21,000 Fires a Year! China’s Often Self-Igniting EVs & EBs Become Ubiquitous ‘Moving Bombs’

On March 4th, several videos circulating online captured the moment a white new energy vehicle exhibited at the Hangzhou Auto City caught fire. According to reports, smoke suddenly billowed from this vehicle within the exhibition hall of the auto city. Firefighters rushed to the scene, daringly moved the smoking car to the parking lot outside, where it erupted into flames.
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[@nsal1957]

The conclusion is that Chinese EVs produce more CO2 than any combustion vehicle.

[@aaroncapricorn5867]

you mean plant food? LITHIUM IS WHAT'S BAD. OTHER STUFF IS WHAT'S BAD. you are talking plant food

[@DatBoiOrly]

not only that they're only good for around 5 years (since that's the life of the battery) meaning it doesn't become carbon neutral from the manufacturing (since that takes 10 years). not only that the use of cobalt in the makings of the li-ion batteries creates a byproduct that's worse for the environment than spent uranium

[@eaglevision993]

Well..in a way they are combustion vehicles when they go up in flames so....

[@radiowolf3016]

Thats a good point!

[@Debbie-henri]

​@@eaglevision993Not just that, the electricity to charge the bicycles may well have been generated by one of China's many coal fired power stations in the first place.

[@user-hv7kt9zc3m]

This is why you dont buy from a country with no rules and regulations

[@vueport99]

And that's why they prefer to buy imports or items made for export. Cuz even food items made for export has higher quality

[@twystedhumour]

Untrue! CCP has rules and regulations, just bad ones!

[@ayylien]

Even worse is countries allowing Chinese EV and Electric scooter/bike/boards companies to sell. Bad idea, I would not want my car to burn down just because it was parked next to a chinese EV 3 rows down.

[@tony2707]

BYD and CATL produce the safest EV batteries in the world, guess which country these companies belong to.

[@charleswomack2166]

Or you could just pedal and get exercise at the same time. A win-win!

[@MadStyle1911]

Chinese EV makers not giving a damn about their products safety.

[@blackbelt2000]

Or anything else

[@lb9770]

Safety third!

[@tripytaka9462]

The vape juice produced in China must be of the highest standard.

[@sleepinglaffey3886]

sloprosperity

[@Nooptema]

You should look up the the story about the gas cylinder from an office chair that exploded and fatally injured a 14 year old boy.

[@arisaga822]

You have a choice, buy an internal combustion vehicle, or a spontaneous combustion vehicle😂

[@eaglevision993]

Since the batteries are inside the vehicle and combusts.... they are probably considered "internal combustion vehicles"

[@TheRealCatof]

Or just don't buy chinese products

[@leebindeman7792]

Ha ha. The sales people should ask if you want an internal combustion or external combustion bike.

[@soundseeker63]

EV = Explosive vehicle 😵

[@TheRealCatof]

@@soundseeker63 To be fair, more Ford Pintos exploded than all EVs combined

[@neighborhoodcatlady6094]

Cannot imagine bringing one of these bikes into a high rise. Madness.

[@Ezekiel903]

beside that, the CCP claims there is no crime in China, then why are all bringing their e-rollers in their apartment and why are steel grid outside every window, even in the 20 floor

[@gimpinainteasy]

It is truly nightmare fuel..

[@bbrebozo6417]

The worst part is the government won’t tell people and will censor others trying to warn people.

[@alicedai98]

No better off, if they park in basement parking lot.

[@smgdfcmfah]

@@alicedai98 Sure you are. Underground parking is all concrete and usually has a sprinkler system. They're also vented separately and have an excellent fire barrier to the floors above. Underground parking is the most likely place for a serious fire due to the gasoline fueled cars, so they are designed and built with the worst case scenario in mind - at least in the western world.

[@MisterLumpkin]

There is an old Chinese saying; If you can cheat... cheat.

[@hermes667]

Oh could a be a Russian one, too. XD

[@smgdfcmfah]

And if you CAN'T cheat, cheat and lie.

[@smgdfcmfah]

@@ErnieBateman "B-b-b-b-but Trump....!" What does any of this have to do with Trump? The whole world is a fckn' mess due to commies and ultra leftists in power in EVERY western nation and you're STILL blaming Trump? You REALLY need to stop listening to MSM and other BS and think for yourself - if you're capable.

[@No_Moo_Hyun]

In Korea, there is a proverb that goes, “The one who is deceived is the one who is at fault.” ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

[@Xorcist777]

That is not a Chinese proverb its human depravity.

