2105 The Thunderstorm Generator - Malcolm Bendall's Marvelous Magical Machine

[@AlchemicalScience]

Hey Rob! I'm a long time member and subscriber with my personal account. First of all, I have huge respect for you as a scientist and inventor. You inspired me to take a course in standard electrical engineering and in part to start my KZbin channel. I also have relied on your skeptical open mind as a gate keeper for ideas in this field many times. But you've got a number of things either incorrect or just out of context in the video. I'm going to try and do a respectful response video in a few weeks based on the historical evidence in plasma physics for what is going on and the current trials from independents. I'll also explain my understanding of the differences with the GEET. There are similarities but they are showing different results and have some key differences. If I can swing it, I'll encourage Malcolm to send you a prototype to review yourself in the near future. The first 25 preproduction experimental units are going out to research teams ATM but I expect there will be more soon. Cheers!

[@MrJoeaudio]

Thank you

[@xLenny22x]

Now this would be interesting to get the machine in front of Robert! Nice way to collaborate!

[@ESS284]

You've shown your hand as not independent by saying "If I can swing it, I'll encourage Malcolm to send you a prototype to review yourself in the near future".

[@pauloneill9880]

​@@ESS284what? Shown your hand? It's an open to all collaborative to develop the technology for all to benefit. They talk together and so he could ask malcom.

[@ESS284]

@@pauloneill9880 if you are on personal talking terms with the cult leader you cant be trusted, any presentation you make or argument you put forward is clearly not neutral, as you are under his spell. The guy above doesn't even bother alluding to *what* might be wrong in this video.

[@bobkelly2447]

I made a geek generator for my B&S 3.5hp motor.... it ran on 50/50 water and gasoline after being started on 100% gasoline and warmed up..... the geek generator works, I ran it on water and oil with gasoline mixed in for good measure ( the gas makes it easier to start) I am not really sure that the device splits the water molecules or not or just uses the water as steam in the cylinder.... i suspect the latter.... but it did run on a 50/50 mixture of gas and water.... where it normally would not it took the exhaust heated cylinder to work... it was a extremely interesting experiment but I never did anything with the set up as it took alot of fiddling to get it to run initially. I also tried a water injection system in my Ford Pinto.... it went through about 1 gallon of water per tank full of gas..... it made the engine run better and the car felt more responsive. I ran it for about 6~8 months till the big mason jar froze and broke the jar.... then I took it off. i did not notice any gas milage improvement at all, in fact I think it went down a small amount but when I took the head off everything inside looked like it had been sandblasted clean no carbon anywhere even the pistons were shiny ! ..... so it is a great thing to do before a overhaul !

[@PrivatelyHanging]

My uncle made one in school during the early 80's, it was so efficient the motor would freeze up and stop working. He says random people will still ask him about it 40 years later, it's still laying around his shop to this day.

[@SaltGrains_Fready]

You should have used a metal gallon can instead of a glass jar. AND added anti freeze in the winter. That will burn like any other liquid according to Pantone.

[@RickStewart1776]

What is the geek generator?

[@exponentialnegative1]

@@PrivatelyHanging I can't tell if you're joking. It sounds like you're saying "it worked so well it didnt"

[@exponentialnegative1]

Steam cleaned :D

[@TheDavidPoole]

Why don't you build one and test it? I would have thought that would be right up your alley. It's all open source apparently.

[@DudewheresmyKar98]

He doesn’t need to! Malcom Bendall already did it and proved to the world it works…. 😂 right… ?

[@Aedonius]

@@DudewheresmyKar98 there have been countless prototypes built. The Independent science group MFMP has verified that it works as stated. Scoff at it at your own peril. People need to stop thinking these content creators are any more than just content creators.

[@cjdelphi]

​@Atadistance70over unity unless it's fusion, is a no go

[@michaeldgrim]

@@DudewheresmyKar98 yes, he did.

[@bnalive5077]

It is being done. Randall Carlson covers this plenty

[@sell2sal]

I built one. Works great. Application is not efficiency. Best use is capability to use any hydrocarbon based fuel, regardless of refinement, such as crude oil or waste engine oil from your last oil change, mixed with water in order to run a simple internal combustion engine… like a generator. Also, reduces emissions and extends life of engine since it runs cooler. I tested it. Works as described.

[@davestorm6718]

The main difference between the GEET is that the GEET processes the fuel and takes in the exhaust gases. The Thunderstorm generator does nothing to the fuel, only processes the air, no exhaust gasses are mixed in. Whether either produces plasmoids at such low pressure and under the stated conditions is really the question. Interestingly, if ultrasonic frequencies are present, then you can create plasmoids (put Al foil in an ultrasonic bath, run it for 60 seconds, and look at the foil under a microscope, and you will see effects on the foil, that quite frankly, are very odd. The foil is subjected to extreme cavitation and, some experimenters are looking at the foil under SEM only to find elements that were not present in the foil nor the water.

[@fasted8468]

All that needs to happen for dismissal is for the skeptics to prove it is producing co2 and not nitrogen and oxygen like they claim. Seems like an easy test

[@maximosh]

Al foil degrades in water due to it reacting to it, producing Co2. The ultrasonic frequency is probably just speeding up that process like a catalyst through very rapid agitation.

[@davestorm6718]

@@maximosh Yes, it will react will dissolved O2, but observation of the reactant products should be purely Al2O3, not Carbon, Calcium, Silicon, Zn, Fe, Mg, Cl from DI water. The controls of both the water w/no Al sheet in one bath run, and the Al sheet from same run (w/o no ultrasound) doesn't indicate the contaminants in the metal itself. Vortical patterns abound and these elements only appear at the vortex points (one up and one down - always in pairs), nowhere else. High magnification indicates structures form inside the vortices seem to create lots of carbon (on outies - counter clockwise) and calcium (on innies - clockwise). Using other metal foils do similar things but the ratios are different. Perhaps the carbon is potentially from dissolved CO2, but only shows up in structures ("ejecta" from the foil itself) on the SEM - nowhere else (you should see it all over the place). The underlying patterns don't appear to line up with what you would expect an ultrasonic bath standing waves, either. I believe it's more than simple dissociation and O2+Al reaction. It's really interesting! I need to reproduce it myself and get my hands on an ICP and confirm the SEM data.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

cheers mate

[@stevecummins324]

@@maximosh unlike say steel, alu has no fatigue limit... Meaning everytime it is exposed to a stress cycle it gets a tiny bit weaker. ultrasonic waves flex parts. Often with effects due to standing waves within material. (will also bounce around inside material. In ways that are dependent on thickness/roughness of surface etc) Might be tiny reductions per cycle but it won't take long before material has experied huge number of cycles.

[@MattQrillz]

Anyone else become aware of this device from the Danny Jones Podcast with Randal Carlson?

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

in my research on this the message I got was Carlson should run away from this as he is damaging his rep - but I am quoting blogs I read

[@MattQrillz]

@ThinkingandTinkering You're not wrong there. He said himself he doesn't know much about it and needs a few months for research. I know magnitudes less than anyone about the subject, but I like to think I would research beforehand 🤔 Let's hope he focuses on his sacred geometry, through which he inspired many. Much like, unbeknownst to you, you have sparked a strong flame within me to pick up electronics again. Stayed up all night 2 weeks ago binge watching all your videos I deemed most relevant to me at this time haha. (I even joined brilliant to learn) Cheers Rob 🍻

[@buakawfan333]

​@@ThinkingandTinkeringthe whole thing stinks. I love a conspiracy or I wouldn't be sniffing around this ARC rubbish, but me has a feeling Bendall and some of his associates might be "intentionally" leading people astray, as a career, as it were.

