21Q Wreaks Havoc in Station Square - NS 21Q Derailment Cleanup

[@46fd04]

There was a similar derailment in Ajax, Ontario (Canada) in Jan. 2019. C.P.R. crews had to deforest (cut down many trees) a property and bulldoze a road into the site so they could get two large cranes setup. Took 48 hours to cleanup and remove approx. 12 intermodal cars with upwards of 24 containers, and replace the track. Several of the train cars were cut up on site and sent to a metal recycler. All the train wheels were saved and loaded on flatbed tractor-trailers. It is amazing how fast these cleanup teams work.

[@steviedee71]

TFSFireman Do you know exactly where this site was ? Was it the tracks running along the side of the 401 ?

[@galexander9857]

@@steviedee71 No. CPR tracks on the north side of Taunton Rd just west of Westney Rd in Ajax

[@wthrmn654]

@@galexander9857 christ did they use giant mobile cranes or something. Could of saved many trees if they just used telescoping crane master kind of mobile cranes. Unless there's was little to no trackside space to use? Why didn't they just widen the area alongside the tracks instead, less destruction, and already railroad owned property dir the most part? Of course I know Canadas land is a pandora box of different kinds, big, peat, tundra, marshy, permafrost frozen. So that very will could be a reason to.

[@ravenbarsrepairs5594]

Time equals money. The faster they work, no matter how much labor required, the cheaper the total bill will be, including lost production from downtime.

[@BrucePerkins-mc3hp]

Their trained the vet in and clean it up and get out. No waste of time or $

[@firedyna97]

Jacob, wonderful video. What a challenging place to have this happen and the potential for much worse is significant. Thanks for posting it.

[@jacobleukhardt2323]

firedyna97 thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed the video. This was indeed one of the worse places for this to happen. They couldn’t get cranes up to the main line so they had to attach changes to the cars and yank them off her the hill onto the transit tracks below.

[@shimshonbendan8730]

Great video. What a mess. Those cars angled and those containers on it. Some amazing crane work there. Thanks for the video!

[@ChachaChapati]

Thanks for posting this; the Trib-Review took their own video of the container removal down after a day!

[@jacobleukhardt2323]

ChachaChapati you’re very welcome. I wonder why they took it down.

[@matthewcorrell2475]

Lots of satisfaction in seeing the new rail sections being delivered by truck at 11:00 lol

[@steelcityrailfan4808]

I absolutely love your channel and your intro is awesome!

[@tomp8871]

Now that's what I call a mess. Some great quality pictures JL

[@briancooper562]

Multiple lifting of spilled containers Is required to get the centre of gravity of the lift correct as the load has or will shift from that of a flat lift.

[@charlestoast4051]

but they did a lousy job of slinging the containers, didn't even come close to matching the slope of the car. To me it looked like the CofG was pretty central, and that should have been their first guess.

[@gingerbread6614]

No trash talking here. I hear no music. It’s A Train Derailment, No one is forcing you to watch it.

[@ph11p3540]

Thank goodness it was no hazardous chemical train. My city has a lot of trains transporting anhydrous ammonia or chlorine running through it.

[@michaelbrigg6058]

A breath of fresh air no stupid background music or commentary it speaks for itself. Ive driven cranes over the pond, no way would a load this big be allowed to swing like that, it would have steadying lines attached to stop it swinging. Poor crane management.

[@wthrmn654]

Glad to see your an expert with this particular situation. Do you know if the boxes are full or empty? Do you know the capacities and limits for the cranes being used? Do you actually knowthe angles the boom is at? They could be less then what you see... keep that in mind sir

[@NS_8103]

I was at the derailment scene a few hours after it happened. I couldn't get as close as you were to the scene because they were bringing in the equipment and had to have the road closed so they can unload the construction vehicles from the flatbeds. NS 4000 was also on 21Q trailing 2nd.

[@jacobleukhardt2323]

I was able to get closer the second day. The first day they had a lot more blocked off from my understanding.

[@robertgift]

Couldn't walk to a closer location?

[@spaceboy3101]

Great vid, but I would have liked to seen all the rest of the work to completion.

[@deniserobertson2821]

How often does this happen?

[@kempmt1]

After seeing that train wreck I have always wanted to see how they are going to clean it up and how long it will take. I believe it’s going to take them more than a day. How did this derailment happened? 19:22-why are we showing the first trailer being picked up twice? Why not show that white trailer being picked up?

