Finally, a video talking about the B58. It’s about time.
@jackholmes81052 ай бұрын
🫡
@xavier525810 күн бұрын
I know right, literally such an hidden gem🙄
@basithph89582 ай бұрын
You have to admit the M340i still holds the gold standard for the premium sporty sedan B58 baby
@v12-s652 ай бұрын
It does but unfortunately a bit less than the pre-lci
@shehandesilva75302 ай бұрын
yeah those specs are undeniably amazing. Almost 400hp and 30+ mpg highway in a 4 door family sedan 🤯
@td17512 ай бұрын
idk. this one looks like a honda civic
@Fc-cb3tn2 ай бұрын
@@v12-s65 yeah no idea how does BMW manage to fuck up their recent facelift models so consistently
@v12-s652 ай бұрын
@@Fc-cb3tn the previous I drive was perfect with the buttons 🙃 bmw without a round steering wheel ain't a bmw. Plus the airbag isn't leather anymore, was a stand out feature.. looked much more aggressive too
@busterscrugs2 ай бұрын
B58 + ZF 8 speed is the best powertrain combo for daily driving, bar none. Silverback Jack approved 🗿
@10essee10titans2 ай бұрын
i think your clarification of "Daily driving" is VERY important. it is not dramatic or particularly fun, but it always puts down the power when you need it
@rambow702 ай бұрын
I'll add EA888 gen 3 and 4 w/ DSG for those who are in the price point below this class of car. Germans do it well!
@MrCarGuy2 ай бұрын
@@rambow70 Those engines have always been problematic and wouldn't trust the new generation either
@hamsterbrigade2 ай бұрын
This is certainly a statement.
@painpals12 ай бұрын
@@MrCarGuy I was about to defend the engine, cause its really good at making easy reliable power. But damn that plastic water pump
@electrikoptik2 ай бұрын
I'm a Toyota/Lexus guy but the 3-series is still the benchmark for small sporty premium sedan.
@HunnidGucci2 ай бұрын
IS500 may match up up with this, but Lexus doesn't even bother updating the IS line up, they only make SUV now and it is sad
@FreshYoungDude2 ай бұрын
@@HunnidGuccitoo bad they killed off the GS. A GS500 would have been more appealing.
@CB123452 ай бұрын
@@HunnidGucciI agree, Lexus makes great machines, but they lack so much passion and design for their car models though. But I do really love the IS, GS, and LS cars. Crappy SUVs and Crossovers can be left behind because I don't like those types of vehicles.
@Soh902 ай бұрын
Same here, huge Lexus/Toyota fan but I daily drive a F31 BMW 328d (diesel). The 3 Series is pretty much one of the most well rounded entry level premium sedans you can buy. They are balanced, have pretty good interior build quality, and offer a wide variety of engine choices. Unfortunately BMW discontinued the diesel in the US, but their hybrids are solid too. They’re also pretty dependable save for a few very minor hiccups. My car is turning 10 years old next year and pretty much have only asked me for oil changes every 3,500 miles or so.
@Soh902 ай бұрын
@@Ok_Mountain_8698 Yes it is 🤷🏾♂️ It’s definitely not a big car by todays standards
@Camdenro2 ай бұрын
Mark’s busy editing his magnum opus, a two hour behemoth. “The Honda S2000: is it worth it?”
@thatoneotherotherguy2 ай бұрын
I'm sure the conclusion of "I should just buy an ND3 Miata, but I won't" is difficult for him to complete
@libradrag0n2 ай бұрын
I wonder what a "B58 swapped Honda S2000: Can't we all get along?" video would be like.
@jackholmes81052 ай бұрын
Oh shit you know whats coming on Black Friday
@thatoneotherotherguy2 ай бұрын
@ sometimes you just want a design newer than 25 years old, coming in 500 lbs lighter, getting Corolla fuel economy rather than Tahoe fuel economy. Different people, different preferences. There’s a lot to like in the ND2/ND3
@louisnguyen60382 ай бұрын
and the answer is always yes
@embiggens12 ай бұрын
I have a pre-LCI M340i. I was weary of BMW, but had a friend who worked at BMW corporate that convinced me the B58/ZF8 was the business and wouldn't let me down. He was right. I'm at 50k now and have had zero issues. Zero. And it's fun as hell to drive, built very well, sounds great, has ~500hp with a downpipe and tune, and still gets mid 30s on the highway. Amazing car.
@FerasAlhawas2 ай бұрын
Any oil leaks in general, specifically the oil filter housing/cooler
@Pamlicojdjdj14872 ай бұрын
50K miles is nothing for a Modern BMW. Wait til you get to 60K-70K+ miles. That’s where the fun starts😂
@bradyaradgamer16302 ай бұрын
@@Pamlicojdjdj1487one of my partners has one 94k miles no major issues just a coolant leak still going strong these engines are built great
@embiggens12 ай бұрын
@Pamlicojdjdj1487 Lol I hope not. I know my friend's 335i back in the day was a POS by 30k. He's part of what scared me away.
@embiggens12 ай бұрын
@@FerasAlhawas For me? No, none at all. No leaks. I change every 5k with LiquiMoly at a local BMW specialist fwiw.
@ethanthomas682 ай бұрын
I own a 2021 M340xi. The car simply does everything well and I can outrun just about anyone. The B58 coupled with the ZF8 is magic. Best 3 series I’ve ever owned and I’ve owned variants of every 3 series except the E21.
