For over 14 years I am driving a Forester 2.5 XT from 2007 and still enjoy each moment in it. I work in forestry and have to travel quite some distances between the forest sites I I need to visit. The 248 HP turbo is very fast and very comfortable. Once in the fields it also performs really good, in snow, in deep mud, on steep mountain pathes, I did not experience any condition the Forester did not help me out without a problem. On the highway it has no problem to accelerate very quickly between 60 and 100 MPH and 0-60 is done under 8 sec. When I see your video I think the new Forester performance still is a shadow of my 17 years old Forester, which is the main reason for me still to drive this oldie. And mind you, I record my fuel consumption for over a decade and this turbo normally uses 26 MPG, when I am in a hurry it drops to 23,5 MPG. So considering its performance not something to feel ashamed about. I really do hope Subaru will improve the Forester performance towards what it once was.
@steve88038 ай бұрын
@emerald1587 performance is average for its class. You have the 2.5T mazda's that will have the performance that you are looking for, but unfortunately they sell very little which gives the rest of the manufacturers in this segment zero incentive to compete. It's just a sign of the times.
@emerald15878 ай бұрын
@@steve8803 Depends on what you like. I prefer the boxer engine both on road and in the field, the extra ground clearance gets me through the deepest muddy trails. I love that in all these years regardless of weather conditions I have never had a problem with getting stuck during field visits, for example during a timber harvest or for inventories.
@steve88038 ай бұрын
@@emerald1587 How is the boxer engine better in the field or on the road compared to the Mazda? And I ask this as someone who owns a 2.4T WRX.
@emerald15878 ай бұрын
@@steve8803 I cannot compare this with a Mazda, but what I like is how it always delivers the power and the torc I am asking. I also am very pleased with the roadholding of the car, where the boxer also plays its part. But I do not claim this is the best car in the world, it's the best car for me for over a decade already. If you prefer your Mazda, good to see you have your best car as well.
@steve88038 ай бұрын
@@emerald1587 I don't prefer Mazda. I just said I have a WRX with the 2.4t. If you want a compact SUV with the 2.4t, Outback still offers it.
@Trekopolis6 ай бұрын
With each video I watch on the Forester I'm falling in love. Not with you sir, but the vehicle. I know it's just a crossover, but for me it would be ideal to own. Everything from tech to mechanical, it impresses. I've said this before, but it seems like Subaru thinks of everything that is most important to consumers without forcing you to pay-up for option tiers. Well done Subaru and thank you. I've not decided yet on which model, but without any question in my mind I will be the proud owner of a Subaru one day. Now, off to watch more reviews!
@sam-yau9 ай бұрын
5:47 so glad a reviewer finally spent the 3 seconds it takes to show the improved overhead trunk lighting. The dinky dim side lights in the last generations of Subaru were so incredibly poor when out on campgrounds and especially when being covered by various cargo.
@garrettpatterson94909 ай бұрын
These are very easy upgrades that cost almost nothing
@OutsideTheTargetDemographic9 ай бұрын
I have a video on my channel showing how to install a $10 led strip, and I have so far done both my Forester and my wife's Outback, and my sisters Town and Country. Illuminates the trunk AND like 40ft behind the vehicle. 👍
@sail1147 ай бұрын
@@OutsideTheTargetDemographic I did this on my '13 Crosstrek (Hella Marine LED), but have yet to find a suitable option for my '23 Forester. What did you use on yours??
@jparker18239 ай бұрын
Thanks Ryan! Definitely the best review to drop today.
@kbarrett18449 ай бұрын
The best 2025 Forester first look on YT
@timvalli32707 ай бұрын
Excellent review, we just ordered a 25 touring for my wife, we will be selling or trading in her 2011 outback 3.6 r with 180,000 miles which has been a great car with some quirks- she always wanted a forester
@MegaMarkus969 ай бұрын
Had the delima recently of choosing between the 24 and waiting for the 25 Forester, but loved the older setup with buttons and dials so that was my decider. The 25 does remind me of a Ford Explorer from like 2015, would love to see a more aggressive or angular design but oh well. Great video as always!
@agak618 ай бұрын
Me too but I chose to wait for 2025 few more weeks.
@andrewSUN178 ай бұрын
Totally agree with you. Looks like dated Ford or combo of dated Ford and Toyota. Very odd move. I still wonder who makes the final decisions with styling.
@BjCmeadows9 ай бұрын
I remember when Subaru Forester was the simple rough n tumble option that was always well below average new car price. Two trims, two transmissions, very limited "luxury". I don't think I'm the only one in the PNW who misses those days
@0HOON09 ай бұрын
Get the last gen while you still can. $3k+ less trim for trim.