[@MrKfq269]

RJ Corman to the rescue.

[@barroningram7286]

if you read the corman story i believe you can't help but pull for this company to secede

[@craig4867]

You're in good hands with Allstate!

[@arjnsdca]

I wish you could have filmed how they got the train cars off.

[@nlo114]

2:00 - 'Safety is our priority'. (dozer drives down middle of road dragging winch-chain ready to pick up stray manhole covers etc).

[@spaceboy3101]

Have you seen Terminator 3? (or was that T2)?

[@wthrmn654]

Now that would of been hilariously awesome and one of those you could never do that again if you tried, moments lol

[@phloughtgnarpsehs7263]

Loader...not dozer. Just sayin.

[@avontaprice6296]

Was there any cargo in any of those shipping containers that came off the train tracks ?

[@dannygayler3164]

Wow , Slow and tedious work , but a very good video , thanks mate I'll subscribe !

[@ronfogartyfogarty9362]

Nicely done I'm glad no one was injured keep up the good work

[@jacobleukhardt2323]

Ron Fogarty Fogarty thanks Ron! I’m glad no one was hurt as well.

[@joeprice3164]

Now I know why it takes so long to clean up a train wreck. The crane picked up the first box on that train car twice , and then picked up the second. Box on that train car twice. Watch the video and see for yourself

[@pokeyrailfanning]

Joe Price Container*

[@MrJonah53]

Careless editing. Stopped watching after that.

[@DavidJayCohenCoolTV]

Where was this?

[@gosportjamie]

Playing Jenga with each block tipping the scales at 50 tons... That takes serious balls...

[@stevenherrold5955]

did you see that flat car that says 125 T timestamp 9:51

[@avontaprice6296]

How many locomotives and shipping container train cars were there in total ?

[@avontaprice6296]

How many total train cars derailed ?

[@mrbob55304]

Call Ron Pratt. Track clear, clean and smooth. In 6 hours. Ron Pratt.

[@marryellen7713]

I have had that done to me several times. Someone with a camera taking the same thing you are. He or she will walk in front of your camera. "OH I did not notice I was in front of your camera".

[@ryanbarker1978]

I'm surprised the container wasn't tailed with another crane to avoid shock load. However, that crane operator is worth every penny paid

[@ramblingrob4693]

In UK we would have a 12 wheel crane doing this job easily .. No Track cranes here its either Rail or road crane.

[@wthrmn654]

@@ramblingrob4693 good for you guys. Can't tell if your just being friendly or being a wise ass shit. There are dedicated companies that do train derailments, maintenance work, e.t.c. there may actually be only 1 company that does all train cleanups across America, this one, whose name is slipping my mind. Tracked boom cranes are small, compact, but versatile on many kinds of terrains and they can certainly lift a lot more then one might realize. Americans rails after not easily accessible or near roads so 90%of the time a mobile telescoping crane would not work. If you look closely, there are 2 cranes, at least being used. 1 or both maybe crawler ones, but I could of swore there's is in fact 1 of the cranes you mentioned here being used.

[@wthrmn654]

@@ramblingrob4693 oh yeah also, depending on situation and everything those cranes may not be readily available or within a semi close location.

[@ramblingrob4693]

@@wthrmn654 UK isn't as big as USA so wouldn't take too long to get a localisation Crane hire company

[@otisharrisiii1253]

Where did the engines wind up at ? A Cleveland railfan.

[@lovelorn88nick]

Damn!!! Dr.Eggman must be at it again

[@sonic23233]

Are you from Pittsburgh?

[@randymorris8786]

A looming high potential for further damage and harm. They did a great job here to nullify any. Great job. Peace

[@nlo114]

Handy them being intermodal rather than box-cars or tankers, they can slot straight onto a semi for onward transit. (I'm sorry sir, your safely containerized Bugatti has had a mishap in transit)

[@spaceboy3101]

Bulk customer email the next day: " We are sorry to inform you that your order of super sized giant rubber underpants has been delayed " :(

[@briankeith5437]

Great video shows how you don't take trains for granted even going under them

[@jacobleukhardt2323]

Brian Keith thanks Brian! They’re certainly not something to mess with.

[@briankeith5437]

@@jacobleukhardt2323 I was up in a suburb of Chicago and seen a fully loaded up coal train derailed over a bridge and kill two elderly couple instantly from the weight of the coal they didn't know they were there till they started the cleanup

[@jacobleukhardt2323]

Wow. I’m sorry you had to witness that.