@YouSoundButtHurt2 ай бұрын
Any tesla would absolutely smoke you.
@Mr_Smackle2 ай бұрын
any 2 motor tesla/EV will outrun your car in 0-60 and in quarter mile lol
@MG-Alexandrovich2 ай бұрын
@@Mr_Smacklethe thing is, most teslas don’t race. People need to get somewhere and keep the charge for that. Esp after long day. With this you ready to go anytime
@zoner__2 ай бұрын
@@Mr_Smackle At a tremendous sacrifice in build quality and interior luxury. It's faster so you don't have to sit in that ratty interior anymore than necessary.
@patb52662 ай бұрын
@@Mr_Smackleanother Tesla simp that thinks driving is all about 0-60 times. It's bye bye at the first corner and around the track to the Tesla not to mention the quality and looks😅.
@aeropro75582 ай бұрын
I've the 330i with the b48 and with over 60k on the clock it's been super reliable. I'm not hard on the car but I do drive it "spiritually " regularly. I've driven the 340 recently and it's similar but the 6 cylinder is beautiful ,smooth and incredibly quick....
@bb52422 ай бұрын
It will f you in the a eventually
@possession39292 ай бұрын
60k is baby miles
@PatilsNinad2 ай бұрын
@@possession3929 B58 is reliable but not so much that to call it baby miles.
@alpenjodel242 ай бұрын
@@PatilsNinad ye, for modern standards its reliable but even the b58 won't do good for much more than 300k
@gaara46672 ай бұрын
@@alpenjodel24we won’t know until majority of them reach that point. Doesn’t make sense shitting on a platform based of something that has not happened yet. 🤦🏿♂️
@timothycoyne58742 ай бұрын
I love the point you made about the M340i is the car most people need instead of an M3. Yes, the M3 is amazing, but if you want a fast but normal looking car that will blend in, plus get decent fuel economy, this car is hard to beat.
@jordanbell44202 ай бұрын
No manual in the G20 340i
@rustyscrewdrivrАй бұрын
@@jordanbell4420cry about it
@rajahparks45142 ай бұрын
I just love how comprehensive these reviews are. Seriously, you guys are one of a kind.
@acroracing2 ай бұрын
I can totally rely on what they say.. they get into the smallest details. I love it.
@Jasiel.952 ай бұрын
It’s the best channel.
@dforrest45032 ай бұрын
But there’s two of them.
@n0b0dy-f2o2 ай бұрын
Glad to see you finally got your hands on the M340i - LOVE mine! The Adaptive Suspension and ZTK Cooling and Tire package with the larger brakes and larger Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires really transform the car - Wish you were able to review with these options. B58 and ZF8 are the gold standard in this class.
@PeelerG202 ай бұрын
The ZTK package is not needed for tracking, just an FYI. Most of us that track our G20’s don’t have ZTK and the standard rotors perform just fine when coupled with upgraded SS Brake Lines, Fluid and pads.
@memememine12 ай бұрын
@@PeelerG20 Awesome! So the standard engine oil cooling handles track as well?
@PeelerG202 ай бұрын
@@memememine1 for most who track infrequently, yes. Obviously if you are going to make this an every weekend track vehicle or dedicated track vehicle, then you would need to upgrade cooling regardless from CSF or Wagner.
@DanB-pg6vu2 ай бұрын
I do love how the bmw 3 series is called a small sports car today. If you go back roughly 15 years this would be considered a European pony car. Lots of power, rwd platform, very practical with modern luxury and tech.
@supercarkid2 ай бұрын
Love the B58 and ZF8 combo in my X3 M40i. So smooth, powerful, efficient, and it sounds amazing. The cherry on top is that its reliable as well!
@Fa-uk5fb2 ай бұрын
I have the 2024 M340d and the car is super quick bit still delivers over 50mpg on the motorway. Amazing engine
@KNRS9272 ай бұрын
As an owner of an E90 3 series, always happy to see a 3 series review. It’s one of my favorite sports sedans and sedans on the market, period. Not many cars can come close to the balance of sporty handling, comfort now, and just sheer excitement of a 3 series. And the M340i is probably the best version of the current G20 3 series.
@cinthe32 ай бұрын
The hottest local lawyer lease special!
@Courtesyflush522 ай бұрын
Most lawyers I see with BMW have a 330i with the M-trim add on pack, rather than a M340i or M3
@MultiSneakerLover2 ай бұрын
Lawyers drive regular 5 series and e class
@TermlessHGW2 ай бұрын
I wish they'd bring the estate version of this. Might be a cure for CUV syndrome.
@gaara46672 ай бұрын
And for good reason. 👏🏿
@blackjack214772 ай бұрын
If you are a lawyer and drive a 3 series….you are not doing something right
@sltho2 ай бұрын
I got my ‘24 two months ago and I love it. Two cars in one. Comfort and eco gives me a great beamer and sports plus gives me a rocket. Amazing.
@davidmarquez957Ай бұрын
Been waiting for you guys to do a review on the m340i. I have a 2023 and absolutely love it
@afb22 ай бұрын
When they released the M340 I knew I had to have one. One of the greatest purchases I have ever made, 2020 RWD Portimao.
@ironhal02 ай бұрын
Own a 2024 M340i (after driving a 330i), and I absolutely love it. So much power!
@Jaketube-jg3itАй бұрын
I have a 2024 as well, the sound is so good too
@wyw2012 ай бұрын
Miss the old orange gauge cluster. The new digital one doesn’t do it
@thatoneotherotherguy2 ай бұрын
Part of the reason I love the Z4 with either the B48 or the B58. Much better gauges and infotainment with the older stuff.