@matthewjohnson12119 ай бұрын
I guess people want electric gadgets and luxury (heated steering wheel lol) -durability, performance, handling are an afterthought on certain models.
@phunk86079 ай бұрын
Yay the only place i watch for new Subaru review... Last Forester snow test 6 years ago convinced us to get a Forester!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@0HOON09 ай бұрын
Same here!
@minnybiker45059 ай бұрын
His reviews convinced me to buy a Subaru as well!
@corey93139 ай бұрын
Ryan is convincing me to get a Subaru at this point lol and I am not a fan of their boring approach. This bad boy is way better than I expected and standard Adaptive Cruise control is the best!
@martinr82789 ай бұрын
Whatttt?? Not TFL? lol. They’re great for rc cars/SUVs and their roller tests are one of a kind 😂
@jtwu89319 ай бұрын
It’s a Ford, baby
@aerienix9 ай бұрын
The surround view camera and ventilated seats bring this to the future!
@gregjoubert51189 ай бұрын
Have watched you for awhile. Always enjoy your thorough and straightforward reviews. They feel professional with some added humor and fun. I watch a lot of reviews and definitely think your channel is top notch. Thanks again. Be well.
@TawonezviMurambiwaChuru2 ай бұрын
I am loving Driving Sport reviews
@ShaneHyTen9 ай бұрын
I think this one’s a keeper and the color is gorgeous.
@VanderJam9 ай бұрын
I'll keep my 20222 Wilderness. I love the perfect mix of screen, buttons, dials and switches in mine. Recently got an outback loaner and HATED having everything buried in the screen and menus.
@бредлит6 ай бұрын
20222....😳🤪
@factweekly11704 ай бұрын
huh? they share the same screen?
@JoeBuck-uc3bl9 ай бұрын
I got the 2024, the LAST chance to get one new before that obnoxiously huge touch screen. Love the knobs, love the SMALL screen!!
@calvin-9 ай бұрын
I hear ya. I got a '23 Sport, and love the physical HVAC controls!
@thinker23289 ай бұрын
Physical hvac controls are better - sad they changed
@jtwu89319 ай бұрын
Current owner of 2020 Sport, nothing in the new one makes me want to trade it in for this one, the $7000 price bump doesn't help either.
@OutsideTheTargetDemographic9 ай бұрын
18 Forester 6MT, we just put the wife in a 2020 Outback. The physical knobs and dials are hands down faster, easier, less distracting, and more intuitive. Oh, and repair costs will be in the double-digits of dollars, vs four digits for that expensive, slow, low res iPad in the Outback.
@ZachariahConnor9 ай бұрын
I love Subarus but who is styling the front ends of their cars??
@rodneywk19 ай бұрын
Exactly! It screams "Ford" to me. Not he best look IMO.
@BusterKitten9 ай бұрын
not the best look, but then it doesn't have that gaping whale shark look like some of the Toyotas have. Those things are hideous!!
@myplaxismodelisbetterthanyours9 ай бұрын
Toyota
@LugsyTL9 ай бұрын
You can always tell designs that are "done by committee"
@bfraumeni9 ай бұрын
Foryota
@TodayWithDustin4 ай бұрын
I just bought a 25 Premium and I don’t have the driver attention monitor. Kinda glad I don’t have it. I drive up a mountain for work daily…the power is PLENTIFUL in this vehicle. Maybe it’s the elevation or something but the power really isn’t an issue.
@1RunnerDad8 ай бұрын
I regularly drive Seattle to Billings. That car would let me make the trip with only one stop for gas. Awesome. Can’t wait for the hybrid for better city mpgs. I also take it to the PCT near Seattle, and to camping sites northeast of Missoula. Seems like it still does Forester things really well. I am really looking forward to (likely) getting it.
@korling999 ай бұрын
Bring back the XT!
@Doc18559 ай бұрын
Only 4% of people buying the Forester bought the XT. That’s why Subaru dropped it
@LAAO3699 ай бұрын
@@Doc1855i was one of those folks in 2017. Haven't sold it because I love it that much. Manual would've been cool but I'm sure sales would’ve tanked even more on it
@korling999 ай бұрын
@@Doc1855 I bought one - great car, but had a cvt issue. I ended up trading it in for a new 2017 Forester with a manual transmission - still going strong. I will be keeping the manual for a long long time - my backup/utility vehicle.
@Doc18559 ай бұрын
@@korling99 I’m happy for you
@Doc18559 ай бұрын
@@LAAO369 I’m happy for you
@letsgo_inc9 ай бұрын
The older styling was better for me. Looks to be an improvement in all areas. Lack of power remains and issue and the reason I opted for an XT Outback
@mumbachabwe88819 ай бұрын
I agree the older version looks more subaru and easily distinguishable. This one is more of a ford.
