Should You Buy a 2025 Subaru Forester? Thorough Review By A Mechanic

[@dondonaldson1684]

Smaller screen, physical HVAC. Your comment is 💯 spot on.

[@ornative7514]

I agree.

[@oatbear8243]

This screen alone is why I’d never buy a Subaru.

[@NSO1505]

The only car reviewer that matters. Much better than redline and all other media.

[@mambi74]

"redline" - ewwww.. please, not even in the same universe! LOL

[@ItsAlive111]

@@mambi74 the redline guy got a 0-60 machine to expand his technical review section of the cars he reviews 😅

[@stewartcampbell4895]

Redline is a joke.

[@noeldelira9480]

I absolutely agree. He is very thorough in his review, not just externals, the icing, but the MEAT of the car.

[@mambi74]

@@ItsAlive111 LOL!

[@michaeltrinidad1217]

I give Subaru props for equipping the vehicle with a spare tire. I can't believe it has come to this these days that a spare tire is a surprise now.

[@geraldthompson4633]

@@michaeltrinidad1217 yup. under the bs of space and or weight savings….bollocks!

[@robellen1609]

I'm a loyal Toyota and Suburu owner. 100% agree, that screen is brutal. Smaller screen with hvac dials would be a significant improvement.

[@freeman48083]

The pin on the door is to transfer load during a side impact. Keeps the passengers safer.

[@toronado455]

why is it down low? i thought all doors had the pin up near the latch.

[@laurielavallee411]

Subaru Forester Wilderness owner here. Love the ‘22 version rather than the updated infotainment version. My opinion is the same as yours. Too obtrusive and challenging to navigate. Great review as always!

[@KrustyKrabPizza85]

The way this guy does reviews: It's like watching an awesome live encyclopedia.

[@jullyangreen7106]

😂😂😂😂

[@wheresthepictureidk2817]

The screen in a gimmick in an otherwise no gimmicks car. And as a Subaru owner I would definitely prefer buttons and knobs.

[@harolddaley]

AMD- 100% agree on the InfoTainment System. I prefer the knobs and buttons. I don't know of any iPhones that last for ten years, so I am hesitant to believe the long term reliability of this $creen/$ystem. Brought my wife to test drive a Forester, not expecting to buy one. They had this 2025 Sport model in the show room. After the test drive, salesman says he didn't have a Premium, but would make us a ridiculous offer on the Sport. Did not expect him to take off $4800. So we took it for $34,100. The ride is smooth on nice roads, handles great. Handles a little truck-like over the bumps. We loved our previous new Legacy, and love this car as well. With your channel as my resource, I just bought the 2004 Rav4 Hybrid XLE earlier this year. AMD- thank you to you and Mrs CCN. I enjoy all of your content, and your channel is invaluable. And Thank You for sharing your life story --God Bless you and your Family!

[@Lex-rt7vd]

You bought a 20 year old RAV4?

[@Mi-rk3wz]

I think the guide under the backdoor is a safety measure. It will prevent the door from moving too much in the accidents. Thanks for the awsome reviews.

[@stanleysourelis5104]

Yes, it’s to prevent intrusion from a side impact. I’m surprised he didn’t know that.

[@bwest-yq3uc]

is it going to make it harder to open the door in a side collision?

[@stanleysourelis5104]

@@bwest-yq3uc I don’t believe it will

[@Mi-rk3wz]

@@bwest-yq3uc I hope not. I wanna think that the Subaru engineers who have thought about a safety mechanism that adds to the door integrity in case of a crash, have also thought about its adverse effects and have minimised them.

[@user-uq7io2os3r]

Nope because this metal sill pin will break on stronger impact like front door side impact bolts,adding that pin on the bottom makes door more resistant to side impact collision deformation so its better chance so afterwards door frame will not deform and rescue team will be open door without cutting them out like in most cars side impact, ​@bwest-yq3uc

[@pattonmaclean4777]

One of my favorite youtube channels strikes again!

[@ZeGermanHam]

I am a Subaru owner and purchased a new 2023 Crosstrek at the end of that generation's production run after I saw that the 2024 model implemented the large touchscreen with no physical knobs. It was a *major* part of my purchase decision. Subaru needs to bring back physical buttons and knobs for fan speed, vent selection, recirculation, A/C, heated seats, etc.