[@robertdaoust5691]

Typical government response, the fault is the user doing something wrong, not that the batteries are being made substandard quality.

[@smgdfcmfah]

That's only the government's response because the government are ultimately responsible for the whole mess that's in place. If their hands were clean, they'd happily hold the the manufacturers responsible (assuming they aren't being paid off).

[@patpatpat999]

My neighbors were out of their house for nine months because they bought a Chinese generic replacement battery for their Dyson electric vacuum. It exploded while charging killing their dog and smoke damaging the entire house. This is just another random product that anyone can get off Amazon..

[@madisonevans7950]

jesus, I hope more people see your comment

[@miriamsipsey9034]

Every Country Manufactured their kind of BATTERY BRAND WHETHER IT IS EXPENSIVE OR CHEAP KINDS BUT ELON MUSK IS "NOT CONCERNED" ABOUT BATTERY AS LONG AS HIS EV- INVENTION IS SOLD WORLDWIDE & CAUSED WREAK HAVOC TO PEOPLE & ENVIROMENT.

[@jileelmcdaniels7331]

Buy japanese or korean if possible. China is a no go.

[@elikyiael8740]

that's so horrible

[@germyw]

Omg! Those poor people.

[@kevinbarry71]

When those batteries burn they put an awful lot of extremely toxic material into the atmosphere and the environment around it

[@j777barbasiewicz]

Top green idiots don't care if it is toxic or not.

[@thunder131]

That so called Green substitute

[@SteveEddy-od7fb]

Yes they are saving the planet?😂😂😂

[@christo2974]

The problem is idiots people keep buying them.

[@bobbytorres5630]

So in NY many idiots are buying.

[@Kalvinjj]

You can say that to the western population that has access to better options and are just being cheapskates, but for the Chinese it's not fair to say it. They've literally got no better option, and might very well rely on those to even get to where they need (like work, classes or such).

[@phann860]

I think it was explained they have no choice but to buy them.

[@Kalvinjj]

@@nvcxznbcxz To begin with I never said anything about batteries being produced in Europe, even tho Tesla does produce theirs in the USA Gigafactory, and Panasonic produces cells in Japan as well if you're talking about options outside of China, but even that isn't the problem. The Chinese cells aren't the issue for being built there, but the simply obvious lack of quality control and quality overall of the domestic market products they're selling in China for the Chinese is what I'm talking about. The Chinese make batteries for all kinds of products we use, high quality products at that, so we DO have better options even from China itself, the Chinese people don't tho, unless you want to import something from overseas if even possible, and then deal with parking it along the other bombs for maximum investment protection.

[@djsentox]

@@nvcxznbcxz ''here we go again....''

[@germyw]

I REALLY wish we would stop dealing with China for anything.

[@colingregson8653]

It's all about the money cha ching, cha Ching 💰💰💰

[@surreyscouse2873]

🇬🇧 ditto.

[@Bobo-ox7fj]

Does anyone in your country eat rice, potatoes, apples? Food prices will spike pretty hard if a net-importing country cuts ties with the horror that is Chhhhhhyna

[@martinwinlow]

What, like your iPhone, you mean...?

[@tonyhewitt1125]

Here in Oz, a few months back we noticed the Corona Bottled Beers had printed on the bottle and packaging " Brewed & Bottled in China". That's the end of that beer for me & my mates with that crap. The Bottle Shop didn't know a thing about it. I made sure everyone else in the shop heard me say I won't be buying that Crap anymore.

[@Rayden440]

I feel bad for the fire fighters who risk their lives to pour water on a fire they can’t possibly put out

[@mweskamppp]

It can be put out. It is not magnesium metal that burns under water. There are methods and technology to do it, if necessary. Just not available everywhere yet.

[@stevenjohns1322]

I’ll stick to my V-6 that I’ve had for 10 years now, petrol prices may have gone up but my car hasn’t gone up in a ball of flames

[@haraldschon252]

!! Verbrenner brennen 10 mal öfter! Und

[@mweskamppp]

@@haraldschon252 Yup, some years ago f.e. BMW cars started spontaneous combustion because of some design flaw of the EGR valve. The car of my wife - an audi - nearly went up in flames. A plug in the engine area was burned, lucky it went out by itself just needed some repairs.

