of 3rd and 4th gear power wheelies. It absolutely shined on a technical track. LOVE IT!!

[@MisterCheemf]

I absolutely love mine. Yes it gets squirrelly cornering hard, the throttle is still a little choppy in sport mode, and the top speed is only about 135. BUT, it's a torque monster for the size and price and it's an absolute blast to ride everytime I hop on it. It's very comfortable and I rode it from PA to the Tail of the dragon and back and had no complaints. I Would I like to have a Super Duke 1290 one day though.

[@mindwalkerpod]

Always appreciate a good conversation with the wind

[@FWLTYTWRS]

As a 22 year old with 2019 MT-09 as my second motorcycle, I totally agree with this video. Though I love the bike and sometimes still can't believe I was able to get one, I feel that subtle reminder of the plastics, the thrill over performance, the gosh darn hernia of a seat.... I definitely find myself tempted to try more, yet luckily with the help of the community I've been much more responsible, although maybe more because its a major mode of transportation and I can't afford to replace it..

[@TheG60528XiJinPing]

Living the dream man

[@rikstar.]

​@JetFlaps a minivan

[@timewrangler7631]

You guys get on a R1 and tell me this is not a good street bike ,than you ride a MT 09 and tell me it's not a good track bike, come on man!!

[@SpyLeb1]

Yes you should not listen two of their video back to back. Their opinion change bike to bike. It’s a business and they have to write content, they don’t do this - only - for fun.

[@megaconda07]

I mean he's saying it doesn't do it for him. He's not constantly cracking dank nooners, or getting crazy on the street (might be some history there) so this is more then what he needs. If he wants to go fast, which this does, he wants to do it on the track. Which this doesn't completely fit.

[@Fearless154]

I've owned a 2017 mt09 it's a really fun bike when you want to ride like an ass and hooning around but every time you want to ride seriously on the twisty road it leaves you to desire more because the bike doesn't feel well cornering in higher speeds or it's really annoying bike when you just want to get home after a long day or early in the morning because the throttle is too snappy and clunky it makes my 2017 rsv4 feel like a totally reasonable commuter bike. Mt09 is just a toy bike with cheap thrills it gets boring very fast and you left wanting something more dedicated and better, it's just like a supermoto bike it's fun to have it as a side bike but for everyday use it sucks.

[@matt7984]

Man y'all are so critical. It's good content calm down

[@SpyLeb1]

@@matt7984 I like his personality like many of us but there's a lack of consistency on some subject. We suggest some improvement on this topic. They give advice on what to buy it's not only chilling hanging with yammy about bikes, people make loans following his advices.

[@cecilotto504]

Hold on , he doesn't like the fact it doesn't carve corners like a SS bike but don't want an SS bike for the street . Make it make sense 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@nickywh1t3]

For the street I think it has more than what you need, not all of us want track days, I prefer grabbing my dirt bike and hitting some hills, but each to their own. As far as it goes the mt09 is a damn good bike in my opinion.

[@iconicRabona]

Upgrading from the 03 to the 09, 2nd year of driving a bike. I just want to feel the 09's torque and power to be happy.

[@ThrottleBackRubberDown]

I've had the opportunity to ride my brother's a few times. He had it remapped and put a better shock on the back...in the end, it is a great bike with more than enough power for the street...plenty of stomp...good for hooning it up for sure.

[@cepotfaceacolo451]

Upgrading from XJ6 to 2017 MT09, never regret it. This bike is so good looking, light and fun! I don’t like high speed but those accelerations...OMG

[@leewhaley552]

Man up. Ive owned mine for 7 years. Got rid of all my other bikes. BTW, Im 76.

[@jameswood8215]

I just bought a 2018 MT09 as a second bike to an Electra Glide police. I love the Yamaha for everything it does, that the Harley doesn't. I'm 58 and have been riding on the street for 40 years with LOTS of miles behind me. I rode sport bikes when I was in my 20s and wanted to recapture that sorta ride without having to be contorted and uncomfortable on an R6 or GSXR. the MT09 fits my needs perfectly... Okay, it's not a race bike with turn signals, and I'm good with that. But it does have better corning ability, and acceleration than the HD, which is why I bought it.

[@AntiParallali]

I'll take it if you don't want it :P

[@ChildishLumbino]

bro fr wtf 😂

[@ratchieleyvas720]

Can't wait til the 2021 MT09SP!!