@kenhoward35125 ай бұрын
@@mumbachabwe8881 I've never thought looking like a Subaru was a positive trait.
@timkline1629 ай бұрын
I just got me a Crosstrek Wilderness this weekend, mostly thanks to all your great videos. Would have gone with Forrester but I didn't want the old outgoing model. So when my lease is up in 3 years I'll probably go for a Forrester wilderness with this new version.
@fuglong9 ай бұрын
Why would a person lease a vehicle? I don't get it, pls explain. It's like renting a house to me, you only do it if you're forced to
@timkline1629 ай бұрын
@@fuglong I get bored of whatever I drive after 3 - 4 years and would end up trading in my financed car early, which means I lose money if I don't get a good trade in value. Since I always have a car payment, it's cheaper to lease and I have the added benefit of my car always being under warranty because a lease is up in 3 years, and I don't drive nearly enough to go over the mile limit. Cars are also depreciating assets, unlike a house :)
@fuglong9 ай бұрын
@@timkline162 ah cool, makes sense. Thanks!
@michaelptm22699 ай бұрын
What a great video. Amazing job!! Best channel out there by far.
@philmilhoan76569 ай бұрын
Think I'll hold on to my 2022 loaded Forester Limited for now.... Great review!!!
@KD-lb9bgАй бұрын
I like a lot about this vehicle and I will in all likelihood be buying one as soon as they release the hybrid version. Excellent first look 👀 video, thank you very much.
@brentmiller84942 ай бұрын
Loved this review, so thank you for putting it together. I remember my 2004 Forester was a tank in the snow when I lived in Littleton, CO but was way underpowered and had some other shortcomings. Now, I want to replace my gas hog 4runner next year and looking at the Forester Hybrid or Crosstrek Hybrid. I really wish they made a plug-un hybrid or EREV model would be awesome. Consumer Reports just named Subaru the most reliable automaker, surpassing Toyota / Lexus and I believe it with their simplicity and excellent build quality.
@giovannymolano9 ай бұрын
Subaru Explorester
@23chicco7 ай бұрын
hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha
@RareGenXer5 ай бұрын
Ford has the Mustangmaro
@justcollectingdust4 ай бұрын
Who cares if it looks like the ford front end.......these Foresters run forever and have the best AWD system made.
@lloydzufelt751418 күн бұрын
I think my 2018 Forester is one of my best car that I ever had in 45 years of driving. 12 different cars.
@carlosbertadillo33749 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see the wilderness model! Hoping to upgrade from my 06 outback 3.0
@andersfalck66339 ай бұрын
Nice to see, I had no idea it was already on show! I have the former generation with a under-dimensioned hybrid engine, here in Sweden, and it is smooth and tooth-less, but also very senstive to side-wind in high speeds. I would love to hear if u did any such observation on this newer version now?
@Fredsreviews589 ай бұрын
My problem with the Big display is they hide the Front Collision Mitigation under many button hits. FCM is so sensitive in my Ascent it almost causes accidents when I need to scoot between traffic
@johnshuey3292Ай бұрын
I have a friend who just bought the 2025 Outback Wilderness raised an extra 1.5" by the dealer. It has almost 12" of ground clearance.
@cyrea17 ай бұрын
I have a 2018 FXT Touring and I LOVE it! When it's time for my next Subie, it'll have to be turbo'd or hybrid as I can't imagine losing 100hp in the transition.
@davidmahan4160Ай бұрын
It's not fast, it's not economical. It is safe, earning an IIHS Top pick+ award. If you value the safety of yourself and your family it's a good choice. It's comfortable on long journeys. It's capable on and off road, its not a rock crawler, With the right tires it's good on ice, snow, mud.
@lucsoh229 ай бұрын
Hey Ryan, the Forester Wilderness 2025 will have a small screen with more physical buttons. So that's good for those who don't like the big portrait screen.
@GooseWurkz9 ай бұрын
How do you know this? Whats your source?
@0HOON09 ай бұрын
@@GooseWurkzThe Wilderness is still on the SK platform for 2025.
@SimulatorsStudio9 ай бұрын
Definitely not true, as the Crosstrek Wilderness has the big screen like the other newer Subarus.
@roberthunt65409 ай бұрын
@SimulatorsStudio 25 Forester Wilderness will be carry over of current Gen. W/ no change
@brucekatkin53109 ай бұрын
I have a 2024 Crosstrek with wireless charging. Same issue. Although Subaru states the charger will automatically centre on the phone if it moves on the pad, this does not happen. I got fed up and plug it in to charge.
