2025 Ford Expedition - BETTER than a Chevy Tahoe?

[@benjanorris]

Oh look, another nicely designed and super capable, but unaffordable SUV, that majority of the population cant afford.

[@drjekelmrhyde]

That's why you have to do real estate so you can write some of it off. Seriously that's how they buy these things.

[@fhclappen8595]

Not to worry, we will send them to our favorite dump site Down Under. They have more money than brains.😂😂

[@dustinlou4695]

I feel like this accurately describes most vehicles these days. I feel like they are all just soooo expensive. For example I think a completely base work truck trim Tacoma is like... 35k or something. That's wild

[@The1SSGrant]

Of course it’s expensive, it’s a brand new large vehicle in 2024 lol. To be fair, the majority of the population shouldn’t be buying brand new cars, it’s a terrible idea financially. Being able to buy a brand new car when there are so many great pre-owned options is a luxury.

[@dustinlou4695]

@@The1SSGrant Buying cars you can't afford is the American way! Haha. I'm an engineer and make a respectable salary.. and still drive an 09 Impala I bought for $1000 haha. That's barely more than the average car payment these days

[@1234abbeyroad]

Bring back buttons!

[@DirkCannon]

They won't, cost to much.

[@cormaro13]

😂 old people tech

[@poppa_da_corn]

Common sense tech​@@cormaro13

[@AH-lw2bj]

​​@@cormaro13 I've never had issues with buttons, I've never had a touch screen without issues

[@DWH300]

​@@AH-lw2bjI've never had an issue with my digital touch screen infotainment systems. I'm guessing you're watching a large digital screen TV and if a newer model. It has no buttons because everything works from the remote.

[@Just_a_commenter]

The premiere pavement princess to ensure Karen can roll over any obstacles on her way to Target before zipping off to soccer practice for Ayden, Brayden, and Jaiden.

[@Hunterdietzman]

Perfect comment, even got the names right. Maybe KZbin new comments filtering/censoring is a good thing after all.

[@SGTOldSchool96]

Very rich or very in debt, Karen.

[@ChopperChad]

Tired comment. It's been done to death and why do you give a shit about what others do with themselves? Mind yourself and let others do the same.

[@fugginrambo]

​@@ChopperChadTelling someone to mind themselves over a comment that was harmless is so goofy

[@topxramn]

Ayden, Brayden, and Jaiden sums up the ethos of who this vehicle is for lol

[@TCxfan]

This trend of charging subscriptions for features is actually so depressing. You’re already paying $60-$80k for a car but you don’t own the technology and features that you paid for? $1k a year to use super cruise is just a blatant money grab and is a quick way to turn buyers off from the brand. Please use your platform and voice to let manufacturers know this isn’t what people want.

[@brownhairydog6472]

Cars are basically mobile tech devices now. And no one complains about this model for phones. I agree for stuff like seat heating where the equipment is already there but for software stuff which will need continuous updates a sub model makes sense.

[@TCxfan]

@@brownhairydog6472 Hmm, I get your point with phones but that tech is usually $1k or less to purchase and at most a couple hundred a month to use the full extent of the device and all features it comes with. BMW has already started charging for features like heated seats and heated steering wheels and I just worry this trend will continue to get more and more invasive and before you know it were paying thousands of dollars a year to use basic functions like remote start or lumbar support, automatic high beams or rain sensing wiper blades etc. Where do we draw the line? Would you pay monthly for air conditioning? Pay monthly for blind spot monitoring? Pay monthly to still use a backup camera or parking sensors? I just don't agree with being forced to pay to use a feature that's already installed and functional when I purchased the vehicle and paid the premium for a higher trim level. ( as sounds like you agree with too) It comes down to having the OPTION to pay for an upgraded tech feature at a future time. A new version of automated cruise control was released? Great. Let me CHOOSE to pay for an upgraded version, not simply remove the feature all together if I don't pay up every 30 days. These tech features will not be updated and improved monthly, but more likely, once or twice a year and yet I still pay each month even if nothing was changed or improved. Anyway, rant over. Ill just keep buying used cars I can afford in cash and not worry about all this nickel and dime nonsense.

