Coil train separates and locks down in emergency.

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Philip’s Train Adventures

Philip’s Train Adventures

Күн бұрын

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@RandomJ2023
@RandomJ2023 2 жыл бұрын
Such an obedient mechanism stopping the separated portion, it stopped before the crossing, a very polite separation .
@TheBestPybro
@TheBestPybro Жыл бұрын
That separation was like, "Dearest apologies for this minor inconvenience. Please, allow me to halt before the rail crossing as to not interfere with small vehicle traffic"
@RandomTrainfan
@RandomTrainfan Жыл бұрын
@@TheBestPybro then thy shall be reconnected and travel to our destination.
@sandysmithvideos228
@sandysmithvideos228 2 жыл бұрын
As a videographer/photographer I appreciate your vanishing point shot and being at the right place. As a former trainmaster please don't ever stand on the tracks with your back to a siding. Grain elevators are notorious for not locking the siding, the derail devices or applying a hand brake. We want some more great videos from you.
@cockula776
@cockula776 2 жыл бұрын
You aren't kidding! I do a lot of Fire/EMS photography myself and have some friends throughout the Mid West who've seen/responded to such an incident. I can't even imagine ....
@soyounoat
@soyounoat 2 жыл бұрын
From 3:44 on I was thinking "Look behind you, or get off the track". Lots of people have died that way.
@garyr8435
@garyr8435 2 жыл бұрын
At least the derail was set correctly.
@fullscale4me
@fullscale4me 2 жыл бұрын
Having personally seen steel strapping flailing loose on lumber racks I don't feel comfortable standing closer that 35 feet from the main. I agree about the siding comments below. Drifting cars are dead silent on straight track!!!
@David0lyle
@David0lyle 2 жыл бұрын
Too right!! We have a lumber yard here in town that uses remote control locomotives. There’s no one in the cab’s most of the time.
@shawnpowell5876
@shawnpowell5876 4 ай бұрын
This has to be the BIGGEST consist of Steel Coils ive ever seen along with the Flat Cars of Steel behind it. Cheers from Laurel, Delaware USA.
@seaboardsystemproductions9714
@seaboardsystemproductions9714 24 күн бұрын
All of them are Conrail too.😊😊😊
@michaelharris3296
@michaelharris3296 2 жыл бұрын
Great catch. Nothing beats being in the right place at the right time.
@davidstewart5694
@davidstewart5694 2 жыл бұрын
How is this a great catch? This isn't good for operations.
@michaelharris3296
@michaelharris3296 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidstewart5694 , in the world of videography, a great catch is capturing the unusual or unexpected. As for “not good for operations “ most things occurring in the RR industry today are not good for operations.
@mongo5392
@mongo5392 2 жыл бұрын
Not if you’re in a car stuck at the crossing
@feminazislayer
@feminazislayer 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah literally didn't even have to move
@chillaxTF
@chillaxTF 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelharris3296 Can you elaborate on the last bit?
@truthtone58
@truthtone58 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing that a semi can carry one or maybe 2 coils at a time but a train can carry well over and hundred and then more cars for metal slabs. I imagine the freight bill for the steel company is unreal.
@jaythomas3118
@jaythomas3118 2 жыл бұрын
I hear they pay the train co’s about 2-5 million $ per run
@MIZUch.
@MIZUch. 2 жыл бұрын
But at least it's still cheaper than transporting all those coils with semis
@cdavid8139
@cdavid8139 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaythomas3118 It all depends on where the coils are going and how many railroads handle the move. It can also vary based on who owns the car. But if we use a figure of $5k per car then a unit train of 100 cars would be in the neighborhood of $500k. And there are very few coil unit trains like the one shown here. I've dealt with a few over the years but they were short haul trains with revenue far less than $5k per car.
@danniechaires
@danniechaires 2 жыл бұрын
and they don't have to tarp
@cdavid8139
@cdavid8139 2 жыл бұрын
@@danniechaires depends on the type of coil and how far they are moving it and what the shipper/consignee requires
@natgass8102
@natgass8102 2 жыл бұрын
it looks like you either were the movie director calling the action shots, or just happen to be in the right place at the right time! nice video of capturing all the action from start to finish, great video
@coolvideos777
@coolvideos777 Ай бұрын
Yeah, how dat wok
@lucast3006
@lucast3006 2 жыл бұрын
I love the sound of cicadas in the late summer. Some people hate them but I really like the sound.
@FlyingDaddy721
@FlyingDaddy721 2 жыл бұрын
Depends on quantity and proximity. The sound is nice but can get pretty out of hand.
@gregoryconnor9333
@gregoryconnor9333 2 жыл бұрын
I new a person who was terrified by it.
@oatlord
@oatlord 2 жыл бұрын
People hate that sound?