[@briankeith5437]

@@jacobleukhardt2323 that is why I always watch them

[@jacobleukhardt2323]

Yeah. Gotta keep your eyes out trackside.

[@ashevilletrainman6989]

I love how cool it is with all the mushed up metal.

[@hamjazz]

wrap up and just watch the video.

[@danvetor1365]

I'm surprised they allowed the dozer to drive down the street.

[@rob066101]

Let them lye for ever or deal with a little road scuffing. I dont think there much choice in the matter to get in optimum pulling or grading position with the dozer

[@bushranger51]

There were other tracked vehicles as well, the Heavy Lift cranes for example, which used the paved roads as well, so a dozer as well?, it doesn't matter in the over all scheme of the recovery. Beside the city or county or whatever, will eventually resurface the road when the budget allows. What matters firstly is getting the damaged/de-railed train away from causing more havoc, both to the area and the railroad asap, and if tracked vehicles are it, then so be it.

[@jeffhruska8626]

he had street tracks, just a little scuffing. What I was worried about is he was dragging the hook on his wench line. Needed to hang it up. Seen them dragged and go over a track and get hooked on a rail and do a bunch of damage.

[@phloughtgnarpsehs7263]

Slight nitpick....its not a dozer. It’s called a loader. And it doesn’t have “street tracks”. Those are the standard tracks that track loaders have.

[@robertduncan2742]

I'm wondering if the U.S.A. should do like overseas country's by using concrete blocks to lay the tracks on with the machines. Watching trains is memorizing

[@wthrmn654]

Are you referring to the the rail ties that go under the 2 rails? Cause they have been going to concrete on some rail lines for longevity reasons I do know.

[@cdavid8139]

The US utilizes concrete ties installed by machines in many locations

[@kevinhawkinberry3654]

What did the roads look like after the track machines went back n forth ....I could see it leaving marks already..

[@airman611]

Did these guys really lift that "stack" car and not use a tag line? Maybe I just didn't see it. I guess that I thought a lift this size would require it.

[@4226able]

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[@040119863842]

I often think I should start a crane business. We keep crane masters busy all the time in Chicago with the amount of derailments. They’re so expensive too, but it’s not easy work.

[@fluffnose3386]

Did the locos derail?

[@vlademirfaustino8046]

were there any injured?

[@richbowser9500]

Great camera work, really a good video. loved the music.

[@jacobleukhardt2323]

Thank you Rich!

[@MrHgavino]

Good Music !

[@deshirabrinson272]

Damn so my container going to be late?😂

[@aicirpb]

Will you do videos of the Light rail T in Pitts?

[@khadijagwen]

Did you happen to get the rest of the clean up?

[@jacobleukhardt2323]

Khadijah Brown Infortunately no. I had work.

[@andrewfoster1641]

Well, that's a different kind of intermodal transfer!

[@wespi881]

Did anyone know the reason for this derailment?

[@jacobleukhardt2323]

wespi881 NS has recently determined it to be due to a broken rail. I don’t think the NTSB has released their findings yet.

[@newwomyn]

It looks like it occurred on the Norfolk Southern MOM District Subdivision.

[@santiagoluisgarciacuesta5293]

un muy buen trabajo,tienen medios tecnicos y humanos

[@andrewcrane2786]

That going to take all night long to clean that mess up big time. Those Cranes can't left those containers up just like that al all

[@dennislawlor7001]

just wanted to say great work

[@neilcrawford8303]

In the UK our intermodal/container trains are time tabled for a maximum speed of 75mph. We don't have double stackers like the US, the bridges and tunnels don't have the clearance. It's something to see one belt through a station at 75mph. It's always in the back of my mind, what if this derails, it going to make a hell of a mess. I know I don't want to be on the platform the day that happens.

[@jacobleukhardt2323]

Neil Crawford interesting. This train was probably only going 30 mph. Other places they can go nearly 70.

[@cdavid8139]

The UK movements are much much shorter than in North America (US, MX and CA). We have states larger than the entire UK. As a result the way trains are moved varies a good bit. Not better or worse, just set up to best serve the needs of shippers.

[@matthewtalbot7854]

See this is what i been saying theres too many deer running around here and the train swerved to miss it and crashed. Lol

[@hamjazz]

as above

[@robpeters5204]

That crane operator must be shitting his pants when those containers release and go swinging.