[@bwest-yq3uc]

They make phones calling illegal because it make you take your off the road too much. Now, The auto makers are making you use their consoles that about 2 or 3 phone calls time wise. Congress has to do something about regulating these consoles and unsafe practices. TIME to start writing Congress about safety issues on these consoles. I have written mine on different makes and models. It is getting extreme on your privacy and personal information, which the auto makers are selling to all takers, even your insurance companies about your speeds and locations and times and mileages, etc. Gee.

[@freedomisnotnegotiable]

I just picked up a 2024 ascent. And I had also the concern with physical buttons but also have to say it’s not that bad. They have not completely abandoned physical buttons, you still have volume, tune knips and even the temperature ist a physical button for passenger and driver also defrosters. And most people have the AC in auto mode anyway. Yes two or three more buttons wouldn’t be to bad but it’s not that the car is ruined, it’s not that they went in full mode like other manufacturers do

[@TMS5100]

I hope more consumer reject this stupid fad of removing all buttons and slapping a huge screen on everything. Just because tesla does something doesn't mean it's a good idea.

[@garycorrick]

We own a 2017 Subaru Legacy. The infotainment screen is a nice size with real buttons and dials for the HVAC. It works so well. I agree that I don't like the change.

[@Outdoorsy368]

I almost bought a forester a few years ago but the salesman p****d me off so i left. Ended up buying a 4runner and wow am i happy about that. Thank you Phil!!!

[@danlloyd5104]

I have both. Both great vehicles. Tec in the 4runner is Stone Age, but I still love the runner. It's a Tank. 23 Forester Sport, great car, all the safety stuff. I love that one too, but if I had to choose, the Subie is gone.

[@Outdoorsy368]

@@danlloyd5104 yupper!

[@konbonwa]

I own a 2025 Subaru Forester base model with 2500 miles on the clock. The previous Forester model generation had an electromechanical thermal control valve (TCV) that was prone to failure. Thankfully Subaru gave up on the TCV and returned to a reliable mechanical thermostat in the 2025 model Forester. The 2025 FB25 engine has slightly less horsepower than the 2024 model with slightly more torque than the 2024 model. Personally, I will take this trade any day. The 2025 Forester chassis is said to be torsionally 10% stiffer than the 2024 model. I have the base model which has the smaller dual displays that do not have the large screen slow reaction time issues. I have no personal issues with the steering feel or centering at any speed even though I can sometimes feel a degree of electromechanical override from the steering rack at freeway speeds. Overall, the 2025 Forester is a no-nonsense car for no-nonsense people. The way that Subaru designed and built my car reminds me of the safety and functionality designed into those solid 1980s and 1990s Volvo station wagons and that's a good thing.

[@jesusramos-my2qr]

Hope everyones day goes well today

[@lilalagomasino3042]

Yes! I have been waiting for you to review this car. The notch in the door is to help with side impact. I do wish it had more horse power. I do wish it had dual exost. I could do with less tech. I love the simplicity of the car.

[@antoniolepore8155]

Agree about the display. I own 2 Subarus'. I much prefer the Horizontal Display (like in the RAV-4). First it should be elevated so you minimize looking down while driving (Safer). Second, below the Horizontal Display should be physical buttons which are easier to manipulate while driving (Safer). Thank you for your review.

[@user-uq7io2os3r]

Fully agree 👍It was a time when ac multiscreen was sitting on top of dash and headunit was smaller 7" touch unit which was as "lazy " as current version 😕

[@brianwhitney9181]

Yes, a car maker who gets it about having a spare tire. A tire repair kit is useless if the tire is shredded.

[@melissasmess2773]

TPMS basically eliminated over heated shredded tire problems. I prefer to plug tires if I don't have to remove the wheel. 😅

[@joeblack1052]

@@melissasmess2773sure buddy Run over a piece of steel on the road and your tire is toast especially if it goes thru the tire wall which a high probability with low profile tires Maybe those lights in the rain storm are the tow truck Bet that tow truck has a spare😅

[@mowcowbell]

@@joeblack1052 Guess I'm either lucky, or a good driver. Been 45 years since the last time I actually had a blow out on the road. I see no need to carry around a spare tire for the 99.999% chance of me making to my destination with no tire problems.