[@haraldschon252]

@@mweskamppp Statistics show low fire risk in electric cars According to a study by the US insurer Automobile Insurance, combustion engines burn 60 times more often than electric cars. According to the study, 1,529.9 out of 100,000 combustion engines burn, but only 25.1 out of 100,000 electric cars. In percentage terms, this means that only 0.03 percent of electric cars were on fire. In comparison, 1.53 percent of gasoline-powered cars caught fire. A total of 199,533 combustion engines burned in the USA in one year.

[@mweskamppp]

@@haraldschon252 So the USA knows it too then. It seems my numbers were a bit conservative.

[@uss-dh7909]

@@haraldschon252 I'm curious now, what do the stats show if the number of EV vehicles matched the number of ICE vehicles, how do things stack then?

[@shereemorgan1430]

Don't buy Chinese goods!

[@kevindarkstar]

Virtually impossible these days, look at the phone in your hand or the computer on your desk, and hundreds of items around your house 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@KP-xi4bj]

@@kevindarkstar Total BS. Manufacturers like Apple, Samsung, etc. have moved manufacturing to nearby countries like Vietnam, Thailand, etc.

[@kevindarkstar]

@@KP-xi4bj nope, sorry but it's not BS it's just a simple fact, even if certain companies have moved to Vietnam or Thailand I'll wager that a some of the parts originated in China and that aside there will be dozens of items in your home whose original is China, I'm not saying that you can't avoid it if you really try, but if you casually buy on line especially amazon or Ebay ect you will almost certainly get Chinese manufactured goods 😁

[@kevindarkstar]

@@KP-xi4bj The latest iPhones are mostly made in China, but rely on components from all over the world. Apple has also shifted the assembly of older iPhone models to other Asian countries, namely India and Vietnam. Is the iPhone made in the USA? No, the iPhone is assembled in China, Vietnam, and India.11 Dec 2023 So your statement is only partially correct 😉

[@KP-xi4bj]

@@kevindarkstar On Amazon, it does tell you where it's made. Easiest decision you'll ever make in your life.

[@Carnyzzle]

Keep this video in mind once China's EVs start getting imported into your country

[@TheCameraNever]

Uhm, Tesla's!

[@That0therAsian]

​​​​​@@TheCameraNever Tesla's Shanghai factory services only China Most of Tesla's production, assembly and repair still takes place in the U.S. Source: Worked in the Tesla Fremont Factory. Worked the Model X/S battery line for 2 years and Model Y battery line shipping to Gigafactory Texas for 1 year

[@kadmow]

@@TheCameraNever - most of the Chinese manufactured Teslas do have LiFePO4 batteries - less fire prone than Li-Co-Al/Mn

[@Carnyzzle]

@@TheCameraNever I don't like Tesla's self driving but they don't spontaneously explode when when you're not charging them every single week

[@BusbyTreeSurgery]

haha their batteries are used by all manufacturers

[@arby2348]

And they want to sell that crap to the world. Too funny

[@Sacto1654]

This is why despite what some EV advocates claim, BYD and other Chinese EV manufacturers will not do well outside of China.

[@Daniel-qr6sx]

@@Sacto1654 in a way true, but we dont hear much about it in my country.

[@gimpinainteasy]

It isn't their fault. It is the worlds for buying it. Can't sell what they don't buy.

[@ruffnut743]

@@Sacto1654 Tesla has been buying and using Chinese batteries for years

[@Bobo-ox7fj]

@@Sacto1654 Tesla seems to have been coasting on bulltish subsidies for quite a while...

[@fba90130]

Searching for Chinese battery gets you flagged. It's an incendiary device.

[@b21raider27]

Cheaply made batteries, cheap chargers (wrong ones for battery as well), excessive charging… China needs a safety standard like UL.

[@brigettegonzalez2632]

They do : " yu ll " give me money, i looks other way

[@gimpinainteasy]

Batteries blowing up.. and buildings made without rebarb.. I can't believe this country is still around.

[@twystedhumour]

But... they made paper and fireworks! They're just making more fireworks with the batteries... and buildings out of paper 🤣

[@gimpinainteasy]

@@twystedhumour Your name is on point lol.

[@meskonyolsen6657]

Casualties first! Combustion second! Explosion third! Sorrow fourth! Recession fifth! CO2 sixth! Safety LAST!

