2025 80-112 mm Alpine Touring Ski Comparison with SkiEssentials.com

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@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
Hey Skiers! Wish we had more skiing footage for this one, but filming touring skis is challenging for several reasons. Also, if you feel like you're seeing more motion blur than usual, you are, it's not your eyes playing tricks on you. The shutter speed on the camera was off slightly. You may not notice anything. Anyways, enjoy!
@Ice_Coast_Ski
@Ice_Coast_Ski Ай бұрын
Guys. Thanks so much for all the hard work on this! Looking forward to the binding comparison.
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
You bet!
@joehumphries_
@joehumphries_ Ай бұрын
Ahh thanks for doing this one guys! Love seeing the different approaches to shape, profile, weight, and intention across this category.
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@christopheblanchi4777
@christopheblanchi4777 Ай бұрын
These skis comparisons are really useful. Thanks!
@Gmonayy189
@Gmonayy189 Ай бұрын
They really are!! Especially video style. Raw thoughts, versus methodical written reviews.
@hansi26
@hansi26 Ай бұрын
The Backland 109 is incredible, so fun that you are stoked about the ski!
@Nico-bv6hi
@Nico-bv6hi Ай бұрын
Just bought it. Curious where did you end up mounting it? And you like it?
@hansi26
@hansi26 Ай бұрын
@@Nico-bv6hi i mounted recommended. And im really happy about that :)
@Nico-bv6hi
@Nico-bv6hi Ай бұрын
@@hansi26 thanks alot dude! Happy winter 🙃
@petemcmath
@petemcmath Ай бұрын
Finally! Been waiting for this one 🙏
@nicholassimpson2290
@nicholassimpson2290 Ай бұрын
As always incredible overview :raised-hands:
@YouLorenzOrobico
@YouLorenzOrobico Ай бұрын
Amazing comparison and overview! As a ski tourer since 35 years in the Italian and Swiss Alps, these days I tend to live with a 2-ski quiver. One "light" ski around 90mm for general long missions, spring touring, serious staff - K2 Wayback, Kastle TX, Salomon MTN... One "fun" ski around 100mm from the freeride segment for winter powder touring - Elan Ripstick 96/102, Bent Chetler 100...
@robc.8269
@robc.8269 Ай бұрын
Hey guys, I skiied a Katana for a few seasons & loved them. Towards the end of the season I took them in to get a spring tune up for a road trip & got a call from the shop. I had broken one of the skis under foot, both edges were blown out. But I got a few really good seasons out of them & bought the Blaze 106's. Which I really like, but not near as fast as the Katanas.
@robc.8269
@robc.8269 Ай бұрын
I bought the Revolt 114's for my need for speed.
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
I feel the need!
@69MultiDiesel
@69MultiDiesel Ай бұрын
Thanks for this guys !!
@jdthood
@jdthood Ай бұрын
It's pretty funny when Bob says "yeah" to what Jeff has said and then goes ahead to say the exact opposite. Jeff: We should be able to get through these quickly because touring skis are all used in the same way. Bob: Yeah, this *shouldn't* go quickly because with touring skis there are important trade-offs. Jeff: These skis are more similar than all-mountain skis. Bob: Yeah, there are wildly different kinds of touring (requiring different kinds of skis) whereas on-piste skiing is on-piste skiing.
@Marvellos85
@Marvellos85 Ай бұрын
Love your videos! Greetings from germany.
@cams3425
@cams3425 Ай бұрын
Always appreciate SE ski reviews! Great info shared. I tour on the Atomic Backland 100s with MTN pure bindings for super lightweight (to me) and yet fun on the downhill and really does well on powder and can carve an edge on really firm snow. Highly recommend. Really love the options you guys presented and will add to my quiver at some point. Thank you!
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
I have always been impressed by that ski and always will be. The new 102s are an excellent progression from the 100.