@kevindunlap5525
@kevindunlap5525 Жыл бұрын
It's a love or a hate. We had our 17 year cicada two years ago, it was glorious!!
@Bassotronics
@Bassotronics Жыл бұрын
@@kevindunlap5525 They make weird alien noises every 17 years or so.
@MAGronemeyer
@MAGronemeyer 2 жыл бұрын
This has to be one of the most unusual rail spotter incidents I have ever ran across. It looked like a busted knuckle joint at the coupler. At least it wasn't a major derailment.
@martintheiss4038
@martintheiss4038 2 жыл бұрын
in lay terms a connection piece failed and caused a general alarm in the operator's booth? I would hope it was just a simple matter requiring an emergency stop.
@rapman5363
@rapman5363 2 жыл бұрын
@@martintheiss4038 In America they are called cabs. The operators booth is usually only in subway cars this was a common occurrence and was just a slight hiccup in the overall operation of the railroad.
@RailRide
@RailRide 2 жыл бұрын
@@martintheiss4038 If a train's brake hose seperates (as it would if any two cars uncouple), the emergency braking is automatically triggered, since air pressure is what keeps the brakes released.
@rickydrone9274
@rickydrone9274 2 жыл бұрын
One knuckle rode over the other one and caused the separation. Heavy cars and possibly a slight dip in the track.
@fidelcatsro6948
@fidelcatsro6948 2 жыл бұрын
maybe the coupling needs a fresh can of WD40 🐱👍🏿
@schrap72
@schrap72 Ай бұрын
No problem. Knuckle breaks. Train car stops before crossing like an obedient puppy. Railman comes back, fixes the problem. Train continues. Gotta love it! ❤❤❤❤
@Gypples
@Gypples 2 жыл бұрын
How odd it was to see the rest of the train roll into the shot like that. Not something I've ever seen before.
@mikeymcmikeface5599
@mikeymcmikeface5599 Жыл бұрын
It was hilarious.
@DEPORTER_SUPPORTER
@DEPORTER_SUPPORTER Жыл бұрын
And right before the crossing.
@nightrider6769
@nightrider6769 4 ай бұрын
I thought that was pretty neat also.
@mr.deathly2105
@mr.deathly2105 12 күн бұрын
‘Cause that’s the way things happen on the Polar Express!
@eezyclsmooth9035
@eezyclsmooth9035 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, great video. Captured all the action. You frequently see "coli cars" but rarely do you get to see the COILS themselves. Here's of whole consist of coils.
@keithgilham9438
@keithgilham9438 2 жыл бұрын
Cool video, shows how good the emergancy brakes are on those… that’s a lot of weight to bring to a halt
@joaquinpinon2872
@joaquinpinon2872 2 жыл бұрын
Nicely done. I appreciate your patience and capturing the whole event. God bless you
@kishascape
@kishascape 2 жыл бұрын
Came in a bit fast during decoupling there.
@glenbearh9109
@glenbearh9109 2 жыл бұрын
Wow I am amazed at the power to pull all that steel from a dead stop. Yep I am a train buff! Dad used to take us as kids to watch the NY central trains stop or pass at Bronx,s Tremont station. Always loved the old T and P motors and of course the diesel's
@anthonyhitchings1051
@anthonyhitchings1051 Жыл бұрын
You dont really pull from a dead stop, there has to be slack in the consist so you pull the first car then pi k up the 2nd then the 3rd and so forth, each car when in motion helps the process keep going
@Shortline_railfanning
@Shortline_railfanning 11 ай бұрын
Tier 4 gevos have a lot of power.
@TidesGate
@TidesGate 10 ай бұрын
@@anthonyhitchings1051 There isn't always slack. So yeah you can pull from a dead stop
@anthonyj.adventures9736
@anthonyj.adventures9736 2 жыл бұрын
Goes to show how far a powered and unpowered section of train takes to actually stop. The head end with the locomotives went pretty far. Awesome video.
@mandus2345
@mandus2345 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJfRmJiYorFno6c Caso similar en México
@RailRide
@RailRide 2 жыл бұрын
Usually in this case the engineer would apply full power until the front portion's brakes drag him to a stop. This prevents the rear section from colliding with the front section (which could cause a derailment) (Edit: on modern diesels this may not be the case as according to another reply, onboard systems remove throttle control from the engineer in the event of an emergency application)
@-HDK-
@-HDK- 2 жыл бұрын
@@RailRide Incorrect. Once the brake pipe vents to the atmosphere, a locomotive's Pneumatic Control Switch opens and throttle is reduced to idle. All you can control is Dynamic Braking or the amount of air building up in your Independent Brake cylinders.
@RailRide
@RailRide 2 жыл бұрын
@@-HDK- So there is still the potential of the rear half colliding with the front half?
