2025 ULTIMATE LEC TIERLIST (Winter Split)

[@IkEisawesome7]

All that for Los Ratones to sweep

[@jimmyverse6783]

LR for worlds 2025 frfr

[@cal7214]

funny joke

[@IkEisawesome7]

@@cal7214 ty

[@YoComoPan]

6th- 7th

[@NicoTown]

Dom i have been perma banned from you Twitch for almost 4 years now because i tried to tell you that Google spoiled the result of a game before it had finished.

[@AsamatBagatov135]

He was ruthless back in the day 😂😂

[@yihadistxdl951]

do unban request?

[@NicoTown]

@@AsamatBagatov135 I have tried twice now to get an appeal but they say i messed with his livelyhood so i stay banned.

[@IvanRampi]

That's what you get for trying to help, bucko

[@internetjunkie1075]

looool

[@G2LoL]

5 minutes in stop the count rest doesn't matter, solid tierlist gramps

[@xCLiCH3E]

dislike this corporate meme milking pls :-)

[@hehexd5317]

@@xCLiCH3E it's not particularly corporate though...

[@baileyduvall01]

I like the corporate messages - shows they actually are a part of our community even if we have to remember it’s a corporation at the end of the day

[@M.B.Win.1886]

🌞💞👊❤️LEC🎀2025💙👊💞 💞TIER👊LIST😍G2phoria😍 🌞💞Hyyyppppeeee🎈👍

[@G2LoL]

@@xCLiCH3E aight disliked

[@barnabemassol9436]

When you say you've heard Kamiloo's name for a long time, maye you're confusing him with Kamilius, who's a veteran support that's been playing in top ERL for years

[@amits1846]

g2 are lucky the rats aren't in the lec yet

[@Ivan-cr1wd]

Dont think so, i mean ur right as long as caedrel is the supp and not rekkles. Caedrel is the EU last hope, hes more potencial than caliste or caps.

[@amits1846]

@Ivan-cr1wd CINEMA

[@narvuntien]

I think that the team managers got a better idea of what will work well together rather than just grabbing the best talent they could here. Hopefully an improvement over last year but... Taragamus is still there...

[@Apostroph]

Caliste has already played with Targamas bro. And they won LFL and EUM together But maybe u didn't watch it Also they understand each other and click super well together So wait and see 😉

[@scottmoore7539]

I wonder how many of these rosters will stay the same throughout the year. I suspect we could see a random Jankos or another veteran player return.

[@BExAxKING]

Jankos not playing because he wanted a bag or a team that would guarantee him a split win after suffering on heretics. I’m sure by summer a bottom feeder team will throw him a bag to try to save them

[@jacobmathewkeluthara2867]

jankos rumored to be playing on the team dom is going to own in an erl

[@eidamgouda0609]

Actually agreed 100% on Dom’s takes, cool. Especially about being G2, Fnc and Koi top3, Heretics in bottom and other teams in between

[@RelaxAndMeditateChannel]

I really think people are sleeping on Giants. it does all depend on jackies pulling out some good plays and not inting as much but I think its going to happen.

[@DEVILONBOTHSHOULDERS]

jackies is gonna take the leap

[@eidamgouda0609]

No one is sleeping on them, they have potencial to be top 4, but dont see them beating G2/Fnc in bo series tho. So decent team on paper I would say

[@shaise]

bottom 3 teams Jackies is a low confidence player so is Noah, Jun overrated . Closer is aight but then u have a nobody toplaner

[@RelaxAndMeditateChannel]

@@eidamgouda0609 I don't see anyone beating the top two but but they have a chance at getting third and for a team like Giants, that is very good.

[@eidamgouda0609]

@@shaise wtf, where did you get that Jackies is low confidence? I know him a bit more than some others, since he’s Czech too and he is confident enough, he was able to pull out his pocket picks and his team trusted him, but I agree about Noah tho. Only real issue with Jackies is his experience, Noah has obvious issues and Jun, Closer good and don’t know shit about the top laner, but he should be allegedly at least decent

[@milkman2266]

Has Upset ever played with Mikyx? Cause I feel like that’s going to be an insane duo and it’s crazy it took this long to put them on the same roster.

