2025 Toyota 4runner. Initial thoughts, it looks awesome. Powertrain, we'll see...

[@TheCarGuyOnline]

Correction ** The wheelbase of the new model has grown by 2.4-inches and overall length has grown by 4.7-inches compared to the old model. The longer overhangs mean the approach and departure angles are slightly degraded for the new 4Runner at 32 and 24 degrees respectively compared to 33 and 26 degrees for the four-wheel-drive fifth-gen.

[@Bobby_86415]

So as a mechanic Ill try to explain this the best I can, I see this as a 10-12 year possibly 150,000-200,000 mile SUV after that turbo will fail that's about a $5000 + expense if equipped with hybrid battery swap looking around $5,500-6,000 expense not to mention the other components on the hybrid system, if injectors fail sense its dual port and direct about least $1500 expense, I could could go on and on. so Its more complexity to make the engine work that adds up to keep it on the road equals to more money out of pocket. Yes Toyota is the better of the OEMS to drive however the reliability just started mean it took a long time to perfect the tech in cars and light suv commuter cars not mid to full size trucks so expect a lot of growing pains to come. I do agree there are 2 camps short term and long term but long term meaning is getting shorter the 5th gen will last 15+years because of the less complicated systems and more forgivable with maintenance, with turbos you really need to be on top of maintenance to pro long the life of the engine.

[@deanrotering879]

Are you a Toyota mechanic cause these turbos have been around forever and they last

[@oliverb5798]

I guess I’ll keep my 2007 v8 with 390k miles for now. I was excited for the release but you’re right. I don’t see a 4 cylinder lasting more than 150k miles. Mine is still running smooth like butter.

[@Bobby_86415]

@@deanrotering879 I am! Master diagnostic technician

[@billricheter5678]

Exactly

[@billricheter5678]

@@deanrotering879which turbos are those in?

[@LennartOsio]

Dude - legit review,specially about the new engines.

[@mr.knowitall6902]

Don’t like it one bit hate the new design queue for Toyota

[@TheCarGuyOnline]

For whatever reason I don't like the new Tacoma or Tundra with this design...but I like it on the SUVs, 4runner and Sequoia. It's a very weird thing.

[@joegrahe3958]

My 2015 LTD coming up on 200k miles. After seeing this, there's no reason to not go to 300k. It's nice, but not as nice as no car payments. And I hope the engine performs better than it looks. What a mess.

[@TheCarGuyOnline]

You won't regret keeping yours, I too love no car payments. I have a feeling the "old" body style is going to sell out pretty quick. There will be a large number of people that buy up the new ones then dump them in 3 years, and a large number of people that just want good old reliable. The one you have is probably the most reliable engine Toyota has ever made...other than the old 22r 4cyl from ages ago.

[@mr.knowitall6902]

I remember all the crap we built back in the 80s and early 90s. This is just another phase with all these four banger turbos.

[@RckyIRL]

Heartbreaking they chose to retire the reliability of the 6 cil.

[@TheCarGuyOnline]

Yeah, and it'll be a while before we know if the new powertrain is reliable. Time will tell :)

[@Nick-mb7ym]

Good review but I prefer the gen 5 - SR5 premium. That new gen 6 has too many curves on the side

[@TheCarGuyOnline]

Yeah I really like both. I have been eyeing the Gen5 for a while waiting for prices to come back to earth. Maybe this new release will do the trick for me :).

[@mack86523]

Only challenge for me (current 5th gen owner) is that the 5th gen does really bad in crash tests. Look into it.

[@olgamakarova5520]

❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 New version is AWESOME Delighted I am AWE STRUCK 😍 Can not wait for arrival to dealership 🎉🎉🎉

[@garyrosine3783]

It's a pretty good looking rig!

[@bpegadgets]

Do you think the new 4Runner will have the same engine issues as the Tundra?

[@NorthweSteelheadJunkies]

Rear Locker and scandalized disconnect is avalible in TRD Off and TRD PRO Trim.

[@kushing8]

We have at 2015 Lexus NX with a turbo 4 cylinder at a 120,000km it doesn’t burn a drop of oil in between service(every 6 months)

[@TheCarGuyOnline]

That's great. Hopefully that continues for you!

[@DennisKrok-s6p]

If you squint, it looks a tad like the Explorer....I may be biased as the owner of a 25 TRD Pro.

[@greensandbeansgaming1358]

Maybe it looks better in person but from pictures doesn't look that great. Ya I thought the same thing about the back side window cracking, what are they thinking, right at the spot you'll be pushing stuff up there. Snorkel is dumb. The only people that buy 40k, 50, and up vehicles are either the rich or people that can't manage their money.

[@davidheaton6206]

Anyone bothered by door handles that are off?

[@cnettrouer]

Thank you for pointing it out. Now I can not overlook the uneven handles.

[@alale923]

Its absolutely horrible.

[@calokraine5901]

Looks more muscular 😅

[@daphoneguy934]

looks awful

[@555atU]

I'm over the tablet screen on dashes. I like most of what Toyota did, but not a fan of the wheel wells and the indention on the doors. But they didn't blow it.

[@TheCarGuyOnline]

Yeah I was happy to see they didn't completely go nuts with the new design. I think it's going to sell like crazy...

[@555atU]

@@TheCarGuyOnline all in all it looks good...like how aggressive it looks.

[@Nick-mb7ym]

Awesome! Smart to sell it for the price you bought it - not sure if the 6gen will have the same value long term.

[@oliverb5798]

4Runners used to have a personality.