@MauriceBln12 ай бұрын
If you miss this, you must be really old. 😉
@R8andGT3Fan2 ай бұрын
They make the dashboard uglier and uglier with every restyling...older digital "gauges" looked great (X3M, M5).
@wyw2012 ай бұрын
@@MauriceBln1 For you, what’s the threshold for “really old”
@andrewb3252 ай бұрын
I agree. This new one is strange. Give me some normal analog-looking gauges, even if it is an LCD.
@30hours512 ай бұрын
the highway roll racing and cutting traffic special
@Alecd20232 ай бұрын
This and the RS3 were the only two cars I was considering when I was in the market earlier this year. I ultimately went with the RS3 for what I was looking for (something sportier out of the box), but the m340i is a great package and way above the comparable Audi/Merc/etc models.
@bokiNYC2 ай бұрын
Love my '22 8Y RS3, it's lighter, has that unique 5 cylinder engine and dual clutch transmission - it's got a killer 0-60 acceleration bit the interior is not as luxurious as this M340i.
@jkliao64862 ай бұрын
This was me as well in 2022 and I also went for the RS3.
@Bailey_54R2 ай бұрын
CT4-V Blackwing RWD with a 6MT
@Alecd20232 ай бұрын
@ Also a great car, I just personally don’t like the way it looks. That’s subjective though and I totally get why someone would choose it
@jkliao64862 ай бұрын
@@Bailey_54R It is a great car, until you realize a decently optioned daily driver would be in the mid-70s that is almost useless in the snow and has unusable back-seats. Not really a great option as the main daily driver and I don't think a lot of people realized that. Fabulous looking car, still has the blue one as my screen saver, but I bet most people only looked at 6MT+RWD and didn't look further past that.
@Dowlphin2 ай бұрын
9:38 reminded me of the advice: _To be a safe driver, assume everybody on the road is drunk._ (And I had the followup thought that this approach is perfected when one also applies it to oneself.)
@SK-so5nj2 ай бұрын
5:25 30mpg!!! That’s impressive for a car this powerful. That’s what a 2021 crv gets but with 100 something hp. I guess that’s the price at work.
@theinsanephoenix2 ай бұрын
i picked the M340i 2024 version 4 months ago, absolutely loving it. I only which it had the updated OS like the new 7/5 series.
@Jeffrey262612 ай бұрын
Anderson used to be my homebase before I moved! I used to bomb around those same roads in a 335i coupe back in the day. And I can confirm that the b48 and b58 are infinitely more reliable than the N54 and N55. Just hit 127k and the only engine issue I've had so far has been a coolant hose leak that was under recall.
@Pamlicojdjdj14876 күн бұрын
So the coolant system in your B58 hasn’t melted itself into oblivion?🤔
@jmydy2 ай бұрын
Great review, as always. Personally, the only thing I don't like about this car are the screens inside and exterior design "refresh". Apart from this, it's well done, complete car with superb performance.
@dillonsrt2 ай бұрын
I had a 2018 340i, modified to roughly 460 horsepower. It was incredibly awesome, just kept up with scheduled maintenance and had no problems. Shame i had money problems that made me sell it
@aprtur2 ай бұрын
Kind of surprised BMW hasn't yet pulled a card on the M340i like they did with the Z4 - offer a "handschalter" package with iDrive 7 (no pano display) and a 6MT for the 50th anniversary of the 3 series in 2025. They'd be throwing enthusiasts a bone, and be able to "upcharge" for it in a package to cover costs. The hard parts are already out there in other models...c'mon BMW - your move.
@beauhawk11462 ай бұрын
And still...no one would buy it.
@aprtur2 ай бұрын
@beauhawk1146 all depends on how you release it - as a 50th anniversary special 3 series, they would undoubtedly sell. Hell, look at the new CSL that was released that was an over three-quarter million dollar M4 - they sold every single one.
@LiLGhettoSmurfOG2 ай бұрын
Had a M340 and have a M550 now, BMW has mastered the connection between engine and transmission in an auto. ZF did a fantastic job.
@JumpedMedia2 ай бұрын
what do u prefer? would u recommend the 540i facelift?
@LiLGhettoSmurfOG2 ай бұрын
@@JumpedMedia The M340 was more nimble but the M550 is way more comfortable. I think 540 would be best of both worlds plus the B58 in those are more reliable and gas efficient.
@davidlane95562 ай бұрын
I could not agree more with this review. I have a 2020 M340i Drive that I have done track days, back roads and all around drives and it performs amazing. It’s actually faster than the last generation M3/M4. I recently added the Dynan 2020 B58 controller and this small mod really make a big difference to the car’s performance. I also own a 2018 Porsche Cayman GTS and it’s a toss up which one I take for a drive. It truly does it all. Thanks for a great review of what I already knew. 😊
@cmulhall2 ай бұрын
its faster in a 1/4 and thats about it because F80s are notorious for not knowing what traction is. And considering you drive a cayman and have driven it on the track, you should know the M340 handles like a boat. They're great cars but they're not M3s.
@PeelerG202 ай бұрын
@@cmulhallagreed. Much more body roll in the 340 than M3. Sway bars, coilovers and SPL arms fixed that issue but stock vs stock, there is a huge difference in handling/grip on track.