[@joeblack1052]

@@mowcowbell just lucky Couple years ago I had a big roofing screw in my tire When got it plugged, the guy at tire place showed me a bucket of things they had pulled out of tires Let’s say that large screw paled in comparison to that scrap metal

[@michaeltrinidad1217]

No spare equals stranded on the shoulder for hours. Not to mention being in danger of a collision the whole time. Spare tires are an essential piece of equipment that should never have been eliminated!!!!!

[@sorcererstone3303]

I hope someday, Car Care Nut can make an episode on why Subaru' s symmetrical AWD is so reputable & effective compared to most manufacturers. I know from previous video, he mentioned Subaru's vehicles have lower center of gravity because of the boxer engine. But there should be more to it.

[@chriswright9096]

I'm starting to realize that putting everything in the touchscreen is actually cheaper for the manufacturer than providing physical controls. I agree with you though. Physical controls are safer: much less time spent with eyes off the road.

[@melissasmess2773]

I replaced the broken GM radio in my Toyota with a large touchscreen radio, it's definitely more difficult to touch the correct radio preset and hunt around the presets. I like old radios better. Why did Toyota use a GM radio in my Matrix? GM is not good quality.

[@blissfuljoy6049]

I was just wondering that.

[@awepossum1059]

If something breaks you replace the entire thing instead of an individual part.

[@CH-sk2bl]

Agreed physical re definitely much better and easy to keep your eyes on the road!! Im sorry i dont care ifmits cheaper for them to profit more money...safety should be a big priority, especially when we are talking bout something as simple as adjusting my heat or ac!!

[@zbaker0617]

1:05 two horses have escaped 😂😂😂😂😂 that had me laughing way more than it should’ve.

[@dondonaldson1684]

Someone left the barn door open?

[@jeffer1101]

while the new version is down 2 HP, it is also up 2 TQ. in reality, it likely doesn't make a difference when driving it. i think the ratios in the CVT were also modified slightly, so the newer version may feel a bit peppier than the previous one.

[@zbaker0617]

@@jeffer1101 I just said it was funny

[@toronado455]

@@zbaker0617 yes, i thought that was funny too. but he did fail to mention the torque number was up.

[@richardhouvener6423]

@@zbaker0617 It wasn't.

[@zanesutherland406]

Dear Subaru, we want physical climate controls! And still have an integrated dash screen for Apple CarPlay etc. also more horse power in general would be nice. Great review, it’s nice to see quality. We have tons of Subarus here in MT and for good reason. I have an ‘07 Outback 2.5 manual. Love the car despite some mechanic issues, and find it to be a worthy platform to fix.

[@jacquesbourne9203]

If your name is Ester, this car is for you.

[@Itong172]

😂😂😂

[@emiliog.4432]

For Esther. 😮

[@JohnConrad]

💀

[@fayizd654]

😂

[@mardamek3]

@jacquesbourne9203 That’s pretty funny. Never thought of it like that 😊

[@vmpgsc]

2024 Crosstrek Limited owner... We HATE the HVAC controls and how slow the entire infotainment system is. Plus, for a big screen, they make the buttons so small they're hard to hit when the car is reacting to suspension movement.

[@ZeGermanHam]

I bought a '23 Crosstrek Limited while they were still on dealer lots after I saw the redesigned '24 model with touchscreen. Subaru definitely needs to go back to using physical buttons & knobs for all models.

[@Origamiiiiiiiiiiii]

Agree. Have a ct 24 sport love the car but the infotainment is the only bad part. Hard to hit any button while driving

[@pennmikael]

great insight. as a 2018 forester owner, i’m inclined to keep my car as long as possible since it has a basic infotainment screen, granted my vehicle is still reasonably safe.

[@Th3Think3r]

100% agree with the screen. I own a 2022 Forester and was happy they had yet to upgrade the Forester to the larger screen and still had physical dials/buttons. I look forward to your review of the Forester hybrid when it comes out in 2025.

[@tfbond8687]

I couldn't agree with you more on the screen We are on our second Forester, headed for #3. What really appealed to me for these vehicles was physical knobs for the radio and the heating and a/c system. Virtual buttons are a big annoyance when you try to adjust them when traveling down the road - they verge on being a safety issue - definitely does not align with Subaru's focus on safety.

[@itaithyking]

I agree. Physical dials are the best!