@-HDK-
@-HDK- 2 жыл бұрын
@@RailRide The ability to maintain power may of existed in the early diesel age and steam days, but to answer your question, yes. A separated train can collide together. An emergency application propagates through the brake pipe at 900 fps. The weight of each half, mix of loads/empties, and how the cars receive the loss of air can dictate if both halves meet again.
@James_Knott
@James_Knott Жыл бұрын
Back in the mid 70s, I was on a passenger train that separated. It was in the middle of nowhere, in Northern Ontario. I saw clouds of steam and the locomotives going around the curve without the train.
@kevindunlap5525
@kevindunlap5525 Жыл бұрын
Are you still sitting there? Did they have food?
@James_Knott
@James_Knott Жыл бұрын
@@kevindunlap5525 Are you still sitting there? No. Did they have food? Yes, they had full food and bar service. However, since it was the middle of winter and we lost the heat with a broken steam pipe, it was cold.
@DEPORTER_SUPPORTER
@DEPORTER_SUPPORTER Жыл бұрын
@@James_Knott are you still sitting there wtf?? Lol
@James_Knott
@James_Knott Жыл бұрын
@@DEPORTER_SUPPORTER Yep. Been here almost 50 years! 🙂
@kaspervestergaard2383
@kaspervestergaard2383 Жыл бұрын
@@James_Knott You are getting old James.
@Gazooka
@Gazooka 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome to know that a safeguard actually works when it should
@loco42041
@loco42041 Жыл бұрын
What happens when a train separates (just like the one in the film) the Air Brake Pipes come undone and that makes the whole train come to a stop ( eventually) depending on the speed of the train at the time of separation.
@Ramon-oy5fq
@Ramon-oy5fq Жыл бұрын
When the rail cars separated the air line came loose causing The breakers to apply . When the air pressure Drops below a certain PSI .they lock down.
@MoNsTeRiSkIcKaSs
@MoNsTeRiSkIcKaSs 16 күн бұрын
used to work at a steel slitting place and I gotta say that's a crazy amount of weight on that train really
@MoNsTeRiSkIcKaSs
@MoNsTeRiSkIcKaSs 14 күн бұрын
majestic break though
@Mrruneight
@Mrruneight 2 жыл бұрын
Great catch! Anyone notice the reporting marks on those coil cars? NYC with the Conrail logo. Awesome!
@knowledgeispowermediaprodu7094
@knowledgeispowermediaprodu7094 Жыл бұрын
Now there is something you don't see everyday! Nice catch! I'm glad everything was ok.
@AlexandarHullRichter
@AlexandarHullRichter 13 күн бұрын
Hilarious to see the rest of the train just casually rolling to a stop right in front of you. There isn't really anything else that it could do, but it just seems funny somehow with how polite it looks.
@brianstratton8767
@brianstratton8767 2 жыл бұрын
Wow..I worked briefly at a galvanized pipe factory in Michigan around 04; this train's got at least 10x their inventory. 4-6+ tons/roll, yowza. No end to that consist in video but even though 2nd half is empty that's some insane weight:0. Hope it all landed safely!
@whiteknightcat
@whiteknightcat 2 жыл бұрын
Um ... those rolls are about 20 tons each.
@therockman6482
@therockman6482 2 жыл бұрын
​@@whiteknightcat Well, that explains Ice Road Truckers now. 😉
@cowpiekiller
@cowpiekiller Жыл бұрын
@@whiteknightcat hardly. Those strip coils are probably close to 10k each. The boom trucks that transport usually cap at 14k
@whiteknightcat
@whiteknightcat Жыл бұрын
@@cowpiekiller Coils weights vary widely based on outside diameter, inside diameter, and width of the coil. Using an online shipping calculator, a smaller coil, maybe 4 feet in diameter with a 2 foot core, and 4 feet across would weigh in at about 9.2 tons. A five foot diameter, five foot wide coil with a 3 foot core would calculate out to about 14.4 tons, while a 6 foot diameter coil would come out to about 25.5 tons. I've never seen or heard of these things being transported on a boom truck. I've only ever seen them on conventional flatbeds, no more than two per trailer. They require a crane or gantry to load or unload.
@DEPORTER_SUPPORTER
@DEPORTER_SUPPORTER Жыл бұрын
@@whiteknightcat yeah I was thinking around 12 to 20 ton.
@jamesreed8432
@jamesreed8432 2 жыл бұрын
It's a good example of the safety systems at work here, the separated cars loose there air so the brakes bring it to an emergency stop
@stueyphone
@stueyphone 9 күн бұрын
The air keeps the breaks engaged on default !
@filanfyretracker
@filanfyretracker 2 жыл бұрын
Strangest call to the number on the crossing gate I bet. “Your train left half of its cars behind”.
@bennoakes2477
@bennoakes2477 Жыл бұрын
but which half?
@mrgoodwrench8181
@mrgoodwrench8181 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mr Westinghouse!