[@ismaelbesharah1385]

The CP3 bikes are interesting. with the exception of the Tracer and to a lesser extent the Nikken, they are just unspecialized and kind of wild. Had the conversation with a guy who has a Vulcan and couldn't explain the purpose of my XSR900. Not great on the highway, too powerful for in town riding, not built for the track. And that's it's best feature. I can take my XSR anywhere and just do whatever and only have one bike.

[@timothyyoung8138]

Fellow xsr900 bro! Best purchase i ever made. Its fun, it commutes, it cruises, it drags and pulls twisties well. Hella fun bike.

[@mushfiq1991]

get a windshield. thats all I needed to do for highways, track can be tricky but still insane, fast and wild. this bike is exactly how I like my ladies xD

[@drewmoto732]

“I don’t see myself needing this much power in a street bike” See Turbo Busa lol

[@SimonTheSquid]

I'm currently working on getting my xsr900 to work for track and have to agree with most of what you're saying here. Would be a hell of a lot easier and more cost effective to just get a track focused bike but I still get a massive grin on my face when I pass a "proper" sports bike on my retro yammie lol.

[@timothyyoung8138]

Love my xsr900. I'd love to try a track, but i never mistook it as a track specialist.

[@DemetriosMallous90]

XSR900 owner here. I bought the XSR because I wanted a powerplant different than the traditional high-revving 4 cylinder and the triple in the MT09/XSR900 fit the bill. I also prefer the XSR's looks over the MT. Plenty of power to keep a smile on my face but I'd have to agree that on the street its irrelevant (but so are many sportbikes). However its nice to have that power on tap for those glorious open roads or wherever you can rip on it safely. The triple does make for an awesome streetlight to streetlight type of bike. XSR is also comfortable "enough" for the long rides but could benefit from a better seat no doubt. I've taken the bike through some twisties and it does just fine. I'd say for a first or second bike or someone who just wants ONE bike, you can't go wrong with the MT09/XSR900. The XSR900 is my first street bike purchase and so far I love the bike. I try and find every excuse I can to ride it. Also A mode is just stupid and should be avoided. I love death machines for some reason.

[@Supernicklas89]

I might agree in afew years, second year of having my licence and just bought myself a 2021 mt09 and I'm god damn loving it! Checking back in in 5 years when im on a 401 husky

[@hehexd69420]

One phrase to sum up this bike Jack of all trades, master of none

[@TheG60528XiJinPing]

Jack of all trades 🇯🇵MASTER OF TORQUE🇯🇵

[@yammienoob]

Definitely - it's a solid all around sportbike. It just doesn't do any one thing super well

[@redo1dr]

But better be versatile, than a fool in all but one

[@markbaum9615]

Master wheelie machine.... Traction control off ... B mode to tame fueling.... Ready for balance point all day if you're a skilled rider ....its all about proper throttle modulation....

[@yuriabmxr]

Master of engine character. It's not quantifiable, but you know it when you ride it.

[@collinherold8047]

Yammie's next bike is gonna be an old honda trail 50.

[@2wheelhooligan649]

Meet a dude that has owned 43 Motorcycles. He said the Fz09 was in his top 5. Different strokes for different folks in the end. I like building it to my specifications. I feel the power is worth the attention to the suspension and add where Yamaha is not.

[@thejkyle]

Happy Saturday folks!

[@lllucky13]

condems it for the track but does a video on the highway haha

[@VolkanMemisoglu]

Ok with that. I mean standart MT-09, but MT-09 SP Edition is one of the best bikes Yamaha has ever produced. Öhlins solves suspension related problems on that SP one.

[@AuroraDarkStar]

Of course, you are welcome to your opinion, but the MT-09 just ticked all of the boxes for the bike I wanted. I was trying to talk myself into getting a KTM 890, Streetfighter V2, or a Street Triple. Performance wise they are great, but I just couldn't bring myself to buy one with all of the quality control issues. It leads me to think they don't know what they're doing or how to build a quality bike. I've owned Yamahas before, and they've earned my trust. One month in, the seals are still tight, bolts are all there, fluids remaining in their resevoirs, and it's a joy to ride.

[@mmaaddict78]

"I've grown beyond that type of riding." Wants to buy and EXC and curb hop 🙄

[@TRpvd]

MT-09 owner here. I actually agree with most all of your points. I’m looking to get back into something European next year, but I have really, really enjoyed my time with the MT. One thing that I think gets especially overlooked when talking about bike power is how relative that can be when you take rider weight into account. I’m not here to say that it doesn’t have plenary of power, but as a 270ish lb guy, the power and torque feels very comfortable for me under daily riding. I can image lopping off 100+ lbs would make a pretty big difference though.

