2025 BMW M2 VS M240i: Which One is REALLY Worth the Money?

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@dudekk08
@dudekk08 26 күн бұрын
I test drove both today…and they are both incredible. At first was totally set on M2, but the M240i is also soo good but cheaper and more ‘chill’ when you just want to drive normally. The M2 is just crazy (in a great way). Good dilemma to have 😃 So we’ll see!
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed 26 күн бұрын
Yeah they are both good options for sure. Really just comes down to how much performance you'll actually end up using. Can't go wrong either way
@Gr8mate13
@Gr8mate13 22 күн бұрын
Wait til you have to insure the M2 and average 12mpg, my m240i on a highway cycle get better than 45 mpg, yup M2 is fast but in the wet the 240 is quicker
@Jacob-xd3ko
@Jacob-xd3ko 10 күн бұрын
I never test drove the M2 since it was a little out of my price range with the options I would want on a daily driver, but my M240 is fantastic. I do a lot of highway driving and it is extremely comfortable and definitely an upgrade from the previous generation being that it is on the 4 series platform.
@CharlesB46
@CharlesB46 Ай бұрын
The comments crack me up. They are designed to be different so it depends what you want but entire comment section picking one or the other. Both great cars people for different reasons. I picked m240I because it met the needs of what I wanted. m240i = classy daily with lots of power. M2 = Balls to the walls adrenalin rush.
@speeddemonRS3
@speeddemonRS3 Ай бұрын
@@CharlesB46 You mean M2 people are very defensive when someone prefers the M240i?😂🤣
@CharlesB46
@CharlesB46 27 күн бұрын
Might add I ordered same color and rims as this car but with xdrive and cognac interior (will look sick with this color). All bells and whistles except for phone charger, remote start and adaptive cruise. 56K with my 1500 military veteran discount. Bargain! I can't wait! All I can do now is watch M240i videos over and over and try to be patient LOL.
@a_unit_NG
@a_unit_NG Ай бұрын
the m2 looks better and just a more special car
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed Ай бұрын
I could see that! The blue though makes the 240 pop and look special!
@huntbob123
@huntbob123 25 күн бұрын
I thought the M240 was the M2 for a second didn’t realize they brought a similar color to the M240. Sooo clean I need one
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed 23 күн бұрын
lol yeah! First year for this color on the 240!
@FatKVN
@FatKVN 6 күн бұрын
I test drove both cars on the same day. In the end I went with head over heart purely for the fact of ride comfort. I felt the m240i in comfort mode handles pot holes so much better to the stiffness of the M2. Living in the UK where our roads are basically crap, I went for something that would handle that better. Also watched this channels' video for research on the m240i, so thank you gents.
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed 6 күн бұрын
Good way to go! Very livable car for roads like that. And you can always play with some upgrades if you want more performance out of it
@FatKVN
@FatKVN 6 күн бұрын
Yes, from what I know the B58 is very good for that... Thanks for the response guys! Made my morning lol
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed 6 күн бұрын
@@FatKVN it’s very good with mods! We had a Supra and did tons of mods! Those videos could help you out as we carry a bunch of mods for the B58 on our website!
@FatKVN
@FatKVN 6 күн бұрын
@@BrosFOURRSpeed nice one, I'll check it out. Keep up the good work 👍🏾
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed 6 күн бұрын
@ thanks!
@amill1563
@amill1563 Ай бұрын
I would go M2 with manual. I think Doug DeMoron liked the M2 as well.
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed Ай бұрын
The M2 is a great choice!
@Gr8mate13
@Gr8mate13 22 күн бұрын
The manual M2 is a terrible drive
@cdwag23
@cdwag23 5 күн бұрын
@@Gr8mate13 why
@quikness5284
@quikness5284 Ай бұрын
Don’t forget like u did in last video..the auto version of 25 m2 is now 443 torque.. respectively. Nice little bump. For some people more twisting forces helps with price difference as well
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed Ай бұрын
Yeah I know that! Didn’t add that since it was the manual though.
@EastWood2004
@EastWood2004 Ай бұрын
I have seen many m240i owners wish to upgrade to M2, but very few M2 owners want to downgrade to the M240i.