@spoodermen1897
@spoodermen1897 Ай бұрын
this is one of the big reasons why trains breaks are in the fully closed position normally and require pressure to open, in a event like this after the train breaks apart the air pressure is severed and the breaks will lock fully on while the air pressure leaks from the hoses. works backwards from a normal vehicles breaks where it requires pressure to close the breaks.
@kirkhamandy
@kirkhamandy 2 жыл бұрын
You can see why folks try to skip the crossing, if you get caught by that you might as well turn around and find a diner and have lunch. When you're done it may have cleared the crossing
@anthonyjarrett3206
@anthonyjarrett3206 Жыл бұрын
So long
@kaspervestergaard2383
@kaspervestergaard2383 Жыл бұрын
You like it long? @@anthonyjarrett3206
@phuturephunk
@phuturephunk Жыл бұрын
Hey, look at it this way, at least it didn't block the intersection. 😆 Also, I love how these wagons still have New York Central registration marks on them even though the railroad hasn't existed in 50 years.
@4everdc302
@4everdc302 2 жыл бұрын
Great coverage👍happens to me all the time just in a smaller scale😁🚂🇨🇦🇺🇲🙋
@Kaithelegoguy
@Kaithelegoguy Жыл бұрын
I absolutely hate when that happens its infuriating especially with magnetic couplers
@StrangeScaryNewEngland
@StrangeScaryNewEngland 13 күн бұрын
Imagine in the old days before radio when this happened. They could probably go 30 miles before they realize they gotta reverse it. Lol!
@sthpac69
@sthpac69 2 жыл бұрын
I have this problem sometimes on my shelf train, but I have never saw a video showing this. This video deserve the RAIL FAN train award (if there is one) because this was awesome and you were in the right spot at the right time. Like another comment sid: those cars slow down to a stop right away when the engine is not pulling. I would think that those runnaways would have come across that crossing pretty fast.
@RailRide
@RailRide 2 жыл бұрын
Both halves of the train went into emergency braking when the couplers let go (right after the locomotives passed the crossing, you hear the sharp blast of air). The front half being much shorter would normally come to a stop first, so usually the engineer would apply full power to insure the rear half doesn't plow into the front half (which could cause a derailment).
@sthpac69
@sthpac69 2 жыл бұрын
@@RailRide It makes all the sense in the world to me and thanks for explaining.
@sharkheadism
@sharkheadism 2 жыл бұрын
@@RailRide You can't apply power when the brake pipe is at 0 psi. The PCS valves in the locomotives will open and drop the load to the traction motors. Even if you could, you'd get a knuckle pulling so hard on equipment in emergency.
@RailRide
@RailRide 2 жыл бұрын
@@sharkheadism I also heard exactly that as well. Somewhere I recall this being brought up, and someone speculated that this _may_ have been possible with older-generation equipment, but where I read it I no longer recall. Was this feature always a part of diesel braking systems?
@sharkheadism
@sharkheadism 2 жыл бұрын
@@RailRide As far as I know it has been. What has changed is a dynamic brake holding capability, that's somewhat new.
@davidscott6611
@davidscott6611 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. I see many coils come through in the bluegrass state.
@josephaltman460
@josephaltman460 2 жыл бұрын
How do you know where to film when these mishaps happen?! AMAZING 👏 🙀
@ronnieclough4800
@ronnieclough4800 2 жыл бұрын
Great catch that train did exactly what it was designed to do that is a HEAVY TRAIN
@yukon4511
@yukon4511 2 жыл бұрын
Hats off to George Westinghouse!
@raincoast9010
@raincoast9010 4 ай бұрын
What a catch! And such a polite train to stop just short of the crossing... Good thing it stayed on the rails.
@flyingfortressrc1794
@flyingfortressrc1794 2 жыл бұрын
Wow you were definitely in the right place at the right time for this video.
@akgobears
@akgobears 2 жыл бұрын
Lotta hot bands there....Seen quite a few of them in my 42 yrs at U.S. Steel....I worked at a finishing plant in Calif. and they used to come in by rail from back east like that all the time....Big old long strings of coils....We used to get some from overseas also that came in by boat....
@atiashaunbaker3792
@atiashaunbaker3792 2 жыл бұрын
I love hearing that sound when rail cars couple togetha.. Metal on metal
@rockerjim8045
@rockerjim8045 Жыл бұрын
I once saw a Container Train separate at Basingstoke Station in the UK. It blocked the main line. The bill to Freightliner would be enormous. It was £87 a minute per train !
@valenzaplumbing
@valenzaplumbing Жыл бұрын
In America, the class 1 freight railroads own the show. If that happened here, the passenger trains would be delayed and it’s tough potatoes for them.
@rickygarcia3454
@rickygarcia3454 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video but you need to stay off of the tracks as a fellow foamer and Hallcon driver we need to be safe.
@fogdan
@fogdan 2 жыл бұрын
Great Catch!!! Thanks for posting!!!