[@donniegray553]

HEY! Aint no music! 1:25 - 2:37, is that legal? Hahaha, just kidding guys. Good vid

[@therealrobertbirchall]

America the biggest trains set on the planet lol🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@russellgxy2905]

I know the containers are designed to stay on top of each other, but damn

[@jemijona]

They are locked together when stacked with stacking pins. squaredbluecontainers.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/stacking-1.png

[@jameswormsley460]

yikes

[@fred6059]

Oh yeah I have been here. I am not too far away.

[@549BR]

Thanks for keeping it a secret as to where Station Square is located. I guess somewhere in Pa by the license plates.

[@jacobleukhardt2323]

BR549 Pittsburgh PA

[@rskalisky]

It literally tells you "Pittsburghs Station Square" in the first 25 seconds of video. Maybe pay attention

[@hamjazz]

Near the station.

[@robertgift]

*Cause?* *Where?* *When?* Thank you for sharing your video.

[@lemfarba4827]

Pittsburgh's Station Square. The train derailed due to the track splitting. The derailed cars slid down the hill and until the trolley lines (T system).

[@frankbrady8015]

Just like the fire dept. - PAID SLEEPERS !!

[@camerondouglas7055]

I wood be glad those are containers & not tank cars.who knows what's in those huge things most of the time.

[@ronfogartyfogarty9362]

You're welcome I enjoyed it keep it up

[@jacobleukhardt2323]

Ron Fogarty Fogarty will do. Thank you!

[@RailfanTurner]

Terrific catches! I wonder what would happened to the damaged intermodal containers? In my opinion/theory they will either be repaired or mostly scrapped.

[@gosportjamie]

I imagine they'll be sold off, the ones that are still in reasonable condition, for on-site storage, and the rest will be scrapped. Repairing damaged containers is a very risky business as any fault in the structural steel work could lead to another accident. Generally if the structure of the container is damaged then its working life is over...

[@therealrobertbirchall]

Some fab shops buy damaged container, it earns a few dollars repairing them and keeps the welders busy!

[@general5104]

There are lots of nice pictures I'd like to look at, but they're going by way too fast to see them. Would you please re-do this video, at least the first part of it, and give each picture at least 10 seconds apiece, please! You had some GOOD pictures and I didn't have enough time to enjoy-joy them! Thanks for your video

[@TvshkaHumma]

Well J B Hunt let out a sigh of relief!, finally a horrible accident that they did not cause!!.

[@stephaniejennis8900]

Great video 👍. What was the cause of the derailment?

[@lemfarba4827]

Track split.

[@calvingrondahl1011]

Teamwork and professionalism... dangerous situation, easy does it.

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[@victorbernier4765]

This is the first time I have ever seen this happen

[@jacobleukhardt2323]

Victor Bernier me as well. Was certainly in a tricky spot for them to clean up. They ended up dragging cars over the hill because they couldn’t get the equipment up to them.

[@okeanakidd5118]

@@jacobleukhardt2323 well that would be a good video to see ?????

[@victorschepers6286]

This bridge looks also in .......condition😢

[@angrodNumenesse]

Victor Schepers It's Pittsburgh, all the bridges look like crap.

[@shopshop144]

this vid needed tons of editing.

[@bapaqinthara6613]

Drone..not use ?

[@chucksimeonides1111]

I see no one had the sense to use steadying lines on the lower corners of the containers to prevent same from spinning while being lifted or lowered. Would also prevent damage to the containers and others.

[@gunsaway1]

Next time you do it for them. Sound like an expert. Corman give you job.

[@4226able]

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[@donpollard9460]

Tripod? Monopod?

[@4226able]

FOAMER TROLL POD???????.......NO TRESPASSING FOAMER TROLLSSSSSSZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

[@dogbarbill]

I can't imagine what the insurance cost on this mess amounted to.

[@jacobleukhardt2323]

dogbarbill estimated at 80,000 for track, 774,000 for equipment, plus the port authority was seeking 3 million for damages and service disruptions.

[@greenidguy9292]

NS is off the rails more often than on them…

[@Woloverine1]

Crime Scene Do Not Cross...Lol ND

[@georgew.5639]

They busted a few new flat screen TVs.

[@AffordBindEquipment]

I guess when you are a dozer, you can take your part out of the middle.