[@brownhairydog6472]

@@TCxfan haha I won't be buying new either..the sub model is one thing, but I don't like all the mandatory safety nannies now fitted, half of which most seem to turn off every drive. The broader issue for legacy auto makers is how they will survive with Chinese cars set to dominate.

[@moogle68]

@@brownhairydog6472 NOOOOOO, it *DOES NOT* "make sense", because you are fundamentally misunderstanding the mobile phone plan. You buy a phone outright, which comes with software on it that is regularly updated because that software company that made your OS needs to develop it's software, as well as address security flaws as they are discovered, continuously to stay competitive anyways, so why not include updates for free to people that have already invested buy buying a product? The monthly subscription you are paying on your mobile phone is for DATA, because data transmission is a very costly technology, and the amount of data you are using determines how much you have to pay on a monthly basis. What Ford is doing is akin to Android suddenly charging you a monthly subscription fee for Android updates, because the Blue Cruise software doesn't need data to function, just a GPS connection, and Ford is going to be constantly developing Blue Cruise anyways in order to make it competitive with Chevy's Super Cruise, and Tesla's [whatever their autonomous Driving tech is called]. In order to have GPS guidance, you do need to transmit data, but most vehicles (and I'm assuming Ford's as well) with built in GPS guidance already come with a monthly fee to cover that data transmission, so assuming this subscription to Blue Cruise is separate from the monthly fee for GPS data, the Blue Cruise subscription will simply be a monthly fee for access something you already have. Besides, it's always good to be up to date, but what if you're fine with having a slightly outdated version of Blue Cruise? The updates to the tech from here on out are likely going to be only minor changes, and the addition of newly built roads, but when standalone GPS devices were popular, many of them had maps that were out of date, and yet they were still quite useful, so at the very least, Ford should allow you to still use your Blue Cruise even if you don't want to pay a monthly/annual fee, because the Blue Cruise software was already factored into the sale price, and even if it becomes out of date, it is still extremely useful.

[@cbotten106]

But many. people in cold climates are willing to pay every single year for a heated steering wheel and heated seats. Shouldn't they take that money? BMW was really onto something here. It's a potential goldmine!

[@parkergray5346]

This is over the top tech-y, I swear these companies keep making cars more difficult and inconvenient to drive..

[@spacedoutcowboy5211]

And to work on.

[@jasonvandervalk3679]

The head light controls absolutely stupid

[@coastaku1954]

If you can't work this out, you shouldn't be driving

[@stopdacap2991]

​@@coastaku1954 Driving isn't so difficult that all these new tech features should be considered necessary.

[@martinmcintyre7623]

Agreed. This type of tech is fine in the Navigator but not in this rig. Especially in this Tremor trim. It just looks out of place in a vehicle which has any off-road intentions. I think Ford feels that there is a big untapped market of millennials that will bite on a big SUV like this. Time will tell.

[@WhimOfTheWorld]

I was done when I heard that the headlights are controlled on the passenger's side of the infotainment screen. I don't understand how these decisions are made

[@DirkCannon]

Cost less to have it on the screen then make it a physical button

[@m_m_m_beer8917]

Have you seen the Mustang. It's sacrilegious.

[@rollingthunderinho]

Never heard of auto headlights? Why would you need to be changing it ?

[@gwvaio]

@@rollingthunderinhoever heard of choice? Or using the thing you paid for in the way you want?

[@DoctorSkillz]

@@gwvaioEver heard of deez?

[@adv.013]

The worst part of this is that dash and steering wheel

[@jjgravante]

I'm fine with all the updates except the capacitive touch steering wheel buttons, the lights buried in the infotainment, and the blacked out liftgate. I guarantee that liftgate will be paint-matched by 2026.

[@KingTheRat]

The blacked out liftgate makes it look like a police car.

[@66skate]

I always buy a black vehicle, so it would be paint matched now for me. That's a pre production model and nobody seems sure weather it will be like that come production time.