[@36Watcher36]

There was a time were upset was trying out for g2 and in this time upset and miky played a lot of duoq together. But never on a team afaik

[@wenhaofan8015]

lpl teams are posting tons of 'farewell' and 'thank you' these days, i bet it will shift to "welcome" pretty soon

[@TheBestSnail7668]

obviously the will sign players if they don’t sign and post welcomes they are just gonna leave the league like RA

[@adamdecoder1]

Why are the teams blurred in the thumbnail like we can’t tell what they are lol

[@jacktaylor4241]

just for a moment, think critically about maybe why that is. Maybe consider the whole point of a thumbnail.

[@Luca_Bacchio]

Overall I think that LEC floor is way higher than last split and maybe can elevate the ceiling of the top3 going into international events

[@zoid_on_youtube]

yeah other than Heretics games, it feels like we might actually see some decent and competitive games coming out of teams outside the top 3

[@decotYT]

Thumbnail features tiers SBF? SBF must be code for Sam Bankman-Fried. Sam Bankman-Fried was the bronze tier LoL player. Is this an insinuation that LEC is now bronze tier in the global meta? Sam Bankman-Fried was the head of crypto exchange FTX. Is this a hint that there's a crypto sponsorship down the road? FTX sponsored TSM, which is now retired from LoL. Since a haggard Caps was also featured in the thumbnail, is this an insider hint that Caps is pondering retirement if things don't go well this year? lol...

[@maxschii2791]

Botlane looks really stacked for next year. Its so stacked that carzzy hyli might only be top 5. And then there are still once below them with a lot of potential like KOI and KCorp

[@OliverFriberg]

Are they called KOI this season or are they Mad Lions KOI?

[@shlokechakraborty9873]

KOI afaik

[@jorgelenny47]

Presumably Koi but not confirmed yet

[@kaaik1831]

Movistar KOI

[@mindful_ramen]

1:30 what video does DOM mean?

[@bigguy423]

Did he ever end up winking for the homies?

[@tomemrit6958]

Koi is not 100% top 3. I think they can strggle.

[@tiagocoelho7642]

Very exciting rosters this year, let's see

[@miguelhernando4511]

rogue last one heretics avobe sk and vitality and g2 should share tier with fnatic and koi

[@oilslicknl]

My brain agrees with dom but my heart is hoping caliste lives up to the hype and can provide challenge for g2.

[@mykko_0856]

the way you explained larssen is the same way you can explain chovy

[@Hubin12]

I would give up my second child to see dom jungle on stream man

[@jiloujensen2498]

I mean Mikyx played with Perkz then Rekkles then Hans then Upset, this guy played with all of the best ADCs ever in EU except Forgiven and Carzzy. None of the other ADCs ever in Europe matter

[@aR0ttenBANANA]

What happened to Perkz and Nesquick?

[@blamethesillynotthegoose8120]

im proud of myself for dom having the same take on rge as me

[@blamethesillynotthegoose8120]

and kc

[@THEkullerpuller]

If when you guys make your team, Jankos and Bo both still aren't in the league will you PLEASE give us Bo adc with Jankos jungle?

[@blamethesillynotthegoose8120]

im actually so hyped

[@victordeblascanela7806]

I dont understand the rogue hype but its nice otherwise

[@saxo218]

Is Dom gonna watch the lec or still no?

[@richardleenknegt4749]

Is Nisqy not playing next year?

[@lawrencewargrave9148]

Very hard to predict the outcomes of LEC some players have to be washed for everything to not just be average

[@aminefera5880]

Lmao how is kc vs vit close

[@nologooby9858]

WHERE LOS RATONES AT THO?

[@damionallen938]

Huh wait did mad lions disband did I miss something did I forget?