[@hermes667]

This channel usually does not put the numbers in relaton to the size of the country and often shows incidents from different years. China has a billion people. Thats three times as much as the US. So quite normal to have three times the accidents. But I also think china sells their better quality products to western countries, while they sell the crap to their own people. Their own people can not speak out about this. Also I think their is a lot of corruption in China which leads to disobey common safety rules. Also every country has its special problems which are not easy to adress because of culture and mentality. For a general comparision I would say there are way more shootings in the US per 1000 people than in China, Germany or Russia. While Germany has a very high level of alcohol consumption, higher than Russia which puts a burden on their health system. China has a lot of problems thats true, but I do not think these quality problems and corruption bring them down. We need to look at similiar countries like North Korea and Russia. Full of crap and corruption, but still dangerous. We should not underestimate them.

[@gimpinainteasy]

@@hermes667 I don't under estimate anyone. Especially being driven by mad men. I don't care how big your country is.. Buildings crumbling no matter what timeframe is insane. People dying over INTENTIAL lack of accountability is horrible. If we ( the US) are getting the better quality of stuff. I am appalled at what you do for your own people. It is insane..

[@edwardfletcher7790]

As an Electronics Technician I can say that 95% of the time this is low quality batteries and chargers and poor manufacturing standards. Domestic fire extinguishers CANNOT stop these fires !

[@Infernal_Elf]

Indeed Lithium ion batteries burn until it has burned out all the cells and flammable electrolytes. Only thing u can do is contain the fire to the burning vehicle.

[@emmapeel8163]

NYC is having same issues. many fires & fatalities w/EV bikes & scooters. these things are dangerous!

[@GoboBox]

Big problem in NYC

[@bobbytorres5630]

Thats only shows many idiots in NY!

[@bobbytorres5630]

Guess there are too many idiots in NYC!

[@alexholker1309]

Even Louis Rossman - a right to repair advocate on KZbin - has had a couple of electric bike fires. A modern battery has to safely regulate an unreasonable amount of chemical potential energy, and people need to not pinch pennies on a component that will happily transform itself into an incendiary device if something goes wrong.

[@Charlie-hz3tk]

Nahhh….it’s the illegal immigrants keeping warm

[@sporehux8344]

The way they avoid blaming batteries makes you wonder how many officials are owners of the battery factories

[@Zodliness]

Proving Chinese EV's aren't even guaranteed to make it out of their own showrooms! 🤔😂

[@bushelfoot]

I think ill stay with the internal combustion engine, the external combustion engines are too dangerous..

[@needmoreramsay]

That's an absolute NIGHTMARE being trapped in an elevator with a burning ebike !!! That's horrible.

[@StarNumbers]

... and being recorded the whole time. They will not show you the end -- only say they got out in time.

[@powershift2024]

This economy is on 🔥🔥🔥

[@rogerknight8092]

BYD - Burn Your Dreams 😂

[@dunxy]

Funny but not funny

[@Hawkertempest1]

Love your comment1👍

[@silvanotonini9151]

I think the biggest problem is lack of quality control in making the batteries, I have found the biggest problem with Chinese goods is quality control it's non-existent.

[@Xubaosong]

Uhm … i’m thinking of Boeing

[@stevenjohns1322]

Umm I’m thinking more about corruption in the safety standards

[@cedhome7945]

Have a friend who was sent to china to improve quality with product sent to europe.the factory manager could not grasp the concept,all he responded with was well we can make double for the same price......

[@avatarjoejoe]

flaming e bikes are how they plan to conqer taiwan

[@scrollop]

Via alibaba or dropped out of a plane?

[@jobslolo7387]

exporting said flaming ebike to taiwan - 5head move

[@miguelarivera]

No way am I ever going to park an EV in my garage, ever!

[@brucesmith9144]

Certainly not with the battery 🔋

[@Bobo-ox7fj]

If they keep going the way they are, it'll be pretty difficult to insure any building with an EV parked inside.

[@none8708]

U park it outside, gets stolen….

[@Lancashire_Lass]

Simple solution, don’t buy one, not until they have improved the technology.

[@StarNumbers]

On an incline leading to a swimming pool?

[@needmoreramsay]

Those things are a DEATH TRAP on two wheels !!!

[@johnwilliams8855]

Every city is going to be a lithium toxic waste land. Lithium batteries should have never been made.

[@amariregina6504]

Great you should lead by example and get rid of your phones and computers

[@derekcable]

​@@amariregina6504how many phone or laptop batteries can be made from one EV battery 🤔

[@Bobo-ox7fj]

@@amariregina6504 Maybe his phone and laptops run on nicads or nimh, like they all used to...