[@JAKEWJONES]

I did.

[@richardmccann4815]

I am reminded of cold fusion. Need I say more?

[@marksmith9218]

Well Bendall may well be a crank, but here is the interesting thing. He has managed to convince a small substation in London to trial this device on a 300 kW Perkins Generator, as we speak..The claim of substantially reduced carbon emissions must be sufficiently evident to be let loose on such an expensive piece equipment, right?

[@malfuller3367]

I'm glad somebody is pointing this out. If this is the Geet it's likely the largest application of it.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

yep

[@pauloneill9880]

True and the TSG has been making the exhaust completely harmless. Magic is real.

[@marksmith9218]

@@pauloneill9880 Hopefully, but my gut instinct is it will be brushed under the carpet somehow. There are two possibilities as to why we wont see it go mainstream anytime soon, 1)it is and existential threat to centralised energy production or 2) it doesn't work..The only way to out such technology, should it exist, is to share and replicate with an easy to follow construction method, including precise dimensions and parts list on a channel such as this..

[@King_Flippy_Nips]

The Indian navy is also now testing it.

[@ShiftyGearz]

Ohhhh i get it. Guy builds/does something that could positively change our lives,n he ends up prosecuted & branded crazy 🤯 Reminds you of anything or snuone today 🤔

[@akulkis]

Take a thermodynamics class. It will teach you to spot many frauds such as this device.

[@onestoptechnologies7305]

@@akulkis I'm not really sure the Laws of Thermodynamics debunk this...

[@sirmagnus99]

Year 1900, people use their brains when science-ing. Today, my never worked in their life professor gave me a book with all the answers.

[@michaelwitmer7536]

@@akulkis Laws are Laws until they are not. Not the first time. And won't be the last.

[@eabutler6861]

no one is saying that the technology is fake. but is it 1. reliable 2. efficient 3. safe 4. scalable? a good idea is a good idea. oil companies don't give a damn about this, every single thing in our lives is dependent on oil. if it works then it will become a thing. since it hasn't maybe it needs more work. there are hundreds of countries that would use the tech if it worked, but obviously it doesn't at scale. yet!

[@Edward-l5c]

Did you build one to see if it would work? If not, why not ? Seems to me, you know very little about either Malcolm Bendall or the Thunderstorm Generator. I believe you have done yourself a disservice in this review.

[@chemistryscuriosities]

Agreed! This tech is based on ancient technology written in every ancient construction site all over the planet.

[@cjprestidge1773]

A peer who knows Malcolm claimed 10 months ago he would get a prototype sent to Robert to see it in action and was confident Robert would be impressed. Sadly in about 8 weeks time it will have been an entire year since that promise. It's an open source design so they would be cropping up everywhere with people benefiting from the brilliant performance... so why is it instead just becoming like urban legend and stories of conspiracy and cover-ups. The patent has not been destroyed... so I guess any day now?

[@coreyleavell6921]

My understanding is that Malcom was smeared by Shell oil over a prospecting dispute. Also, the darn thing is transmuting elements, and that has been tested and proven.

[@OulChap]

It baffles me how this channel has went out of its way to make so many interesting little things that in some cases have potential and in others not so much. Yet when it comes to a device that seems to have heavy backing and has been tested and proven to work by actual scientists and engineers that this man discredits it outright without attempting it himself. I find it a bit unusual and out of character for someone who appears to care. Anyway its a much better practice (not to mention more HONEST) to first attempt something before disproving it, otherwise its just more empty words and disinformation.

[@coreyleavell6921]

@@OulChap I don't blame him for not believing it. Nobody believes me either.

[@OulChap]

@Toxic-nx6im this video was obviously created without the intent to back up what was said (empty words and disinformation). Saying he spoke with respect doesn't change the fact that the video exists, which in itself is fairly disrespectful. If this video had shown at a minimum an attempt to at least try the same or even a half assed attempt to debunk said system then the layman would be left with a thing or two to ponder. Then, and only then would it have been worth while watching. As per your previous response, I think your group needs to re-visit your definition of common sense as you are not getting that one right either. The only good point you raised in your highlighted reply was to "always question never settle", I have to admit it gave me a bit of a laugh as that's exactly what I've done regarding this video, yet you failed to even realise the same waffle you are dishing out. I suspect your comment was written as a blind reaction to my previous one without actually giving it any thought, either way my point still stands. I've been as fair with my comments as I possibly can be so you can either accept it for what it is or don't, either way I'll not lose any sleep over it.

[@sheep1ewe]

Where has this even been proved as functional from any independent and correctly done study? It had been cool if it had worked, but still there are no objective proof whatsoever i could find.

[@exponentialnegative1]

@@OulChap hahahaa, whats being disproven is whether Bendall invented anything at all! Did you know the GEET reactor induced fusion reactions? This was probably before you were born

[@DavoY2K]

For what it's worth. I recall that the Geet engine had the exhaust tube magnetized in one direction then the intake tube inside it is magnetized the other direction and finally the rod inside it is opposing the intake magnetically. He had different rods that would work better for different fuels. Like I said, for what it's worth. Great job again, Rob. Thanks for breaking it down. Cheers mate!

[@exponentialnegative1]

kudos!

[@willhibbardii2450]

In 2015 I built the Geet device. Works great as long as the load is about 70% or more. A loaded generator @ 80% power constantly is a fantastic candidate for the application. It will burn almost anything as long as the reactor rod is tuned to the fuel. Oil needs a longer reactor rod while hydrogen needs a much shorter one. The reactor rod must be trained... When I was racing, we employed a process to hydrogenate the engine blocks. It took about a month to hydrogenate an aluminum block and about 4 months to hydrogenate an Iron block. Bottom line... ionic treatment with racing has been around for centuries. Most haven't a clue as to how or why. The bottom, bottom line is creating a battery in plain sight to prime nitrogen to release its force. Been there done that got that T shirt. That and a dollar will buy a cup of coffee. There is no free energy! It takes time and preparation for comparison to produce a very short show! Not meant for the long haul. Long haul in my book is 1,000,000 miles/1,609,344 Km while the impressive short haul is 500 miles. A demonstration of 5,000 miles is a drop in the bucket however will miss the mark of the long haul. Currently I'm focused on graphene & selenium/sulfur bipolar batteries. We are on the leading edge of EV batteries that charge very quickly however the cycle times keeps diminishing. It's hard work to keep a golf cart running for years compared to keeping a diesel, petrol, propane or natural gas-powered vehicles running. I talked to my Amazon driver today who is averaging 160 stops a day. He loves his new EV delivery truck and reports that he is able to make a 12-hour run. I'll keep you posted on what he says next year.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

as i said water injection into ICE works just fine - it doesn't need anything else

[@Xolisaz83]

Have you tried a JoeCell yet, asking for a friend

[@exponentialnegative1]

Not many people understand how the GEET's rod helps to induce vortex flow, compression, heat exchange, ionization of the fuel. Not many peope will ever take the time to tune the rods to achieve the fusion reactions. Real gamma rays were produced and detected by professional university scientists!

[@exponentialnegative1]

thanks for sharing your experience :)

[@drivemind7142]

I've seen one working it works why don't you try it instead of crying over the science.

[@3nealweber3]

Exactly 👍🏻

[@exponentialnegative1]

Have you seen a GEET? y'all sound like a bunch of children, sad that their hero is actually a knock-off of somebody else

[@Boyeaton1]

Because he's controlled opposition and gets paid to keep people in hope!