@lukiw70449 ай бұрын
Another exhaustive review with off road drive at every weather conditions. Props to Subaru for symetrical all time AWD. Great review. Greetings
@hogglewart9 ай бұрын
I 100% bought a 24 Sport because of this channel. I feel I made the right decision for me, but I do hope the Foresters maintain what they've always focused on because there's a lot of us that will want another one in 15 years. This is a fantastic channel.
@hankitytankity9 ай бұрын
Please, please add a turbo option. It would not only solve the problem of speed, but higher altitude loss of power. It’d just be nice to have that extra oomph when you need it. Please Subaru.
@drivingsports9 ай бұрын
Not happening. Hybrid can fix that too.
@billricheter56789 ай бұрын
No turbo needed. Just adds complexity and cost. People need to relax and maybe slow down a tad.
@patrickg84299 ай бұрын
Then I’m not buying another Subaru lol I want more power, regardless of turbo or hybrid. The current engine and CVT are not suited for California freeway on-ramps, you cannot get up to speed when merging, very dangerous sometimes
@valdius859 ай бұрын
The factory that makes Forester already makes 1.8T version for Japanese market. So just push your local dealership to bring it to North America. The engine is not as fast as the old 2.0T, but it offers much more torque so definitely better acceleration then 2.5NA.
@koneking25699 ай бұрын
Doesn't need a turbo, just more displacement. A car that size with a h6 would be perfect.
@valdius859 ай бұрын
I own 2020 e-boxer. In four years this gen seems like a good replacement. It has what I want and not much I don’t want. It also still offers good visibility and square trunk. I hope there will be trail hybrid with all the features inside 😂
@jasonswift70988 ай бұрын
Subaru needs to make front parking sensors Standard on all model and trim grades there is no excuse for not having it in 2024/25 they are way behind on that. The engine needs major upgrades and is not up to the market level, make the FA24F 2.4L turbo engine standard.
@veronicaf.66804 ай бұрын
I’ve had several Foresters and am waiting delivery on a White 2025 Sport. My others were all the Touring model but they put suede on the seats for 2025 which I didn’t like since I have dogs. I never had a problem with leather but I didn’t think the suede would hold up with dogs dirty feet and panting. I’m very disappointed that they no longer make it with a turbo in the US. I loved the turbos I had and really miss the power with that option. As you have shown, without the turbo, it has poor acceleration. Because of that I almost didn’t go with a Subaru this time around but decided to give it another try due to the remodel.
@milesperhour49984 ай бұрын
Maybe a hot take, but I preferred when the entire console wasn't a screen. I had a small GMC SUV and the screen was no bigger than 5 inches. Most of the controls were still manual and physical. There CAN be a perfect ration of digital and buttons. I wish the screen on this wasn't so prevalent and significant to the driving experience, but at least the speed and engine gauges are physical. Always preferred that. I also miss the much more significant visibility. drove a 2015 Forester for three years and really had a great driving experience.
@Rnd02098 ай бұрын
We loose the second screen in the 25! That stinks! That screen is such an awesome feature. I have live MPG, date, and weather up there!
@Jerome-iwnl7 ай бұрын
Hope the wilderness version of this makes it to the philippines! 🇵🇭
@ericlindberg92363 ай бұрын
My biggest complaint with 2015 Forester is the Seats. They are so uncomfortable. Nice to see they have finally addressed it.
@craigo21429 ай бұрын
Come on hybrid!!! I hope you talk some about the differences in driving on and off road between this and the Crosstrek.
@joanfrazier297116 күн бұрын
I have the 2025 Sport and I think it has great pick-up speed.
@edsmith98559 ай бұрын
Getting tired of "new" Subaru models that are just basically minor upgrades. I don't know why they stubbornly refuse to upgrade the powertrain. They desperately need the hybrid, and some sort of turbo for the Forrester and Crosstrek with 200+HP. to fit in between the2.5L and the 2.4L outback turbo. Subaru used to have this segment pretty much to themselves, but competition is very stiff now, and they need to up their game. I am a Subaru fan, but not sure I would buy another, with all the competition they have now. They still have probably the best AWD system outside of full off road vehicles, but that is their only clear advantage they have left over the competition. Edit: BTW, where is the "Snow" part of the review? This was more of a "first drive" than a review. Dont mean to sound like a complainer though; I love your channel. It is my favorite YT review site by far.
@HaSaN-KaRaKuS9 ай бұрын
I love this cahnnel.❤ Especially with Subaru. 👌
@PavaNeo3 ай бұрын
Thanks for this review, I will buy it in 2029 when it gets cheaper for no reason. Gotta love how car prices work.