[@martinwinlow]

(Oh, dear...) You do know that lithium, itself, isn't actually toxic, don't you? One of the main lithium-based battery chemistries 'lithium iron phosphate' isn't toxic at all either. It is only the inclusion of *very small* amounts of toxic rare earth elements such as cobalt that make *some* lithium-based batteries 'toxic'. And even then, they pale in comparison with the standard lead-acid battery that has been in every car since the dawn of the mass-motoring age. Consider the number of lead-acid batteries that surround you everywhere you go! Where do you people get your information from? Do you just believe everything you read or hear without taking a moment to question the source and what axe they may have to grind or what profit they may be trying to protect by spreading this sort of click-bait screaming hysterical headline nonsense? Some perspective (which took exactly 5 seconds to discover via an internet search) - "An estimated 212,500 vehicle fires caused 560 civilian deaths 1,500 civilian injuries; and $1.9 billion in direct property damage in the US during 2018.": www.nfpa.org/education-and-research/research/nfpa-research/fire-statistical-reports/vehicle-fires. Every year it is much the same story. And that's just the US. Please get a grip!

[@mweskamppp]

@@Bobo-ox7fj Nickel and Cadmium are much worse by the way.

[@billvan5219]

I can't even imagine serving on a submarine equipped with Chinese made batteries 😮

[@billvan5219]

@@Dead_Kerbal are you quite sure what the Chinese are doing?

[@yenjun0204]

@@Dead_Kerbal@Dead_Kerbal Actually, China claimed they are developing an e-Sub long time ago, and it could be the quietest submarine ever.

[@adamh1228]

@@Dead_Kerbal lol, you sure about that? diesel subs 100% have massive battery banks. how do you think they run underwater?

[@GrzegorzDurda]

@@Dead_Kerbal Dude electric subs are all over the place. They are hybrids and can recharge either on the surface or with a snorkel. The tech has been in use since WW2.

[@TCBOT]

it will leak beffor the battery fails if its made in china lol

[@grahamdwells]

To the people complaining that your bike has been distroyed in a centralised parking and charging facility I say if it had not been in the facility but in the apartment block you could have lost your apartment and even your life. Sad and expensive as it is to lose your bike, be thankful you only lost your bike.

[@flamesintheattic]

That smoke coming out of the batteries is incredibly toxic. The only way to put out a lihium battery fire is with large amounts of salt water.

[@hitest8925]

Confounding the problem is the fact that many of the fire prevention/suppression systems are inoperable if present at all.

[@Kalvinjj]

And it's near impossible to put out a Li-Ion fire. The thing self-oxidizes, it just sustains the reaction for as long as it chemically has enough energy. An EV on fire underwater will keep burning. LiFe-Po and similar (or better) technology is the only way to mitigate this problem for good, going back to lead acid or Ni-MH batteries ain't gonna cut it.

[@smgdfcmfah]

@@Kalvinjj True. Even a good extinguisher made for this purpose may put out the flames temporarily, but there's little stopping the process from restarting once your extinguisher runs out since it's a dry chemical reaction that fuels the fire.

[@zomfragger]

They did say year of the dragon. They didn't expect a fire dragon.

[@johndoh5182]

It is not the case that LI-Ion batteries are notorious for exploding or even catching fire. Li-Ion batteries that are not made to a HIGH STANDARD, for which they HAVE TO BE, are notorious for catching fire. This is a Chinese exclusive problem right now, it could spread to other countries when those countries don't have good consumer protections including the right to sue companies. But, in the US when it's been found that certain products have batteries that have been show to fail, there are recalls, law suits, etc..... to make sure it doesn't keep happening and this is consequently why Tesla vehicles rarely experience fires and the newer the vehicles are the more likely they never catch fire as Tesla works to continuously improve their own batteries, or the batteries they get via supply chains. It's also why Tesla would rather use Li-Ion batteries made in Japan and are more expensive than use batteries from China and typically only use Chinese made batteries in the Chinese market. And this is also why Apple has a LOT of inspection of their supply chains for parts that will go into their devices and will boot companies from being a supplier for Apple when it's shown their quality dropped. You HAVE to do this if you manufacture in China because a company will make a product to the specs a company wants and then 1 year later you find they've changed out some stuff so they can make more profit and now the quality isn't the same. It's also why most European and American companies should have NEVER started manufacturing in China.

[@getreal2977]

Importing Russian roulette fire bombs on wheels should be declared illegal, period.

[@markmiller8903]

BAN EVS.

[@kenmcleod8618]

You buy junk, you get junk 😂

[@SERGIO-cr6uy]

Funny enough, I just got a KZbin Ad for an e-bike... Great algorithm! 😂

[@Richie_]

the batteries provide their own oxygen. That's why it's hard to put the fires out.