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed Ай бұрын
Very true! That's how it mostly goes. Both are super nice cars tho
@chrisginoc
@chrisginoc Ай бұрын
It’s also the status of having an M2. Comparing an M lite car versus a full M division car is almost sacrilegious. M240i if you want to build and add power yourself. M2 if you want something fast and fun out of the box. Don’t forget that M tax on any aftermarket parts versus non M aftermarket parts. It’s real
@a2ashraf
@a2ashraf Ай бұрын
I have an M2, and tuned it. It's so fast now. Like m4 power all the time. It pulls in 6 gear like it's 4th gear. all the tune did is increase turbo boost. So I think the 240 tuned, makes a compelling argument
@Gr8mate13
@Gr8mate13 22 күн бұрын
Drove both the M240 is a way better daily, M2 you need to map out where to refuel
@EastWood2004
@EastWood2004 22 күн бұрын
@@Gr8mate13 I haven't driven m240i, but I expect it's a mild version of the M. I have just got the M2. I don't miss the m240i, tbh.
@eek8605
@eek8605 Ай бұрын
I got the m2 and I did not really consider the m240i because previously I had a experience where I got Subaru WRX and switched to the STI months later because I regretted not getting a STI, yes you save money but in the long run that thought will always be in the back of my head of why didn’t I go for it, that’s why I got the M2 in 6 speed manual, if I got the m240i I would of always thought why didn’t I get the M2.
@speeddemonRS3
@speeddemonRS3 Ай бұрын
@eek8605 M240i xdrive is a better daily driver and better at dealing with winters or even rainy weather! M2 is nice tho!
@eek8605
@eek8605 Ай бұрын
@@speeddemonRS3​​⁠ IMO too it defo is the better daily the suspension is even softer on comfort, but I only have a 1 car garage, if I got the m240i I would always be having nightmares of why I didn’t get the M2 haha. Because when your trying to have fun the M cars are that much better plus with a manual :)
@reptarthetrx2408
@reptarthetrx2408 9 күн бұрын
For the extra $11k you get so much more car with the M2. That’s why I ordered a 2025 in Portimao Blue Metallic 6 speed manual.
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed 9 күн бұрын
Yeah I'm an M2 fan for sure! Well worth it for performance enthusiasts
@Silent_Witness699
@Silent_Witness699 Ай бұрын
Got my m240i two days ago 🫶 it is phantastic
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed Ай бұрын
Sweet! Enjoy!
@speeddemonRS3
@speeddemonRS3 Ай бұрын
@@Silent_Witness699 Fantastic! Congrats! I've had mine for 45k miles great car.
@akumarus
@akumarus 26 күн бұрын
great video !!! was looking for this !
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed 26 күн бұрын
Glad I could help! Which do you pick?
@limanuel
@limanuel Ай бұрын
In Puerto Rico the M2 is about 105k-108k and I just order the M240i XDrive full equipment for 81K. 25K more for the M2 is two much. Insane. I was willing to get the M2 for 95K maximum
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed Ай бұрын
Wow that's a big difference!
@Gumkey
@Gumkey Ай бұрын
M240 for 80k is insane ngl
@Ronrrr
@Ronrrr 14 күн бұрын
U can get m3 here for that
@js002003
@js002003 Ай бұрын
honestly both are worth the money, depending on what you want in a car. especially over the competition.
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed 4 күн бұрын
Yeah I agree. Solid choices at their price points
@Evan-d9k
@Evan-d9k Ай бұрын
Yeah the grill looks better on the m240i than the base m2
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed Ай бұрын
Its a pretty nice car overall for sure
@tadasjasas8903
@tadasjasas8903 Ай бұрын
M240 is more than enough for daily driving, but cmon, m2 is a beast and look way better. ❤
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed Ай бұрын
I’d go M2 as well, but great options to pick from!
@parkex9840
@parkex9840 Ай бұрын
I am torn. Was originally sold on the M2 but think imma end up with m240i. Live in the city and we have winter. It's gonna be my daily so 240i is just the right choice for me.
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing! It's a fun car as well!
@deoren279
@deoren279 Ай бұрын
M240i all day
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed Ай бұрын
Why?
@CharlesB46
@CharlesB46 Ай бұрын
@@BrosFOURRSpeed B58, much cheaper, much smaller, looks better to many, better sound to many, better lines to many, XDrive, better daily, 26 mpg combined, actually has 410 hp and 401 torque, actually runs 3.7 60 and 12.1 qtr. Any more questions LOL?
@deoren279
@deoren279 23 күн бұрын
@@BrosFOURRSpeed the look and value 240i is more than enough
@deoren279
@deoren279 23 күн бұрын
@@CharlesB46 yes for sure 240i all day 💥💥🚀🚀
@VendettaVC
@VendettaVC 20 күн бұрын
M2 is far beyond a better car in every way, it's much more appealing. I've never heard anyone talking bad about it other than online but people who own M2's receive compliments all the time. Hopefully one day i'll be able to get one.