@Nico-bv6hi
@Nico-bv6hi Ай бұрын
Oooh yeeees! Great video as aleays guys! Just for me: i don't really like the conversations over the price tag on every ski. I felt like sometimes its more about the price than the actual ski and i didnt really like that. I get it that people want to know the price but i feel like i can just google it or whatever. Im watching your videos because i really appreciate your knowdlege und you both seem like very happy while doing all this and that shows! So yeah, have a great day :)
@kokibr91
@kokibr91 Ай бұрын
One of my favourite categories, great! Now whats left is Touring bindings. After a season with Zero G 95 I would say your observations are spot on. It is a very stiff ski and combined with a pure tech binding and a rock hard Technica Zero G Pro you get a harsh ride. Uphill is awesome of course, used to tour with Bent100, Shift and Hawx XTD and the difference is night and day. The difference down the hill is also night and day though. That long radius is really weird the first time, it happened exactly what you said, you tip the ski and lose balance because they keep going straight 😅
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
It's all about balance, I suppose!
@TheWanaka1
@TheWanaka1 11 күн бұрын
Volkl Rise Beyond - V Werks version - coming next season!
@hugosauve8554
@hugosauve8554 Ай бұрын
Love my Katana V-Werks, one of the most unique skis out there!
@fadet0green
@fadet0green Ай бұрын
Thanks guys! Faction is definitely missing...
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
Yeah, we don't have any Agents in the building right now. We covered a lot in our Ski Test. Sometimes it can be challenging just making sure everything is in the building for everything we do. I agree it's a miss.
@benjaminbrown7580
@benjaminbrown7580 Ай бұрын
Great video thank you!
@fran7en
@fran7en Ай бұрын
Bob and Jeff! I watch almost all of your videos. Nobody covers details quite like you guys! Thank you so much for your masterclasses. I have a question, I have a Backland 100 and a Blaze 94 for outbounds/inbounds respectively and love both. I'm in the market for a powder ski that can do both (hybrid) and from everything you've said over the last few seasons, I'm between the Atomic Backland 109 and the Volkl Blaze 114. I am a slower skier who likes to turn, not a charger. Want something agile, light, and will use inbounds 80% of the time. So the ski also needs to be at least average at handling chop, higher trafficked resort areas, and windblown Westcoast ice weirdness. Is the Backland too light and does putting a heavy Duke PT help with the weight and composure and make the ski more "hybridy"?
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
Thanks so much! I (Bob) have been more impressed with the composure of the Blaze 114 than the Atomic, while Jeff feels the other way. I do think the Blaze has more to offer in terms of both stability and driftiness, as the profile is a lot flatter than that of the Atomic. That said, if you're in bounds 80% of the time, that camber comes in handy, as does the narrower waist width. I'd say you're getting at least average handling while the Blaze's performance bumps up in that department. The Duke is a pretty hefty binding, it will not affect the downhill capacity in any negative way, only positive. You'll notice it on the uphills.
@ehyojono
@ehyojono Ай бұрын
When you got to the Draco Freebird consider the ATK Freeraider tour binding and you'll crush the mountain in performance, speed, and weight.
@milesfrussell
@milesfrussell Ай бұрын
I have this exact setup as my midwinter touring set up.
@snow_e
@snow_e Ай бұрын
I can't decide between the Corvus and the Draco! They both appeal to me in different ways. I love charging, I love jumping, I love techy skiing, it's hard to pick... I like the weight for the downhill performance, with some ATK pins on them. Which ski do you think has the edge in tighter scenarios, no fall zone couloirs/skimo sort of terrain? I do a lot of that here in the Canadian Rockies. Also got to get the WNDR Alpines on the wall next time! Thanks for an awesome video
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
The Draco just has much more of a modern freeride style to it while the Corvus is more traditional. The tail of the Corvus will hold up better in sketchy situations, but I'd rather be on the Draco in wider open spaces where creativity and mobility is a big factor.
@RaulTT1812
@RaulTT1812 Ай бұрын
Would have liked to see the Rossignol Escapers 105 and 97 up there. Few reviewers have looked at them.