@antoniolepore81559 ай бұрын
Thanks Ryan. You do a great job. I really enjoy the videos.
@Selassie2319 ай бұрын
Being an 2022 OBW owner and also owning a 2020 civic hatchback, I've noticed that the lane keep assist system (LKAS) in the outback acts like it wants me to keep my hands on the wheel but when I do it gets angry if I don't let it do what it wants to the point that the steering wheel will start to jerk (dangerously in my opinion) until I turn off LKAS. I have let go when it does this when no other cars are near and it will throw me into either adjacent lane when it jerks. My Honda gives the more assisted driving experience.
@PBandJ258 ай бұрын
Gret video! You put it through its paces! I think I'll test drive on the 4th of July holiday weekend.
@poturbg86989 ай бұрын
Great review! I have and love the Crosstrek Wilderness, but the lagginess of the screen's response has been an annoyance most reviewers point out. Is the Forester any better? Another issue, and I'm thinking the Forester has the same problem, is that most normal-sized phones will slide around on the wireless charging pad during normal driving--so no charging takes place. I gave up on using that feature.
@drivingsports9 ай бұрын
Same system. Didn’t notice any difference.
@lilianm71519 ай бұрын
I really hope Subaru will give the Wilderness a more powerful engine. Great video.
@zackdemundo9 ай бұрын
Ryan - the ten seconds you take on cars like this to see if you fit in the back is very important to me as I look for my “campable” vehicle! As for handling, I look forward to trying the improved system out. When one experiences the previous Forester with Subaru’s mild acceleration, I have always found them to be Russian tank simulators. However, for all the extra capability one gets, this is worth keeping in my short list.
@keithdonaghy53258 ай бұрын
Excellent information. Have not seen a review yet that mentions the benefit of Subaru dropping the thermo control valve for the 2025 model. It was quite an issue with the previous version of engines that had it.
@atmartens9 ай бұрын
We own a 2021 Outback with the natural aspirated engine, and it's okay. My wife didn't want the turbo because she wanted the better gas mileage. It's slow. I'm looking at a next car, and as much as I do like the looks of this, I can't get over not having a more powerful engine option. Subaru not having the turbo option is such so unfortunate. I am also curious when there will be a Wilderness, and what all that would include. One of the things that bugs me is you can only get cooling in the Touring. I love the look of the wilderness, especially in the blue color they have in that trim, and that's a feature I wish you could get.
@adamblakeley58659 ай бұрын
In regards to the power output… I have a ‘22 Crosstrek Limited that I’ve had for a little over 2 years, which has the older 2.5, but let’s be honest, the new one isn’t that much different. Anyway, I’ve found that it accelerates much better at 1/2 to 3/4 throttle, especially at highway speeds, than it does at full throttle. Full throttle seems to overwhelm the drivetrain and bog it down more than just giving it a few less beans. Just an observation as kind of a work around for the lack of power. Other than that I love my CT. And if you’re looking for speed and quickness in a vehicle, these aren’t really the ones to be looking at anyway, but it just does so many other things well.
@antoniolepore81559 ай бұрын
The take rate for the old Forester Turbo was not high. The issue with the old Turbo was it used Premium fuel. Put the 2.4 liter turbo from the Outback in it (using regular fuel) and it will sell. Do you think Subaru will ever put the Outback Turbo in the Forester?
@0HOON09 ай бұрын
Hybrids are likely the future.
@drivingsports9 ай бұрын
This ⬆️
@antoniolepore81559 ай бұрын
@@0HOON0 They ought to make the Hybrid as the base engine and the Turbo (from Outback ) the performance/Wilderness engine.
@adcurds69 ай бұрын
Great review as always. The one thing I would point out is to use SI DRIVE when passing. You noted it when testing 0-60, but an application for SI DRIVE is for passing. Anything helps right. Thank you
@drivingsports9 ай бұрын
SI-DRIVE only changes throttle mapping. At wide open throttle it makes zero difference. WOT is WOT regardless of mode selected.
@onefortexas23799 ай бұрын
Last week, I bought a 2024 Crosstrek Limited with a 2.5-engine and yes it's slow but it's my wife's car. I drive my AMG C63S without her in the car for real speed.
@theadambragg9 ай бұрын
I’m currently watching you smile and laugh through the backroad turns now… I love that you make your job fun! Great video so far bro.
@theadambragg9 ай бұрын
As always… well done and entertaining to watch. Riddle me this… whyyyy have they not turbo’d the forester wilderness?!? And any rumors of an ascent wilderness in the future?