[@sunvalleyrider5790]

As a 170lb MT 09 owner, I will say it's still reasonable enough to commute on, but goodness it will try to kill you if you give it the chance. 30-100mph is just stupid😅

[@alvhix]

I completely understand your point about wanting something more refined, it's fair. There are different type of riders, some prefer brute power, others prefer a more refined machine that can bring joy riding at a slower pace.

[@TheModernwarfare96]

Do you think the changes to the 2021 MT09 make it a better overall bike? The new Triumph Trident looks like it's the perfect street bike, good price, good suspension, not insane power.

[@chrishart8548]

Trident power seems a bit weak. And we don't know how good the suspension is yet. We know they saved money on the brakes (2 pot calipers)

[@OHWOW86]

How funny this guy said it’s not for me but today he’s on a mt09 sp and having the time of his life so yammi do we have a sweet spot here?

[@dougiequick1]

"Quality of performance" is your beef? But you are riding the OLD ONE so its not even fair

[@milan_2k45]

Bro, I love this bike, it takes me from work and back home with a big smile on my face, and it does the twistys just fine if I ride within comfort level

[@kristofzielinski3467]

I don't get it, does every powerfull bike need to perform great on track? No, I like to have a shit ton of power on for example the highway but I dont need any track performance stuff.

[@stormbytes]

A "review" with a track-biased/slant is not really a review. Basically you're saying "Uhh it's an OK bike but, I'm into track bikes and this is not it". If you're going to review bikes, leave your personal preference for the end, as a mention. Don't make it the central opening theme of the review. Its needlessly detracting.

[@NilupulMalinda]

I love my 2021 MT-09. But I couldn't agree more with the statement you made about when you're on a MT-09, it makes you wanna do stupid stuff and act on bad impulses. I really have to watch myself when I'm riding because I feel like I become somewhat reckless on my MT-09. Maybe I shouldn't own one either. But I can't let it go because it's such a fun bike.

[@dennismau9103]

I have been riding motorcycles for 50 years and I have had over twenty different motorcycles, including a GSXR 1000, Yamaha Vmax and a ZX14, and I totally agree with your assessment of the MT09. I have ridden the MT03, MT07, MT09 and the MT10. The suspension is poor on the MT09. the brakes are weak, it doesn't handle that well, it shifts hard, it is plasticky and the power delivery reminds me of a twin cylinder Cushman. With experience, you grow out of motorcycles like the MT09. The MT07 and MT09 are for kids that like to speed from stoplight to stoplight and do wheelies. I am like you in that I prefer a more sophisticated motorcycle. People buy the MT09 because it gives them the most HP for their buck, but the more you ride, the more you realize it is boring to go fast all the time and having fun is not all about how fast you can go from 0 to 60mph. I know I had a ZX14, and it was actually a quite boring motorcycle because you could never use the power unless you were on an open road with no cops around, and that is hard to find anymore. You don't need 115HP, especially in the city. You tend to use the power, and suddenly you are going 100MPH in a 60MPH zone without even realizing it, and pretty soon your drivers license is in jeopardy. You may not get caught at first, but eventually you will. I know!

[@natebailey3454]

What bike would you recommend that would not get boring? General question… could you give me a few options to research?

[@dennismau9103]

@@natebailey3454 Z900 or MT09

[@blueskystailwind544]

Same story for me, zx14r was insane and eventually your walking ,that sort of power ruins you for every other bike ,love the torque and weight of the mt09 2023.

[@DRock2k6]

You dislike the Mt-09 for all the right reasons. I still love mine, but you definitely hit the mark on it. Cheap, reliable, and it checks a lot of boxes if you're willing to tinker with it a little.

[@cassin11]

I own and MT-09 (and R1250GS, previously owned gsxr 600,r6, 790). I've been wanting to get rid of it virtually every after ride since 2015 when I got it for 6K until recently. It has 32K miles now. What I hate about it is corner entry, mid corner, exit. So I agree with you 100% but I will tell you that you can dial in this bike to improve corner performance which involves fabricating dog bones yourself because you can't buy the proper length in the market. Anyway, the reason this bike is still in my garage is it taught me how to tune bike's geometry and suspension and nothing beats this machine in the market in the same price point.

[@FlowJim]

Im interested can you give me details on how dog bones work (i saw a dogbone lowering kit 30mm on lazada) and tune suspension. I changed my gen1 mt09(2016) rear suspension into yss topline and it feels alot better but i used it on the track today and i feel theres still a missing piece to my setup. Thanks in advance!