@Somedudeonyoutube1232 ай бұрын
Well he didn't say anything incorrect. @@cmulhall
@RobertOfStAlbans_2 ай бұрын
Faster than prev gen M3? Wth?! I might have to seriously consider this..
@madpistol2 ай бұрын
Take a shot each time Jack says "B58".
@richardnavratil96612 ай бұрын
Nah I wanna live
@JuanCarlosLTO2 ай бұрын
What seems to be the officer problem? 🥴 🍹
@phatgringo2.02 ай бұрын
currently in detox...
@jackholmes81052 ай бұрын
I believe the surgeon general recommends against this.
@DevinAllen-z2p2 ай бұрын
I want my shot
@Sumitalianguy62 ай бұрын
I have a 2020 m340i xdrive with 174k miles. Truly a masterpiece
@gio957Ай бұрын
lol how much did you pay in maintenance to get it to 174k?
@Sumitalianguy6Ай бұрын
it was a CPO that just expired this last summer. That being said only had one repair that was needed. Otherwise I bought the unlimited oil change package for 2-3 years for $200 and then just tires. B58 is bulletproof. Also stage 2 for most of those miles.
@Pamlicojdjdj14876 күн бұрын
@@Sumitalianguy6So the cooling system hasn't melted into oblivion and your AC evaporator core still factory original with no Freon leaks? I don’t buy it😂.
@desertmodern76382 ай бұрын
Surprisingly decent looking front end.
@awepossum10592 ай бұрын
it looks so happy :D
@td17512 ай бұрын
looks like a honda civic
@xyz-s5e9v2 ай бұрын
@@td1751better than honda
@td17512 ай бұрын
@@xyz-s5e9v 😂
@jacobtruelove53322 ай бұрын
I have a 2020 with 95k miles on it, I love it, very reliable and fun car, can get 35-36 mpg on highway too
@mcyeti862 ай бұрын
The B58 is an amazing engine. Love the B58TU in my 2021 X3 M40i. Great SUV, MPG, handling, cheaper insurance
@loseerich493Ай бұрын
Love how Jack gets in his B-Fifty-By-God-8 groove!
@apathyzen97302 ай бұрын
Me: sees the video title Also me: BEEFIFTYEIGHT
@randomhero4382 ай бұрын
Jack reviewed this perfectly, precisely what the mid-level three series should be. The top dog do everything compact sedan.
@sandyvalentin30722 ай бұрын
Guys… If I knew that I would have given you my 2024 M340 for testing my wife runs a major dealership not to far from you been a big fan of your channel
@jsukys62 ай бұрын
Yessss they finally reviewed it!!! Shame on BMW for denying us this content. Absolutely love my 2023 m340. Nearly no notes.
@Tony2Times-jn1jq4 күн бұрын
Did you lease it or put down ?
@jsukys64 күн бұрын
@@Tony2Times-jn1jqlease is up in 9 months and I fully intend to buy out of the lease. Nothing has come out since that would steer me away
@willhart15232 ай бұрын
I traded in my 21' Veloster N for a 20' m340i and it's been an incredible car so far. I've got a downpipe + Valvetronic system on it and it's ROWDY. It's one of the best sedans you can buy (used).
@atmartens2 ай бұрын
What made you drop the Veloster N?
@willhart15232 ай бұрын
@atmartens I didn't like how the Hyundai service department helped me, the few times I had to go in (under warranty). They just didn't want to work on anything, even when it was covered under warranty. Plus the interior was garbage, and it had a real lack of space. My GF and I were planning on having kids so something bigger/nicer/faster was on the table. I came across a m340i in my area that met my needs and I pulled the trigger early. And...now I've got a kid on the way lol.
@atmartens2 ай бұрын
@@willhart1523 I’m not surprised by the dealership experience. I feel like I’ve heard and seen that a lot. Congrats too on the kid!
@JamesOrtonVideo2 ай бұрын
Thank you Jack great review full of information, proud to be a part of the subject matter and all of your efforts to the industry and passion for cars! I do believe you can feel a little more of the rear suspension, and tuning that I have seen done of the M340s has also had rewarding results! Next time your in you'll have to check it out!
@OhJeezMC2 ай бұрын
I was waiting for this one. I got one in Touring, it's getting its first oil change as I type. Even during the engine break-in, it's great. Savagegeese is one of the reasons I got M340i. Thanks guys!
@Spud_E_Buddy2 ай бұрын
Great car! 🙌🏼 I owned a 2015 M235i, then a 2018 M240i (so nimble), and now a 2023 M440i. It’s the sweet spot for me.
@drepark22942 ай бұрын
Me too m440i coupe xdrive. Love it bro
@pilotvanquish38862 ай бұрын
Ngl wish bmw would give them an m340i to test very thoroughly as this review was quite short. This car with the optional staggered 255 width tires and bigger brakes really transforms this car handling capabilities. The 225 square setup should have never been standard equipment on this vehicle.
@raulshah2 ай бұрын
I have an m340 and am curious about this... im a newbie haha so are you saying you made the rear tires 255? and that made the car handle better alone? I didn't even know you could upgrade the brakes
@aleksuks2 ай бұрын
It is NOT recommended to run xDrive with a staggered setup. On a RWD car, sure.
@pilotvanquish38862 ай бұрын
@@aleksuks The m340i comes with a staggered 255 rear/ 225 front if you either order the car with the high performance summers non run flat or tick on the cooling package option / m package pro that comes with bigger front brakes with oil cooler.