[@ianlerma8110]

As a ford tech…I can’t wait to see all the recalls, all the modules that are going to fail, all the electronically problems. Yeesh.

[@lego4virgo]

I don't think you're a Ford tech - but you aren't far off about the recalls.

[@MJT-DA]

@@lego4virgohow does that make them unbelievable when they dropped 5 spots on the CR reliability chart… and I had to help a student when theirs broke down at 64,000kms with a P0087 and P00C6 and if you look that up its a low pressure for the fuel system as the fuel pump failed… New fords are garbage and im not even a hater.

[@ENTERTAINMENTSERVICE]

@@lego4virgo ford fan detected

[@lego4virgo]

@@MJT-DA I've seen the pages of a real Ford Tech. I went to his. You go there too. You'll see why I said that.

[@lego4virgo]

@@ENTERTAINMENTSERVICE Person-unable-to-properly-read-a-comment detected.

[@qwefasdfasdfwaeqfasdfwaef]

What a nightmare of touch screens.

[@66skate]

Check out Cadillac.

[@jeremythebeer8609]

Exactly... I need none of this tech. My iPhone mounted to my dash with $10 Amazon clip does everything I need.

[@theglowcloud2215]

Headlight control in a touchscreen lmaoooo

[@jsinclair39]

I'm not opposed to it. You set it auto then never touch it again.

[@matthewm3912]

@@jsinclair39 Literally the same thing you do with a dial, except it is WAY more likely to glitch/fail.

[@theglowcloud2215]

@@jsinclair39 good luck with that when that touchscreen fails at the hardware level, or the OS shits the bed, or your car gets ransomware 😂

[@Windows98R]

and..? who touches headlight controls on a modern car. set it to auto and leave it.

[@sebafer2719]

@@Windows98Rthe problem is a lot of people don’t know it’s auto and they set it to OFF and then choose to forget about it lol I’m all for the touchscreen headlight controls, it’s harder to turn it off if you don’t even know how tf to access it 😆

[@greyestfox]

Maybe I'm being a boomer millennial but I prefer analog gauges and buttons for most things. The infotainment screen in my '14 Corolla barely works anymore and I can't imagine going through that with a screen that's my speedometer.

[@anajay78]

That dash wtf!

[@LOTOVIII]

It's terrible. Ruins the truck. What are these brands thinking...

[@jeffschultz8817]

When I saw the exterior was like… “I can finally switch from an F-159…” then I saw the interior and that entire dream died. It should have the same interior

[@powdernitz]

i don't care about all the dumb technology. that doesn't make a vehicle better.

[@theglowcloud2215]

you mean you don't want a smudgy piece of shit 77" OLED touchscreen that takes up the entire dashboard?

[@jasonvandervalk3679]

I agree it's getting ridiculous just keep the things that have always be practical and way they have been

[@coastaku1954]

I want it all, it looks so cool

[@osal83]

Looks like a Tahoe with GMC headlights

[@romanjohal6319]

Looks like a 1500 sierra

[@djmullet69]

Is that a Subaru Wilderness? 😂😂

[@KingTheRat]

The headlight control inside the entertainment screen menus is, to me, a complete deal breaker.

[@EIGHTLUG]

I have 5 relatively new Ford vehicles (2021+) and I rarely, if ever touch the headlight switch. I leave it on Auto and go about my day. What are you doing, exactly, with your lights that you need a full time switch? The DRL are auto on. Headlights come on at dusk, cloudy day, tunnel, or parking garage. They auto hi-beam. They turn themselves off automatically. What am I missing????

[@DirkCannon]

​@EIGHTLUG it's just another boomer wanting to complain for something they can't afford

[@theglowcloud2215]

@@EIGHTLUG when your shitty Walmart Android tablet that's glued to your dashboard fails, the software crashes, or you get ransomware, you'll wish you had a physical headlight override lmao

[@EIGHTLUG]

@@theglowcloud2215 nahh,… I have seven other cars. I’ll just drive one of them. NBD. Small issues like that have no effect on my life.