@drivingsports9 ай бұрын
I think it’s a pricing issue. More power will be from the hybrid. No word on Ascent.
@theadambragg9 ай бұрын
@@drivingsports makes sense. I’m less concerned about passing power and more with towing. Will keep an eye for the ascent wilderness and hybrid forester. Not sure why, I just like the forester more than the outback. Although overall interior is smaller, it feels more roomy.
@dawsongranger49409 ай бұрын
@@theadambraggI would not buy any Subaru for towing, or any CVT vehicle for that matter. If you need a crossover for towing, get an explorer or used highlander with a v6. Maybe even a maverick
@theadambragg9 ай бұрын
@@dawsongranger4940 I’m really digging the pilot trailsport. I would only tow up around 3k lbs so with a 5k lb capacity should be fine with that v6 on the pilot ?
@galahador9 ай бұрын
What a great video! Tnx
@joshc6069 ай бұрын
Good review! But HUD are amazing! Big safety improvement with HUD.
@ericg90926 ай бұрын
I'd really like to purchase a new Forester, but the lack of horsepower just won't let me do it. I commute 1.5 hours for work 3 days a week and need the additional passing hp of other vehicles. I with they'd bring back the XT turbo.
@MKNYC_9 ай бұрын
Pretty wild how much that front end looks like an ugly Ford Explorer. Will this end up being another "quirky" Subaru design?
@fazo43539 ай бұрын
I thought it was just me that noticed that ford look smh
@FordEnthusiast4139 ай бұрын
Which Ford Explorer are you referring to? This does not look like one at all
@johnnybgood78129 ай бұрын
I like it.
@0HOON09 ай бұрын
The SJ and SK generations are more attractive to my eye. But this isn't as ugly as I thought at first.
@Laughingtulfo9 ай бұрын
Will the older foresters like 2019-24 hold its value because of this new design?
@judymlowder9 ай бұрын
I love your perspective. It's like none other. Nice work!
@CaliforniaCruisin9 ай бұрын
Maybe I missed it, but where in Montana is this? Looks amazing. Great video as always 🙌
@drivingsports9 ай бұрын
Outside Missoula.
@CaliforniaCruisin9 ай бұрын
@@drivingsports thanks!
@stevendrake4779 ай бұрын
Everyone talking about the front end looking like explorers. It looks more like the new honda crv styling to me.
@mikebayer58239 ай бұрын
My 2016 XT has Hail damage and it still looks better then the 2025!
@yippie68629 ай бұрын
I think this 2025 model is the best looking one yet. To each their own.
@mikebayer58239 ай бұрын
@@yippie6862 lol! If I wanted a ford explorer I would buy one.
@yippie68629 ай бұрын
@@mikebayer5823 Doesn't look like the much larger Explorer to me. Similar headlight design isn't enough for the two to look alike IMO.
@myplaxismodelisbetterthanyours9 ай бұрын
*than
@delennwheeler19539 ай бұрын
The 2025 looks like a Rav4 that merged with an Explorer. Don't like the look. Also hate not have knobs for the infotainment console.
@12463trf9 ай бұрын
Great review! Though I'm laughing at how everyone bashes the speed /accel, and yet when I tried a 24 model this week I had a blast and found it extremely peppy! (Likely because I'm not a speeder, and used to a 2001 VW new beetle) I'm still deciding between the CRV, RAV4, and forester, but the new 25s are adding another dimension I'll have to consider 😂
@mattbreidenbach9 ай бұрын
You talked a lot about how you like the seats and think the seats are an improvement which is good to see. I know its been years since you've probably tested an SJ Forester, but how would you say they compare? How would you individually rate SJ seats to everything else you have reviewed? Personally on drives over 45 minutes i get sore and uncomfortable in my 2016 touring that i bought last year. And the lumar support feels like too much even with it fully moved back. Trying to figure out if this is a universal experience or if i just need to adjust my seat more.
@0HOON09 ай бұрын
The previous model's were just ok. Drove a family member's Crosstrek and it was much more comfortable for long drives. So this change is a big step up.
@drivingsports9 ай бұрын
Try out the new seats. I think you’ll see they’re a big improvement.
@Anhedonis9 ай бұрын
I’m glad to hear the seats are improved. There’s nothing wrong with the current seats, but the head restraints are only good for navel gazing.
@We-Cook-It9 ай бұрын
I have a funny feeling the Wilderness version will be a Hybrid due to the fuel economy the current Wilderness have and like you said of the hybrid torque it might come out torquier, who knows what will happen. Awesome video as always👌🏽👍🏽👍🏽💯
@EricGrassi9 ай бұрын
I had a 98 Forester S and a 21 Forester Sport. I absolutely HATE how this one looks. It helped me make my decision to get a 24 Legacy Sport late last year.
