2025 PSE Decree: They Lied About the Speed Rating!!

[@PSEVIDEO]

Sir, we under promised and over delivered. 🤣

[@loganroberson6558]

I like this. It's how it should be!!

[@jetskiordie7976]

It is super lame that you @psevideo advertise weights that are not depicting how the bow is delivered. WTF

[@optimuscrime608]

@@jetskiordie7976WTF are you talking about? That’s what we all want

[@BlackwaterBound]

PSE and delivered shouldn't be used in the same sentence. Still waiting for my bow from April.

[@joshuakendra7468]

Who will replace John Dudley?

[@Ezzie0304]

The production value of your new bow day videos has gone through the roof. Well done. Nice bow too.

[@LancasterArcherySupply]

Basically all of our revenue every year goes into making PJ look even better on camera than he did in the last video.

[@patrick.gomezgomez7269]

What are you using for a release ?

[@south_hunts_605]

@@LancasterArcherySupply i believe a little biddazzling on the glasses and the jersey would go along way

[@DwFritz23]

That is one of the most beautiful bows I have seen. That bronze color on the cams is nice!

[@south_hunts_605]

Love watching you shoot a bow man!

[@jonathanharpe4333]

This is great for the consumer. PSE is no stranger to making a fast rig. With these speeds hopefully the other “Big 3” take notice and start giving us numbers that someone can reproduce. I will say the MFJJ is doing bow test and getting variances between the Garmin and Traditional Crono

[@LancasterArcherySupply]

Chrono*

[@jonathanharpe4333]

@@LancasterArcherySupply 😂😂😂

[@loganmilesMX]

Good on them! Thats great to see. Like darton speeds, it is what it says it is!!

[@jasonnester9514]

Pse has always been good about ibo rating

[@traceelliot1360]

What is all the noise when you draw back? First time I have heard this much creaking on a PSE.

[@LancasterArcherySupply]

It’s the arrow rest that has no felt on it. It’s not the bow

[@jasoncourchaine3685]

The pse evo nxt 31 was way faster than the ibo rating, the decree looks awesome

[@setharter]

The EC2 cam doesnt get the respect it deserves. It can be put on a 6" brace and compete with the bows rated faster. I have one on a Fortis 33 and its crazy smooth and adequately fast for the specs. Rotating mods, 90% letoff, can change mods for even more speed. It is a great cam

[@Gibsonlife573]

That looks a lot like the old cam I got the 34 still at the house I'll probably never get rid of them I think it was called the PSE Evo 34

[@johnnewcomb5162]

Test the new Darton 31 it's moving, I seen the speed test on it

[@upstreamer1661]

PSE rubber grip. Wow!

[@martti1548]

Draw weight was about 1% over so it gives more speed, however fist time realistic numbers 🏹

[@jonathan_guerrero]

😂 No

[@ryanlipkin6964]

I know you are a pro but drawing a bow back without an arrow still makes me nervous.

[@petergozinya2607]

Lmao 🤣 why ?

[@LancasterArcherySupply]

*New bows come into the office* Me: *Watches as everyone draws them back* Also Me: (sweating) "Wow it would be not cool if this professional with decades of archery experience dry fired that bow for no reason."

[@ryanlipkin6964]

Hahahaha! Hey even Derek Jeter made an error once or twice in his career!

[@kentstigall4611]

​@@LancasterArcherySupply It does happen! 😂 Just ask Hammer!

[@jayfry905]

Beautiful bow

[@LancasterArcherySupply]

The Black and Bronze is truly something to behold.

[@Tmpr111]

My buddy Mathew wants to know if they send a toothbrush with it to clean out the dirt from the cam?

[@LancasterArcherySupply]

Back in my day we rubbed extra dirt in the cams just to make sure the bow wasn't too comfortable - didn't want it getting soft on yah.

[@Tmpr111]

😂😂😂

[@kentstigall4611]

Well the draw weight is 70.6 lbs and not 70 so "technically" it may not be over it's rated speed. Probably right at the upper end of its rating. BUT I've seen other PSE's at or over its rating which is unique in the industry.

[@SouthMainAuto]

Do you have any idea what the speeds would be PJ using a hunting weight arrow? Something around 450 to 500 grains. Assuming same poundage in draw length.

[@pjreilly3997]

For 450 grains….probably low 300s. Idk about 500 grains.