[@keithdyer616]

My god! This has taken me back 35 years. I remember trying out water injection on my Kawasaki Z650. Using hypodermic needles inserted into each inlet collar. The thing sucked in nearly a pint of water in about 30 seconds. I was lucky I didn't hydro-lock a cylinder or two. Left the idea for another day and never bothered going back to it.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

that's a lot of water!

[@my_channel_44]

Flow rate is too high. Try a butterfly needle then work your way up.

[@King_Flippy_Nips]

The water never enters the engine with this device, there are no moving parts, it simply uses cold air entering one end and warm air entering the other to generate plasmoids in the water as the exhaust goes through it and the plasmoids convert the gases into oxygen

[@dustinraymond9403]

I think there are a lot of people who had an idea or a feeling there was something there, and even in fruition, it is a simple form that is counterintuitive to our current models. Deprogramming is hard lol

[@richardclary6267]

"THATS GOING TO ITCH WHEN IT DRIES!"😕

[@taboovsknowledge1603]

Did this guy completely spin the whole planet or just the part he is standing on in the first :30? Geet's device and the Thunderstorm generator are not the same thing. Hit Piece much? There should be a prize for being the humanity changer hitman video winner.

[@thelonelyman-lz8fz]

How is thunderstorm not a geet system? You have eyes and do not see.

[@exponentialnegative1]

TSG is just a GEET with Meyer's tech added on, and he forgets to bubble the exhaust through the fuel. The spheres are a nice touch, admittedly, but not enough to deserve discrediting the GEET!

[@bruceames9224]

One Can point to similarities between the two technologies, however, I’m wondering if you have actually reviewed the presentation points on the current offering. It’s not the bubbler or the tubes that are the key here. It is the sacred geometry, the highly sophisticated, geometry, and its application, through deep understanding of historical principles, scientific principles, and spiritual principles. This one works. Malcolm did his homework!

[@jprice1122]

I do admire your view as a sceptic, the analytical path must be taken. I’m sure you are aware of Victor Schaubergers work on vortex pathways through fluid mediums. I personally believe that his work has validity…. But to each his own. Cheers!

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

I do know Victor and his work mate and it fascinates me too

[@manuelcastillo1789]

That makes no sense. This is what it looks like you're saying I like it i dont understand it its to hard to investigate so im going to say somethings close to it and drop names and call it a day. Good luck don't exist

[@exponentialnegative1]

Take a look at Bendall's turbine and tell me if that isnt a ripoff of Schauberger's turbine!!

[@erinarnold9640]

Malcom has said that he built base on the research of others. And he said the dimension are critical and base on the the Golden ratio. It very interesting. Thanks

[@DudewheresmyKar98]

Has Malcolm ever lied, or said anything to mislead investors in the past? 😂

[@exponentialnegative1]

PLEASE show me where he gives credit and maybe I'll quit bashing him.

[@footballdrills3434]

Given the number of technical and scientific people who have watched the thunderstorm generator perform, and have monitored the process and it's emissions closely, I don't see how it could have been faked. It's been replicated many times over. Something is there that warrants further investigation.

[@exponentialnegative1]

Bendall makes so many claims it would take years to debunk each. The only claim so far that is proven is that he achieved lower emissions and in some cases increased the efficiency of fuel combustion, which GEET did years ago

[@wargreymon2024]

This is beyond what I am looking for, this channel is gold!

[@nickmerix2900]

You are a very capable tinker so why not build one and test it?

[@airvidcinematic1363]

They are. and you can...

[@arlenesmith2455]

Thank you Robert! I'm so glad you've given Paul Pantone some recognition for the plasma carburetor.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

cheers

[@exponentialnegative1]

Bless you both

[@pedrojorge4684]

I was thinking it would be a video about Kelvin Thunderstorm (water dropper). Which is an extremely simple device with no moving parts that generates electricity. The models on the internet are huge and take up a lot of space, but in reality the Kelvin Thunderstorm can be miniaturized because it seems that the amount of energy generated is not linked to the size of the device but rather the amount of water that passes through it. Miniaturizing them and connecting them in series would be a fascinating video/experiment! (note, if you are going to try this, do it with extreme caution, the amount of energy generated by this device can easily be lethal)

[@MattQrillz]

🤔

[@geoffkeller5337]

Very interesting.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

me too!

[@manuelcastillo1789]

Why does everyone try and promote their friends idea. Ohh I thought that this was my friends invention that kinda works exactly like that. No... No it doesn't work like this. This is plasmoid technology

[@onestoptechnologies7305]

The current model of this device does not "recycle" the exhaust gases (as the GEET does). This current model of this device actually transfers exhaust heat INTO the intake (preheating not cooling).

[@exponentialnegative1]

YES, a GEET recycles exhaust unlike TSG YES, he did make the mistake of claiming cooling!

[@stevensrlyoutube]

Hi rob I did build the geet generator a few years ago and it worked very well and yes there seemed fo be a huge reduction in toxic fumes.The thunderstorm generator principal is very similar and the geet is not the same as water injection .Why not build one on your show .See what happens when you add browns gas and organic hydrocarbon gas with a pinch of ultrasonic water vapor.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

still got it?

[@stevensrlyoutube]

No I sold it,if you would like to see it i can build another one .@@ThinkingandTinkering

[@stevecummins324]

I have an idea how browns gas could maybe improve performance... In a real petrol engine that's working OK, combustion is a deflagration. That the flame spreads out from spark plug at subsonic speeds. Because such combustion isn't instant, it's less thermodynamically ideal than the *theoretical* otto cycle. Anything that moves combustion towards instant improves the engine's power Plural spark plugs are one way that has been used by couple of car manufacturers.. If flames have half the distance to burn, combustion takes half the time etc. Adding gases that burn with a very quick inital flash, that then ignites main fuel of much higher energy might be annother approach. There is a potential problem with speeding up combustion in an engine. If the combustion goes supersonic. Engine is said to be experiencing detonation. And such tends to destroy engines within a very short time.

[@exponentialnegative1]

@@stevecummins324 Aaron Murakami's plasma ignition does this well! works great with GEET or HHO too

[@pmvcallan]

The whole apparent transmuting elements thing was actually a huge eyebrow raiser for myself. I had several livestreams from several semi related people pop up in my feed, as well as people directly involved. Made mention that it looked like a fancy heat exchanger, and actually raised the whole transmuting stuff as a concern which funny enough was never addressed. "So uh, where is the carbon going buddies?"

[@kelvinnixon9502]

Lol,the carbon ass you ask the buddies ,is being systematicly seperated and auctioned of into new atomic elements to the highest bidder buddy!, and the quarks mewons and newons from sed processes are instigating furthete frequency atomic de and reconstruction of thete own knumbnutsss!! Sorry not sorry!

[@thekaxmax]

And sulphur and other things. Crude oil has a lot of stuff in it that doesn't burn. And the advertisement assumes co2 isn't a pollutant....

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

well if you believe it mate - you believe it - not an issue for me

[@pmvcallan]

dont really believe it (probably should have said cocked a brow), I'm really skeptical of a lot of their claims @@ThinkingandTinkering Particularly their claim about magically making half the stuff going into the engine disappear into thin air.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

yeah you should lol - i joke mate - i am with you it's the magical thinking of transmutation and alchemical maths that leaves me cold

[@SentientObservation]

Somebody out there needs to hear this and expand upon it. I drew a little cartoon doodle, but then soon figured out I couldn’t share a photo of any sort in my comment here so let me just lay it out straight and keep it short. Quartz crystal. Bottom of the ocean. High altitude weather balloon. Connect the two. Connect the rest of the dots and you might have just won some kind of Participation trophy. My name is Alexander Thomas Cotter of 417 Missouri, and I approve this message.