[@Schlabbeflicker]

As someone who rides an FJR1300 on the street, WHY NOT have the power and torque? I can still split lanes comfortably. I have optionality to get ahead of hazards. I can ride VERY comfortably at freeway speeds. Sure, it's nice to have a lighter, more flickable bike, but since I'm not off-roading it, the weight doesn't really matter to me.

[@SamIAm-kz4hg]

I love that one of the reasons is "too much torque and horsepower".

[@MrRui33333]

kkkkkkkkkkk ,... kkkkkkkkk,..por isso se chama mt 09,.. master of torque ,...kkkkk

[@johnsnelson7192]

You and I see motorcycles in a very different way. I used to be into cruisers and am starting to change my mind. I'm now leaning towards adventure bikes. I'm really liking the new Triumph Tiger 850 sport. It would have to be loaded with all options for my tastes. I commute and go sight seeing and go shopping on my bike. I NEVER need a race bike.

[@shift3389]

Appreciate the honest review

[@mikehuber9433]

At 10:10 "I generally feel like I have grown beyond that sort of riding. I really don't find myself wanting a ton of torque, a ton of power for the street". Then in 2021 he gets his hands on a Kawasaki Z H2... And... giggles like a school girl with dirty little secret. Have we really grown? Have we? Really? lolz

[@skyscout11223]

As a previous track racer and gymkhana racer who likes to commute on a bike, I agree with you 100%. If paying extra time and money for the repairs is not a problem, European bikes do feel more premium. Having said that, I still choose XSR900 as my commute bike. I don't like unreliable bikes for commuting, and I don't like to keep multiple bikes in my garage.

[@vinneh8169]

Passed my msf course today! Ready for that turbo busa now. 😁

[@seriouslyson6559]

The SP will take care of that suspension issue you mentioned.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

2021 SP will cover all the other shortcomings. It's basically 90% new bike from the ground up.

[@sethglenn9022]

To get the MT-09 to compete with the other, newer bikes like the 890 you would need to spend nearly 2000 on suspension, 300 on a ecu flash, 500 on a master cylinder(s) lines and pads, and other odds and ends to get it to the level of refinement you get from the new Ducati Monster, the KTM, Street Triple. But, as it sits and at it's price, I still think it's extremely competitive for the amount of power you get and rock solid reliability. If you spent the same money to upgrade the MT-09 to compete with the other boutique brands, you might as well buy an MT-10 or CB1000R which already have nice suspension, cruise, and the soundtrack no one could ever hate on. Not to mention the Japanese reliability.

[@Diff727]

What about the SP model for 2021

[@sethglenn9022]

@@Diff727 that would be a solid contender imo. especially for the price. if you can tolerate the looks

[@ChrisSmith-yl3vd]

Yeah I have a Ducati scrambler and it’s about all I need around town. It’s fun, playful, comfortable and can easily do highway speeds if need be.

[@Sean-yt1jn]

Im curious what you think about the MT-09 redesign, its still pretty much the same idea obviously but seems like its really been refined and made into something more accessible to people who dont just wanna hoon but still like that "master torque" essence

[@tristansmith2553]

Fu.. man your 28, thought you were mid 30's, only got a couple years on myself and I am only just doing my DAS, COVID permitting. Keep up the good work man

[@johnthomas2485]

He just seems like he's a middle age grump lol

[@Jamie-cz2xu]

The dude is absolutely right about everything on the MT09. The suspension isn't great, it isn't a premium feeling bike, its not necessarily comfortable. But it is loads of fun. Cant beat how much fun you can have on this bike. Power is always there and always enjoyable to jump on the gas and let it rip. So it depends what you want a bike for. Do you want a bike for long cruises on the highway? Do you want to do mostly local riding? Do you wanna commute?

[@tersy9862]

I own that exact bike and I agree with your comments about it not being very 'refined" but the power definitely isn't too much for the street that's what makes it fun.

[@Winterstick549]

Lame opinion starts at 3:00 If he prefers track bikes, then test an R1.