[@chih6654]

Two horses have escaped… 😂😂😂

[@awepossum1059]

Nice ford explorer

[@toyota420xp]

It looks so much better than the old one and I think it's a good value for money

[@ismaelcruz3315]

Yes, we need more knobs not big screens especially for senior citizens like me. I owned a 2007 Subaru Outback, and I loved the regular transmission with manual shift. Had it for ten years, but not every mechanic knows how to work on them.

[@high-techredneck2300]

I like that it's got more of a wagon silhouette like the old ones did. Actually looks like a modern version of the early 2000s outback. but also everyone knows for soobies the lisence plate mounts the the front row hook. Lol. Please bring back physical HVAC controls and stainless exhaust

[@DominadorJrAng]

Hi Amd, thank you for doing the review of the Frorester 2025. Apprieated it.😊

[@karendeangelis1358]

Just got my first Subaru. A 2024 Forester. So happy with the older model small screen and dials!

[@rmwright11221979]

I have a 2024 Subaru Outback and I love it. I took it on a 4600 mile road trip and I can say it is as close to being the perfect road trip vehicle as you're going to find. I have the Touring XT version with the turbo four cylinder engine and the nappa leather seats. There's a reason why Subaru is number one in customer retention. But like I said, no car is perfect. I owned a 2021 model. The infotainment screen was painfully slow. I traded that one in for a 2024 model after learning about the massive refresh the Outback had in 2023. The screen is a lot faster with the refresh but IMO still to slow to respond. And I feel the wireless phone charger is poorly placed, behind right behind the shifter. But those are my only complaints. The Outback is super comfortable, it has excellent visibility, I love the ground clearance it has and oil changes couldn't be easier to do. The oil filter is on top of the engine. Extremely easy to get to. I plan to keep this car for a very long time.

[@davehill9479]

We are the very happy owners of a 2025 Forester Limited, and agree with your assessment of the screeen, to a point. The HVAC controls are difficult to access when driving, but the rest of it is fine. Also agree with the ride quality and quietness - much improved over our previous 2021. Would buy this again in a heartbeat!

[@rayrushing]

I wish you reviewed the previous generation of the Forester, I love that generation so much better.

[@emersonkhosa4387]

Got this car and totally agree with the screen comments!! It’s the only downside about the car but not a total deal breaker. It was a great sales experience and the sales rep was saying that just be glad it’s not the old screen/system as that was terrible and it has been improving which is showing Subaru is listening to “us” lol

[@Enock-eh3uq]

Much much better review than simply comparing cupholders and exhaust tips by some channels Thank you AMD Regards to Hossain

[@jparker1823]

As an owner of this model and trim, you gave a spot on review. The 11.6" screen is the downside of the interior. I like the revised engine which produces less particular matter and brings the torque 700 rpm sooner. Running 0w16 feels weird, but it seems fine so far. Yes, I wish it had a 6 speed manual or turbo option, but I'm considered an enthusiast and not the average Subaru buyer.

[@robertcunningham1944]

Regarding the two missing horsepower, I saw on another KZbin channel that even though this model has two horsepower less, the torque peaks out at a lower RPM, so it would actually result in better performance. Whether that statement is true or not, I have no idea. Excellent review, by the way! Thank you. I subscribed.

[@emiliog.4432]

Subarus need diligent maintenance. I own a 15 Forester with no issues. A limited with basic functionality. I stay on top of all maintenance items. Early. They’re fairly easy to work on. I replace the cvtf every 30k miles. Like Toyota, Subarus need TLC.

[@melissasmess2773]

My older Outback is a better vehicle, hydraulic transmission, no oil leaking engine and failed thermostat.

[@jdmguy44]

Always been a fan of Subaru. Had an Impreza sedan many years ago. Was a great car, fun to drive and completely reliable. I'm sorry they no longer offer their cars with manual transmissions though - which is what mine had.

[@jledford2]

Ester, this ones for you!

[@gobear83]

so glad I purchased my 2024 Forester Wilderness….with the old style infotainment…love it. Fuel filler door is large , ready for the plug in for 2026

[@coleschettle6494]

22 wrx honestly the screen really does it for me just plug in go to car play and don’t mess with it at all after that

[@wespotter6985]

You missed the Eyesight safety system, a class leading inovation. It elevates the product, above the competion. Also, engine torque is up, giving better initial acceleration.