[@kristianmorris9738]

Doesn't matter what the cat looks like. As long as it catches the rat. All the prognosticators will be lining up to add their considered opinions about this or that, but unless they are able prove, by demonstration, that the generator doesn't do what it's supposed to do, they are wasting their time.

[@CherylHillier]

If the claims are true then the consequences are enormous . So I think you should make one,test it and see for your self. It’ll be fun and imagine if you get positive results

[@Primaate]

Perhaps when the test data is viewed, with independent confirmation, you might reconsider your stance. Results speak for themselves i find.

[@OldManSparkplug]

You started off by giving a very kind summary of how the device is supposed to work and then continued by kindly explaining why it's simply impossible for the device to do what it says on the tin. I really appreciate the way you make science accessible. Thank you.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

cheers mate

[@pauloneill9880]

Thing is, is does work. See strike foundation or @quantumheat Bob Greeneyer.

[@wills2864]

I would like to know that just because you can explain why it won't work in your imagination. You can use very basic measurement tools to see if it does work and proof in the pudding not in skepticism or optimism.

[@flyingsodwai1382]

@@wills2864 Well theres no pudding is there...

[@wills2864]

@flyingsodwai1382 depends where you look!

[@maureencallahan1604]

I have watched your podcasts for some time and I had believed that you were fair and diligent in your analysis but this review was neither. I hope you'll go back and take a thorough look at this thing which is apparently real and should be extremely fascinating to you of all people.

[@timothyblazer1749]

The thing is, Mr. Smith...he does get vortex seperation ( significant seperation) and luminescence in the bubbler. The exhaust has been measured by government emissions experts. The fuel consumption has been monitored. It works. HOW it works is a different discussion. But...there is near zero CO2 and nearly 20% O2 in the exhaust.

[@exponentialnegative1]

Separation of what from what?? What goes in a tube comes out the other end and is never separated. What goes in the other tube never touches or mixes with the first tube. Both tubes have one entrance and one exit, so how does something separate if it has nowhere else to go?

[@TerranVisitor]

Enjoy your works Robert. In this video 12:28 you say ("does that all work") ... "that's actually a question of what you believe in". Hmmmm, really?! Perhaps if we all got together in Quantum Observer Effect, then maybe. Otherwise, I would say not. What I would say is, if it happens, it works - regardless of the (incomplete) math and physics of ones favor. There are many seemingly valid transmutation 'scenarios'. Also, Stan Meyer used UV in his 'final' product - don't recall exactly what he claimed the UV did in his special injectors (regarding the claim here of ionization) - but it played a role there also.

[@Xolisaz83]

Rob is a good guy and love his videos. But he is operating from inside the fish tank of the matrix. The only way to get out of the fish tank is to build a esoteric device and see the results for yourself

[@DudewheresmyKar98]

… 😂 Malcolm is a career con artist ?

[@alexcooper987]

You just forgot to explain the 21% oxygen coming out of the final exhaust on the latest thunderstorm generator. Oh and the pipes do get cold and hot, with as much as 400f temperature difference on both ends. Infact the internal stainless pipe gets so hot that it becomes ferromagnetic.

[@DudewheresmyKar98]

21% is surprisingly close to ambient air concentration.. don’t you think 😂? Almost as if.. he might be measuring… ambient air? Did you watch his recent road show videos where he failed… again.. to make it work in public? Such a bloody nuisance after all these years that his amazing inventions keep getting stuck by misfortune when they have the opportunity to be verified.

[@TheBelrick]

@@DudewheresmyKar98 hundreds of people have publicly gotten it working? Explain that

[@onestoptechnologies7305]

"internal stainless pipe" do you mean the "intake" pipe? That would make sense with this heater exchanger, as the exhaust gases from the engine are roughly 800F. I hope more visible testing is completed.

[@exponentialnegative1]

Heat reduces ferromagnetism

[@bruceames9224]

This is open source. Don’t go talking about money, motivating Malcolm. He made it open source. You are pissing me off. Are you really so quick to bash on this technology given the possibilities if it actually works. Think about it. If it actually works, we will be living in a new world. Do you really wanna act like a fact checker and squelch this before it gets a chance to anchor. Do you really want to cast aspersions about financial aspirations of the creator when he’s made it open source. Your skepticism feels like it’s born of intellectual rigidity and general ignorance.

[@richardmccann4815]

@bruceames9224 Don't worry about saving the world with this contraption. Radioactivity from the huge releases from Fukushima and a lesser extent chernobyl, and the million tons dumped into the oceans during bomb development, cannot be denied. Humanity has cut its own throat, and the millions of species trapped here in our thin biosphere are dying rapidly from our insane playing with technologies that we cannot control, let alone understand. Radioactive substances cannot be made stable, and the laws of physics cannot be denied. It looks like electricity supplied to the water is causing the hydrolysis and the hydrogen is being recombined with oxygen somehow torn away from the carbon dioxide. Given that we cannot pick up atoms of plutonium that were blasted out of the Fukushima reactors and scattered world wide, we will never be able to stop the slow destruction of our circle of life. The plankton are gone missing from the pacific, killed by the fallout! This is why CO2 levels are rising, there is no mechanism for the co2 to be broken down! And the radioactive materials are still splitting atoms, releasing huge energies as waste heat, for the next million years or more! So thinking that this silly gismo can save us is beyond sane. The amount of radioactive decay heat is enough just in the fuel pools alone to cook the planet, and the radioactivity only increases and spreads, causing normal matter to decay and become radioactive, the reason they spoke of it as the ATOMIC PLAGUE in the 1950's, when it was discovered! So we have cooked our own goose, and the artificial intelligence can see no farther than we can! And certainly if we can't explain it, than it does not exist.

[@HansGruber006]

If it's open source and works then why haven't every car company picked up the so called technology

[@highstepper1764]

@@HansGruber006 Thats a question for the oil companies there antoneknee !!!

[@SteveWright-oy8ky]

@@HansGruber006 Because the largest Oil Company controls the majority of the stock holdings as well as appoints only their own people to be in charge of those auto companies so as to maintain the status quo of all locomotion will be fueled by the OIL INDUSTRY and NO outside sources will be allowed to interfere with that MONOPOLY ! That is how John D. Rockefeller became the KING of OIL and it's been that way ever since!

[@charleswalker2484]

@@HansGruber006 thats so naive my friend. Why are there wars? why did wall st get a bail out? do you think we live on planet sunshine and roses? be for real.

[@anomalous_phenomena_251]

This is the same guy who bashes john hutchinson without even watching his full videos...acting like he uses a string in all his videos but John only used it in one experiment which John documents in the video that he is using the string attached to the device before he conducts the experiment. Hutchinson was def on to something as many scientist have concluded and this science of coherent matter and hutchinson effect technology is real.

[@andyvonbourske6405]

they've put emissions measuring device on a industrial generator with this device lately and they're getting results that are unexplainable and i think the plasma explanation is more of a best guess of what's happening .once hot the exhaust emissions measurements shows oxygen goes up to 15-20% and co2 goes down to around 4 % or lower and others that i can't remember . importantly these experiments are repeatable and the numbers don't lie. i don't blame you if you're skeptical i was too .

[@northernfool7453]

Have you looked into the temperature and magnetic anomalies? There is a large setup operating on a natural gas powerplant in GB.

[@jessepaynter3752]

Also as an exotic reptile breeder I can also say he's wrong about the uv bulb, it doesn't produce any heat. It increases bone and scale density and development

[@chrisprysok7634]

It has nothing to do with heat. Simply ask chat gpt if you can ionize air with a uv light. Yes or no?