[@Puretea4711]

would never buy anything with a battery "made in china"......

[@ComeJesusChrist]

Like every single smart phone would be?!

[@djm2189]

​@@ComeJesusChrist production moved away. But remember even when they were made in China there was quality control from headquarters. For example could you imagine if iPhones continually blew up in the west? Reputation down and countries would ban them. They always sent their own quality control team to oversee.

[@waynehollins1193]

I agree 💯

[@TheCameraNever]

You won't be buying much then

[@joelbelmonte374]

You guys know that 77% of the batteries are made in China? Good luck to those who says China battery are crap and never buy again one😂

[@signpost5596]

BYD and other Chinese EV brands are being sold in Europe. Let's see how they do over there. If they're made as poorly as their domestic e-bikes then they'll be banned for sure.

[@hermes667]

I really doubt they sell this crap to Europe. They do as every dictatorship does, shit on own people an try to look good to others. I am from Germany. All car reviews for Chinese cars I saw where quite ok, even the German technical organisation (TÜV) which checks every vehicle every two years had not found anything worse than with other manufacturers. But the sale numbers a quite overestimated. The most sold Chinese car in Germany last year was the MG, and that was around 22.000 cars. When it comes to EVs, Germans mostly buy Tesla, Hyundai and VW. And when it comes to electrial bikes you hardly would finde someone who tries to fix it by himself. For China these may be common daily use vehicles, for Germans it is more a fancy thing to buy when you already have anything and want to look like you care about the enviroment. Or for elderly people who want to look sporty ("Hey i am 70 and still ride a bike"). They are also called "retiree killers" because so much elderly people who are not able to handle them are killed in traffic.

[@rudyubaldo8793]

My trust in anything made there is completely gone!!

[@Trustworthy_McLegitimate]

Lithium is about to become scarce and its being WASTED in these shoddy batteries

[@kwisatzhaderach1458]

A guy in Ross was talking on the phone, and I heard him tell his gf how a percussion massager he bought there caught fire in the middle of the night and nearly burned his apartment down

[@rogerbartlet5720]

Lithium Ion batteries don't age well and after years of bouncing around on a bicycle frame we'll see more of this.

[@rsoul7282]

Nonsense, I have lithium ion batteries that have powered my tools which are well over 10 years old and they get absolutely caned and then chucked in a tool bag in the back of a vehicle, that does thousands of kilometres a week. Often on rough unsealed roads and mine sites, in blistering heat. The difference is, is that they were of good quality to begin with, and I charge them correctly.

[@rogerbartlet5720]

@@rsoul7282 Yea, that's the same as being driving on a road all day 🤣🤣🤣

[@rsoul7282]

@@rogerbartlet5720 it’s actually tougher conditions than what these batteries are encountering, they aren’t on the end of a hammer drill or subjected to sustained periods of 40+ degrees heat, but hey, you are entitled to your own thoughts, who am I to present a counter argument.

[@Bobo-ox7fj]

@@rogerbartlet5720 Tool batteries get totally flogged with rapid draining, rapid charging, constant vibration and the occasional shock when they're dropped off a ladder or slammed against a wall when drill binds up. They routinely get so hot internally during use that almost all chargers are built to check a thermal probe in the battery before they charge. Most brands withstand this just fine for many hundreds of charge cycles, because the cells are good quality and they're made with care - you can afford to hand-assemble them at the prices we get charged.

[@fredneecher1746]

Let's all ignore that EV batteries can suddenly burst into flames and just concentrate on "poor quality". Do you ever see even a poor quality ICE car explode like that? No, because they can't.

[@keyeshayes7857]

This is why Toyota refuses EV only stupids willing to take chance to burn him or herself. 🤪

[@D0NU75]

Electric bicycles? just use your goddamn feet, that's what pedals are for!

[@bruninhamrso]

They can't sell these here but they are dumping cheap EVs that can do the same cross the globe

[@tabbott429]

Poor engineering and profit motives over quality is to blame.....GREED

[@TheCameraNever]

Their buildings are the same shoddy quality

[@TheCameraNever]

Thanks for the bright red circles without them I would never have spotted the explosions and screen full of smoke

[@X1Daring2]

They don't even need fireworks at this point smh

[@joehed8328]

Over population, STOP for crying out loud 😵‍💫

[@hungp.8191]

Isn't BYU trying to get into the US market to sell their cars? I wouldn't even touch it even if I got it for free...