[@Hallowsaw]

I own 2 subarus but... it really is not class leading. There is a reason subarus have dropped off of iihs top safety lists

[@spambobspampants]

I don't want it

[@CrazyWeeMonkey]

Most cars in this segment have some sort of lane-centering + ACC system now.

[@user-uq7io2os3r]

Eyesight is not totally bad system but it fails in h,fog,rain, snow Eyesight cpu get lost the same like normal Eyesight so adding rear tech will be great improvement but it will never going to happen as then subaru may not claim so they are best in seafty tech on the market..

[@user-ho3ct8fy4q]

i noticed the seats for my big back

[@brucefogel1360]

That back door bracket is for safety on a side inpack. It will stop the door from crushing you

[@minnybiker4505]

They tweaked the motor to increase torque by 2 ftlbs, and in that change it reduced horsepower by 2. That's why.

[@toronado455]

yes

[@alexmandilaras5535]

2016 Forester owner here. I agree with you about the screen. I really don't care for it. I like subarus for the full time awd and ground clearance, and foresters in particular for visibility. This will probably be my next car, but I don't care for that stupid infotainment system.

[@alexanderkajdi8117]

I Totally agree with you that the front fender and black cladding vent is totally not necessary! I would remove the stamped Forester name in the rear hatch. I like chrome trim and polished Aluminum Wheels.

[@minnybiker4505]

I agree the screen is slow for about the first minute. But it works great after that. I really like it in my car.

[@tuan056585]

Yes, yes, I'm waiting for this video and finally got it. Thank you very much sir. Your channel is the BEST 👌

[@mattmcquarrie4279]

I bought this car 3 weeks ago. I do prefer smaller screen with HVAC dials. But that was something I was willing to sacrifice compared to the competitors I was looking at.

[@joeschlepp]

great tech review as always.👍

[@landscapingspecialist]

My mother just got a brand new crosstrek. She used to have a an older ‘15 crosstrek. And I must say, the giant screen is something we both felt is unneeded and cumbersome to navigate. Especially w the HVAC controls. It actually makes it ALOT harder to operate, especially while driving. When your finger is bouncing around, it is more difficult to press the button you want. You have to take your eyes off the road for much longer. And even then I found it harder to execute an accurate button push. We both did not care for it. Also, the iSight windshield camera has grown in size. Substantially blocking the visibility in the upper windshield behind the rearview. This is also something we found distracting and possibly a hindrance when operating the vehicle in a safe manner. All in all she loves the car, but there are certain things that she dislikes a great deal.

[@raptor15tor]

Agree 100% about the infotainment unit. Prefer HVAC to have buttons instead of touchscreen. I believe the guide under the doors are for safety and noise reduction. We have the similar setup on our 2018 outback as well

[@THX5000]

Please do a review of the new Nissan Frontier 4x4. Thanks!

[@mattheviewer]

Helpful review, for sure. FYI Upper trim Foresters do have switches for lowering the rear seats from the hatch area.

[@atticstattic]

The thought of off roading with a CVT gives me the willies...

[@slava_trushkin]

Brilliant review. Really looking forward to seeing new Forester when it finally comes to EU. In Europe we had FB20 engine for last 2 generations. That's even less horse power than FB25 has in US. I own a 2018 Forester SJ with FB20 engine. Absolutely no issues. Perfect amount of power. What we don't have though is spare tire in SK generation and won't have one in SL gen. Instead, there is a battery for a useless mild hybrid system. Though since I do have a SJ gen Forester, not a mild hybrid, I do have a spare. In one year of ownership I had 2 punctures, which is exactly the same as number of punctures I had in last 20 years before I started going to remove places (accessing fishing/skiing places that without Forester I wouldn't dare to go to). Didn't use my spare because I have a compressor (got it from junk yard from a GM vehicle), which was enough to drive to a tire repair shop. If punctures were bigger than they actually were, I'd have to use a spare because there is no way to get service in remote places, but newer models don't come with one.

[@m3rdpwr]

They also for 2025 got rid of I think it's called the ECV, which is a coolant valve electronic component that was failing and they had to extend the warranty on. Now they went back to a standard system. That should help durability. I should mention that they didn't use that ECV on the turbo versions of Subaru. Finally, I agree with the infotainment system that it's a bit on the laggy side and a little troublesome. Coming from a 2014 ram 1500, it has a lot of separate buttons plus a large screen. I did get a TSB update for the infotainment system, and it has improved functionality. Btw, I own a 2023 outback touring XT as well. Nice vehicle.