@pilotvanquish38862 ай бұрын
@@aleksuks Not sure what you are talking about as x-drive is primarily a rear bias awd system. If one were to get the cooling package or summer tire option, the car will come with staggered tires from factory and increased top speed limiter..
@airpolska2 ай бұрын
i have an x3 m40i and its the same thing in an suv... it too is great and is effectively this on stilts w more practicality
@YookGears2 ай бұрын
I was upset that the M340i didn’t come in a manual. But at the same time that means I have to buy the M3, so maybe it was a good thing 😁
@TrevForPresident2 ай бұрын
You could get an f30 and save a bunch of money. I know that's a compromise, though.
@tubejorrit2 ай бұрын
BMW manual's are not that good, here in Europe almost all M cars are automatics.
@beb15272 ай бұрын
It’s not fair that you can get a manual in the Supra
@OneTwoThreePunch2 ай бұрын
I went with a stripped m3 comp x drive vs a loaded m340… couldn’t be happier! 2 years later and 6k miles I still smile every time I get in it . Only ZF8 available in comp but it’s shifts close to their older DCT
@yourpalbobbyboi2 ай бұрын
For 15k m3 is a no brainer . M2 if you don’t mind 2 door cars. G80 m3 is definitely a daily driver. Worst gas mileage and switching out tires is the only down side.
@eazy5292 ай бұрын
I have a 2023 m340 in skyscraper grey and it’s a great car. The adaptive suspension is a must.
@cardiacresp2 ай бұрын
Where I live a used m340i is 20k more than the S5 and almost the same price as a 1-2 year older M4, what the actual fuck?!?!
@midnightgamzdanot32 ай бұрын
Low depreciation and high demand
@adrianlepique2 ай бұрын
@@midnightgamzdanot3 S5's also suffer from engine issues due to Audi's faulty rocker arms. Way less reliable out of warranty than the B58.
@johnl.382 ай бұрын
@@adrianlepiquethat is pre refresh bro, aka B9 but not B9.5. There are still cylinder 6 engine failures and PCV failures, but the rocker arm thing was fixed yeara ago.
@adrianlepique2 ай бұрын
@@johnl.38 agreed but we’re talking used higher mileage cars which could include first gen models since they competed with the B58 F30 and early M340i’s. And B9’s and 9.5’s can have the more rare issue of turbo failure problems due to the extreme heat in the “hot V” config. Doesn’t happen often, but it does pop up more when you tune it.
@jwalesoutlaw32942 ай бұрын
Lack of supply. These things are all basically a unicorn. I've seen plenty of M3s on lots but never a new M340i
@JPRacing7152 ай бұрын
My 2025 is sitting in Baltimore awaiting a truck to bring it down here, everything I see and read is on par with what was said in this video. I am looking forward to driving this car
@drepark22942 ай бұрын
M440i coupe owner here. 23 model, it's an amazing car bro.
@misterdragzon2 ай бұрын
I’m 45k miles into it with my RWD 2021 and I still love it
@johanslabbert28692 ай бұрын
Nice review! This car gives me hope for the future of BMW. It shows they still know how to make a proper sports sedan. I firmly believe this is a better direction for the brand than any number of gargantuan SUV’s or forgettable FWD compact MPV’s. Hopefully this car can help remind people how good a good sedan really can be. I’m so glad it’s still a glorious inline 6 and not another highly boosted 4 pot. I’ve only ever owned 6 cylinder BMW’s, they just seem to have way to make that configuration of drivetrain work so seamlessly well, better than any other manufacturer. As the ex owner of a 335i, I can concur that M3 vs the fastest non-M 3-series model argument is spot on and has been valid for a couple of generations now. The real world usable performance is still more than adequate, it’s a more comfortable vehicle overall, more discreet and of course it costs a decent amount less. Make no mistake the M3 is a highly desirable well engineered machine and definitely has a significant performance edge in the right hands, but the 340i sounds like it’s still the one I would pick.
@pain.4972 ай бұрын
This looks way better than the M3
@Jesse-x4o2 ай бұрын
Negative my friend
@RobertOfStAlbans_2 ай бұрын
@@Jesse-x4owell, looks are subjective.
@Jesse-x4o2 ай бұрын
@RobertOfStAlbans_ come on man 🤦🏾
@Jesse-x4o2 ай бұрын
@RobertOfStAlbans_ People who drive these Fanboy in traffic when they see an M3.
@pain.4972 ай бұрын
@@Jesse-x4o not feeling the big nostril look of the new ones
@goatsplitter2 ай бұрын
Seeing the thumbnail photo and my first thought was "i bet Jack reviewed." Shore nuff! (And well done).
@colinoxenham61242 ай бұрын
I wish I could combine the dynamics and drivetrain of this with the looks and interior of my S5 sportback.
@davidalenick12462 ай бұрын
I absolutely love mine! In fact, I loved it so much that I got my wife an X3 M40i to go with it.
@Ty4202 ай бұрын
It still has that goodness of 2015-2019 to it
@nealp8852 ай бұрын
What do you mean?
@Ty4202 ай бұрын
@ It just has that character too it. Looks good and it still has a personality. Not a soulless overweight sedan.
@Onestundone2 ай бұрын
The solo gorilla jack videos are becoming awesome. As always, straight to the point, concise and informative. Thanks again boys
@hardykornfeld17332 ай бұрын
Jack, would you take the M340i xDrive over an Audi RS3. At a comparable price and nearly the same usability, the RS3 delivers a lot more character.