[@spiritual_awekening]

This is an external combustion engine. A good old internal combustion engine seems far better.

[@CookiePepper]

Any EV promoting faster charging is a red flag.

[@MySkinnydip]

Those people sure are brave flying around in those air taxis! 😅

[@Erebus-PCFX]

The first car that caught fire while exhibited is a *Karry K60 EV/Ciwei EV400* produced by *Chery Automobile* , so a big brand...

[@JoeBManco]

Almost every one of these was electric scooters, not bicycles.

[@big1boston]

Shittywok bike sales.

[@lucisimpson4802]

Most likely the 'smoke' is off-gassing and if you see it you need to get away and hope it dissipates. These fires are getting water just runs toxins into the ground water. You need a mitigation for fires to stop the contamination. These batteries are terrible especially anything more than enough to power laptops. Quality is very important.

[@RydarkVoyager]

New Rule: don't park your EV bike in your apartment.

[@Clawthorne]

Well as they explained, this doesn't solve the problem. This just means you pack a bunch of highly flammable vehicles in a very confined space, so that when one goes up in flames, all of them do. And then you have tens of people whose only means of transport is completely destroyed, and they're just told "go ask the owner of the one that caught fire first to pay for a new one". And there's no way that single person/family is gonna be able to pay for 50+ new EV bikes. So you're completely SOL.

[@Hawkertempest1]

And your EV motor vehicle

[@philbamford6957]

I hope the bus companies that are using Chinese electric buses have very good public liability insurance.

[@charleswomack2166]

I used to own an electric bicycle that was made in China. I got rid of it after a couple of years 5:13 because I figure that I would live longer that way.... Because of the exercise I would get from pedaling!

[@jacksmith-mu3ee]

Found u bot

[@Hey1234Hey]

Are people in China parking their electric bikes in their high rise building inside thier apartments? Is that common?

[@navret1707]

I was using a battery powered drill just drilling a hole in a not really hard piece of wood. Given no warning the battery exploded and hit my knee. This battery was made in China. Never again. I got lucky this time. I’m not going to press my luck.

[@eiooops]

It is the year of a fiery dragon.

[@afam58]

EV will never replace traditional engines..

[@Hawkertempest1]

Maybe one day, but battery technology for motor vehicles is not there yet. They need to be the size of a conventional car battery and have a range of at least 1000 kms and fully recharge in less than 5 minutes. At the moment pure EV's are impractical and there excessive weight compared to ICE vehicles results in more damage to the roads, excessive brake pad wear, resulting in pollution of the environment, and excessive and accelerated tyre wear. Providing mor pollution and environmental damage.

[@marcelandrey9579]

wow..the goverments punish buyer than producer that produce prototype to sell..it should be goverments makes sure and bring safety standart for batteries used on ev

[@Leonardo555ZZZ]

The transition to EV's and EB's is just so good for the environment.

[@silverbird425]

Batteries technology and placement in the vehicle is no good. Lack of parking and cost of electric recharge means they bring "bikes" upstairs. Looks like they need battery safety regulations....but there any reliable battery brands in China?

[@hermes667]

I am actually wondering why the chinese do not focus on public transport in dense cities like these.

[@freshnorthwest6756]

Its the batteries and its outright foolish to think otherwise

[@cp4512]

‘Made in China’ are watchwords for safety and high quality……..NOT! 😂😂😂

[@newhailman]

Sadly this loss of life is due to Chinese insatiable greed

[@willyberger4937]

Not alone in china greed is evrywhere

[@newhailman]

@@willyberger4937 China takes it to a whole nother level

[@zoltanrudolf]

We need a worldwide ban on lithium ion batteries NOW!

[@Clawthorne]

Lol. Say byebye to your phone, laptop and tablet then.

[@hermes667]

Stupid idea. Batteries are safe in general. This looks more like a China only problem.

[@ralzvy]

so every single thing with a lithium battery will be banned? then u wont be able to text on ur phone

[@mancave7879]

Most outdoors fires were seen without charging !

[@marcjenkins1520]

Everything made in China is substandard not just electric bikes.

[@hemangshah4521]

Be cautious if we buy ev 2 wheeler or 4 wheeler if battery used is imported from china

[@non-human3072]

My cordless drill has been dropped from a two-story structure, gotten wet, boiled and definitely overcharged. It has done this repeatedly without catching fire. What in the hell are you guys doing? Oh and its still working today....