@AndrewSteavpack
@AndrewSteavpack Ай бұрын
I demo’d the DPS Pagoda Tour 106’s last winter for a resort lap and I was blown away at how well they skied and how light they are. They’re very much not in my budget but I wouldn’t hesitate to buy a used pair. They had no chatter, playful and confident feel that I could confidently put over edge and go faster than any other true touring ski I’ve used at Eldora. I just don’t quite understand why their feel and construction is so unique compared to the rest of the market.
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
They just do a great job by sourcing higher quality materials. We talk about this a lot--cars are all made from metal, plastic, rubber, and cloth, but a Lexus feels a lot different than a Ford. Same with skis--they're all some combination of wood, metal, carbon, plastic, and fiberglass, but some skis just feel different.
@PatrickHennessey1764
@PatrickHennessey1764 Ай бұрын
I would love to hear your recommendation for a ski for big days in the backcountry for steep, technical and firm conditions, but also the ability to navigate steepish tight treens on a run out. I am curious because when I think steep and technical I think longer turning radius less tail rocker for better edge confidence, but when you reduce that angle of the slope and add tight trees I would think those attributes make it far less agile and maneuverable. Just curious your thoughts :)
@PatrickHennessey1764
@PatrickHennessey1764 Ай бұрын
Also curious the difference between M-tour 99 (labeled unisex) and M-tour 100. They appear to have significant weight differences
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
I think the Black Crows skis make good sense here, the Navis as a good mid-option with the Corvus being a stronger setup. You do pay for it a bit with weight, but that's what gets you the stability and technical prowess. The M-Tour 99 and 100 do feature different builds and shapes, following the change in the M-Pro series, so I'm not surprised that they have different weights.
@SkiForums
@SkiForums Ай бұрын
I wish Volkl would make a heavy resort version of the VWerks Katana. I enjoy Katana (now Mantra) 108s, but I loved the 2014 full rocker Katanas.
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
Yeah, not much out there that fits that old Katana build and shape anymore.
@superboost1574
@superboost1574 Ай бұрын
The most relevant to me!
@kurcensk
@kurcensk Ай бұрын
Yeah, interesting how philosophy changes over the ocean :) For this season will be touring with Atris and ATK Tech bindings..
@Ca_milo_G
@Ca_milo_G Ай бұрын
I'm owner of locator 104 here at Chile F love it with atk freeraider
@idteamtube
@idteamtube Ай бұрын
I noticed the Elan series is not making the cut. Has the quality gone down in comparison to others?
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
They are just fine, but the Ripstick Tour models didn't sell well for us so we aren't bringing them in for sale for 24/25.
@jamess.7261
@jamess.7261 Ай бұрын
in the description, the armada locator is listed as K2 locator
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
Fixed. Thank you!
@ВладиславКононов-л5н
@ВладиславКононов-л5н Ай бұрын
​@@SkiEssentialsand black camox without crows.
@Mecholable
@Mecholable Ай бұрын
No Faction skis in the powder comparison and still nothing here?!?!?!
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
No Agents readily available unfortunately. We did have the Faction Le Mono in the Powder Comparison, but yeah, we don't have any of the Faction "4" models in-house. Would love to have them in there in the future!
@kandtgraphic
@kandtgraphic Ай бұрын
Atomic nailed the 109! Such a good ski!
@tjb8841
@tjb8841 Ай бұрын
The Wayback 98 is one of the looser, more rockered AT skis under 100 mm. That’s why I got it. I have a QST 98 for my inbounds ski and was looking for something more similar, for that looser, more pivoty skiing style. It’s VERY different from the previous generations. Of the top of my head Favtion Machine Mini and Line Vision are some of the only others which have deep tail rocker lines, and low camber.
@SnowsailorB
@SnowsailorB Ай бұрын
It sounds like you can achieve similar things with the Locator 112 and Draco despite different ski designs. How do they compare in terms of powder, variable snow performance and skiing stance?
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
The taper of the shovel in the Locator and the straighter cut make it a surfy and drifty ski but not a lot of playfulness. You could use the Draco as a full-on resort powder ski and be totally happy, even when conditions degrade. I would not say the same about the Locator, which I find to be a powder-exclusive product.
@SnowsailorB
@SnowsailorB 4 күн бұрын
@@SkiEssentials On smooth snow surfaces (spring corn) does the Locator or Draco carver better?