@chrissankar87282 ай бұрын
I’ve had a 18’ 330i with the b48 since 2020 & it’s been nothing be reliable. Water pump was replaced under warranty when I first got it. Aside from that just regular maintenance. Almost at 100k KMS. M340i will definitely be my next car.
@bucketfootbaseball2 ай бұрын
Like seeing you do things like this, but would love to see you do the four popper versions as well (230/330/430). I intentionally went with a 230 M-Sport over the M240 as after having an 86 I wanted something my wife would actually want to ride in and drive. The power of the B48 startled her enough to make me skip the B58. Of course it helps that I’m also a cheapskate 😂
@beb15272 ай бұрын
They did 330e
@MDCranium2 ай бұрын
I really love your reviews, you focus on the most important topics on how to analyze a car before buying. Can you please make a video for the Cupra Formentor?
@phillm1562 ай бұрын
I’ve looked into a used M340IX. Mark hit the mark😂, regarding my reliability concerns, Ekectric water pump(stupid ass design for negligible efficiency gains!) & the plastic oil filter mount(built in coolant heat exchanger) that leaks & causes oil to mix with coolant.
@Pamlicojdjdj14872 ай бұрын
And the AC Evaporator cores that start leaking Freon around year 4 or 5, that require pulling out the dashboard and center console to the tune of $6000 repair (Outside of new car or extended warranty) 12 hours labor to replace a $450 part mounted to the firewall. G chassis era BMWs are notorious for failing Evaporator cores.
@rizzodefrank2 ай бұрын
Adaptive is an absolute must option
@inomad2 ай бұрын
I like this is still offered with RWD.
@user-FTRU6GJ2 ай бұрын
I see no purpose of owning RWD if AWD is offered
@JoiceVaderd2 ай бұрын
@@user-FTRU6GJI work on my own cars and working on an AWD BMW is more of a hassle than it needs to be. Plus, I prefer the dynamics of RWD over AWD. I initially got into AWD because I thought it would be a better driving experience, but it wasn't as fun.
@clubracer62 ай бұрын
Amen, the only way I would get one.
@drewfer52 ай бұрын
@@user-FTRU6GJheavier, more complexity, added cost, slightly worse mileage, different driving characteristic. In warm climates, no need for X drive. More fun to slide the back a bit.
@ogmechsftw2 ай бұрын
not in canada. lol
@Zeratul1992 ай бұрын
I'm so glad you were able to make this video. You guys are my favourite car channel and the M340i is a car I have ordered a couple of months ago (we are still waiting for them to arrive in Australia but should be this month). In the description you also mention the Audi S3 in the other options, but for me it was between this and the RS3. Not sure about the states, but here in Aus they are very similarly priced. I know the RS3 is a better track performance car and a little faster, but I find the M340i better overall value. It's bigger, feels more luxurious to me, is a better daily driver and I find Audi interiors really bland (plus I hate their new steering wheel, where as I LOVE the new BMW steering wheel).
@rolexhulk17742 ай бұрын
Great review as usual. Just wondering, what does the add-on adaptive suspension do? It’s just a $500 option, so not too crazy..
@donl9270Ай бұрын
Softer ride in comfort mode, and stiffer ride in sport mode. I own a 2024 and it is a must.
@lamakicker692 ай бұрын
You missed the biggest change in the mechanical changes section, the brand new 3rd generation B58. Now with factory port injection! It’s not just a slight variant with the mild hybrid slapped onto it, it’s a new generation!
@jasonyoung64202 ай бұрын
I have a 2015 IS350 F-sport RWD (8AT), prior to that I had a 2006 5MT WRX Wagon (limited trim). I only bought the Lexus as an "in-between" car, hoping another desirable MT wagon would hit the market.... it's 2024 and umm, yep, still driving a 2015 IS350 F-sport..... I hate new cars.
@wearethehaunted38312 ай бұрын
Love my 23 M340I but will be upgrading to the M3 as a keeper.
@birdmanof992 ай бұрын
@Savagegeese. At a $70k price as tested, would you rather have this or the CT4V Blackwing? I know the Blackwing is more of an M3 competitor, but if you're looking to spend the same money, I'd be curious what you pick. Could be a good head to head comparison to do!
@jackholmes81052 ай бұрын
As a drivers car ct4v bw every day. If your looking to do only commuting and highway stuff the m340i is arguably the nicer place to be
@maxpennacchini3261Ай бұрын
Just picked up an F30 328i X drive and it's been great.
@shinedownfly2 ай бұрын
That red ring at top of steering wheel is gimmicky and ugly. The fact that you mention the competition and include the caddy ct5 and Acura but not the g70 3.3tt is BS! You guys never tested the sport prestige g70 with the brembos and adaptive suspension is also BS. I have one and it drives awesome and yes I’ve driven the Acura, Caddy, and Audi. The genesis came in 15k less than the equivalent BMW. (yes the g70 lacks the ambient lighting and dash screen but to me that’s not worth that much) the g70 also doesn’t have any electric motors or auto start stop which is a plus to me. I’ve had Audi and bmw in the past so I’m not a genesis fanboy or new to driving sport sedans. I still just can’t believe the disrespect the g70 gets. I’m not saying the m340 isn’t at the top but the initial cost plus running costs bring it down a notch and that’s were the genesis comes in-also the genesis turns heads way more than the bmw
@avis19782 ай бұрын
You are so right they love to forget that Genesis are there. I'm driving for the last 4 years a 2020 stinger gt limited 3.3T in canada that cost $30k less then the m340 and it's just as fun\powerful for daily use, and actually more practical then the bmw because of the liftback. I see more S5 and stingers than m340i on our roads. They are just too expensive.