[@BossSpringsteen69]

Which is why i will never buy a house near a mainline.

[@spacejackin]

A Swift trailer just doesn't look right unless it's laying on its side

[@kelvintorrence5994]

Your so wrong for that butt it's funny.i drive big trucks and hear so many jokes about them.

[@barroningram7286]

no lie

[@Og-Judy]

J B. HUNT as well. 😛🤣

[@stevenherrold5955]

I WONDER WHO GOT YELLED AT AND FIRED ??? for this mess

[@keplergso8369]

I can't imagine the huge work, the huge difficulties, to remove the cars after such a derailment !

[@loco4501]

Had to ruin it with music didn't you

[@jacobleukhardt2323]

Joseph Navratil if you got a problem with the music, don’t watch it. I couldn’t care less if you do or don’t

[@HotRod8625]

Turn the volume off and enjoy the video.

[@loco4501]

@@jacobleukhardt2323 I couldn't care less either butthole

[@jacobleukhardt2323]

Aussie Pom thank you! They’re wasting their breath!

[@jacobleukhardt2323]

Joseph Navratil what are you? 2? Calling people butthole. Smh

[@feliciascott6874]

Well this certainly qualifies as an OMG! A real mother cluster of a problem. Hopefully no injuries or haz-mat. Probably needed a lot of cops to keep out looters (considering it's Pitts-hole-burgh). Thanks for the video. Wish you had posted more info in the description.

[@skidmark7119]

Look at price of GAS!

[@jacobleukhardt2323]

skid mark that’s usually normal for out here! Right now it’s down to about 2:25

[@pressureworks]

3:12 no nerds past this point.

[@sparky107107]

wow.

[@fleetfoot27]

Like fish out of water. Trains can"t function without smooth rails.

[@michaelf6232]

Now imagine that crash, not being a mixed freight but oil tanker's !!!!

[@byrane759]

This happened in my home town. not that log ago. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nX6TiouHatKjm9k

[@ohgary]

But the tree huggers fight pipelines.

[@simply_kenetic4915]

Thats an intermodal not a mixed freight

[@JohnH0130]

Michael F: Now imagine the gasoline for your car costs twice as much, because the supply chain between the oil field, the refinery, and the gas station is bottlenecked because Chicken Littles think the sky is falling. Petroleum products are, yes, inherently potentially dangerous for precisely the same reason they are useful: a great deal of chemical energy is packed into a relatively small and easily handled mass of liquid. You might as well suggest we give up driving cars because people die in accidents. People accept risks like this in their everyday lives because they come to understand that it is impossible to eliminate it without unacceptably compromising the quality of their lives. Also note that doubling fuel costs will hit everyone's pocketbook at many places besides when refueling your own vehicle. It would certainly be nice if we could do without transport hazards in fuel distribution, but one must consider all the consequences of trying to eliminate such risks. Rail transport is not perfect, to be sure, but lacking adequate pipeline capacity, it is the best and [relatively] safest choice. A pipeline! Horrors! Not In My Back Yard!

[@michaelf6232]

What I ment by my original comment. This whole area would cease to exist with a huge BOOM especially if it exploded !!!

[@poobpoob1338]

"The train for the mystic ruins WILL NOT be departing soon!"

[@hamjazz]

as above

[@notthatdonald1385]

Who's making a thousand dollars a month?

[@planca3430]

wow this was a city nightmare for sure

[@izzynutz2000]

Did they ever determine what the cause was

[@jacobleukhardt2323]

izzynutz2000 NS has determined it to be broken rail. NTSB has yet to release their findings.

[@ZingsVideos]

Quite a mess!

[@frankmosch877]

Who get,s to do the dishes,just kidding,lots off dangerous work!! Hopefully it does not happen again??

[@knklbstr1239]

this video needs reedited, the same 2 containers removed from same car

[@jacobleukhardt2323]

Correct. One was shot with my phone. The other with my camera.

[@victorbernier4765]

There is a reason why there are moving the two containers apart. Each weight 40 tons. And thats to much for a single crane to lift. Being that far from the mess.

[@captainjohn787]

A fully loaded 53 ft. high cube container would weigh about 33 to 34 tons . . . empty, about 5.5 tons. Who know if the container is loaded or empty?

[@jebj1]

too bad you didn't record it with an old super 8. then I could have watched the same thing 3 times

[@jebj1]

more like 30 tons and there are cranes that could lift a lot more then that