[@thedumbguncollector5546]

The thing really really looks like a Chevrolet

[@Michael-ur5qb]

This was about what I expected. With the change of the powertrain and drivetrain I didn’t think they would go really bold with the looks. Still not sure how this compares with the LC and how its different but I prefer the LC. I can see people debadging these quickly. I still don’t like modern Toyota interiors. The dash is way too high and the windshield to small. Aesthetically pleasing but not functional

[@foskco87]

I like the overall styling but I freakin hate those massive black fender flares. Makes them look so cheesy. I am glad they didnt go with the blacked out A-pillar and roof. I am a bit crushed that they made the 4runner even bigger... it was already bordering on too big. First thing I would do if I got one would be to take the fender flares off and paint them the same colour as the body.

[@corradettimotorsports360]

Can't say I am impressed, it looks more porky than athletic, the fact the dash board is dug out of the parts bin really shows the lack of investment in differentiating the 2, unlike the last 2 Gens of Tacoma and 4 Runner. Hard Pass for me.

[@sammyjammy6647]

Can you imagine holding onto one vehicle for 20 to 30 years? 😂 I mean seriously how long do people think they’re gonna live?

[@TheCarGuyOnline]

I am currently driving a vehicle that is 16 years old, it actually runs perfectly fine, no issues whatsoever (2008 Toyota Sequoia). I have family members driving 90s trucks on the ranch. So I can imagine :).

[@Michael-ur5qb]

@@TheCarGuyOnlineBut don’t you think you are an outlier? The average life of a car on the island 10 years I thought? I think we’d be way better off if people kept their car for 20-30 years but that’s not the norm.

[@littlestinker9716]

I've owned two of my three current vehicles for just over 20 years, including my daily driver. Has saved me well over $100K.

[@MrCxiong116]

I’ll drive the same car till I die if the car doesn’t die first. lol

[@johnturley5595]

I have a 3rd generation 3.4 manual from 1999 still runs great with 210k , but yes nobody lives for ever ..........

[@jimhanle2971]

I think you got the spec backwards. Wheel base grew by 2.4 inches and length by 4.7 inches . Or something very close .

[@TheCarGuyOnline]

bah! you are correct, my dyslexia knows no bounds. I'll pin a comment correcting :).

[@healer81]

It looks great and well proportioned.

[@Navigation24-7]

Looks great except the backend taillights are too old looking…

[@bizzfo]

Backend looks stupid, it’s sticking up in the air

[@oneplus2ins]

Reminds me of the Nissan Xterra. I'm sure it'll grow on people after a while.

[@bizzfo]

@@oneplus2ins I had an Xterra. It didn’t have rear end lines that made it look like it was at a 45 degree angle. I’m sure the rear end is skinny due to departure angle concerns but still.

[@FreedomAtRisk]

4Runner is for recreation. Land Cruiser is for off road daily driving.

[@atomicorang]

Looks like Toyota made a truck that will be unloved compared to past generations.. it is obvious the speaker is unliking it as a whole.

[@billricheter5678]

Looks like a stretched Nissan xTerra.

[@dannypinyan3949]

The engines are Yamaha.

[@TheCarGuyOnline]

Not entirely true. While Yamaha has helped design some, all Toyota engines are not made by Yamaha. I believe it was certain/specific engines and some head designs.

[@morpheus1818]

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[@TheCarGuyOnline]

I would agree with some of those videos but not all. There are turbo diesel trucks that have insane mileage on them and are reliable. It depends heavily on engineering and testing though, we'll see if Toyota did their homework. Regardless I agree to a certain extent, until these prove to be like the old Toyota tech, I wouldn't trust them just yet, I'd just trust them more than any other brand to do it right :).

[@sammyjammy6647]

You said you like it, but you wouldn’t buy it in the video

[@TheCarGuyOnline]

Yeah maybe I should have been more specific. I really like the looks of it, the lines/interior/tech etc., but I personally fall more in the camp of someone that owns cars that have 100-250k miles on them, so for me I don't think I'd trust it to be a long term vehicle. If all of the sudden get a wild hair and buy a new car, or prices come down, I might buy one but I'd get rid of it at or before 100k. The old 5th gen 4.0L Runner was and is still bulletproof. I personally might be looking in to a used 5th gen. Currently I have a 2008 Sequoia with 230k miles, but it still runs like a top so hard to justify doing anything yet :).

[@realname2158]

The only thing I don't like is that giant screen right there in the middle of the dash. I know most people love that tech stuff but for me it's just a distraction. Depending on the prices they want I may upgrade in the future IF they offer a decent service plan with them. I'm guessing just one of those headlight assemblies alone will cost $800+ or more to replace, some brands the headlights cost over $1000 each. Anyway, great video, very informative and the trail version to me seems like the best option but if it's at the $70k mark that will be a definite no sale with me.

[@TheCarGuyOnline]

Yeah here I am driving 16 year old vehicles with $9 halogen bulbs that work fine...so I completely get where you are coming from. At some point I'm going to have to upgrade but...I just keep holding out. I thought I would hate giant screens in the middle until I test drove different cars with them, mainly the tesla. I was surprised how nice it was, didn't distract too much and it's very nice with say, google maps nav + music on screen when you want them both at the same time...but yeah, repairs on any of these vehicles are going to cost a lot, and insurance is going to continue to skyrocket due to all the features/tech/MSRP issues.

[@newagecuck]

“More Reliable” nothing will be as reliable as the 4 liter.

[@littlestinker9716]

Better than I expected. I'll consider buying the SR5 in a year or two if/when the frenzy dies down.

[@Nick-mb7ym]

Try the SR5 Premium gen 5 you will be happy - moonroof, third row , heated seat and wheel ; option 4 wheel drive.❤

[@littlestinker9716]

@@Nick-mb7ym I owned a TRD Premium 5th gen for six years. I want something less primitive. On the bright side, I sold it for what I paid new.

[@TheCarGuyOnline]

@Nick-mb7ym hehe...that's crazy.