[@pablomarquez4431]

I agree on the hvac knows. They should of left it manual. Also with the toyota D4S design implementation on the engine. That would of been a sweet marriage gift for the merge.

[@KingKong-]

Exact review.......Giant screen with AC digital controls is a big no - no!!!! A defective screen will disable everything & cost $$$$$ Everything else is good👍👍👍

[@madlucio70]

I totally agree. I am a much bigger fan of the Crosstrek 8" + small dash infotainment setup from the 2023 Crosstreks. They still had all of the major systems controlled through knobs and buttons. My current vehicle is a 2024 Solterra and while I like the old-school setups a lot more than today's tablet-driven UI. I have to admit the new Toyota infotainment setup is quite slick and easy to use. I can also do almost anything that I need to do with manual controls on the squircle and the rest with voice, so I do not really need to mess with the infotainment system while driving.

[@Cyberdeamon]

I remember when the Forester was based on the Impreza - and you could get it with STi goodies, man it got huge like the Rav4 did lmao.

[@Cyberdeamon]

Also Subaru is basically lego's and I bet you could grab a wrecked STi easily swap everything over like MCM did with a Levorg and an older model of STi

[@PD55_]

Bring back the turbo with the hood scoop! That was zippy and you could haul stuff, very fun.

[@ashnader8627]

I agree on the screen. I love my 2022 WRX but the screen is the only part I hate. This should have been an enthusiast’s car designed by engineers not marketing and accounting people. This was my second and last Subaru I will ever buy.

[@stevenweiss2148]

Put 4 dedicated winter tires in this and your all set

[@drw1926]

AMD, I really appreciate you reviewing several Subaru models recently, including the Outback and the Ascent. Subaru is one of the few alternatives I would consider (along with Mazda) to Lexus or Toyota.

[@attackofthetwin]

I own a 2017 Subaru Impreza. It has a smaller screen with physical HVAC controls underneath it. Honestly a perfectly usable system. I have no idea why they changed it.

[@matteoperron5436]

that little thing at the bottom of the rear doors i think is for crash safety, it keep the door more in place in side impacts

[@melissasmess2773]

Subaru, I had had four of your vehicles but don't want a touch screen, more difficult to use, more expensive to fix.

[@geraldthompson4633]

The screen fits just fine…some of us are getting older and not trying to squint at a tiny screen…

[@juanseaforth5111]

I currently drive a 2019 forester premium and I absolutely love it. I plan to drive it until it says “ NO MAS “

[@minnybiker4505]

I think the screen is easier to engineer. You can change everything with a little programming. Physical buttons and their connections cannot be changed without designing new parts. Also, you can control more features with the app when auto starting the car if it's all software.

[@stevenweiss2148]

Very helpful and informative..one of the best

[@joelpfeil7131]

Thank you so much for that review! I own one, and value your opinion greatly. Super review - thanks again.

[@jullyangreen7106]

I have a 24 and love my dials and I’m happy to have my ac system not apart of the screen but this is nice

[@hctim96]

To me the front end looks like a Ford F-150 I had a 2005 forester. The giant sunroof was always jamming. Subaru replaced the whole thing TWICE. I finally went to a sunroof specialist and he said the rails were all messed up. I closed the sunroof and never opened it again. Sold it two years later. It had problems I did not want to deal with. Went back to HOnda and never looked back.

[@lawrencefeldman462]

Nice to have a roof rack already fir bikes ir kayak from factory. No need for sunroof.

[@jensha8898]

The Screen Problem you talk about is new…the old Forester was exactly like you said..two screens with physical Buttons. We dont have the new 2025 Forester in Germany yet. We still have the 2024 Forester with the FB20 E-Boxer a 150hp Boxer with 17 HP Hybrid E Power. We also like the old Interieur instead of the new. The Old System with the 2 Screens and Physical Buttons were also better than now. Weve been to US this Summer an checked the new 2025… not much changes… but the new screen is just too low the older is higher wich makes it easier to look at while driving

[@belowme4927]

THE 2024- INFOTAINMENT/HVAC CONTROLS ARE BETTER. IF YOU WANT THAT, YOU CAN STILL GET THE OLD STYLE IN WILDERNESS EDITION ONLY