[@non-human3072]

Before anyone asks yes it's a 7 yo battery and the same fun with the 1 yo battery, still working fine

[@user-co4nz5fg5z]

You seem to be oblivious to the concept of statistics. 🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂

[@gp8126]

Look at the ZERO emissions coming from those vehicles..

[@bounceday]

I would think recycling old batteries would be cheaper than building new batteries. All that lithium just sitting in fields.

[@dw620]

14:20 Wow, I didn't realise EVs were part of the PRC's space program. 😲 Good try, but they're going to need an upgraded version to get to the moon! 🌖

[@maapaa2010]

I've never seen a battery product in a western country spontaneous combust. I had an electric scooter i bought in Korea. Man i ragged that thing everywhere, in the rain doing jumps, i even crashed once.. no problems with the battery. The issue with China's is bad quality and cutting corners.. as everything seems to be there thesedays. I even saw one of their new tanks broke a track wheel on military exercises with Russia in 2018.. there steel is made of tofu.. shows their domestic technological capability.. when they aren't able to reverse engineer or steal western tech...

[@TCBOT]

see tesla fires lol it can happen its rare but dont charge your devices when sleeping in ur bedroom best charge ebike battery in a steel box or fireproof bad

[@Kisai_Yuki]

They happen, but they are usually consequences of accidents, not spontaneous combustion events. As of now there are 232 recorded Tesla fire events since 2013, and half of them mention a collision. So that's about 2 fires per month, globally.

[@TCBOT]

@@Kisai_Yuki no when on charge is most common there is a website about the tesla fires and power wall fires

[@cawsticky1322]

It should be noted as a matter of urgency that the 'smoke' is actually FLAMMABLE and TOXIC GAS, do not try to tackle one of these fires, just raise the alarm and get away quickly

[@JaapVanderHorst]

The owner should not be the one responsible but the electric bike maker.

[@bob456fk6]

On Ebay I've noticed a large variation in the popular 18650 batteries that are used in everything from flashlights to electric cars. The batteries from Japan and South Korea are a lot more expensive than Chinese batteries but they are worth the price. Even when they don't catch fire, the Chinese batteries can be very disappointing with regard to performance.

[@alicedai98]

I saw news about they allow only 15 EV on each ferry run so the holiday travelers are stranded in China, I do not know why 15, after watching this, I do not want to be on ferry even there is only one these EV on it. I did heard there are incidents of freight caught fire during EV shipping on sea.

[@higreentj]

Fitting batteries that are not designed for the e-bike or scooter seems to be the problem.

[@andrewchristiansen8311]

A concrete wall with a cavity in the center for filling with sand can prevent spreading of fires with e-bike parking. This should be required in China as they have plenty of sand. Each bicycle parking spot should be on 0.5 meters of sand. That way if the concrete wall melts sand dumps on the bike making it unable to burn. When making a battery pack I keep a bucket of sand as snuffing out oxygen is the only way. Sand filled ceilings would work too.

[@liangzx]

This is why you dont buy cheap stuffs, if you do want to buy cheap stuffs then do your research first before buy. Dont be people who buy first then regret later, unless youre confident you will win if you sue the company.

[@mjouwbuis]

I saw a NIU scooter on fire in one of the clips. In Europe, they're sold with Panasonic batteries and I've never seen one catch fire (I was employed as a battery swapper and small repairs person by a scooter rental company for a while). I bet, in China they're sold with Unit Pack Power batteries or some similar crap.

[@Paccekabuddha]

There are other brands using the same platform as niu. That white ngt i believe .

[@user-fs2qx6xd5s]

The big thing, don't buy any battery powered stuff from China. As far as bicycles and automobiles.

[@unclezeppy]

I recently visited a EV battery repair shop and the repair guy told me there are over 20 years old electric bikes on the road, not with the original batteries though. Usually the batteries wear out and are replaced because they have limited recharging cycle, but sometimes in the end one cell can short out and cause a fire. Since all the bikes are covered with plastic it’s common that the whole parking area burns down. The battery cell manufacturing is a mature but each cell ages differently so among the billions of cells there are always some that short out.

[@frankkauhi3759]

CHINAS TOFU BATTERIES IS THE PROBLEM EVERY SINGLE TIME !!!

[@MeiinUK]

Oh my GOD..... This is insane !!.....

[@nunstersplace]

Fire is one thing, but what are they going to do with all those batteries once they go bad? Imagine tire piles but instead those tire piles are piles of lithium batteries

[@jerryrichardson2799]

When you see something like this on KZbin, you can multiply the numbers in the by 10 to get a real idea of the problem.