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed 20 күн бұрын
Keep working towards it! Both are great for the price!
@weirdshibainu
@weirdshibainu Ай бұрын
240 with a manual would be perfect
@speeddemonRS3
@speeddemonRS3 Ай бұрын
@weirdshibainu You can buy last generation up until 2021 with a manual!!
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed Ай бұрын
Yeah would be cool to see that!
@weirdshibainu
@weirdshibainu Ай бұрын
@@speeddemonRS3 I know, but I'd prefer the 2025. If I could get the manual, the M2 wouldn't be worth it to me. It's much more fun to drive a slightly slower car fast with a manual, then a faster car with an auto.
@hpickettz34
@hpickettz34 Ай бұрын
@@weirdshibainu that's a personal opinion
@dion_the_entrepreneur
@dion_the_entrepreneur 12 күн бұрын
1stockf30 (RIP) already has shown over the years which is the better platform to build (M240i). If you want the badge and a few extras with a turnkey out the door dealership purchase, get the M2
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed 11 күн бұрын
The S58 will still make more power with the same mods. Sad to see what happened to him. But both cars can be built to me crazy fast. S58 is superior tho
@gwei316
@gwei316 Ай бұрын
M240x and M2 have same quoted 0-60 times on BMW site at 4.1 seconds.
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed Ай бұрын
Yeah pretty cool to see! This red M240 will be a tad slower. Also depends if you have auto or manual M2
@Gr8mate13
@Gr8mate13 Ай бұрын
I have a brand m240, full spec, and I drove a M2 in the flesh the 240 is gorgeous, the m2 is much much more hey look at me, id rather the more understated yet the m240 flu spec, bigger wheels is not a shrinking violet. M2 in the wet would struggle to keep up with a m240 ,the grip in endless due to xdrive
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed Ай бұрын
@@Gr8mate13 people seem to really like the xDrive!
@hpickettz34
@hpickettz34 Ай бұрын
@@Gr8mate13 nah, you bought the m240 because it was cheaper.
@TheRealVranesh
@TheRealVranesh 13 күн бұрын
@@hpickettz34I also got the M240 xDrive. Because I live the north east and snow is a thing up here 😂
@johnalvarado1337
@johnalvarado1337 21 күн бұрын
M240i is an excellent value especially with x-drive, no manual option is a miss though and that front bumper/ grill is nowhere near as nice as the M2’s
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed 21 күн бұрын
Yeah would be cool to see the manual with the 240. Both are cool options!
@johnalvarado1337
@johnalvarado1337 20 күн бұрын
@ for sure both cool options and I hate to admit as an M2 owner but the B58 sounds better
@shanehayes9349
@shanehayes9349 22 күн бұрын
Not taking anything away from the m240, but considering either the M2 or RS3. I've outgrown my racer boy FBO '15 GTI. If I want to drive something "extra comfy" I'll take the wife's Hyundai Palisade. ;)
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed 22 күн бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6XMd5yJa9uXn7s Here's our comparison with the M2 and RS3. Both are great options! Those Palisade's are really nice!
@kp5833
@kp5833 5 күн бұрын
I bought a new M240i because its awd vs the M2 rwd. The M240i is faster in the 1/4 mile & light to light and that is what 99% of drive . If you want to track a car then hands down the M2 but for daily use M240i by a mile and if there is snow involved do not even consider the M2
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed 5 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@EVER-1984
@EVER-1984 Ай бұрын
Like 👍 M2 💯 😊😊
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed Ай бұрын
M2 is a great choice!
@Daveyboy_RS3
@Daveyboy_RS3 Ай бұрын
BMW shot themselves in the foot with the M2CS. Once you see the far more seamless and beautiful styling on the front of the CS, you'll never want to get a standard M2. I would have gotten the M2 if it had the same front bumper as the CS. That's how it should have looked all along.
@fzr1000981
@fzr1000981 Ай бұрын
2025 M2 hands down...mine will be here soon
@EastWood2004
@EastWood2004 Ай бұрын
Congrats! Did you choose the Auto?
@fzr1000981
@fzr1000981 Ай бұрын
@@EastWood2004 Yes
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed Ай бұрын
Yeah it's pretty sweet!