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials 3 күн бұрын
@@SnowsailorB Draco. Far more substance here.
@SnowsailorB
@SnowsailorB 3 күн бұрын
@@SkiEssentials Thank you, that is interesting. I was expecting the locator to carve better due the rearward mount point and „flater“ tail. Is the tail of the Draco not washing out at the exit of turns?
@michizer0
@michizer0 Ай бұрын
It’s funny, like the Dps most and the backlands least. Quite the opposite of Jeff‘s taste. Don’t know why that is. Great video guys!
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
Different skiers like different flavors! That's why there's 24 skis lined up here--likely a unique favorite for 24 different skiers!
@Poppop-od9dx
@Poppop-od9dx Ай бұрын
Hi guys ! Thank you for this nice presentation ;-) Question regarding the Backland 102 (179cm) and Locator 104 (178cm)... For all purpose in backcounty ski (little powder to spring snow) any recommandations ? How do they compare from each other as they are very similar in weight, size, core construction, shape... ? Thanx !
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
The Backland has more pep and snap to it while the Locator is smoother and more drifty. I'd rather ski pure powder in the Locator while the Backland is more of a complete and well-rounded ski. If it's firm and technical at all, the Atomic would be my choice.
@tjb8841
@tjb8841 Ай бұрын
you mention the Wayback 106 having less rocker and the Locator having more. In my experience (with the Wayback 98 and Locator 112), that’s not quite accurate. Yes the Locator has more tail splay, but the Wayback has much deeper (tail) rocker lines, and far less camber, leading to an overall looser feeling.
@furpii
@furpii Ай бұрын
How do you like the Locator 112? U use it purely for touring?
@tjb8841
@tjb8841 Ай бұрын
@ yes, just touring. I suppose if you had a dee- day inbounds, it would be fine too. If the snow is deep and soft, a super light ski is not a problem. There are good reviews on powder and blister. Better than I could tell you from a few hundred feet of descending I did on them (2 days) in powder, and a few laps on groomers to get used to them.
@bobk5872
@bobk5872 Ай бұрын
Another banger comparison vid fellas! I would think the length of the ski is "essential" when you give us a ski weight, even more important in this touring comparison. Otherwise things get misleading as proven with your Waybacks which should be switched in your wall ordered by weight.
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
We discuss in the video that the length disparity exists and that it should be noted by viewers. The Wayback, for example, we either had in a 186 or a 172 and felt that the longer one was a better fit here.
@ayrtondick
@ayrtondick Ай бұрын
The “Carve-Touring” category deserves serious consideration! Which skis would you nominate?? (assume downhill performance is more important than light weight)
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
On this wall, I think you have to include the DPS 100 and 105 due to the full carbon stiffness. You could also go a bit heavier to more of an alpine ski like the Head Kore series. Those are lighter than some of the skis on the Crows side of the wall and are considerably better carvers.
@colcasey3853
@colcasey3853 Ай бұрын
That katana looks absolutely amazing
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
It almost doesn't feel like a ski when you're holding it--super interesting design and build.
@mikeanderson3703
@mikeanderson3703 Ай бұрын
Maybe think about adding Voile skis next time.
@themattiproject
@themattiproject 6 күн бұрын
Great video. Currently deciding between the M-Tour 100 & the Backland 102 as an everyday touring ski. Any thoughts on those two?
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials 3 күн бұрын
The Backland feels more like a peppy all-mountain ski while the M-Tour has more of a sturdy and stout feel to it despite the slightly lighter weight.
@ferranroiggomar8828
@ferranroiggomar8828 18 күн бұрын
Hi guys! I was a Mythic 97 and M tour 99 skier, in love with their shape, flotability and stifness. I live in the Pirenees (Spain) where we have a lot of different conditions and those skis had a grate response to those poweder and icy days. But it seems that the new M tour 100 are more playfull and softer. Would you recomend me to upgrade and take the M tour 108 to have similiar feelings when going uphill and downhill? Many thanks!