[@jessepaynter3752]

@chrisprysok7634 that isn't how that works 🙄. If something hasn't been discovered officially you won't find it

[@jessepaynter3752]

@chrisprysok7634 also be said it has to do with heat not me

[@jessepaynter3752]

@chrisprysok7634 I did look it up, natural light does ionize air so id say that since they mimic natural light it makes sense

[@russelllyne5298]

So what really needs to be tested is it better than water injection. Test the engine without any add-ons as a control then add the water injection and then add the plasmid generator. To really find out if the gains are from the water injection or Malcolm's generator.

[@BalticHomesteaders]

So glad I wasn't the only one to write and you made this video, many thanks.

[@gazerbeam73]

Dear Robert, I've been following you for a long time and at one point I was excited to for the opportunity to be involved in starting a battery factory under your proposed program. Unfortunately, you sold your battery technology to a global company, I think accusing Malcolm of money being his only motivation before facts is not really fair or scientific.

[@marlonjoslin6730]

This video is a shame.

[@emel60]

Hi Robert! Could you please do a video on hydrogen production by using a regular microwave, crucible filled with flux and plastic pellets (mostly HDPE). Apparently a gram of HDPE yields near 1L of nearly pure hydrogen and remnant hydrocarbons. The solid residue is multi-walled carbon nanotube powder! I have an original link to an article and research somewhere... if you're interested!

[@nestorovski1993]

Link the article. Cheers

[@marcwilson1052]

Link?

[@MediumPointBallPoint]

This might actually work. Ethylene is hydrogen attached to carbon, and if, as you say, you could separate the carbon and hydrogen you might have the basis for a fuel. In one Mr Robert's videos he talks about grabbing CO2 and turning it into ethylene as a fuel, so there you go, full circle.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

can you post the article title and DOI a link won't work

[@emel60]

@@ThinkingandTinkering Absolutely! It would be my pleasure. Give me a moment, please.

[@DouglasASean]

Once again I am blown away by your brilliance, well done

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

wow - thank you mate

[@sebastiansosnowski3859]

Samples from the big thunderstorm generator are being now looked at under an scm, structures they're finding do look odd, Sulfur crystals originating from a one point with a perfectly spherical hollow balls of iron at their termination point, they really might be onto something. I really recommend watching some scm sessions done on these samples by Bob Greener. Structures they're finding definitely don't seem like they're just a result of contaminated fuel

[@bookabooka]

do you have al ink?

[@chrisprysok7634]

That sphere ran on coal for 8 years there was no other fuel

[@denisemcrae3044]

Look up Bob Greenyer at the Martin Fleischman Memorial Project from a few days ago. He has proved Malcolm's thunder storm generator works. This is the dawn of a new era of knowledge for humanity

[@calcoin4199]

I have built a geet this summer and it indeeed is something worth experimenting with i had it running on mostly water or motor oil or a few other things aswell needs some tuning with valves and rod sizes and such to run different fuels . Why not give it a go it is simple enough to put together and you seem plenty capable im not sure about malcoms edition but there seems to be similarities it’s possible he improved pauls device which seems to have quite a bit of people who have had sucsess aswell😊

[@Xolisaz83]

I also built a few geets and was pleasantly surprised!

[@calcoin4199]

@@Xolisaz83 yes see there is something to it not just people making up things Robert should give it a go with the proper tools you could make it bettet than me but i saw effects with hardware store parts

[@brett8090]

I appreciate you breaking this down. It crossed my feed this morning and my head cold was leaving me blank.

[@daltdaherm]

A video I was excited to see you had posted! If anyone is interested in learning a lot more about this Alchemical Science and The Martin Fleischman Memorial Project explain it really well.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

cool

[@burner8126]

I tried, but I couldn't watch it all. Check it out. Interesting...@@ThinkingandTinkering

[@nicholasnapier2684]

I think you did an excellent job of explaining this just in the first few minutes of your video I think it is excellent that you took other ideas and proposed them before you got to this part in your video describing how it works. It’s excellent that you do that because your backing the process up.

[@pedjamilosavljevic6235]

I did watch some of videos about this particular contraption. It is an open source research (there is a community of researchers around the "working principle" of it) , but , it has patent(s) pending , for some reason. However , there is a portion of information on that thing , that Rob skipped , which are : materials that suppose to give the proper (or the best?) results (some titanium , or tungsten , for the spheres and pipes , and maybe other aero-space alloys) and talk about harmonic resonance (in which , shapes and dimensions are crucial). First part (materials) put me off that thing, because of the price and availability and second thing even more , because whatever material , or shape is used , whenever heat and vibration is introduced into the system - it would mess up harmonics , which (to me) means - it'll only work (if it works)at specific laboratory conditions , meaning , any variable could change the result. Also , I didn't understood , how UV light ionizes air and why it isn't made in a way that everybody knows , which is a spark gap and high voltage . It is , for me , a bit of "mystic" science , though , I don't know much about harmonics .

[@Voidy123]

mmm...I've seen spark gaps or neons on a Joule Ringer circuit, also got to do with harmonics...interesting.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

I didn't skip it mate - all the stuff around celestial mathematics, special alloys and harmonics are a meaningless smoke screen to me and i said that - i was polite about it - but i said it. However if you want to believe that is important - go for it - for me it is inconsequential

[@pedjamilosavljevic6235]

@@ThinkingandTinkering Sorry , maybe I've missed that part (or didn't quite got it). I've only wrote that comment (last sentence) to say , that all of it is "out there" for me (like claimed effects of Rodin coil , or Churnikov's Gravilet...).

[@friendlyone2706]

One reason for patents is to keep it open source. Why? If someone else patents it, the original inventor can lose all credit and ability to share. It is not easy for an ordinary person to defend ownership of his own design. There was even a movie about the inventor of the variable speed windshield wiper system facing that problem.

[@pedjamilosavljevic6235]

@@friendlyone2706 That depends on a particular country (market) and it's legal system. For an example , Chinese invented a lot of things and copied much more and what are the consequences ? If someone invents something and decide to go into production of it (attract investors) - by all means , that should be patented (if inventor lives in a place where using the patent , or intellectual property. without permission , or contract can be legally pursued). Otherwise , I don't see a point (besides boosting someones ego).

[@AbombsinAdam]

I've never learned so much so quickly. SUBSCRIBED

[@taboovsknowledge1603]

If this thunderstorm generator is for real, the benefits will be off the chart. Instead of making one for yourself to see if it works, and the how to videos are out there, this guy makes a video because 10 people asked him to? Then he goes' straight into bagging on something completely not the thunderstorm generator? He's My Scientist guy! Not!

[@exponentialnegative1]

Do you even know what a GEET is? Those of us who have spent years, some decades studying HHO, are VERY QUICK to notice all the ideals Bendall borrowed without giving credit. GEET is not HHO but has been shown to be compatible. Bendall did something that has been done before.

[@MRSBroadcastingAB]

A U.S. utility patent, is generally granted for 20 years from the date the patent application is filed; however, periodic fees are required to maintain the enforceability of the patent. Patents can't be renewed once they've lived out their 20 years. A patent becomes public domain (free for use by the public) upon its expiration, which is defined as 20 years from the patent's earliest non-provisional filing date. MPEP §201.04. The 20-year patent term applies to utility and plant patents.

[@plinnytheother6107]

So did you build one yet to give it its rest or are you still talkin

[@maawolff8888]

HaaaaaaahAahaah

[@georgeblack589]

Thanks for the video, I always enjoy your stuff.

[@buakawfan333]

In some ways I feel sorry for Randall, but on the other hand, I guess it might be a huge wake up call. Gonna be some really interesting podcasts coming out in 2024 once Bendall and his team do a runner.