[@Xmvw2X]

I REALLY want to see the 2.4L from the BRZ in these cars. 228HP vs 180HP, and you're not even getting more torque from this 2.5L. The 2.5L is just a cheaper. An extra 48HP would be really beneficial on this heavy body. What's equally bad is the OG EJ251 2.5L from the late 90s and early 2000s there's been very minimal gain from those early years, only 15HP increase in 25 years. The new 2.4L in the BRZ is quite nice, and it's a shame it's not used in more models. It'd make these cars a lot more peppy. This is especially true with the bigger Legacy/Outback chassis which has felt quite under powered for 20+ years when using the base engine.

[@shawtmanXR]

13:55 They put a steel bar straight through the rear door, incase of a side impact accident. Give your rear seat passenger s a little more safety. I have a similar steel bar in my 2015 Impreza hatch. Greetings from Jamaica.

[@user-uq7io2os3r]

I far prefer manual,button like AC and dual screen from older gen of forester 👍

[@Draphilius]

I’ve driven Subarus for a long while and their decision to incorporate that giant laggy screen in lieu of numerous buttons was a major turn off to the point that I made the switch to a Honda CRV. Now that’s a nice controls design with all the physical knobs and buttons! (Also wanted a hybrid as well)

[@samvan7787]

Did subaru fix the TCV (thermal control valve) issue associated with the 2019 - 2024? Agreed with you that Subaru should have just kept the same infotainment screen as those in the 2019-2024 model year. The bigger infotainment screen results in taking longer to get things done. I like the two separate split screens which keeps the different info in their respect areas

[@sunlover5150]

Subaru removed the TCV from the 2025 Forester. Went back to an old fashioned thermostat.

[@prdesignworx]

Would love to hear your opinion/review of the Ineos Grenadier.

[@alexmandilaras5535]

You mentioned the loss of 2 horsepower, but neglected to mention the pick up of 2 ft pounds of torque, so maybe that makes it a bit more peppy at the start. I'm no mechanic, so I don't know if it makes any difference really.

[@louislopez55]

And I think the engine makes more torque at a lower RPM, a nice tradeoff to more horsepower at peak rpm I think. They do this with motorcycles all the time to make it more responsive at normal speeds.

[@alexmandilaras5535]

Good point. Now I want one even more! ​@louislopez55

[@aaronbb1749]

Can you please do the wrx

[@FreddyB865]

And address the long term reliability of the boxer engine!

[@trdpro2grfks]

Thanks AMD! Considering on of these for a daily driver after selling my 2023 Tacoma which was awful !!!!

[@jeromebecigneul2911]

I would have to agree with you on the infotain screen. If I was a manufacturer there would only be a small navigation screen. with all the rest operated by knobs and sliders. Wish I could afford a new one but Soc. Sec. ain't that good.

[@landscapingspecialist]

There are some updates I must say are for the better. The tilting and telescoping wheel is nice. And from the ‘15 crosstrek, the ‘25 crosstrek feels much heavier. Seems to have a little less pep in its step. But still plenty of lower imo. Just not as much as in the 2015

[@e5man4her]

Great review, just one thought. You comment the engine has a thermostat?....doesn't it have the problematic thermo control valve?

[@danielschnorrvonsonnienfel9057]

Our 2016 outback dropped a valve @ 73,000 miles, with no real help or technical explanation of cause to want to even consider another Subaru . Hope this helps others

[@JP-cd8zt]

Good review, As a owner of a 2025 Forester , I agree with most things, I think you are a little hard on the engine, First it is very simple, no turbo, no egr, no garbage. It's very simple to service everything is up front. The Horsepower dropped 2 but the torque went up. Simple thermostat, no electric water control.The CVT works flawless smooth and does it thing. The door pin, is for crash safety. The Infotainment I agree could have been faster, But it is bright clear and easy to navigate, Large fonts, large icons works well with phones. It seems all infotainment systems across brands are weak and underpowered. Best of all Subaru has the best finance rates around.

[@OracleLearningchannel]

Subaru is the one with supper high finance rates in Canada!

[@woodjunkjrjr2689]

@@OracleLearningchannelMove to the States, friend.

[@JP-cd8zt]

@@OracleLearningchannel 4.9% in US of Forester, 2.9% on Outbacks