[@SouthMainAuto]

@@pjreilly3997 still really impressive!

[@patrickdoan1291]

Watch Podium archers video. He does 350,450, and 650 grain arrows at 30” and 450 at 28”

[@tylerparker3024]

Around 280 I'd think

[@tylerparker3024]

Maybe as low as 250

[@johnnewcomb5162]

Are you tuning these center of limb bolts?

[@pjreilly3997]

No….13/16 inches from the riser to the center of my arrow

[@drewolm]

New bow season! Things are heating up.

[@LancasterArcherySupply]

And the heat will only get hotter.

[@sinepari9160]

So PSE finally figured out how to get IBO from a little 400gr arrow lol. You wouldn't have thought would have taken a decade.

[@Outdoors67]

Pse makes good stuff.

[@LancasterArcherySupply]

Can confirm - their stuff is good.

[@damianniquette5980]

What sight is that?

[@pjreilly3997]

UltraView UV Slider

[@MrFornicater]

The draw weight was higher?

[@pjreilly3997]

No…. I show the draw weight in the video

[@MrFornicater]

@@pjreilly3997 the draw weight was 70.6 , take into account the variance in calibration between what you used and what PSE used for the draw weight a mere 3fps over is not a bid deal imo

[@ronconte4292]

You see a lot of bows 10 fps or more slower than rated speed. 70.6 lbs draw weight and 339 or 340 fps is basically just the rated speed. But you rarely see it. Darton is trying to publish "actual speed"s, but not sure how close they are.

[@jackbuendgen389]

Mfjj got at rated speed with the 35 st2. I can imagine the others have to be close

[@chanedowns3134]

Nice except I did not see that it comes in a Left handed version ........

[@LancasterArcherySupply]

I promise you that it is available in a LH version.

[@mikekupetsky6879]

So you're 3/4 over the 70 pound rating. Which probably accounts for your 3 ft per second higher I really thought you were going to show us something spectacular

[@LancasterArcherySupply]

Two things to consider: There are diminishing returns on speed the higher your draw weight becomes. and Most bows come in well below their advertised IBO speed.

[@MrMatznick]

Is that a Fast Eddie sight?

[@pjreilly3997]

No…..Ultraview

[@jrawhite8969]

Just looked and seems Dudley bows are no more

[@PhotoBob]

He’s with Hoyt now

[@jrawhite8969]

@@ninjasarereal5883 lol

[@Morpheen999]

@@ninjasarereal5883 He's got a big enough following any Bow company would sign him

[@WolfinWolvesClothing713]

​@ninjasarereal5883 well, you obviously have no idea on what terms he left, or why, and also why he went back, your opinion doesn't matter to him, hoyt, or pse.

[@dionysis84]

They already had the decree…. Just like they already had the evo/evolve. Gets confusing. Love PSE but come out with new names for the new bows instead of recycling them from a decade ago. Lol. I suppose it might save $ on trademarks or something like that. Regardless I can’t wait to shoot this thing. Still want last years carbon bow after all the positive reviews it got

[@davidcox9115]

I think the numbers would be staggering on the number of deer walking around wounded and die slowly from bow hunters. When the indains got rifles they tossed their bows why go back in time to gut shot or wound an animal when you can turn out its lights with a rifle.. I'm a hunter and x bow hunter. I have a question,? If you were to choose how to die would you want to die quickly or have a arrow shot though your gut... so tierd of everything bow hunting.. especially when you pay as much for a bow as you do a rifle.

[@pjreilly3997]

Rifle and Xbow hunters never shoot deer in the guts? If you get a good compound bow like this PSE Decree you can develop the precision to NOT hit the deer in the guts!

[@LancasterArcherySupply]

I'm not even that old and I can't tell you how many times I've seen rifle hunters here in PA shoot whitetail in the guts/back legs. There's something to be said for the "power" of a rifle encouraging people to take even less ethical shots than bowhunters, too. Both methods can be more than ethical, both can be harmful. Just based on the hunter.

[@JJ79_]

Atleast it has non black cams, i hate all generic black things 😅

[@LancasterArcherySupply]

*Whispering to own bow* "Don't listen to them, they don't mean that. Your black limbs look great."