@GayrimenkulDanismaniDurmusUmar2 ай бұрын
Great car
@bigzach3229 ай бұрын
Gas tank size was actually one of the primary reasons I bought a Crosstrek over the competitors. It is basically the same discrepancy as with the Forester. I think almost all other subcompacts were less than 14 gal compared to the 16.6 gal Crosstrek. That makes a big difference when you drive a lot and want to reduce gas station stops and also be more confident driving in more remote areas.
@hanlector9 ай бұрын
I hope they improve the latest hybrid, we've had hybrid (2 litre boxer) Foresters in the UK for years and they're slower than your 2.5 ! I have a 2024 hybrid, it's not quick but it's still a great car. I'm hoping they bring out a plug in hybrid over here when we eventually see the new model.
@WaiIpChungFMOclinic9 ай бұрын
Getting mine in September to replace my 2021 Outback. Can't wait.
@Doc18559 ай бұрын
Our Outback still runs perfectly after 5 years, But my Forester Touring was the Biggest POS. I was a complete LEMON 🍋. After 5 years, it only had 15K miles after 5 years because it was in the repair shop more often than it was on the road. The last 12 weeks of owning it, it was in for repair for 9 weeks. I traded that 🍋 in for a new Toyota TRD Off Road. This was in 23.
@myplaxismodelisbetterthanyours9 ай бұрын
They are hit or miss. I had terrible luck with a couple in the first year of ownership. I've had a Crosstrek, two Foresters (one XT), two WRXs (EJ and FA). I had issues with 4 of the 5. Not sure I'll ever own one again, especially if this is the design aesthetic they are moving towards
@Doc18559 ай бұрын
@@RRr-yl8zr I did, but the dealership refused. Years ago I had to take a Nissan under the Lemon Law. It takes 2 years to get to court. During those 2 years, you CANNOT drive the vehicle, but you Must keep it registered And keep the insurance on it and if you’re making payments then you Must keep up with your payments. So this is why I didn’t take my 🍋 under the Lemon Law and because of our local Subaru dealership, when it’s time to replace our (my wife’s) Outback, we’ll drive the 3 hours to Spokane, Washington to replace her Outback.
@Doc18559 ай бұрын
@@RRr-yl8zr I dunno about other states but that’s how it is here in our Communist Liberal state of Washington.
@jamesleasure88368 ай бұрын
I really like this. They got rid of a lot of the "quirky" design elements, like the overly angled hood layout.
@bho64869 ай бұрын
Looks wise, it kind of reminds me of the Suzuki Grand Vitara. Wish it was a hybrid. Then I would definitely be interested.
@johns68169 ай бұрын
Seems a shame to have just the 2.5 boxer because it did look like fun to drive fast on gravel. At least give us a lock out option for the front wheels so that you could flat track it thru curves. What would keep them from boring it out to 3 liters?
@thomas.kovacik9 ай бұрын
So glad I went with a 23 FW
@benjamindiazmota75029 ай бұрын
It needs a turbo engine, Period 👌🏻
@dcam4569 ай бұрын
They had a turbo before and not enough people bought it so they got rid of it. With a hybrid coming I’d be surprised if they brought the turbo back.
@0HOON09 ай бұрын
Please no. Turbo engines do not have the reliability and durability of an N/A. Instead Subaru needs to push its engineers to match Toyota's A25A at 205-210hp. This would much improve the passing power.
@xxichikokoxx9 ай бұрын
@@0HOON0 they need a good hybrid system like toyota. they cant keep making NA engines with how emission standards are getting super strict and states like CA banning ICE engines in a few years.
@vjmtz9 ай бұрын
@@xxichikokoxx Well its expected that the new Hybrid will be taken from Toyota's directly, or at least it should be considering Toyota's investment in Subaru. Subaru's last hybrid car was terriable though.. so I hope its better. Personally I'm fairly anti-hybrid, but do see the appeal due to those emission standards which cribble the engines now with so little power. I'm not a fan of turbos (most mechanics are as well for the reliability issues they have)., but its so tempting considering how under powered this engine is. I'm now debating. Honda CR-V or this. -
@matthewjohnson12119 ай бұрын
@@0HOON0 Exactly …my wife’s BRZ has a 2.4 230hp -it’s not some futuristic thing “Oh someday when the technology gets there.”