@Hardcaslte2 ай бұрын
Same here. I have a 2023 G70 AWD Sport Prestige. Got it for $55k. I put on Eibach Pro springs and sway bars, AFE cold air intake, and PS4S tires and it's still $10k cheaper than a loaded 340i. The 340i that has less electronic features and a noted worse sound system. I've taken my car to Tail of the Dragon and it's crazy how good the G70 is. People just love to shit on Hyundai products outside of the elentra N. That's the only car people don't throw shade at, even though hyuandai across the board has been pushing the limits for the past few years. The past year or so savagegeese has been a little better with Genesis, but even 2+ years ago they would crap on Genesis products every time. They even claimed the G70 was the same price as a 340i in their review which was the biggest load of horseshit, and that it's only for people who want power to pass someone on the highway. They should really redo their G70 review and be more realistic about it.
@RoughButtskin2 ай бұрын
Let’s not pretend that vehicle is in the same class. I know it “is,” but it isn’t
@avis19782 ай бұрын
@CaptainFordo21 it's ok we are tired too from losers that try to bash the Hyundai group for no reason every time that a new Hyundai group vehicle gets review.
@Hardcaslte2 ай бұрын
@CaptainFordo21 cry more please. I grew up a Ford person, I've owned 5 mustangs through my years. I went from that to a Genesis GV70 and now a G70. I'm not a Hyundai boy, i literally just see how good Genesis is and bought one. Time to either grow up or stop trolling.
@rbergman742 ай бұрын
So glad I bought this car years ago. Been a wonderful car
@xyz-s5e9v2 ай бұрын
This car is so good❤ and better than overrated toyota/honda junks
@Pamlicojdjdj14876 күн бұрын
Anything is better than Honduh and Toyoduh junks
@shortckt24Ай бұрын
I have a 2023 rear wheel drive with the performance tire and cooling package and adaptive dampers. Great car B58 is really fast and fun to drive with excellent fuel economy.
@j_merlotte54672 ай бұрын
Great review Jack - I'm an owner of a 25 m340... in the past couple years I've flipped between so many vehicles its stupid. Golf R, 8Y RS3, integra type s, GRC, X3M comp.... Some of those were definitely a mistake to own but I didn't lose too much money during the golden era of covid car values. Regardless, the m340 is truly well designed. BMW's tech is best in class, the seats are great, ride quality feels supple, and the tuning of the b58/zf may be the best daily driver drivetrain I've ever owned - seriosuly its so good it makes the car. It has great power but it is soooo smooth. The ZF is so much better to drive around on the street, than dsg units found in vw and audi. All that said, this thing IS a compromise - its not going to tickle your car guy brain. It doesn't have that IT factor. But if you're tired of dailying a stiff or special car, this is really a fantastic option.
@pilotvanquish38862 ай бұрын
Interesting car list…. Any reason you let go of the integra type s, and 8y rs3 ? Both of those cars from factory have more mechanical grip than the bmw and arguably more “ feel”
@ChrisWalksFast2 ай бұрын
Which is your favorite car you’ve owned?
@CavernYogi2 ай бұрын
I totally agree. I was looking at Golf R / S3 / Type R before I put in my factory order for a 2025 M340i xDrive. All of those cars have their strengths, but after test driving the M340i it was the clear winner for my sporty daily driver.
@gotseoul1232 ай бұрын
You have not had all those cars lmao
@j_merlotte54672 ай бұрын
@@gotseoul123 dm me your email and I’ll send you pics of everything.
@noahkim83772 ай бұрын
This car would be perfect with three pedals. Cmon, BMW, it’s a compact sport sedan, not giving us stick shift option in three series is crazy to me.
@isserdigan28352 ай бұрын
Agreed.. tuned mine. Stage 2 MHD and XHP. Just bolt ons. Awesome.
@WootSkinsWoot2 ай бұрын
Was the xhp worth it? I'm in a 2020 tuned with a dp. Thanks
@peihenghu41552 ай бұрын
8:50 very true for the steering part. I test drove four M340i even turo one for a day when I was shopping. In the end, went with a 2.0 Giulia because of that steering and also agility. B58 and ZF best powertrain by a mile tho.
@AlphaOmega3332 ай бұрын
The ZF8 is such a huge component of this car. It really is the best transmission in its class.
@RyGuy_Racing2 ай бұрын
Been waiting for you guys to do a 340i review. Looks like a great all around option for guys like me that want a family sedan you can still take to the track. Pretty good value proposition used! Enjoying my FL5 type R, but eventually want to see what the fuss is all about with either the 340 or M3!
@acerimmer83382 ай бұрын
You know, when I was considering my last car the M340 was on the list. They have THE BEST drivetrain in the segment, hands down. But I found many other things a letdown. Suspension too stiff/crashy. Seats way too hard. And the lack of buttons/obnoxious UX was the final nail. Bought a lightly used G70 3.3T instead. 90% of the performance, much nicer looking interior w/ REAL BUTTONS, comfier seats and IMHO, better looking as well. It didn't hurt that it was considerably cheaper to buy and maintain. But damn if that B58 isn't tempting.
@ARentz072 ай бұрын
As an IS 500 owner, I've driven a G70 and was genuinely pleased with it. It has a great interior and was fun to drive in spite of being the four-popper. The V-6 would surely be a lot more enjoyable. Not to mention the G70 is far more affordable.