[@cbotten106]

Def a real turn OFF!

[@jonlosito2004]

Get ready to see A LOT of these sitting on the lot...

[@66skate]

Why?

[@EmillioMelendez]

@@66skatetoo expensive for the average person. Only people who could afford this in today’s economy is rich people , honestly 80K could get you a decent sized house or a suitable down payment for a good/bigger sized house.

[@66skate]

@@EmillioMelendez I don' t know what you consider average. I see these all over town where I live and I consider my area average. Some are willing to spend a bigger chunk of their income on a vehicle and then, there is the 84 month financing. At any rate, sales are pretty strong for the Expedition.

[@kornhead37]

I see 0% and $15K below MSRP in Ford’s future.

[@66skate]

@@kornhead37 You should be able to get $5k off without even asking. $15k possible at the end of model year.

[@Antiyoutubeyoutubeaccount]

Can’t wait for ford dealers to add a 30k adjustment on the 80k msrp

[@66skate]

On an Expedition?

[@Lensync7]

😂😂😂😂 I've NEVER paid a fake ass dealer "adjustment"... Those who do hate money...

[@tnails2397]

Adjustment days are done

[@kornhead37]

Yea not 2021 anymore. These will succumb to lot rot and reduced $10-20K from MSRP and won’t sell until 1 or MY later.

[@66skate]

@@kornhead37 They don't generally stock a lot of these. I bought a 16 Platinum and had to order to get exactly what I wanted.

[@spdcrzy]

Those steering wheel buttons are the EXACT same mistake Ferrari made. CAPACITATIVE = UNUSABLE. PERIOD.

[@dacmm]

Once your period's over maybe try using a car with said buttons for over 30 minutes and you'll realise the added functionality is well worth it.

[@ShawnKuhn-hv4qz]

​@@dacmmgood one😂

[@spdcrzy]

@@dacmm uh huh. Fuck capacitative buttons. ANYWHERE. The only place they belong is at a fast food kiosk. Anywhere else, and it's a legitimate security concern. Gloves? Cold weather? Wet weather? Good luck.

[@whitegoodman7465]

@@spdcrzy Correct, these ppl are idiots. Only reason car manufactures do that is cost cutting. Same reason ford went from actual button keypad on the door vs touch capacitive..which one works better in the winter?..easy choice.

[@AH-lw2bj]

And VW

[@konstantinrupasov4728]

Wow guys. Awesome new vibes there! Cannot tell if you are high or just happy, but it works!

[@TheStraightPipes]

Coffee, Wendy’s, lots of different trims, and a short amount of time to film

[@rudymoralesjr]

That dash is horrific.

[@carlosalba7790]

Looks like a chinese Tahoe

[@EndeavorsDnB]

Sure

[@NWI_Steel]

😂

[@LOTOVIII]

Hahahaha

[@AustinBruner]

Screens ruined it 😢

[@coastaku1954]

The outside and inside look absolutely SICK, I want one

[@66skate]

I didn't know I wanted it until I saw the Tremor model.

[@brandon2755]

I love everything about it except for the partially blacked out lift gate. It looks pieced together to me. Color match the whole damn car, if I got one it would be the tremor in black so I don’t have to see that, and also because I don’t like the full width led bar on the front.

[@The_action_is_the_juice]

You guys are my favorite reviewers. You truly love cars and it shows. You guys should own a dealership.

[@TheStraightPipes]

I’m down

[@darrellgrant7615]

I had a 2024 for a rental last year. The lane avoidance was unbearably intrusive. I also happened to have one that smelled like something was melting under the hood. Sure enough the rental company called me a few days later and asked me to exchange it for a Yukon XL because it was part of the recall where the Expeditions were catching on fire. I’ve driven a lot of the large SUVs for road trips and I like the GM brands way more than any other.

[@66skate]

You do know you can turn off lane avoidance? If it was being intrusive, that suggests you were doing a lot of drifting. May have saved you a ticket.