[@lawrencefranck9417]

I only see two fletch tears on paper

[@pjreilly3997]

There’s 3

[@jasonnester9514]

Why do all these bow companies keep making short ata bows I don’t get that

[@BassWhoopinFishingTeam]

Because not all of us are built like Sasquatch. Short draw guys benefit with shorter ATA bows

[@jasonnester9514]

@@BassWhoopinFishingTeam I understand that but what about us 31’ 6’ guys

[@TreEngleArchery]

@@jasonnester9514 I am 6'4" and shoot at 30.5" (I'm sure my choice of release and d-loop affect that) - having said that, there are still quite a few bows out there that will stretch to 31" and beyond, not to mention grip, anchor point, d-loop, and release will all affect your draw length. Unfortunate for larger guys that so many don't reach 31", but there are still a bunch of options for us out there.

[@jasonnester9514]

@@TreEngleArchery I hear ya I just prefer 35-36” ata not many out there

[@jamietwigg5152]

​@@BassWhoopinFishingTeam27 inch draw and Ata doesn't mean as much as you think..

[@thecomplainer-my8jk]

All these companies making bows that all look the same. Same cams. Bummer

[@LancasterArcherySupply]

Hey, that means you can buy based solely on the feel of the bow in your hand and how it feels to shoot. Don't have to worry about cosmetic choices, then.

[@andrewanderson6683]

Add an E2 or S2 cam for some extra speed like 360 🎉

[@Schnot]

Msrp?

[@LancasterArcherySupply]

You can view the price here: lancasterarchery.com/products/pse-decree-compound-hunting-bow

[@DwFritz23]

$1,299

[@tonyvelez7614]

5

[@ullikuschal8000]

Testbthe speed again the garmin is Not corekt

[@LancasterArcherySupply]

thehgarmin has been reliablefor usofar in Our tessts

[@andrewanderson6683]

That’s what’s supposed to happen

[@Antlersandarrows]

Please stop showing bad habits. Every video you do you pull a bow back with no arrow in it to test draw weight. If that d loop breaks you just dried fired it. To many people watch you to teach them it's ok to draw without an arrow

[@DwFritz23]

As someone that accidentally dry fired my very first bow 3 days after I had it setup, I concure! I noticed it as soon as he did that.

[@MILongdraw]

First

[@LancasterArcherySupply]

Second

[@suelaugesen9665]

Third

[@tcnarber1]

4th

[@waynestevenson9613]

RUC

[@Lost_Hwasal]

This smells like a publicity stunt. 337 is pretty slow for a flagship bow. The new hoyt is 344 for example.

[@PoeOutdoors]

The bow is hitting 340, nowhere near slow.

[@LancasterArcherySupply]

You have to take into consideration the reason this video was made is that the bow actually hit above the advertised speed - and many bows don't even get to their advertised speed.

[@PersonalBestOutdoors]

So, you prefer an advertised IBO of 344 that only clocks with ac average of 337 from independent testing vs an advertised 337 that clocked in at 340? I know the archery community has a huge variety of preferences, but as a Mathew's shooter I would rather get a higher chrono speed in person than claimed in the website.

[@Lost_Hwasal]

@@PersonalBestOutdoors No? Why would you think i would prefer that? But since you are asking (and this is completely unrelated to what i said, no idea why you brought this up) that 1) we went back to ASA or a more realistic standard over IBO, and 2) bows shot at the exact speed they are advertised as.

[@Lost_Hwasal]

For the people to stupid to comprehend what im saying i guess i will spell it out for you. I think PSE knew exactly what their IBO speed was, and then advertised under it to get people to buy it because they "overdelivered", and possibly even collaborated with lancaster to make this video. Its like when a company sells shoes normally for $100, hikes the price up to $150, and then puts them "on sale" for $100 to get people to buy them.

[@ICU2B4UDO]

The 1st bow company that has lied about their speed rating??? Really genius?? Do you live on the Moon or do you just lie when it suits you??

[@PSEVIDEO]

We're the only ones who have ever UNDER stated it. There's some variances here and PJ got a cannon!

[@Below_Average_Sports]

Who woke up and pissed in your cereal

[@nicpaolo7940]

Someone didn’t watch the video.. Good on PSE! Only bows I’ll buy, only carbon bow made in 🇺🇸

[@Ibanezmusic1]

What a psycho lol

[@pjreilly3997]

How do you know where I live???? You creepin??????

[@GerardPatte]

Ilikeitalot😮 Goodonyoumate