@Kevin-o5v2 ай бұрын
This guy gets it.
@gregsierocinski88267 күн бұрын
Had one for twelve months. Harder ride than eg a standard sedan, but it is a MThree. It’s a fire cracker!!!
@pt0082 ай бұрын
Until they come out with a "regular" 3 manual, I'll be hanging on to my 2018 340i xDrive manual, thank you.
@pete67052 ай бұрын
I’m probably going to get a used m340i for my next car. I was looking at the Audi S5 too, considering both of them, but I have a feeling I’ll end up choosing the beamer. One little thing I don’t like about newer cars is getting rid of the shifter. I don’t like the idea of turning a knob or pressing a button to shift gears, I want a shifter for that. Audi removed it for the new S5 too
@Pamlicojdjdj14876 күн бұрын
My 2023 VW Arteon SEL Premium 4Motion still has an old school shifter and works wonders. Very smooth gear change action.
@brownwhale55182 ай бұрын
I bought my used 2022 CT4-V Blackwing from the very same dealer. Drove it back to Nebraska smiling all the way home. Very pleasant experience except a title SNAFU, that was likely not their fault, but was ultimately resolved.
@marcuslee20262 ай бұрын
How are you liking the CT4? Hopefully they’re still making it down the road, but could be a potential upgrade from my EN.
@brownwhale55182 ай бұрын
@@marcuslee2026 I love the car. Only letdowns are for a few interior material choices, the steering wheel controls for the audio lag quite badly, particularly changing radio stations, and some orange peel. Other than those few things I have been loving it every time I drive it. And to me it still looks great.
@crumdoggy2 ай бұрын
I have a b58 in the X3 and it may be my favorite vehicle ever. Great highway cruiser, very practical. Very reliable but when it does break down it is not cheap. But everybody who buys a BMW knows this.
@ted64622 ай бұрын
How about vs the Lexus IS500?
@Cujo112 ай бұрын
I have 2021 and love it. What a car
@daniellivesey67492 ай бұрын
I think the issue with the m340i is its pricing is fairly close to the m3 though. Like... if you have $65k to spend on a sporty car you probably could stretch to $75k and get the top 3 series, even if you don't "need" it. So I feel like I see way more 330's and m3's than these.
@porschefanatic10492 ай бұрын
true. in the used car market the m340i is a good deal
@ruleslawyer2 ай бұрын
Pricing aside, the m340 is a better choice for a typical street driver. I know plenty of people who got the M for the badge and ended up selling it for something softer.
@KNRS9272 ай бұрын
The M340i is a little pricy with options but it is a lot more balanced, practical, and easier to use daily. And in terms of power, this has almost as much power as an E90 or F30 M3 and more than the famed E46 M3, so it’s still super quick and no slouch as shown here. Maybe the M340i is better bought used but there is a purpose for it.
@daniellivesey67492 ай бұрын
@@ruleslawyer I think if I were in that position I'd just modify the m3 to make it a bit softer. I daily drive a Focus RS (in winter anyway) and went down to 18" wheels for a bit more sidewall. There are definitely things that can be done for comfort.
@timflint252 ай бұрын
That super-wide curved display is pretty darn cool (what is that, a 25:9 aspect ratio?!). However, it's also a massive eyesore. I truly miss the days of simple black analog gauges with white numbers, maybe a red-orange needle, and some some slightly green lighting to them at night.
@WhackyLaneCombos2 ай бұрын
You made comparisons to the other "crappy" sedans in the segment. How about comparing this to the better sedans? RS3, Ct4V Blackwing.
@markm70312 ай бұрын
Alfa Guilia Quad anyone? That's my chioce.
@blackjack214772 ай бұрын
Maybe those cars don't compete with this?
@WhackyLaneCombos2 ай бұрын
@@blackjack21477 You think other sports sedans +- 3k starting price don't compete with this?
@WhackyLaneCombos2 ай бұрын
@@blackjack21477 I agree that the S4 competes "more" directly to this than an RS3. But to a car enthusiast I think the point is mostly moot when the dimensions and pricing are this close.
@ThreeDogsTwoCatsAndAWife2 ай бұрын
RS3 is too tiny…. As far as speed, the Model 3 dual motor easily beats it for $20K less
@aidangarrett72952 ай бұрын
I've got a 340i (F Chassi) xDrive with a manual - it's such a blast. I consider upgrading sometimes but the thought of giving up the 6 speed makes me sad. I'm sure I'll have to eventually, and the good news is that it's still a great platform.
@Digiphex2 ай бұрын
The display makes me feel like a tester on the manufacturing line rather than a driver. Someday there will be an analog package.
@ASK7865432 ай бұрын
Came across this channel first time, just can’t get my head how similar the voice is to Castle’s lead character Nathan Fillion
@hermit5272 ай бұрын
I own a 2020 RWD version of this car and let me tell you: BEST CAR I'VE EVER OWNED. Bar none. I currently have 95k miles on mine. I drive it day in and out. Recently just did a trans fluid, diff fluid, and brake fluid change. They were definitely worn, but not to the point of failure. Despite being a part of the covid batch, it's still a great car. Granted, I wish I had a couple more options like the Portimao Blue exterior with Cognac interior, laser headlights, Harman Kardon audio system, and adaptive suspension, but it is still a fantastic car.
@twotrackjack22602 ай бұрын
Companies like Focal, Morel, Audison and Audio Frog (and others) offer some great products to take that music experience to the next level.