[@ethenjordan2010]

big no for that weird dash and screen

[@somerandomfella]

Those full length drls look pretty cool. Tastefully done..

[@jims98z28]

Enough with the screens car companies. We don’t like them

[@jeffs6090]

Speak for yourself.

[@drjekelmrhyde]

Why, when they can charge you $5,000 when it breaks in 3 years or when the CPU is so outdated to run newer apps.

[@AH-lw2bj]

18:45 yes Yuri this is a concern for anyone that does work around their house and doesn't also own a truck 😂 And great idea 😆👌

[@goncalo33]

Am I the only one that likes the blacked out tailgate? My only issue with it is scratches, etc. as the car ages.

[@joelbaker2172]

No, we don't like it. These screens suck.

[@mcnuggetapple]

Tbh I don’t mind a lot of screens or touch buttons but this trend that’s starting of putting headlight controls in the screen actually 100% kills any desire to buy a car for me. It’s a dealbreaker

[@richardboeing493]

I love how auto manufacturers are constantly trying to get rid of buttons and switches even though the consumer keeps wanting them. The whole making it cheaper to manufacture but saying it's more tech BS to make a overpriced POS more expensive

[@richardboeing493]

Course I also wish auto KZbinrs would stop promoting out of touch products.

[@66skate]

@@richardboeing493 They obviously aren't out of touch for everyone.

[@rdlangston13]

I have a 23 Timberline and the dash in this 25 makes my really appreciate mine. I do however low the IPAD/phone holders in the head rests and the split lift gate. Those two items are awesome and I wish my 23 had them.

[@mcleod_aka_doom1961]

I liked it till u showed the dash

[@GXKid06]

The back looks like a 2002 buick rendezvous with a blacked out tail gate.

[@MDKN22]

Nah its more like a GMC Envoy.

[@cpftank09]

This needs a Powerboost option like the F150. It looks they’re trying to outfit the rear for tailgating and other activities, but you’ll run the battery down quick like that.

[@supwell]

10:27 I can feel the moths attacking me right now 😂

[@TheStraightPipes]

Lmao

[@rangerlam]

Any word on if a Powerboost Hybrid option will be offered like in the F-150?

[@Nate-zy5ce]

Good review, guys, as always. Love the idea of an Expedition Tremor. Love the added road clearance, larger tires, skid plates, locking diif, new engine. Oh, but if only the hybrid Powerboost engine was an option. I'd love it if the 40/20/40 split bench leather seats of the Platinum Max were available as an option on the Tremor. Do you know if they are? Oh man, combining that luxury, functional interior of the Platinum Max in the Tremor, that would be something, especially those thickly luxurious 40/20/40 split bench seats. Not sure I like the new dashboard design and oval steering wheel. I would love it if I could option the fold out flat work surface of the front center console that comes on the F150's, that would be huge for me, but I doubt it is, so maybe I can create something removable to lay there when I need it.

[@woahwoah2207]

That interior is a deal breaker to me

[@robervin9107]

Jake looks magnificent with the vehicle

[@davidchurchill1651]

Does the Ford Expedition still have hands free foot trunk activation?

[@bulolo_wilber]

14:50 Needs a better GPU and CPU for the game, it's a little laggy tbh

[@jw6713]

7.3L Godzilla Expedition Please

[@jwillwork3683]

Excellent review as always

[@Tegger91]

I assume the dash is the way it is because of shared tooling with the Lincoln which has a pillar to pillar screen. It looks like a wasted of usable space, but maybe it looks better in person. Personally, I don't see the big deal about the headlight controls as long as the default is set to automatic and the high beam controls are still on the stalk.

[@Drewniversal]

I absolutely live to know what the reccommended Continental tire is!

[@TheStraightPipes]

You and me both!

[@cbotten106]

We all wait with 'bated breath!

[@jacobj.5145]

So when they releasing the expedition R?

[@TobyCostaRica]

3:49 really the tpms is displayed all the way on the passenger side

[@joebronxer1204]

Too MUCH SCREEN. Also, why the HUGE awful transmission dial when a column shifter takes up less space, is safer, and more modern.