[@WistiPurpleday]

They were mad lions koi last year, there are rumors they have sold the rights to the academy team, so they might be gone and it might be moviestar koi this year

[@Natrium9775]

marlang still out here stealing paychecks i see

[@williambailey9343]

Mickyx isn’t better than Jun imo

[@sentz.]

Rogue is so low for picking up Adam xDDDD

[@dudem1310]

Nis-quick no team big sad. Humanoid still having a team bigger sad

[@Dani-of2zu]

Doesn't look like shit 🔥

[@Queen_inthe_Gulag]

Bro why is Hylissang even on a team? He used to be good , last year he and zoelys were the worst supports all year in LEC. Like what xd

[@yorimoigig]

I thought this was a g2 video based on the thumbnail lol

[@nikolakrastev8880]

I mean he is very very biased towards them usually so I can't blame you

[@j4vii_c]

⁠@@nikolakrastev8880its not bias if they win lec everytime

[@nikolakrastev8880]

@j4vii_c he is biased towards them in general. In internationals as well when they don't win and generally place poorly

[@Gurpreet-sv5zg]

@@j4vii_c Nah he glazes G2 despite looking hot garbage. He's always been buddy buddy with G2 players and coaches.

[@Mambojambobombastic]

@@Gurpreet-sv5zg I think it's fine to glaze the only western team with any hope of success internationally.

[@monkoe6715]

MAD gonna be first

[@till6677]

FNC Fans Time i hope

[@fathertime7864]

the worst thing is Yike and Targamas will most likely have very high anti-synergy but Canna is gonna get all the blame from their fans. lol

[@WarbosssLoL]

We already know the scrims going well dont worry about KC

[@termidi9232]

We can't know until it happens. Canna isn't as much blamed as you guys says. Targamas took most of KC "hate" but we still believe in him with Caliste. Also in the 3rd split Targa wasn't bad and in KC videos he talked about it and it clearly isn't hasardous, he works hard to improve and be a good teammate for his team, with Caliste he will have a bit of confidence back in himself and he knows what he has to work on, he's not just staying in LEC, he wants to win and to improve. Not like a lot of other players in the LEC who don't care as long as they play in LEC

[@christmastimelor790]

Rogue top 3, mark my words.

[@Crickily]

Yike is gonna have zero trouble. That team is really good! K Corp will be better in Spring. They will be elite when they get rid of Targamas, I view him like a cancer. He will not be good. I would rate LEC.... 1. G2 2. BDS 3. FNC 4. GX 5. K Corp 6. KOI 7. SK 8. Rogue 9. Vitality 10. Heretics Jojopyun does not change life for KOI. He merely changes how they will lose. People forget that team was awful for two splits. I think Elyoya is overthinking it at times or is washed. I think Supa is overrated and Myrwnn as well. Alvaro is solid but scared to make plays at times. I feel he will be better but not that much better that they can get over certain deficiencies. SK is slightly better than advertised. GX will be solid and has growth thanks to good vets and experience coming in to help elevate talents like Jackies and Lot. BDS is really underrated, I think Irrelevant is a Top 3 Top Laner in LEC this year right now. 113 is a good wild card to have, in my opinion he is a more effective wild card than Myrwnn is for Koi just works for a lineup like this that needs some edge. Parus is really, Ice is solid, like actually solid. BDS will scare some teams.

[@iagofernandez8164]

Ni idea tienes macho

[@xEmpress95]