@mthusiastmedia9782
@mthusiastmedia9782 29 күн бұрын
Yeahhhhh M2 is the answer unless you live somewhere with real winters. Then the answer is M2 and X3M. Also shoutout to the fact that these fellas were able to drive a G87 from Hendricks. For the last 2 years, every auto they got in was sold and the manuals were buried in the showroom so I actually never drove a G87 until the day I bought mine. Good job on that. They know my M4 and X3M at north lake and independence and still wouldn’t let me (or made excuses not to) test an M2 🤷🏾‍♂️
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed 28 күн бұрын
Yeah the M2 is a great car! Nice to have an X3M alongside it I'm sure ;)
@speeddemonRS3
@speeddemonRS3 26 күн бұрын
@BrosFOURRSpeed He makes it sound so easy for people to buy an X3M instead of the M240i xdrive when they are worlds apart in price, and of course, running cost are at least doubled plus insurance cost...😂
@mthusiastmedia9782
@mthusiastmedia9782 25 күн бұрын
@@speeddemonRS3 Yeeahhh you clearly missed the joke lol. If someone is looking for bang for buck between an M240 and M2, I'd assume they aren't the same person that will purchase 2 M cars instead then worry about insurance cost. But feel free to tell me more.
@mthusiastmedia9782
@mthusiastmedia9782 25 күн бұрын
@@BrosFOURRSpeed Clearly, since my X3M and M2 owner biased jokes didn't land with some, I'd say do what's in your budget and lifestyle appropriate lol. If you drag race, get the 240. If you road race, drive aggressive roads for fun, or just want to of crazy, get the M2.
@speeddemonRS3
@speeddemonRS3 25 күн бұрын
@mthusiastmedia9782 I was clearly kidding around, and it was nothing serious. Just pointing out that it's tough for some to acquire those vehicles, and M240i xdrive is budget friendly in comparison, which is true!😄
@M240i_InVegas
@M240i_InVegas 27 күн бұрын
70% of M240i owners have the xDrive variant. 0 to 60 time is consistently 3.6 to 3.8 seconds. For whatever reason, the rear wheel drive gets reviewed and the slower 0 to 60 time gets quoted. I guess it looks bad that the M240i xDrive launches harder than the M2
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed 27 күн бұрын
Just going off what the bmw website states .
@Gr8mate13
@Gr8mate13 22 күн бұрын
Only Xdrive in Australia
@dandada28
@dandada28 9 күн бұрын
M2 is the modern day e46
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed 9 күн бұрын
For sure! Wish it weighed a bit less tho. But it's such a fun car
@BrokenAdam770
@BrokenAdam770 Ай бұрын
The BMW M2 G87 is a real M car with either 8-speed automatic or 6-speed manual.
@mikegaruda4270
@mikegaruda4270 Ай бұрын
At this point if you want a real M car you should look not above a 2015 model…
@speeddemonRS3
@speeddemonRS3 Ай бұрын
@@BrokenAdam770 DCT would have been better in a true M car!!
@speeddemonRS3
@speeddemonRS3 Ай бұрын
@mikegaruda4270 M2 CS isn't a real one lmao!?
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed Ай бұрын
For sure! Both transmissions are great!
@touayaaj84
@touayaaj84 Ай бұрын
M2 with the ZF8.
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed Ай бұрын
Yeah cool option!
@AntLive29
@AntLive29 Ай бұрын
Which one has the better music system?
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed Ай бұрын
Both are the same
@TheRealVranesh
@TheRealVranesh 13 күн бұрын
@@BrosFOURRSpeednope. The M2 can come with Bowers & Wilkins. You can however upload the bowers tune into the Harman Kardon on M240 for a better sound using bummer code.
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed 13 күн бұрын
@@TheRealVranesh interesting, that’s not an option on bmw website.
@yelvtuji2348
@yelvtuji2348 Ай бұрын
M2 is not good for all weather. If winter has much snow, m240 xdrive is better if you have only one car.
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed Ай бұрын
Yeah if you need the AWD, the 240 is a great choice
@es3791
@es3791 19 сағат бұрын
Bungee jump or trampoline. 😂
@qna95B
@qna95B 11 сағат бұрын
Look like a couple of Kias together
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed 2 сағат бұрын
They certainly don't drive like a bunch of Kia's..
@karolmaciejewski340
@karolmaciejewski340 Ай бұрын
M2 looks way better than m240 in person, besides its way more fun
@CharlesB46
@CharlesB46 Ай бұрын
Seen and drove both. Totally disagree.
@speeddemonRS3
@speeddemonRS3 26 күн бұрын
@CharlesB46 You're right, but M2 guys think this way, and there's no changing their very one-sided mentality lol
@GTOHawg
@GTOHawg 29 күн бұрын
M2 top speed with a sunroof is 155.