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials 15 күн бұрын
This move makes sense. The new 100 has a rounder shape than the older M-Tour skis, and it's just a more modern style of skis. The 108 is still a very similar shape and style to the older one.
@OCteahead
@OCteahead Ай бұрын
Is the K2 Wayback 98 a capped sidewall? I ski tele and chew up sidewalls that aren’t capped. What other skis in this comparison are capped (besides the Volkl Rise Beyond)?
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
It's partially capped, even underfoot. Most skis on this wall are at least partially capped. The K2's, the Rise, the Backlands, the DPS's, Transalps, Zero G's, Locators, and the Echo all are not fully sidewalled skis.
@cmc9823
@cmc9823 Ай бұрын
Would I be crazy to put touring bindings on an Armada ARV 100? My current touring setup is 116 underfoot and that 100 range is also the width I’m missing for the resort. Thinking about a pair of Duke PT 16s. I already tour with those bindings on my wider touring skis, so I know how the bindings themselves perform.
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
There are very few ideas that strike us as "crazy." The ARV 100 is a relatively light, fun, and playful twin that is super versatile. You get the bonus of the Duke in the resort, and the known performance in a touring format.
@gabrielmarias972
@gabrielmarias972 27 күн бұрын
Hey Guys! I already have a Camox freebird with tech bindings for freeride alpine tours and freeride around the resorts, if i will look a better ski in powder or variable snow, but without losing or even improving resort carving use, between Bcakland 102 and Navis what you will suggest me? Or better what will add/loose with this skis from my Camox? When i do alpine skinning i do around 4000 so didnt like too heavy skis or bigger waist skis. Will match with atk freerider binding+Sacrpa Quattro boots Thanks a lot for the help
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials 18 күн бұрын
The Backland is more like the Camox Freebird that you're on in terms of weight and energy. The Navis is a bit heavier duty of a ski, so if you're becoming more aggressive and adventurous, I think that's a good choice.
@jazzman_10
@jazzman_10 21 күн бұрын
I recall Nordica having a pretty good ski arround 1500 grams last year. Not anymore?
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials 18 күн бұрын
The Unlimited line is no longer offered in North America so we are not including it in this year's comparison. But yes, the Enforcer Unlimited 88, 94, and 104 were all lighter versions of the normal Enforcer line.
@andyman127
@andyman127 Ай бұрын
What will it take for people to put light bindings on big skis... The ATK Freeraider EVO with the adjustable "din" on the front toe! I know it's not DIN certified, but I love that binding.
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
I think it's moving that direction. All it takes is more athlete-driven content of them sending huge mountain lines on pin tech bindings.
@fabiofluehler950
@fabiofluehler950 Ай бұрын
JJ UL 116 would fit in there very well 1:35:55
@on_philm
@on_philm 28 күн бұрын
Hey guys, nice comparison!! Wouldn't Völkl Blaze 104, Nordica Unlimited 94 and 104 also fit well into this category? Especially compared to Black Crows, they are in a similar weight range and therefore also quite good in terms of downhill performance, right?
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials 23 күн бұрын
Yes, although we decided to use manufacturers recommended use as a line to draw for including skis in this list. Blaze now falls more to the resort side and Unlimited are more hybrid options. Since the Unlimited are discontinued in North America in 2025, that made it an easier call to not include them here.
@sowi-fpv407
@sowi-fpv407 Ай бұрын
I have the bent 110 and love the playfullnes, is the backland 109 a good touring version of the bent?
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
Actually yeah, kind of. The shovel feels quite a bit like the Bent 110 shovel. The tail is flatter and probably a bit stiffer, which I think is important considering its purpose, but I do think they ski similarly.
@kokibr91
@kokibr91 Ай бұрын
Just put Shifts and keep rockin'. This is what I am thinking to do but not sure 110 or 120. I am by no means an expert and most probably skiessentials are right, but to me they seem quite different. Less tail rocker, stiffer, directional ski while Bent 110 has much more rocker tip and tail, softer, center mountpoint. The fact that serious big mountain freeriders use Backland instead of Bents, is telling me these skis are not the same. Having a very light and stiff Zero G, I would say it is not much fun.