[@grtelli]

@ 6:30 -> Shout out to Mr. Colion Noir 👍🏻

[@CTR_Dan]

Can you option the tremor without the inconvenience package?

[@kyawhtoo3879]

Shark fin antenna on the roof should be in center or make it twin antenna. Sorry, it is not a big deal for most folks but I just like symmetrical design.

[@gracesamuel889]

What cars do u guys drive Can we get a video

[@lawrencewalker6457]

Cool Subscription fees to use features your car comes with! Just what customers have been asking for!

[@user-qc7dr3cd3q]

Everyone needs to boycott this trend.

[@Ahmad_Khurram3008]

How much will the tremor and Stealth Perfomance Cost?

[@replyyt4198]

Was kinda hyped about this, thoroughly disappointed in this low effort gmc-esque facelift

[@mekg5430]

"Dirty Dopamine Rats" was a phrase I was not expecting to hear! 🤣

[@TheStraightPipes]

Well aren’t we all

[@Vernon-nd2yc]

Plus & minus shift buttons on the dash? NO either paddle shifter or a gear shifter

[@jmrdrgz]

Much more informative then TFL. Thanks

[@sharpshooter012345]

The front end reminded me of a 2020 tahoe.

[@cbotten106]

I wonder if GM sees the resemblance?

[@lainebrohm6821]

Respect for recognizing Bills MAFIA!

[@drk.walters]

That dashboard is hideous.

[@DesertRox]

That Tahoe looks great

[@justinstiff5641]

You guys are the best

[@DarrylJackson-e3t]

Congratulations FORD! Love the 2025 Expedition! I think this Tremor package is OUTSTANDING! The Platinum looks great. I love the split open/closing tailgate! What Dodge, GMC, and Chevy going to do! GMC! Garbage Men Collection! Jeep has competition now! Go BIG Blue Oval! GO FORD!

[@wafflesnfalafel1]

I like a good Tahoe but those are pretty sexy (split tailgate!) - thanks for the vid guys.

[@cburright6016]

I really like the screens. The lack of hard buttons is a deal breaker, though.

[@66skate]

The screens are awesome, but I like buttons for things often used like a down and up button for the radio, a main menus button and most of all, a radio tuner knob. All of the new Ford and Lincolns have only a volume knob now.

[@cormaro13]

How often are you touching these button like the headlight button 😂

[@66skate]

@@cormaro13 When I get the vehicle, I set the headlights to auto and turn on the fog lights. Never touch it again after that. The radio controls are what I prefer buttons and knobs for. I like those as simple as possible.

[@flyerholland]

The dashboard and steering wheel design really annoys me. i just want a traditional style dashboard not this... im not driving some lame EV powerbank.

[@jeffs6090]

The copper accents on the King Ranch remind me of the old Eddie Bauer editions.

[@kingsandwich8091]

Looks like they're ripping off the Subaru Wilderness line

[@moparflatline3711]

Well done, Ford! The expedition was overdue for a redesign.

[@islahismail]

More companies should use the split tailgate on their SUVs

[@PierreMyre]

No switches on lights is dumb AF. Thanks for the overview.

[@beardown6574]

Alot of cool features and gadgets. Lots of cool tech.

[@CaptainCJ97]

5:17 a completely unneeded change auto makers doing so many odd things

[@jfdoherty3448]

Great review!

[@funchfries]

I’ve always had a funny relationship with the Expedition. In appearance, it’s always been an “also ran” in the full size category. This might just be the best looking Expedition ever, and I’d still take a Z71 over it (and the AT4 is not even close). I will say the Navigator and Escalade has been a much closer run for quite a while. Hopefully people buy this, but the price, like everything else, is nuts

[@DCINC2]

Current gen does have the Timberline offroad trim/package available on the standard wheelbase only, unfortunately, minor lift and aggressive wheels/tires, diff lock etc. The current max tow kit also includes the dual range transfer case and diff lock.