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed 28 күн бұрын
Yeah most BMW's are limited to 155. But some packages on M cars can unlock that to a higher number. Just depends
@GTOHawg
@GTOHawg 28 күн бұрын
@@BrosFOURRSpeed you need the M Drivers Package which forces you to get the carbon roof and raises the top speed. I want the top speed with the sunroof personally. I can’t build one it seems. 😆
@coolmetin02
@coolmetin02 26 күн бұрын
@@GTOHawgyeah i saw that too its so stupid I‘d love the sunroof but also living in germany the higher top speed is a must have for the autobahn with no speed limit
@M240i_InVegas
@M240i_InVegas 27 күн бұрын
m240i xDrive typically out launches the M2 from a dig. Sub 4 second 0 to 60 runs are quite common for the m240i xDrive. I would never consider buying the rear wheel drive variant of the m240i. The all wheel drive launches is what makes the car awesome
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed 27 күн бұрын
Cool, just depends on what the buyer wants.
@michaelschneider1365
@michaelschneider1365 Ай бұрын
The m240 I looks so much better
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed Ай бұрын
I do like it's rear bumper more
@fzr1000981
@fzr1000981 Ай бұрын
No way....240 is a girly car and much slower
@holymolys7692
@holymolys7692 Ай бұрын
no IRL M2 looks way bettet
@Mazhrr
@Mazhrr Ай бұрын
@@fzr1000981 m240i xdrive has a faster 0-60 lmao plus m240i looks better
@dnice362
@dnice362 Ай бұрын
Sounds better too
@quikness5284
@quikness5284 Ай бұрын
Is 25 m2 still embargo/
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed Ай бұрын
No. Just didn't have a change to drive one on public roads yet
@holymolys7692
@holymolys7692 Ай бұрын
Lmao embargo what. same car
@ronfisher4751
@ronfisher4751 9 күн бұрын
The headlights suck on both.. bring back the halos BMW!
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed 7 күн бұрын
Have you used them at night? Why are they bad?
@ronfisher4751
@ronfisher4751 7 күн бұрын
@@BrosFOURRSpeed Looks man! Bimmers have had awesome looking halos for years and you can recognize them just by the headlights.. now these have Kia looking things. Blech
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed 7 күн бұрын
@@ronfisher4751 ahh, I think they look good. Just a preference.
@viator1987
@viator1987 7 күн бұрын
M2 is a fail. It's the only M car that you can't get in AWD (XDrive). It's the main reason I didn't get one over here in the midwest. Same engine. 240i is faster 0-60. Slower in the 1/4. This changes if you tune the engine to match the M2 to match it. M2 is highly disappointing.
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed 4 күн бұрын
The M2 is not the same engine as the M240. M2 has the S58 which is twin turbo. The M240 has the B58 which is single. With downpipe and tuning the M2 can make 700 WHP while the M240 will be at 500 WHP with the same mods. Very different cars overall
@joshraleigh101
@joshraleigh101 Ай бұрын
Is m240i the B58 variant?
@that_vaguely_ethnic_guy
@that_vaguely_ethnic_guy Ай бұрын
yes, and the 230i uses the B48
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed Ай бұрын
yup!
@Guzzzr
@Guzzzr 25 күн бұрын
POV cam is dizzying.. buy some go pros mount them
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed 25 күн бұрын
Can you be more specific? It’s pretty steady. Also using a GoPro.. I’m facing one direction while driving, not sure how that’s”dizzy”.
@mikegaruda4270
@mikegaruda4270 Ай бұрын
Side by side… m240 looks better
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed Ай бұрын
Yeah it's a bit cleaner. I still like the bold aspects with the M2 tho
@hpickettz34
@hpickettz34 Ай бұрын
It does look gayer😂
@speeddemonRS3
@speeddemonRS3 Ай бұрын
@@hpickettz34 M2 was built by the LEGO BLOCK team lmfao!!!
@hpickettz34
@hpickettz34 Ай бұрын
@@speeddemonRS3 that's why I like, someone said my m2 looks like street fighter.
@cjmoritz
@cjmoritz Ай бұрын
geez the M240 is so much better looking than the M2
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed Ай бұрын
It is pretty sleek
@cjmoritz
@cjmoritz Ай бұрын
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I have a 2023 portamao blue, the new color and body moldings look great on the new one
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed Ай бұрын
Thats a great color for these!
@musarra195
@musarra195 Ай бұрын
These cars are so ugly. Edit : 240 less ugly
@BrosFOURRSpeed
@BrosFOURRSpeed Ай бұрын
A bit different looking. Maybe they will grow on you
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