@furpii
@furpii Ай бұрын
What bindings on the bent?
@sowi-fpv407
@sowi-fpv407 Ай бұрын
@@furpii fritschi tecton 13, so i do tour with the bent, but a lighter setup for longer trips is what I'm looking for.
@furpii
@furpii Ай бұрын
@ Yeah I See, then the Backland for sure seems like a good option. I have the Locator 96 as my pure touring Ski - I can recommend them as well. For myself I Now looking for a more powder/powdertour ski. Wider. How do u experience the Bent 110 for touring? For examinerad, how well Does the skin work with the tail? I had the Bent 100 some seasons and remember that it Didnt feel optimal
@deepbluewaterful
@deepbluewaterful Ай бұрын
hi guys Iam so happy to see your video online! Tons of usefull informations in an ocean of models! :) Love the athmosphere you two are giving in those video contents, would be nice to see a wooden stove in the corner and nice softer cozy mountain lights :) Please, just a quick question: since I have the possibility to buy a backland 107 from 2024, how it compares to the 109 in terms of playfulness? i heard that the 107 was a bit less stiff? thank you and good luck! :)
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
Your 107 is actually stiffer than the 109, particularly in the shovel. They are similar overall, but I find the 109 to be much more fun to ski and generally more playful.
@deepbluewaterful
@deepbluewaterful Ай бұрын
​@@SkiEssentialsIt seems that the 109 has more tail rocker...correct?
@Nico-bv6hi
@Nico-bv6hi Ай бұрын
@@deepbluewaterful chatgpt: "atomic backland 107 and 109 tailrocker comparison" 10 seconds later you have the answer.
@splitspecific1184
@splitspecific1184 Ай бұрын
Great reviews and comparison of different styles here. I think that lining the skis up based on weight, but having different lengths across the board, leading to narrower skis weighing in more than their wider counterparts is a little misleading. The wayback 98 is lighter than the 106 in the same size. The Corvus in the same length as the Echo 106 is a heavier ski. But yeah going of manufacturer's stated weights may make things more accurate. Still love the comparison though!
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
We discuss the difference in length being something to consider in the video, and we also find that manufacturers weights are vastly inconsistent to what we find on the scale.
@dexteranderson5867
@dexteranderson5867 Ай бұрын
Great informative video, what ski’s would you recommend for a 6’4 270 pound beginner/intermediate skier who only skis groomers?
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
I'd take a look at the Head Kore 87, Rossignol Arcade 84, or the Blizzard Anomaly 84. While most of these skis fall more under the advanced category, your size does require a bit burlier of a ski than your level may indicate.
@aljoschab2423
@aljoschab2423 Ай бұрын
Thanks for these great comparisons! You rock. How would you compare the Armada Locator 104 vs Black Crow Navis and Faction 3 for a freetouring ski?
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials 23 күн бұрын
Locator is an easier and surfier ski while the others are a bit more grounded and precise. I really like the Locator in fresh snow while the others deal with adversity a bit better due to increased haft and predictability.
@ben-er8sf
@ben-er8sf Ай бұрын
hi there, Julien Regnier said the draco is an atris like touring ski, do you agree ? thank you
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
I saw that and, while it's very hard to disagree with the ski's designer, I do feel that the Draco has a lot more in common with the new Corvus in terms of shape, radius, weight, and profile.
@ben-er8sf
@ben-er8sf Ай бұрын
@ thank you
@mawa4141
@mawa4141 Ай бұрын
what`s the lenght of the Backland 109?
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
184
@jacopolerda6280
@jacopolerda6280 Ай бұрын
Hi guys, thank you for your videos How much difference do you think there is between the echo 106 and the nordica unlimited 104? For reference the unlimited looks like is gone only in the USA store, here in Europe is still there
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
We still have a few Unlimited 104's left over, but yes it does seem to be out of the US market. The Salomon feels and sounds like a quieter, sturdier ski, but not by much. I am pretty darn impressed with how the Unlimited handles fresh snow, trees, and even softer groomed runs. It's the widest ski that I have and it's more than awesome when it comes to the trees and powder that we get here in Vermont. There's more playfulness and smearing in the Nordica while the Salomon feels more directional and traditional.