[@dougiequick1]

Whatever you do dont just say this is the OLD model not the current MT09 ...in fact just ignore giving the year and the date even though obviously this video was put out in 2021.....you guys are less than honest is my take on ya because obviously the latest year model MT09 is virtually a brand new model compared to the ones you are ragging on ....Yamaha totally redid most of the engine including mapping and ride by wire, the frame is all new as well as swingarm and most other things....so WHY on earth would you dis on "the MT09" AS IF there are not multiple much different year models?? WITHOUT even mentioning that??? Seriously? Shame on you

[@terrydavis4080]

To compare this bike to a Track bike is your biggest problem. I had to stop watching after that. If your not going to review a bike based on what its designed for then you are just wasting time and space on youtube.

[@papatorr3669]

Yammie waxes eloquently philosophically about progressing through motorcycles and settling into middle ground motorcycle.

[@canada_rye]

It's the perfect city bike, takes off from the line faster than anything around, and it takes the hard bumps with ease. I do admit the twisties get a little sketchy with the stock rear shock, but man do I love it. Good points though and nice video!

[@mushfiq1991]

trust me with enough practise and trail breaking , those twisties feels like home for this bike. Wont deny I had some close calls but I shouldnt have rode this bike like I did on the R6

[@anthonypoltes7413]

Ok so basically a bike thats not designed for racing sucks at racing. This is a hooligan/ cruising bike, you want race? Get a crotch rocket

[@joshr5390]

yeah dude i feel the same way. i've had all forms of bikes over the years and I feel like 80 hp ish is a good number for a general everyday bike.

[@jacobcherchio4471]

As a short guy that can't safely stand up an R6, I feel like the MT-09 is the perfect bike. Similar power but in a package I can actually manage. A bike I can somewhat do anything with.

[@Javier-ie8kp]

Great viewpoint man 👍

[@Mototron712]

Bro…..all your reviews are about “is the bike race ready” not everyone takes their bike to the track dude

[@yarilich544]

Does Yamaha make bikes well, with good fit and finish? If so, how do they also make cheap bikes? Do they just outsource more stuff for that? I'm just curious

[@kalebborders4004]

I'm so glad u did this vid I'm looking for my 2 ne motorcycle now and this was on the list still is just lower ranked plasicky I ride a Vulcan 900 crusier but what to get out of cruisers and my buddy has a Vulcan s it's plastics feeling too

[@jasonstepler4613]

Completely disagree! I think you’re expecting it to be something it’s not.

[@bobbybackmarker9665]

Honest review! I rode this model was wholly unimpressed with the handling and throttle response. Nice to see a bigger youtuber giving an honest opinion! Perhaps Yamaha have tried harder with the upcoming model.

[@stuarthall2523]

This bike wasn’t built for the track. You’re missing the point of it.

[@shadow16810]

Hey Yammie what about the 2021-2022 model? New motor, lots of new stuff, they say its 90% new! Have you tried it? Could you make a vid about it?

[@mikenofi281]

I just sold my 2019 MT-09 to upgrade to the 2022 MT-10. I agree with your assessment. I was hyped during the first six months and then began noticing the lackluster suspension, brakes, and quirky throttle response. It also handles poorly at high speeds. The MT-10 overcomes many of these complaints, but it also has similar issues (to a much lesser degree) as the MT-09 compared to more expensive hyper-naked sport bikes. However, one must remember that the MT-09 targets younger, less experienced riders who are mainly interested in raw, unrefined performance. At the MT-09 price point, it is an excellent value for your dollar.

[@vHiqhlight]

Isnt the mt-10 pretty much the same bike besides the engine?

[@mikenofi281]

@@vHiqhlight No, they are very different bikes. The MT-09 is more like a young, untamed colt. The MT-10 is heavier and more planted at high speeds. It handles better in the twisties. Very predictable, and the suspension is much more compliant. The MT-09 was very twittery in the corners, and the brakes and the suspension left a lot to be desired. The motors are very different (4 vs. 3 cylinders), especially the sound, extra hp, and torque. There are some aspects of the MT-09 that I do miss my MT-09. It is a better urban commuter than the MT-10. It is much lighter and easier to flick around. It also got better fuel mileage--45 vs. 36 mpg.

[@trentstuckey8971]

Yams. You check out the service intervals on a KTM 350excf yet? Cool bike. Super fun. But it’s got a dirt bike service schedule. Oil changes and valve checks are frequent. They’re not horribly difficult to do. But it’s work.