[@chrisprysok7634]

Explain how we observed matter going out of the sphere and then back in? Mufflers produce spark. It doesn't Go thru metal. Dying for explanation.

[@bruceames9224]

It’s not Randall is due for the wake up call!

[@King_Flippy_Nips]

He made all the info public domain and free to use and it has been proven to work, several people have already made their own and attached to cars and they work, the indian navy is starting to test them, i think you are in for a wakeup call.

[@denisemcrae3044]

I think you may have to eat your words soon. Big things happening with this that cannot be discussed publicly just yet

[@vanjam412]

​@@denisemcrae3044I'm ready to eat mine what about you? Next time you work on a car take a peek at the exhaust manifold (the pipes coming off the back of the engine leading to the muffler) than look at the muffler it's self. You'll see the little circles they claim are caused by plasmoids (😂😂😂😂😂) as well as the "crystals" in the form of soot!

[@paulshields1883]

Engine exhaust might be around 240C, but the hottest part of the swirl guide is said to be like 767C. This is not a Ranque-Hilsch vortex tube, because there is a barrier between intake and exhaust flows, but it does scavenge entropy. How can this anomalously high temperature be explained?

[@exponentialnegative1]

Thank god somebody said it. Its a glorified heat exchanger

[@paulshields1883]

@@exponentialnegative1 nearly undetectable amount of fusion, of only like 10^16 reactions per second, would account for half of all the heat and a significant drop in fuel consumption, but even without LENR, its useful, eliminating carbon monoxide and hydrocarbons

[@exponentialnegative1]

I agree LENR can be going on but I doubt how much carbon they are transmuting. GEETs showed gamma ray production in some cases, suggesting its possible. Preheating fuel can increase its combustibility but injecting pressurized fuel into the piston chamber to push the piston isn't necessarily going to make it more efficient. You need something more like a steam engine to harness gas pressure. I think that compressing hot gasses is probably increasing their temperature and concentrating heat around those spheres in the tube.

[@paulshields1883]

@@exponentialnegative1 yeah carbon disappearance is very strange. other ideas I heard postulate that some sort of thermodynamic bypass is liberating hydrogen from the water. Can they detect xrays?

[@clint9344]

Ahh the Geet device! It was presumptioin that the rod being used in the center rod was using the earths magnetic field and vaccuum to create the ionic charges needed for the device to operate properly... I have looked into this in past but never experimented yet. Funny how inventors are bankrupted, ruined and then called crazy then later their inventions show up in Corporate designs... Keep up great work, be in peace God speed,.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

cheers mate

[@MrJim2720]

Much respect Neil. Do what is best for you and your family. Many admire your work and the value and advice you bring to this and other channels. There are other communication channels out there and when you have value - people will find your message! Especially loved your in depth details on the Great Depression Era segments (well worth an award and a valuable legacy to younger kids in the historical content and accuracy). Save the good stuff and your hard work for a medium which treats you right. Thanks for the insight you provided today and hopefully other content providers appreciate it. Cheers sir. You do great work and it is genuine!

[@bnalive5077]

Randall Carlson covers this in quite detail. These are being tested on industrial scale levels as I type this….

[@RalphEllis]

The Pratt and Witney R2800 engine I used to fly had water injection, for just this purpose. It cooled the exhaust temperature, and gave greater volumetric expansion of gasses in the cylinder. It was only used for take-off. The Rolls Royce Spey jet engine also had water injection, for the same purpose. But it was not cleap, as the de-min water they used was reasonably expensive, and the aircraft had to carry sufficient water down to remote outstations, so they could use it on the return take-off. R

[@triedzidono]

"I have my Ideas, & I'm sure you have yours" served with warm smile its your line, but its mine now, too ! Bravo RMS. watched his magicbeanstalk engine video years back. Early internet days nostalgia indeed! A pleasure to hear you debunk it, context and rationale. spot on.

[@triedzidono]

12:33

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

lol - good one mate - cheers

[@bobeden5027]

I built Paul's engine back in 2005 ish. I have a folder full of videos and pictures of my GEET builds, if you are interested?

[@DavidPaulNewtonScott]

On a different subject i was thinking about a boat propeller called an axiom. It seems counter intuitive how this works but i have sussed it and it illuminates a lot of other stuff. Anyway i think you should have a go at using the basic idea for a wind turbine.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

cheers mate

[@gruboniell4189]

HOW ABOUT YOU MAKE ONE URSELF!!! They are being mass produced in uk so u can get one and not talk about misinformation and critique

[@Reanderthal]

The Martin Fleischman Memorial Project (YT channel) is doing an ongoing analysis of the Thunderstorm Generator. The hypotheses over there are extremely fringe, but the observations are undeniable. As far a I can say, the theory is that 'fractal toroidal moments' act like a unified force, electromagnetohydrodynamically shearing and/or cohering matter hyper-locally, leading to low energy nuclear reactions aka transmutation and other anomalous energetic effects. I'm heading over to the MFMP channel now to see some live microscopy of the inner surfaces of the Thunderstorms Generator spheres. I'm expecting to see marks that look high energy when we think the system is low energy. EVO marks. I think the 'fractal toroidal moment' idea has legs.

[@chrisprysok7634]

Bob is the man.

[@pauloneill9880]

Creation of elements is hard to explain for sceptics, that why the avoid it. Conveniently.

[@friendlyone2706]

@@pauloneill9880 But if a true plasma is created, some apparent transmutation should be expected.

[@friendlyone2706]

As pointed out in the movie Oppenheimer, the experimentalists ALWAYS have the last word.

[@exponentialnegative1]

Remember that Bob was working on the GEET when somebody told him to get in touch with Bendall

[@danwyan]

Reading some of the comments on this video, saying this "technology" works and that Rob has no idea what he's talking about, reminds me of the old saying "it's easier to fool someone than to convince them they've been fooled".

[@billwilson3665]

Some people want to believe in unicorns.

[@reeflab2221]

I have been awaiting a real explanation of this- thank you!

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

hope it helped mate

[@manuelcastillo1789]

How would you like the explanation im fairly fluid in the information

[@leonardkjellberg729]

Great explanation Robert!. I do think simple electrolysis is happening in the copper generator possibly heavily coating one of the surfaces with black exhaust gas and would stop working after a while. and have to be cleaned out. The other "water bubbler" is a simple gas cleaner system causing the water to become dirty and oily.

[@kelvinnixon9502]

Finaly!, ive comented on this befor!, and like i said i have a working model honda genorator that runs on peee peee! Its works verry well !

[@Voidy123]

You should stop drinking so much that your peee peee is flammable...🤣😂🤣

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

lololol

[@kbbacon]

As a mechanic of many many years, I can tell you that we used water injection clear back to my '69 Oldsmobile. We hooked it to an off idle vacuum port on the carburetor and it helped. A major problem was carburetor icing and, of course, winter. We are talking about a 455 cubic inch (7.5l) engine which was extremely inefficient.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

water injection works

[@manuelcastillo1789]

This is plasmoid technology. Needs no moving parts

[@ryanjamesloyd6733]

Now, wait... I haven't finished the video. What this puts me in mind of is Woodgas, and recycling your exhaust to get a more complete burn of that which will burn... is there a way to do that? is that what they're Doing?