@antibureaucrat9 ай бұрын
I know you're an off road fanboy but so few of us ever do that. Also the dirt roads you drove on to get to the snow and ice were no big deal based on my experience driving almost exclusively 2wd vehicles. I would not hesitate to take a minivan on those roads nor my Focus ST. Don't get me wrong, I like your reviews because you point out a lot of features on your tests 👍. But I think that awd is so oversold and decreases fuel economy (I live in the Northeast and would only consider a Subaru for it's overall value/usefulness; not for its awd - a friend of mine drives a local bus and has noted that during the first snows of the season most cars he sees off the road are Subaru's - awd doesn't change the physics of stopping and turning !!!
@BBlackmen8 ай бұрын
The more and more I see this 2025 Subaru Forester I am in love this is phenomenal I already have a Subaru and there's no way I'm leaving
@wordupp189 ай бұрын
if you push the little camera icon on the screen when you are reversing, it will switch through different camera modes, especially if you just want the backup camera without the split screen sensors next to it.
@drivingsports9 ай бұрын
Yes, we play with that more in our next video. (700 mile roadtrip)
@zero2sixty2449 ай бұрын
Front end looks like a 2022+ Equinox, 2024 VW Atlas, and Ford Explorer and rear end looks like a 2024 Nissan Armada
@TariqAltamimi-o4u9 ай бұрын
Lovely outdoorsy review as always ! 2 questions tho, 1. Does the blind spot alarm has an audible component or as silly as before with only flashing little light? 2. Does it have front parking sensors?
@KreeH20239 ай бұрын
Looks good! I hope they come out with a hybrid soon and a plug-in would be even better. It should be interesting if how they arrange the power train. If they want to keep their existing AWD system, the electric motor will have to drive the transmission, maybe similar to the Toyota Tundra setup. It will mean lower mpg, but better AWD.
@andrzejs65324 ай бұрын
I can't wait to see it live tomorrow! It is true that in Europe it has a 2.0 engine, not a 2.5 l... I can always import a 4.0 Toyota 4Runner or Tacoma. JUST NOT THIS NEW 4CYLI DR WITH TURBO!!!
@GameOnRammy9 ай бұрын
Is the HK sound system exactly the same as previous versions or is there an improvement?
@ericg90926 ай бұрын
What kind of tires do people put on the Forester or the Outback if they're wanting a little more capability and puncture resistance while still having decent ride quality?
@drivingsports6 ай бұрын
Falken Wildpeak Trails or AT4Ws
@david_atsoc9 ай бұрын
SUBARU has a special place in my heart!
@billderas34209 ай бұрын
Great job Ryan. Would have liked to see more about 0-60 times because we live at 5,100 feet. Have a 2016 turbo XT now that does fine at elevations up to 8,000 feet.
@leolelo82954 ай бұрын
Good test drives! Is it possible to equippy 2025 forester with Wilderness abilities ?
@ggrant9939 ай бұрын
Great in depth look as usual, thank you! You hit all my initial thoughts on the exterior: front has too much going on yet is too soft at the same time, I don't think the rear taillights are consistent with the rest of the design at all, and overall if you took the badges off I'd guess it was a Ford. Almost like they took the body of an Edge, shrunk it, then put the Kia Sportage taillights on it. I can't picture this thing as a wilderness. Lots of pros you point out are nice (fuel tank size!) however not even close for us to consider upgrading from our '17 XT. The design has been going downhill since and this one made it worse in my opinion, so much that I couldn't overlook it for the new features. If I were looking now, I'd personally hurry up an get a '24.
@matthewshultz87629 ай бұрын
12:50-13:15 are you saying that the 'interior camera' part of Eyesight is standard on all trims now? I was not a fan of that system when I found out my friend's '23 outback touring had it. If it's in all new Subarus now I am going to keep my '17 Forester until it dies. Not a fan of 360 cameras either, more tech to raise the cost of repair especially with minor accidents. It's a shame about the iPad style 'infotainment' trend, huge downgrade from physical buttons and knobs of the 4th gen. The 4th gen screen is terrible even by mid 2010s standards but at least the HVAC can be used with gloves. Subaru needs to take a look at what 4Runner is doing with their interior - physical controls for everything but the radio/navigation and system interface. In almost every other way the 5th and 6th gens are huge improvements over the 4th gen Forester but I just can't get over the glaring user interface issues I mentioned.
@drivingsports9 ай бұрын
In the earlier part I specify it’s only in Touring.
@matthewshultz87629 ай бұрын
@@drivingsports That's good then. I hope they don't lock too many of the features behind Touring trim. Pretty much just want the ventilated leather seats and sound system in a base model!
@chrisbullock64775 ай бұрын
I know these companies want to push the most expensive versions, but it would be nice to see base models tested so the majority could really see how it performs and what you're getting with a base model.