10. Heretics -- Too many unknowns with a known quantity ADC that isn't going to win you games. Flakked is fine as a stable ADC, but when him & Sheo are the "experienced" players on the team, I just don't think they have enough experience or have shown enough breakout spotlight moments to reliably put the team on the back. The rookies might impress, but it's a uphill battle. 9. SK Gaming -- I might be being very pessimistic, and I haven't seen the ERLs, but I also don't believe ERLs can be trusted signs of excellence unless you're consistently dominating. So I have very little faith in Reeker or JNX. I think Isma is fine, but losing such a dedicated midlaner for Reeker is worrisome. Loopy could be good. Rahel I'm high on but language barrier and being on SK Gaming is a worry. I can never truly trust SK Gaming as an organization to set players up for success. 8. Karmine Corp -- I'm operating on faith here in the 8-5 range. I do think Caliste has a lot of hype, and I hope he lands feet first. I do worry for Targamas, I think Vladi is strong and the team is strong, I just don't know how well they'll mesh together. And in terms of players and coaches that I personally believe in, there are some coming up that I just think will navigate the early season better. 7. GiantX -- Same issue as Karmine Corp. There's language barriers here, and I don't see any standout faculty staff to really bring the most out of these players. I worry about Noah going into an org like XL. I know GiantX is a fusion of XL and Giants, but there have been stories. It's a full team re-shuffle, so we'll see. Strong players, but I don't see a lot of direction unless Jun & Closer can really stamp their branding on the team. (And that branding has to be the same.) 6. Vitality -- I wanna believe more, I do. I have hope for Hylli still, I have faith in Carzzy, and I do believe that Mac and Pad have a vision that they are trying to make work. I hope they know what they're doing and I'm willing to belive in Naak Nako and Czajek for that very reason. That said, there's too many question marks and I feel I'm already going only on faith just to place them 6th. I do see why people would have doubts and place them below Karmine and GiantX. Because I do think KC and GX are more stable players individually. I'm just hoping Vitality is finally gonna find their foundation as a whole. 5. ROGUE -- I want this to succeed. I still believe Larssen has his moments. I still believe Patrik has his moments. I still think Adam is a great top laner, albeit with some personal attitude problems he needs to fix. I wanna hope Execute lives up to hype. And I wanna hope Malrang can rediscover his form. I think regardless it's going to be a very fun team to watch and if they do click and play at their ceilings, it's gonna be a very difficult team to overcome. Patrik has always had a high FWD%, KDA & DPM. Larssen has always had strong lane control and CS. Adam has typically been involved in a lot of kills and FBs and roams very unpredictably. Malrang ganks very unpredictably and builds very unpredictably. And I think there can be a lot of strength to that chaos. 4. KOI -- I mean, I actually don't like the team personally, but I'm also not gonna be so foolish as to ignore what they have accomplished. They are strong players, with a very high ceiling, I think Jojo can make or break that ceiling. They have the benefit of keeping 4 of their 5 players which is good. Should make them very stable going into the season. Whether they trend up or down depends entirely on how well Elyoya-Jojopyun click. 3. BDS -- I actually worry a lot about 1131. See: SK Gaming. I'm not in touch with the ERLs and I'm not a particular believer in the ERLs forging talent. I think generation talent finds its way to the ERLs and usually takes over/stands out head and shoulders above the rest. I don't believe JNX is that. I don't belive Reeker ist hat. I don't believe 113 is that. And it hurts even more knowing we've seen them in the LEC and perform at such a level. Good news for 113, or bad news, depending, he now has a very strong team around him and its make or break for his career. Irrelevant is as stable a toplaner as you could ask for. Nuc is a very good midlaner. Ice was probably arguably the best ADC mechanically last year. Parus is hyped coming in. And BDS management has just consistently pushed this team to overperform. 2. Fnatic -- ..........I....... I wish I could believe. I really do, but fuck am I tired of the Fnatic hype train. They always make fine changes. They always perform well. I don't believe for a second they'll ever beat G2 in a Finals again. It's very make or break. Because if THIS roster can't do it. Miky, Upset? With Grabbz and Gaax? Like, at what point do you finally accept that Razork-Huma isn't the Jungle-Mid to get you over the finish line. They're 2 on talent alone. They always will be. They do enough right for that. But.... I'm jaded. I can't believe. 1. G2 -- I mean, see KOI. I don't particularly like them. I mean, I like BrokenBlade and Caps, Hans is... Fine... I have no opinion on Labrov / Skewmond. As an org, they always win and end up being our highest achievers. DylanFalco is an incredible coach, Romain is an incredible team manager. G2 will win at least two titles this year. They'll overperform MSI, underperform Worlds. And probably beat Fnatic in the lower bracket finals at least once before losing to freakin' KOI in Winter because they played like ass.