@Hobbytrem
@Hobbytrem Ай бұрын
SO BEAUTIFUL TO SEE THOSE LETTERS "NYC" AND THE CONRAIL LOGO ON THOSE CARS! 🟦⬜
@PowerTrain611
@PowerTrain611 2 жыл бұрын
Steel coils are heavy stuff! Without a DPU, just one wrong move can break a knuckle. Same with coal and ballast.
@captainkeyboard1007
@captainkeyboard1007 2 жыл бұрын
Your comment just taught me something new. I am amazed that when those coil cars were recoupled, the knuckles were in good condition. I appreciate your output. Happy Railroading!
@PowerTrain611
@PowerTrain611 2 жыл бұрын
@@captainkeyboard1007 I'm glad you appreciate the information! The knuckle was probably replaced. When a train separates like this, it's often that a knuckle breaks clean off. They have spares, usually 4, one on each corner of the locomotive. You can actually see them on the front and rear pilots by the mu hoses. It's a long trip for the conductor to carry an 80 pound knuckle from the engine to the point of the break. They often call the car or MOW department who sends someone in a truck the give them a ride if they're close enough. They replace the knuckle, re-couple the cars together and recharge the air line. The whole process can take an hour or more on a bad day...
@captainkeyboard1007
@captainkeyboard1007 2 жыл бұрын
@@PowerTrain611 Thank you for tapping or typing to me.
@PowerTrain611
@PowerTrain611 2 жыл бұрын
@@captainkeyboard1007 You're very welcome!
@SirRommy
@SirRommy Жыл бұрын
​​An hour to do that would be a GOOD day. But, you did say "or more". Or more is usually the case.
@Beatlefan67
@Beatlefan67 Жыл бұрын
Very neatly stopped each side of that level crossing!
@pcdebb
@pcdebb 2 жыл бұрын
Amateur question here: does the guys up front get a warning when the cars split? Sorry I’m just learning the terminology.
@mikemallano2484
@mikemallano2484 2 жыл бұрын
No, not really all that will happen when the cars separate is the air pressure in the brake lines will drop to zero, and throw the train into an emergency braking application. The lead locomotive will get an immediate indication in the cab (most likely a red warning light on a computer monitor), but they will already know that -- even without the light as they will be thrown forward in their seat with such a severe brake application, as the momentum of the railcars keeps pushing them along till they finally stop.
@pcdebb
@pcdebb 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikemallano2484 thank you so much for the reply. I’ve gone down several deep rabbit holes since then and feel like I’m a pro now. When/if I ever hear it I’ll know! 😅
@robertcampbelljr.3195
@robertcampbelljr.3195 2 жыл бұрын
Yes,alarms go off and the train automatically comes to a stop 🛑
@johnbuoy1401
@johnbuoy1401 2 жыл бұрын
I too was wondering this so good job you asked actually 🙂
@mr.polemikus4933
@mr.polemikus4933 2 жыл бұрын
You can feel that “puff” at 0:05 Likely is the broken brake line that depressurizes the circuit and brakes the two parts of the convoy. Driver obviously feels the sudden braking and observes abnormal and sudden drop of the brake main pressure gauge
@NWORails
@NWORails Ай бұрын
Out of all spots along the CSX Toledo subdivision, i never would of guessed Cairo Ohio. This would be B523. I've seen it numerous times in Lima, just south of Cairo.
@anthonylawrence2094
@anthonylawrence2094 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't there a monitor attached to the coupler on the last car to alert the Engineer that he lost some cars?
@fidelcatsro6948
@fidelcatsro6948 2 жыл бұрын
a trained pigeon would fly forward and inform the train captain 🐱👍🏿
@stargazer7644
@stargazer7644 Ай бұрын
He'll probably notice when all the brakes come on full after the air line separates.
@ImIllITeRaTeAnD
@ImIllITeRaTeAnD Жыл бұрын
I follow a similar routine when leaving the house in the morning.
@wallyman292
@wallyman292 2 жыл бұрын
What an incredible piece of luck to have it break right where it did like that!
@Lufex_
@Lufex_ 12 күн бұрын
"We lost something." "Not to worry, we are still driving half a train."
@williamedwards1528
@williamedwards1528 Жыл бұрын
Yikes! Getting that close and keeping your back to rest of train? Completely missed the separation
@FloatTheBuizel
@FloatTheBuizel 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao the second half slowly rolling into the cameras view XD
@gunsaway1
@gunsaway1 2 жыл бұрын
That is an insane heavy train.
@fidelcatsro6948
@fidelcatsro6948 2 жыл бұрын
just pouring a can of stp oil treatment in one of the diesel generators could make an instant vast performance difference!🐱👍🏿
@adamsams542
@adamsams542 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know who the person is that shot this video but, I heard the train bust his air on the video. So, that means the train just went into Emergency. Anytime that happens, that means the train could derail and that's not very smart to get closer to the train. I've been around the RR for a very long time and I've seen the wild stuff. So, for anybody that is reading this, any time a train go into emergency you need to get further away from the tracks because something bad could happen.