[@jimos9878]

Serious question: How do I know if I should get a bike that I like, IF the manufacturers don't allow any test drives with motorcycles? (due to insurances not covering them in general) How do I decide if it's a good bike, or if I really want it and it would be a good choice? Other than sitting on it, getting a feel of the seating position, controls, if you don't ride it and check the engine and all stuff, how do you decide? Now, I'm talking about getting one for your main long-life bike. I got one now, low cc and power just for my first bike to get comfortable on this experience, but I find it difficult to decide on a new one (eventually) as a long-duration bike purchase. Do I try and find a friend or something that have them? Not ideal at all

[@SoulReaper599xx]

In a world of street triple, I wudnt own an mt09

[@levishelley8018]

I haven't seen any gsx s750 on the Channel. Any insights on it? Haven't heard about it much but I see one online at a good price.

[@ealvarez9541]

@yammie noob, I didn't listen to you. I changed out the rear shock, installed woodcraft clip ons, set the front sag slightly lower than spec then dialed in the rebound and the bike handles way better. Still not perfect bc of the short wheel base but fun enough for some track days

[@nathandurand6422]

I just purchased a 2020. what i noticed most in the video is that your just riding it and thats kinda all want to do on it. I think your review is geared towards folks that want to take it past that level of just touring and enter the performance side. I can agree that the short wheel base, torquey motor and sub par suspension will make this a challenge. I appreciate your channel tremendously and its just your opinion. I think is a fun bike and fun is all that matters.

[@SludgedB]

Correction, you aren’t a squid anymore and so the MT-09 wouldn’t want YOU today.

[@DariusPiggott]

Okay then who do you think this bike is for? I have a DR650 right now that I commute with, I want something faster but I don’t want to hunch over like an R6. I thought an MT09 would be a good choice.

[@yming4561]

Hi , just curious if you compare MT-09 vs Trident 660, I know is different class but trying figure which is a better buy to keep for a while. Like the view and input.

[@_cpdchua]

I wonder what Yammie would choose as a proper "street bike"... CB650 or MT-09?

[@brianbeach2071]

Great review. I haven't ridden a MT-09, but I recently put a few hundred miles on a XSR900. I thought the XSR was surprisingly comfortable after riding 400 miles in a day. Yes, it has more power than I need for street riding, but how much power you need is a matter of personal preference. Handling wasn't great, considering the light weight. Sound is another matter of preference. To me it sounds a lot like an old Detroit Diesel. Kind of cool but not my favorite.

[@kashsres1064]

“Silly” is yammie noob’s favorite word.😆 He said silly 2358 times in this video alone.

[@aleyvaa]

Had 5 different bikes and I really like my xsr for my only bike. It's fun, I can go long distance and I can commute. If I had money for a couple bikes I agree I wouldn't get it, but for a do it all bike, it's perfect for me.

[@werehogrider53167]

I would love to see him revisit this with the 2021 MT-09 SP with all the new tech and suspension upgrades, I feel like that's going to make this old gen 09 look even more outdated and silly

[@garrettrainey7211]

Please Papa Yamms!

[@jaydenlatimer4516]

My 2020 looks so much better yours looks like a cyclops 🤢🤮

[@SuperAdventureR1301]

I don't care how much better it is, you wouldn't catch me dead on one of those new gross looking MT-09's. Absolutely ruined the look.

[@droppingpins6244]

Head to head comparison with 890 duke r. Do the duke r, we want to see the scalpel!!!!!!!!!!

[@mindwalkerpod]

110hp 380lb wet weight, I'd love to see yammies reaction. It kind of out-hooligans the mt09, I'd imagine

[@andreo2459]

Yes pls

[@donniep8996]

Yeah what he said

[@lukejamesquinn]

The 890 r is a cut above the current 09

[@Fearless154]

The 890r is one of the best middle-weight nakeds I've ever ridden. It's almost a perfect bike for someone who loves this category. It takes corners like it's being guided on rails while still being stupid hooligan machine anytime you want it. I loved it even more than the new superduke and almost sold my tuono 1100rr.

[@barracuda017]

I have a 21 street triple that I'm very happy with, love the ride, handling, just about everything, and have been looking for a 2nd bike, something different from the strip, something with character, that's simple, fun, easy to ride, and landed on the Ducati scrambler, probably the icon. Nice, easy going, fun, nimble ....... but then I read so many reviews about how crazy hot it is riding in warm/hot climate - I'm in Tucson, AZ-- so I started thinking about the mt-09, drove one few months ago at yamaha event, thought it was exactly what you describe in this video --- fun, hooligan, what a pisser, but I think I will get bored with that pretty quick. you have desert sled, same 803 engine as scrambler icon, what is your experience with the heat,,, thanks

[@bogdancampean5178]

Hey there. I watch u from Romania and I love your videos. Keep it up, u are great ;)