[@blamethesillynotthegoose8120]

i disagree sm, but i see why u think what u think. respectable. i heavily agree on the humanoid razork combo,the BDS coach and heretics

[@xEmpress95]

@@blamethesillynotthegoose8120 Oh, absolutely, I expect most to disagree. And to be fair to some like Hans Sama being "fine", that one's purely just from a content/persona perspective. He does absolutely deserve his spot on G2. It'll be interesting to see if BDS can make the new roster work, tbh. Their first roster that dumpster dived had Grabbz as head coach. And every year since under GotoOne & Striker, and now Striker in the last two years, they've been consistently Top 4 material. But this is the first big year BDS has changed multiple parts vs. changing Crownie for Ice. Now you've stripped the roster down to just two core pieces (Nuc & Ice) and I think that's gonna be a big test. Especially when Adam was such a core part of their identity, and well, it always hurts losing Jungle-Supp for playmaking/shotcalling/teamfighting.

[@blamethesillynotthegoose8120]

@@xEmpress95 yeah i agree, im really excited to see what will happen. I think bds out of all the teams in the lec, besides g2, has always looked so much more well coached. i wonder if striker got the pieces he wanted even if they look a little out of left field for us.

[@xEmpress95]

​@@blamethesillynotthegoose8120 Checked into the breaking of the news cycle throughout the off-season. "According to sources close to Sheep Esports, Polat "Parus" Furkan Çiçek will be Team BDS' new support for the upcoming LEC season and Labros “Labrov” Papoutsakis is free to explore his options for the offseason. In addition to these two, Team BDS has also reportedly let Adam "Adam" Maanane, Janik "JNX" Bartels, Tim "Keduii" Willers and Steven "Reeker" Chen explore offers. Team BDS is the main team in charge of the dominoes this League of Legends' offseason. The Swiss team has nine players, including players from both the LEC and academy teams, who finish their contracts this year and with that a major headache for next year." Looks like Parus was one of the first locks. And of any of the players in question, Labrov to G2 would be the biggest worry but they made that change 6 days before Worlds 2024 even started. So unless they already had some inkling that G2 would be dropping Miky & Yike going into Worlds, which seems unlikely, I think they got everything they wanted. Irrelevant I feel was an easy lock, I'm very high on him, I think everyone should be. Him, BrokenBlade, Adam & Oscar are probably the 4 best native toplaners in EU right now. Ice & 113 are very aggressive, so if they wanna play Nuc-113 down toward bot lane, unlock Ice, as a carry. Irrelevant is probably the safest hand you could have top lane while still being able to carry himself if need be. He reminds me a lot of Odoamne & Wunder like that. Which those two also 2 in that conversation with Adam/Oscar/Irrelevant. I think BrokenBlade IS the best toplaner. Period. Interestingly, the 113 news came after Sheo had already signed with Heretics, meaning they knew that Jankos wasn't going to be playing. They also knew Jankos's contract with Heretics was up anyway this November. Which means they deliberately chose not to go for him. There is something to be said, though, that maybe they wanted to keep Sheo, but Sheo wanted a new environment? Because they DIDN'T already announce that he was being changed / free to explore options. I think 113 was at least a #2 or 3 options. Maybe finance played a part in it with the Esports Winter / contract limits. That said, the more I think about it, the more I think 113 makes sense for BDS. They always do go for ERL talent, I think Striker brings the best out of ERL talent, I think BDS has a stable enough foundation like G2 where they can bring somebody in and set them up for success whereas the other teams are kind of a shambolic mess. I think 113's aggression fits in. I think they'll probably play bot side and have Irrelevant largely play weak side/tank it up. But of course if there's ever an opening for Irrelevant to play Jax, it's there. But I fully expect him to be on Gnar / Ornn / K'sante / Maokai / Skarner / Zac duty.