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

yeah that is part of what they are doing

[@FirefighterRetired-CFD]

Some modern gas furnaces 98 percent work kid of like it

[@stefani6380]

This subject has been spreaded on different channels and make my day happy😀. I am surprised by how many people have missed their elementary physics classes and are still believe in miracles... "vortex", "plasma", "plasmoid"😇, "atomic transmutation"😇, "cold fusion"😇, "thunderstorm generator"... a mixt of physical terms used to create the sensation of high science and to describe the functionality of this retrofitted gasoline engine E-generator - most probably the manufacturer of this generator is very happy with the sales. The main core "thunderstorm generator" is a simple heat exchanger to pre-heat the inlet air using the exhaust gases - charges and polarization on this structure in this configuration, this is a nonsense. Some ions are generated on the input by UV but, they will be neutralized and lost in the first stage. This bubble generator is a simple air filter. Most probably the pre-heating of inlet air will improve the motor performance but IT WILL NOT CREATE CLEAN AIR. To do that, some people are using water electrolysis on their setup to create hydrogen which will be injected progressively in the engine and to replace the fossil fuel and to "demonstrate" the "carbon transmutation"😇😁 - in this case the engine has become only hydrogen fuelled. I will stop here my short analysis and my advice is to read once and think twice before to believe such of things.

[@Bixten33]

100% agree, this is bs and they behave like in a cult - also they 0 knowledge about physics... it's alien math and numerology, ffs

[@marble25]

why would hotter intake air improve engine performance. looks like neither "inventors" nor debunkers have any clue how anything works

[@shamicentertainment1262]

I'm retarded so I can't prove or disprove it, only thing I will say is thatt there isn't a manufacturer, it's all open source. I do see random people occasionally building them on youtube. The people pushing it would maybe be making some money, but not much.

[@FESTV]

You mean magic like every plant does on this Earth ? That shows just how low the science is. You have it under your feet. You have microscopes, supercomputer and still dont know how to combain light and plant.

[@timcetin372]

You did a very good good job of trying to debunk it but why didn’t you mention the recorded emissions that were taken while it was running 🤔

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

that's because that's belief mate and you can't argue about belief- you can only get into pointless slanging match

[@geomatrix9997]

@@ThinkingandTinkering how are live filmed test showing live readings from certified meters a belief?

[@geomatrix9997]

This guy is very biased saying live test are a belief?

[@bladetj]

Why dont you build one and test it yourself to prove what you are saying?@@ThinkingandTinkering - Otherwise this video is lazy and obviously biased

[@friendlyone2706]

@killerwolf7676 At least one of the publicly videoed tests the person doing the testing brought his own equipment because he distrusted everyone. When his equipment matched the demonstrator's, his surprise was obvious. He ended up deep breathing the exhaust because the air smelled so fresh.

[@BeneficenceTV]

Interesting, I haven't seen Paul's machine before but there have been other who made similar claims and have turned up missing or humiliated to the point where they don't want any publicity.

[@kingcosworth2643]

With a petroleum fuel all that has been built is a carburettor comparable to one built 130 years ago.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

yep - with a few twiddely bits that do nothing

[@Marty59143]

Having personally run water injection on my own engine i can say it definitely helps with detonation at higher compression ratios. There was a small percentage more mileage but nor significant. I kind of figured when i saw this tech that turningwater to steam before it enters the engine would be beneficial as in more efficient. Like all other things I will have to build this contraption to see how it works. Great video thank you for your input.

[@herenow2895]

The various scientists who have witnessed this device working, tested and analised it, cannot figure out what is going on. How it can transmute noxious gasses into Oxygen ? This surely has to be the essence of science. To observe an unexplainable, repeatable effect and try to figure out what is going on. This is how we learn. To try to put it into old boxes is missing a huge opportunity.

[@mcs699]

You're being hoodwinked mate.

[@Optable]

Transmutation from Plasma has been researched for over 100 years. Plasmoids for around half of that. This doesn't violate any laws, it just expands on them in my opinion. Nuclear fusion is doing exactly that, by harnessing potential energy of an atom.

[@gilljones2362]

Hi Rob I think you are a fascinating presenter. Since your review of the thunderstorm generator was aired I respectfully request that you review the latest information on this on various websites as I understand your review and I would have totally agreed with this a few months ago. But I had come across other information about this and it appears to have been previously covered up in the past. No surprise there. Please look into recent conventions on alternative sources,. It will enable you to contact a uk based company working on this in conjunction with oversees. I will await your comment once you have investigated. Many Thanks. P.J

[@curbina]

Your analysis is superficial and patronizing. There are superficial similarities with the GEET but also important differences. The important part is the results: how do you explain the exhaust results that have been shown? I dare you build one and see for yourself.

[@FlakeyPM]

No! Your analysis is superficial and patronizing. The science says it's BS but you are right, science is not always correct. Stop being just a keyboard warrior and get off your arse. Build one and prove that it works. Then bring it to Rob and show him.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

I am with Flakey - you build one show it to me and then i will eat my words - i already explained the results being shown - it's water injection into an ICE and there are no important differences - o and it is superficial because there is nothing 'deep' to it

[@rickjames7391]

I appreciate your ability to rekindle my desire to learn things.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

that is awesome to hear mate - cheers

[@johnwynne-qx6br]

Nice explanation, on a different subject and hopefully not breaching your self promoting policy, I apologise in advance if I have. I have been water cooling a neodymium magnet in a experiment and noticed that there is a lot of water dropping down the sides of the container, and thought to myself i wonder if I could use that to generate electricity through the triboeletric system that you have shown in one of your videos, i am going to have a go myself and also thought that you might be interested in doing it. I am using a bedini circuit to drive the neodymium ball but a Reed switch + many other ways would work. Hopefully not upset you as i do genuinely enjoy your channel and the information that you give aswell as the get up and try it motivation.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

I am interested in it mate and i hope it goes well

[@johnwynne-qx6br]

@@ThinkingandTinkering thankyou for your reply, I have tried it with triboeletric generator a very crude version no ptfe tape and have realised that a couple of seconds gets the warter droplets to ware they need to be and it's continuing to generate without the motor. So I think a small solar warter pump and a bigger container with more cells would work well with a solar panel system for trickle charging batteries at night. Thankyou for your inspiration.

[@leesmith4659]

Would love to see you put a working geet reactor together Rob.

[@freelectron2029]

he cant. his inability to learn anything that wasnt told to him in a book wont allow it.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

lol - and where do you learn from?

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

cheers mate

[@freelectron2029]

@@ThinkingandTinkering i close my mouth, do the experiment and dont broadcast my findings without doing the actual work. like all scientists.

[@freelectron2029]

@@ThinkingandTinkering from doing the fkin experements!! like all scientists!! why do i have to explain that to you?? i certainly don't run my mouth to a bunch of people about something i have never done. and i certainly don't think i am the arbitrager of all knowledge. i don't sit on my throne declaring undiscovered phenomena as real and not real. i dont declare that all science is known while paradoxically admitting we know very little about the nature of reality. science isnt about repeating what someone told you in a class room or pressing record so you can get some views for your narcissism requirements. its about sitting in a room with no one caring or knowing about what you are doing and discovering NEW things with no purpose or goal but to discover. not for fame or notoriety. pure discovery. but of course those that cant do teach, or start crappy business that barely get by. or both in this case.

[@thomasholck]

Cool with a skeptical view. You seem like a well versed individual. Build one and debunk it once for all. It’s all open sauce it seems. Could be great content for your channel.

[@ColbyBlack]

Wait, you didn’t actually make it you just talked about it not working? Half the videos of skeptics who went out and tested it with their own equipment said that it was working and it worked in ways they did not expect it to work and it didn’t make sense but it worked. Then they were using spectrometers to check the retrofitted Honda engines, and it was blowing oxygen. Then third-party testing on these spheres, had the electron microscope finding evidence of micro ball lightning, that matched multiple peer reviewed papers.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

is that right?