@kithrapha1733
@kithrapha1733 Ай бұрын
Hey i hope you can help me. Im right now thinking of the k2 sight or the atomic bent 90. im 180cm and 71kg. Im about 75/25 pist(slope)/park. The sight would be 179cm and the bent 90 175cm. Love your videos. ❤❤
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
The Sight is heftier and stiffer than the Bent. If you feel like you're going to be hard on your skis or if you want better grip for on-trail performance, I'd go with the Sight. For a lighter, funner, and more playful twin, the Bent 90 is amazing.
@markvoorhees9716
@markvoorhees9716 12 күн бұрын
Hello newer listener appreciate all your work of the information being contrasted and I know it is a lesser known brand & alpine touring emphasis but any comment or maybe future sessions the Hagan ski brand & models / it brings back how the TUA line from the 90’s to early 2000’s bright to the ski arena Curious & wanted to as k the ? Thanks
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials 10 күн бұрын
We'll take a look!
@matthewlawton5547
@matthewlawton5547 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the amazing Comp! How do the Faction La Machine 3s compare to the Backland 109s? Stiffer?
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
I don't remember the last time I flexed the La Machine 3, but the Backland feels more flexible than a lot of skis on this wall.
@mybadvideos
@mybadvideos Ай бұрын
Where's Elan?
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
We could've included the 2024 Ripstick Tour 104, we still have those, but I think we only have 1 pair. We kind of hit our physical limit of space and we've talked about that ski more than most touring skis, so decided to omit. Happy to answer any questions about it, though, I own a pair!
@neilburrows6670
@neilburrows6670 Ай бұрын
Would love to see some of the G3 skis here :)
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
We are not a G3 dealer, so tougher to get those skis to show and compare.
@neilburrows6670
@neilburrows6670 Ай бұрын
@SkiEssentials That makes sense!!
@garethdavies5809
@garethdavies5809 Ай бұрын
Hi guys love all your content, why no Nordicas ?
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
The Unlimited skis are unfortunately discontinued in the US Market, as far as we can tell. There are still some out in the world and in our warehouse too, still good skis, especially that 104.
@yajingcai5820
@yajingcai5820 Ай бұрын
No line vision 104?
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
Wish we had it for the video, it's a fantastic ski and would fit in great here. It's also fun because Line doesn't really designate the Vision as a touring-specific ski. They simply make a lighter freeride ski and allow you do do what you want with it.
@Y_C_Adventure-tb8on
@Y_C_Adventure-tb8on 25 күн бұрын
@@SkiEssentials how does it feel comparing with backland 109
@Wrgb1
@Wrgb1 Ай бұрын
No line vision. 😮
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
Not in the building unfortunately! Would've loved to include them as that's another rare touring twin tip.
@peterbradshaw6147
@peterbradshaw6147 Ай бұрын
When you start saying words like, "hybridy", time to stop talking too much ;)
@Tokiwalkee
@Tokiwalkee Ай бұрын
@SkiEssentials > Great review as usual 👍. Just a remark regarding the BC Camox Freebird: the most recent model isn’t 96 under foot but 95! The shape changed for 2022-2023 season with new construction as well. So the sample you were discussing is really old one. « …The new Camox uses a similar core as the popular Orb Freebird where all of the poplar wood is removed for a paulownia-only core, drastically reducing the weight. That reduction in wood stiffness is then reinforced with carbon fibers, glass fibers, and a titanal mounting plate. They also shortened the length of the ABS sidewall to eliminate more weight and give the tip and tail a little more flex… » Could you get the 95 and test it? Would be great to have your feeling vs the old 96! Thanks.
@Hoeyyy
@Hoeyyy Ай бұрын
Have yall checked out any of the Moment line? Id love to see Bob on the Death Wish 104 and Jeff rip a Wildcat 101.
@SkiEssentials
@SkiEssentials Ай бұрын
Not yet, but we're always on the lookout for a meetup with Moment.
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