@Ghauster
@Ghauster 2 жыл бұрын
From the angle his camera kept sweeping back and forth from I'd wager they were standing on the siding or at least within the clearance width.
@jerrylawrence8477
@jerrylawrence8477 2 жыл бұрын
Little fun fact, One of those type of coils got loose at a loading facility it crushed a car and a fence at low speed.
@danielcraig8044
@danielcraig8044 2 жыл бұрын
Wow talk about right place at the right time and fact that you was so cool about it not too many people would have that reaction.
@philipspencer1834
@philipspencer1834 2 ай бұрын
Blimey! How much weight was on that knuckle….. that is one long coil train…. 🥺
@alexmarshall4331
@alexmarshall4331 Жыл бұрын
That kind of coupling is called a 'buckeye' in the UK...no buffers I note...I was a past second man (qualified but a second man awaiting a vacancy) in 70s...we used drop over couplings and we had buffers...what was the 'snatch' like on these mega trains...at Hither Green depot we were booked the Welbeck...the longest train in Europe...it was delivering huge Portland stone boulders for the Thames Barrier but it wasn't that long!!!
@fidikvien7682
@fidikvien7682 9 ай бұрын
Holy CRAP... with all that steel onboard that is one HEAVY train, wow.
@mikewalko536
@mikewalko536 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible shot!
@arbigdog73
@arbigdog73 Жыл бұрын
New York Central coil cars! Awesome catch!
@garylarson6386
@garylarson6386 2 жыл бұрын
amazing they could recouple , usually breaks knuckle or drawbar, coils are 50,000 - 60,000
@christopherdibble5872
@christopherdibble5872 Жыл бұрын
Still get a far away look in my eye, when I hear an old train in the night!
@ralphaverill2001
@ralphaverill2001 2 жыл бұрын
The right place at the right time. All those heavy steel coils make for a lot of inertia. There were some hot brake shoes!
@davidbroadbent2529
@davidbroadbent2529 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting Video I noticed only a few coil cars are carrying a full load of 5 reels (5.11 fyi) while most seem to have only 4 reels and gap in middle. Wonder if the steel in the reels maybe diff grade, thickness or temper or width, and they are grouped together for those reasons
@jamesbuckner4791
@jamesbuckner4791 2 жыл бұрын
Might be that they are trying to reduce wear on the tracks and rolling stock as well
@erzahler1930
@erzahler1930 2 жыл бұрын
Probably it's more for equal distribution of weight. With 5 coils, the weight can be evenly distributed. With 4 coils, distributing the weight over or adjacent to the trucks will evenly distribute the weight. Look at a loaded flatbed semi-trailer sometime. If the load is of a small quantity but heavy, the load will be evenly distributed over the kingpin and the wheels. It's the same idea here.
@RODALCO2007
@RODALCO2007 2 жыл бұрын
How many wagons did this train have, there was no end in sight when the video stopped at the end. Great capture.
@dra32411
@dra32411 2 жыл бұрын
It prolly had like over 300 cars, coil train's intend to be long
@GEES44DC
@GEES44DC 2 жыл бұрын
@@dra32411 Absolutely not.
@fidelcatsro6948
@fidelcatsro6948 2 жыл бұрын
100 the most..i think
@paulbissitt4754
@paulbissitt4754 Жыл бұрын
Those coils I reckon are at least 10 tonnes each.And the length of the train? Well it just seemed to go on and on.Any of you guys out there know what the overall length and total weight was? Nothing as awesome here in the UK,so I found this video very interesting and enjoyable especially as no one was injured.
@Transit_Biker
@Transit_Biker 2 жыл бұрын
Love the NYC reporting mark!
@Sven_Okas1967
@Sven_Okas1967 2 жыл бұрын
Nice catch. Greetings from Berlin/ Germany. Sven
@superbulldog81
@superbulldog81 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! talk about being at the right place at the right time!