[@audiowan]

After many years of experimenting; i have concluded that the smaller the size of gasoline vapor (particle size) , the leaner the engine can run, until we achieve smaller and smaller vapor size , and gasoline is a dry gas... (max. leanness ). I noticed that my huge 360 c.i. V8 ran very well with real hot air / fuel mix and a small single bbl. carburetor (meant for a much smaller engine.) in this way i could turn off the idling screw all the way vaporize

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

cheers mate

[@philjameson292]

Ive suffered from plasmoids but I've found a miracle cream that keeps them under control and allows me to sit comfortably

[@colrodrick8784]

I love the scientific analysis of the foundations of the device to determine if and why it would or would not work and why it’s unique or not. Take a Pat on the back for the knife twisting in the final few moments of the video. I won’t bother googling his background. I think I can guess.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

lol - cheers mate

[@buakawfan333]

The weirder part of this for me is this guy who is promoting the whole thing: Gary Ling from "Ballsy Thinking". He has the nickname "fixer" on his name badge in one of the videos, which I interpreted in a couple of ways...guy has an interesting resume.

[@totherarf]

Way back when I was a pup driving my mark1 escort (79?) there was a thing about water injection. You could buy a kit that basically allowed the negative pressure in the inlet manifold to draw a small amount of water from an external bottle through an atomiser into the manifold. I ummed and ahhhed about it and suddenly the kits were pulled off the market! Forward a short time Formula 1 racing had water injectors on their engines to improve performance and it was shortly made against their rules and so banned. Rumour was that one of the big oil companies had bought the patent and was sitting on it because they wanted to sell you fuel not have you save it! That was the rumour back then. What was the truth of it? ...... Honestly I don't know, but it does add a bit of interest to the story! ;o) Maybe we all need a bit of "unexplained" in our lives to keep it interesting?

[@Voidy123]

Water injection should work... more humidity gives more power, your car feels faster at sea level, cause it is..

[@totherarf]

@@Voidy123 That is why it is banned in F!!

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

we do seem to love a bit of a conspiracy lol

[@paulbriggs3072]

Water injection was used under emergency power conditions in P-47 Thunderbolt fighter aircraft in WWII (and others no doubt) but this merely cooled the cylinders when at extra high power I suspect.

[@ShadowOfUs]

Why so enthusiastically eager to shut down the idea? That is off-putting and troubling. The idea, new or not, perfect or not, is worth developing for the benefit of humanity

[@bruceames9224]

The whole presentation sounds like a fact, checker debunking. Nice job, taking an opportunity to objectively assess the situation and turning it into a witchhunt.

[@DudewheresmyKar98]

Which part wasn’t an objective assessment?😂

[@TheBelrick]

@@DudewheresmyKar98 all of it. why do you ask? he conflated water injection with a device that transmutates elements into oxygen

[@bearnaff9387]

Now I am trying to find something I remember reading about a research group at MIT developing a carburetor that partially converted incoming fuel & air to plasma. I do not know what the insertion point was for the plasma, presumably ignition. But, it apparently improved overall performance or efficiency by slightly over a third. The problem arose from the electrical load required to generate the plasma, originally it put more load on the alternator than the process produced per unit of fuel. IIRC they eventually found a better way to create the plasma, getting a 10% (?) net improvement, but at that point you're talking about adding a bunch of expensive parts to gain a little efficiency from the cheapest part of the process. Since the result of the process wasn't an improvement to performance that could push an engine beyond other technologies, I don't think it ever went anywhere after that due to being economically worthless.

[@MattQrillz]

Informative as always Robert, dumping knowledge bombs like its going out of fashion. Good stuff.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

cheers mate

[@samoasisifi]

"Does it work?" Ridicule always starts with science itself. Lets not forget a number of car companies have and are taking this invention seriously, whether handed down from the future or the past, very seriously. From "live" demonstrations to a clever open source patent, which you will understand. The open source patent is not about pulling it apart, its about sharing the invention and allowing people like yourself to build one. Plasma is easy to replicate and tune... me im looking at alternative designs. Cheers

[@anopoabednego6173]

This isn't the same process as the GEET and the fact that you insist that it is, it makes me think you don't know what you're talking about.

[@craigs.handle]

My understanding is that the vacuum of the engine is used to form the plasmoid, but the plasmoid itself works as an atomic battery, and because of the opposing vorcies, it is drawing in energy. From what has been known as the ether. Malcolm system uses very little to no water. My understanding of Malcolm exclamation in his lectures. Is that the point where the 2 vorcies meet is where the plasma is formed, resulting in completely disassociated protons and when they reform. From 6 protons in carbon, it comes back into a matter state with 2 additional protons, which makes it oxygen. I'd be interested to hear you're analysis on that portion of it. I am not claiming to be an expert on this or know it. But what Malcolm was saying made a lot of sense to me. And I watched the meters on the emissions. Go from 3 to 4% oxygen up to 20 plus. Malcolm is doing an installation right there in England I think it would be incredible if you could to hold of them and go look at it for yourself and Talk to the scientists and see what they're saying most of the comments I've heard from the scientists have been that something definitely happening but they Don't quite understand it yet. That was about a month ago, so I'm sure they're figuring some things out. But you are certainly deserving of being able to go and take a look at this thing directly. If it's a sham, you could discuss it with them on-site. My understanding is that the Tests they've done their in England have been successful. And they are looking to pump the energy they're producing in that Moth bald cold plant back into the grid. Thanks again for looking into this. This was an excellent video and I appreciate you looking into things like pantones device. Choose to use sir well played

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

I would love to go and see it

[@craigs.handle]

@@ThinkingandTinkering Turns out jordan's in Remember on your channel for a couple of years, he said he would reach out. I'd love to run all these ideas through your mind. You're experienced in all the things you understand? I've been looking at this type of stuff for 40 years and I've never been more encouraged and I am after spending many hours. Listening to what Malcolm and others had to say about this. And the fact that you came up with pantones machine. Is exactly why I'd like you to look at this

[@gruboniell4189]

This video didn’t age well

[@ChrisGageTX]

He's too smart to admit he doesn't know WTF is going on sometimes.

[@quartamile]

Why?

[@gruboniell4189]

@@quartamile because even I have made the storm generator and yes it works exactly as it says in the box

[@gruboniell4189]

@@quartamile look up Bob greenyer and the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project to show you how to do it. And other methods of making Exotic Vacuum Objects

[@gruboniell4189]

@@quartamile if you stop following scammers like this guy you too, like me, can transmute CO2 and CO into O2 as well then show your friends etc and change the entire world for the better.!

[@jaslll4396]

Better performance is not the biggest draw of this technology. The biggest feature that is important to this technology is that it burns very clean. The exhaust of this engine is less than 1% CO and CO, less than 50 ppm HC and 20% oxygen. The output is as clean as air. The Pantone engine was shown to do this back 11 years ago on KZbin (posted by Dan Eastman). The open source plans to the Pantone engine was for a 10 Hp engine. Dan Eastman's video has gotten a generator up at a high load and outputing close to 20% oxigen. You are right about the bubbler too. It is not necessary as Dan Eastman ran a engine on a micro carburator and still got it to run clean with similar readings. Do not build the Pantone 1990 engine (horizontal reactor). There is an updated design that came out in the early 2000 with a verticle reactor. The Thunderstorm Generator is probably optimized for greater flow and is probaby better for real world use on an engine. Paul Pantone's engine was only a demonstration engine which worked well enough on a small engine. Besides running clean this engine is more efficent (up to 60% better ) and prolongs the engine life (up to 3x longer).