[@seaeyeare]

Hello again! Im making my bi-weekly visit to humbly request the E46 M3 T-shirt design. - Thank you! XD

[@caseybrannon4975]

Two major problems with this truck. 1. The Tremor package isn't available on the Max. 2. Ecoboost only. I want the 5.0.

[@skwashua]

I was hoping to see a PHEV version. Guess I’ll keep the 2017 for now.

[@jordanbullard1190]

rotary gear selector next to the volume knob...what could go wrong.

[@robertk1049]

I have a 2024 Maverick Tremor. It's already had 2 recalls and not even its first oil change yet. I like the truck but don't see myself keeping it for the long term. Should Toyota come out with a truck smaller than the Tacoma I'll probably jump ship.

[@michaelyoung7911]

Gross I’m so sick of the removal of hard buttons! The more crazy electronics the more issues you’re gonna have. I’ll stick to my older early 2000 to late 90’s vehicles.

[@alexnewell8580]

At 11:54 a lot of newer european airlines have these phone/tablet holders. As well as the newer trains!

[@steven2723]

That dash looks awful holy crap. That has to be a safety issue too, you look like you cant even see the hood lol the suburban moms are gonna hit shit left and right

[@coastaku1954]

That's a design flaw with all SUVs, they're built too big

[@steven2723]

@@coastaku1954 I wouldnt say that specifically, I've driven huge (for me a 5'10 femboi) but I feel like I can see pretty well. I drove a k20 and an f250 and they didn't feel like I had my view obstructed. This has a necessary screen that covers a portion of your view and not to mention the center console adding a blindspot. This is more a safety concern but not really a flaw. You can get around it by lifting ur seat higher but short queens and kings will kill ppl with this thing lol

[@zurielashiagbor3897]

Damn This Looks Good!

[@nathanlewis3462]

Hate all the screens!!!!!!!!! The one main screen was more than enough! And why get rid of simple things like like lights. And stop with all the power stuff!

[@dbeckMSP]

@thestraightpipes can you guys do a test that shows if cars will turn off the lights when the car is locked/turned off? I know Subaru does this but if you can leave lights permanently on then there is zero chance they’ll be off the next time it’s night. People will argue Auto headlights work really well but the auto headlights can’t read the sign that says “turn your headlights on” as you drive through a windy road. These are real signs out here in New England. And what’s safer than touching the screen multiple times to turn on your lights for safety?? Whatever I can’t afford it anyway. Let the rich people crash or not use their headlights

[@cormaro13]

Why are you touching the headlight button so many times again , wouldn’t it be turn it on and leave it alone 😂

[@dbeckMSP]

@@cormaro13 I only know of one car brand that when you turn the lights to “on” permanently they turn off when the car turns off and that’s Subaru. Does Ford also do this now? And is it an option in the infotainment to leave them permanently on like it would be with a physical switch? If so then I totally agree, just leave them on all the time. Another thing that makes this silly is I imagine the high beams still have a stalk so you can flash those. So ford (and GM) didn’t save any real estate by eliminating hardware, they just reduced the functions of the existing hardware.

[@LaurinKramer]

They got me with the exterior and lost me with the interior. Reminds me of a Peugeot and Citroen Mixture (in the worst possible way).

[@BIGGIEBAG-XL]

That thing is hideous. Buy the 2024 while you can.

[@66skate]

I liked the Limited with the Stealth performance package, but that's gone now. The Tremor looks fantastic though.

[@iamswright1853]

United has had those headrest infotainment clips on their aircraft for a few years now.

[@greekindependence]

The check engine light is just for a bit of foreshadowing 😉

[@coreycodling6661]

Spent more time on the video game than the engine and drivetrain! Good on you for knowing what a dipstick is

[@mbsaxman600]

It does look strangely GM-ish from the exterior. Touch capacitive buttons still aren't winning me over and never will though.

[@cbotten106]

Strangely GM like Ford stole the early design studies and copied.

[@thewooginator83]

Why god? WHY??? Give us back our physical buttons!!!

[@Al-di3gr]

If you have physical buttons they couldn't charge you subscription fees.