@christopherdibble5872
@christopherdibble5872 2 жыл бұрын
Trackside, keep waving to them great engineers CHRIS
@keithtanner2806
@keithtanner2806 2 жыл бұрын
How to be in the right place at the right time!! How many tons in that train? 😳
@louiebeehler1042
@louiebeehler1042 2 жыл бұрын
I once lived in a house by the tracks, had a coil train like that go by with a coil unraveling itself from it’s center. Very loud and was making a helluva mess of the crossing signals and ballast!. Late 80’s in Mishawaka,Indiana
@therockman6482
@therockman6482 2 жыл бұрын
Did you catch it on video?? 🤣 🤣
@kishascape
@kishascape 2 жыл бұрын
@@therockman6482 on super8 film at 18fps
@jesstill7833
@jesstill7833 2 жыл бұрын
Wow what a catch mate one in a Million Cheers 👍👍👍👍🇦🇺🇦🇺
@Weirdo_on_yt724
@Weirdo_on_yt724 Жыл бұрын
Unofficially the longest train 🚂
@ScubaOz
@ScubaOz 2 жыл бұрын
What broke? what did they fix? Did not show anything
@eddieknox9874
@eddieknox9874 Жыл бұрын
best shot in the world and you got it on video, great catch
@WinterGamesYT
@WinterGamesYT 2 жыл бұрын
Ok that's kinda comical how the detached car just creeped into the frame and stopped
@jaydennis7631
@jaydennis7631 Жыл бұрын
Photobombed 😂
@DanielWorthy-zc3bc
@DanielWorthy-zc3bc 3 ай бұрын
I believe that’s in Cairo Ohio I ran on that line with the I&O when I worked there
@NWORails
@NWORails Ай бұрын
Yes
@christiangibbs8534
@christiangibbs8534 Жыл бұрын
Wow- that's amazing that it happened right where, and when, you were shooting. Heck, if I didn't know better, I'd wonder if you had broken the knuckle yourself to stage the video! (Of course, I'm being sarcastic; no hate-filled comments about my parentage are necessary.) This is definitely a one-in-a-million video. With your kind of luck, you should play the lottery. Congrats on a great video and thanks for sharing it with us.
@RobertCraft-re5sf
@RobertCraft-re5sf Жыл бұрын
Haha. You waiteted there looking at the workers like "I want the rest of my train 😤"
@larrynorman1919
@larrynorman1919 2 жыл бұрын
I think there are sensors on these cars that when a coil comes undone as in this case #1106 it goes into auto separation, according to UP the coils weigh in at 186,000 lbs that's a massive projectile at any speed.
@nathanschmidt4889
@nathanschmidt4889 2 жыл бұрын
Nope, just good old fashioned mechanics. When the glad hands rip, the air pressure plummets, releasing the brake shoes from the back pressure and stopping the train.
@Truth_Be_Bold
@Truth_Be_Bold 2 жыл бұрын
@@nathanschmidt4889 Vacuum brakes, I guess. When the vacuum hoses in between the wagons seperate the pressure drops and the brakes on the wagons are set in action. Simultaneously, there is pressure drop in the locomotive too.
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 2 жыл бұрын
@@Truth_Be_Bold No, air brakes.
@Truth_Be_Bold
@Truth_Be_Bold 2 жыл бұрын
@@beeble2003 Ok. Thanks, buddy!
@johnstudd4245
@johnstudd4245 2 жыл бұрын
I unload those coils at my workplace. They are usually about 40,000 - 50,000 lbs. Sometimes smaller. There is nothing "high tech" on the railcars. The coils we use come in on covered railcars. These uncovered ones are often going to another facility for further processing, although some are used where rust does not make a difference.
@drip_behemoth
@drip_behemoth Жыл бұрын
I’ve been a railfan for 4 years and I never knew coil trains existed
@ramblingrob4693
@ramblingrob4693 Жыл бұрын
Rare in UK,,most go by road
@moonlight_trains1
@moonlight_trains1 Жыл бұрын
Same here
@UserDefaultEurope
@UserDefaultEurope 20 күн бұрын
Finland builds the world's largest cruise ships (example: Icon of the Seas), most icebreakers and a lot of cruiseferries and ferries. Steel, engines, cabins, lifeboats and most of the parts come from domestic sources (highest domestic rate in the world for shipbuilding), thus a whole lot moves at night on rails. Passengers own the daytime.
@steveanderson9290
@steveanderson9290 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many of those wheels had flat spots BEFORE the emergency stop?
@oldrustycars
@oldrustycars 2 жыл бұрын
"Does it seem like we're going a lot faster? As if we're pulling less weight?"
@fidelcatsro6948
@fidelcatsro6948 2 жыл бұрын
"naaah must the fresh shell rotella engine oil doing its thing"
@northeastrailwayproductions
@northeastrailwayproductions Жыл бұрын
What timing. Aweso.e place to be standing!!❤
@whiteknightcat
@whiteknightcat 2 жыл бұрын
00:55 - It looks like it broke a knuckle or ... something. Well, you could have walked about 30 feet toward the crossing and shown us. 01:45 - Conductor dismounts from moving car. Isn't that a rules violation now?
@wnyrailfan9510
@wnyrailfan9510 2 жыл бұрын
Nope, as long as the train is at or under 4mph it’s all good
@whiteknightcat
@whiteknightcat 2 жыл бұрын
@@wnyrailfan9510 Thank you for clarifying.