[@Gurpreet-sv5zg]

Fnatic got worse. Def a deluded G2 fan I see.

[@drazdusty7803]

Tragic we have to watch upset play for KDA for another split

[@Zozo-3AM]

Grow eyes rtrd

[@Linesweeper]

​@@Zozo-3AM yeah give Upset a chance! He's only been in 3 no wait 4 no wait 5 stacked teams with 0 accomplishments! He's just a young player guys. He even went to worlds one time

[@hectichoundoom1871]

​@@Linesweeper kcorp was NOT a stacked roster it was a bad team from a bad org,

[@Linesweeper]

@@hectichoundoom1871 Kcorp was highly projected before the games start. As was Vitality when Upset joined. Since he left Astralis Upset has joined teams where the sentiment has been "omg Upset is finally on a good team" and everytime it goes to shit it's the same "yeah he didn't play great, but what could he do? The team was shit"

[@hectichoundoom1871]

@@Linesweeper upset was absolutely smurfing on vitality

[@Cuskocuint]

Malrang was the worst jungler in the history of CBLOL.

[@CocytusCrowley]

Wait he really that bad now I genuinely have no clue 😅

[@BernardoFerreti-yq8jh]

​​@@CocytusCrowleyTo say that he is the worst in history is an exaggeration, he wasn't even the worst this year, but without a doubt he is a player who has no level for cblol and much less for lec

[@Gurpreet-sv5zg]

@BernardoFerreti-yq8jh Hard to look good in bronzil.

[@BernardoFerreti-yq8jh]

@@Gurpreet-sv5zg Did you see any of his games on CBLOL? because he was bad from the first game where he picked amumu and killed himself for the other team

[@FrogWalrus]

@BernardoFerreti-yq8jh but he was solid years ago and has history with Larssen, maybe he turns it around.

[@Squiddledorf]

Yike and Targamas... Jungle-support will have no synergy.

[@Oerleuks]

We will see

[@LeRetourduDuc]

What a disaster class, koi as strong as fnatic ??? Kcorp as strong as vitality ??? Rogue is so over rated, thats an 0/20

[@kdodkoeofofekfe3121]

Dude is making a tierlist he doesn't know half the players

[@christmastimelor790]

Dude is making a comment he doesn't have half his braincells working.

[@yihadistxdl951]

he doesnt know 2-3 players. there are 50 players. i think you need to get your math checked brother

[@blanco2407]

I know los ratones will take everything

[@hehexd5317]

are people really hyping labrov to the point that he ended up on g2... lol, lmao even, the guy has been bottom tier for years, the one year he was "good" was when the other supports (miky/hyli) were inting or were just not on a team (trymbi)... unreal lmao

[@vyyr]

or maybe labrov used to be a soloq demon that didn't pan out in the LEC at first but every team mate and coach still had respect for him, and after finally being comfortable in the league he started performing?

[@hehexd5317]

@@vyyr labrov is dogshit trash, i do not care what cope you're spewing, you're greek for sure

[@FrogWalrus]

Labrov was hype in 2022, was he not? I remember him being seen as da shit.

[@hehexd5317]

@@FrogWalrus he was dogshit on vitality, dogshit on any team he has been on, the guy is has some dirt on some bigwigs to still be on an actual team...

[@wowJhil]

Beside G2, probably KOI in the top. FNC highly overrated, should be just middle of the pack. Most likely 3rd best performed I would say is BDS, looks most solid and reliable. The other teams feels like they could easily be like the messy teams of 2024 without clear improvements.

[@xshadowhandx]

Who's grandpa is talking about e sports. Don't you have some shuffle board game you should be waddling to?

[@rochiesama2680]

Jojo about to run lec

[@zobtastik]

Yeah like he ran LCS?

[@rochiesama2680]

@@zobtastikyeah he really ran it down

[@robi-go1em]

yeah and run late to the office too hahahah lmao pretty unprofesional..