@wnyrailfan9510
@wnyrailfan9510 2 жыл бұрын
@@whiteknightcat no prob. I’m at week four of conductor training in Atlanta so that’s how i know😂
@whiteknightcat
@whiteknightcat 2 жыл бұрын
@@wnyrailfan9510 Good luck to you.
@ZoMTDU
@ZoMTDU 2 жыл бұрын
@@wnyrailfan9510 confirm this is true. From what I was told getting off a moving tank car is a rules violation
@suppylarue220
@suppylarue220 4 ай бұрын
I wonder how many cars still use NYC and PRR reporting marks.
@KenyonKarl
@KenyonKarl 2 жыл бұрын
You must credit George Westinghouse (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Westinghouse) for inventing the train air brake in 1869. 80 pounds per square inch in the train line releases the brakes for the whole train, while reducing the air pressure to atmospheric level throws on the brakes for an emergency stop. Thus when the train separated, both halves made an emergency stop! I stopped the video at 2:40 after watching a re coupling which 'proves' that both knuckles seem to be intact and functional. But I must continue watching to see if the train can proceed successfully. If not, then it will happen again and again until the damaged coupler is replaced. :-(
@kapekodbob
@kapekodbob 2 жыл бұрын
So it uncoupled for an unknown reason, air pressure went to zero and air released brakes applied and stopped the uncoupled cars just like it is supposed to work. Nice capture
@asitchakraborty3760
@asitchakraborty3760 2 жыл бұрын
Not just the uncoupled wagons but the rest of the train too
@kapekodbob
@kapekodbob 2 жыл бұрын
@@asitchakraborty3760 Well now that you told me makes perfect sense if I thought about. Thanx
@asitchakraborty3760
@asitchakraborty3760 2 жыл бұрын
@@kapekodbob You are welcome
@Nike2141
@Nike2141 Жыл бұрын
wow the odds of capturing that on camera are very low! That is amazing
@delpacificotrains5365
@delpacificotrains5365 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, are those regular containers well cars, or some special cars for coils?
@RailRide
@RailRide 2 жыл бұрын
Coil cars, special built for the purpose of hauling rolls of sheet steel. Usually these cars have covers, but this shipment likely does not require protection from the elements.
@RobbyTripp
@RobbyTripp 2 жыл бұрын
So it came undone for some reason and they just reattach and continue on? Doesn’t seem like that’s proper protocol but I have no idea.
@jeffreyhunt2686
@jeffreyhunt2686 2 жыл бұрын
Conductor didn't do his safety stop before coupling up. By the way I've had this type issue happen to me several times. What's happened is the long cushioned under-frame draw heads will sometimes drop below or raise above the next coupler on railroad crossing. If the drop or raise enough the cars will come uncouple
@SirRommy
@SirRommy Жыл бұрын
CSX doesn't require safety stops in that situation anymore. Possibly a cut lever swing caused the knuckle to open. It was swinging a bit when they tied on.
@yvesd_fr1810
@yvesd_fr1810 Жыл бұрын
I am always amazed to see how many couplers do brake in US trains. My analysis may be wrong but : I found that fret trains are quite heavy in the US, putting enormous stress on these couplers. Plus, If shunting is done as seen on the video , I do understand why couplers break. This is very brutal and damned, this is a mad way not to manage the material !
@totallypluggedin
@totallypluggedin Ай бұрын
Amazing footage! Thank Goodness it stopped where it did!
@robertbate5790
@robertbate5790 2 жыл бұрын
Whoa!!! Incredible. You couldn't have been better placed if had been staged, great shot 👍👍👍 What I find more Incredible is they just bash it together again and carry on as if nothing had happened. Not even a snatch test to see if it had properly locked, or might part again. Does this happen so often that no one bothers about it?
@whiteknightcat
@whiteknightcat 2 жыл бұрын
I'm of the impression that the knuckle on the trailing car broke, but its replacement was omitted from the video. Heck, he never even bothered to show us what it looked like until they were making the train back up.
@taijuan5087
@taijuan5087 2 жыл бұрын
Railroad safety protocol says you're supposed to "stretch" the coupling before departing for that very reason. I'm surprised this train crew failed to do this.
@cdavid8139
@cdavid8139 2 жыл бұрын
@@taijuan5087 When you pull ahead if your EOT device tells you the rear end is moving you're good to go. If you pull apart the train will go right back into emergency. Now on a shoving move you definitely want to do a stretch test before shoving.
@waynemercer4546
@waynemercer4546 2 жыл бұрын
Is that a common situation with the coupling coming unfastened like that?
@SirRommy
@SirRommy Жыл бұрын
Well, I don't know I would say "common" but it does happen from time to time.
@heinzbreuer2674
@heinzbreuer2674 Жыл бұрын
Good mornig sehr gute Aufnahmen Danke für die schöne bilder you a good camera man ❤ greetings from Germany Cologne ein Fan aus Krefeld
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