.22 Air Rifle Vs .22LR Hunting!

In this video I compare and hunt with a .22 PCP air rifle and a .22 long rifle!
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[@blockethoutdoors]

Mark 16:15 He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation."

[@NorthernTrapperOutdoors]

Amen! Happy sunday!

[@Hunters_Paradise73]

Amen. God Bless

[@kukitubers9673]

bro please buy me an air rifle …. im from india (107th days of asking for an air rifle)

[@kukitubers9673]

bro

[@kukitubers9673]

bro

[@michaelhurst506]

The M3 can be tuned to 950-1050 fps with 40-44 gr slugs which will almost exactly match the power and accuracy of the 40 gr Eley Match that you're using. It isn't a matter of airgun vs firearm for hunting in the same caliber--it is the bullet/slug/pellet weight, velocity, type of bullet (HP, solid, copper plated, etc), composition of bullet/slug/pellet (soft lead, hard lead, etc.), and of course the noise level that either is appropriate or not for the hunting you are doing. Otherwise, I appreciate the effort you put into these videos in trying to make comparisons. Thanks.

[@kevinhood9781]

Fire power beats air long distance though

[@Jaxd9795]

@@kevinhood9781 Consistency wins out at long range and modern air guns can be much more consistent than powder burners

[@mikewhitman745]

I shoot some cheap federal 22's and they are hitting 1260 fps. 950 fps is subsonic and not nearly a powerful as a standard 22lr. You are comparing max power of the air rifle to the least powerful 22lr. Apples to oranges.

[@andrewlightbody4221]

Yeah... I just started getting into airguns. I had no idea how cool and advanced they have gotten.

[@dougiefresh3767]

@mikewhitman745 The .22lr may produce more energy but not by much. My M3 800 mm .22 is pushing a 40 grain boattail hp at about 1040 fps 96 fpe and 1060 fps 100 fpe on a hot day, and it is not even turned up to the max. My spread is 5 fps with 10 shots. 30 shots is usually a spread of 8 fps. All I'm saying is they both have their place, but don't underestimate the compressed air. Lol!

[@troywarrenfeltz3311]

Just got into pcp hunting this year with a Gauntlet 2 .22 cal. Love it!!! It does force you to focus on precision, and its a different experience.

[@whiskeykilmer1866]

Had no idea that groundhogs climbed trees. Good video.

[@skylarpeters4997]

Same

[@dougiefresh3767]

Right. Lol!

[@courtneyunderwood7697]

That's a new one on me as well. Heck I didn't know they could climb fence posts either until I saw it myself.

[@ENOCH9MM-vl2bm]

They’re the largest in the squirrel family. They can climb but for some reason rather dig in my house foundation.

[@dougiefresh3767]

@@ENOCH9MM-vl2bm Lol! Right. They keep digging up holes where we have about 17 head of cattle walking around.

[@cariemanticos6698]

I am 77 years old . I enjoy your airgun videos, especially the hunting ones,

[@alexandreguignard339]

A huge thank you for this good person who is genuine in his curiosity and benevolence. Knowing more about airguns and inselves, I fully endorse this comment.... but in my humble opinion, @dougiefresh3767 you have something to make up for by expressing yourself like that in the comments on such a harmless video 😎😎

[@garytrigg-graynoth4034]

Hey, nice video👍 here in Australia I tend to use a 17hmr on small game, absolute devastating round at 100mtrs. Only issue is it’s quite a bang even when suppressed. A 22lr is great but the 17hmr is more consistent and the round disintegrates on impact.

[@rajha1900]

Videos take time to edit and post. So two thumbs up! I own an FX M3 22 cal. 700 barrel. I can bench shoot a dime size target with Nelson 35 gr. slug at 89 yards every time. Work with Utah Airguns they will help you shoot sub MOA with the FX M3

[@dougiefresh3767]

I got the FX M3 800 mm .22 barrel with the Huma extra high pressure reg set at 170 bar valve set at 4 ¼ lines and micro adjuster at 3.7 with he slug kit and tungsten hammer, and I'm slinging 34 grain Griffin boattail hollow points at 1115-1130 fps and 40 grain Griffin boat tails at 1040-1050 fps and it is spot on. It's 5 inches of drop at 100 yards with a 50-yard zero.

[@scinner28]

ow boy now we talking ..a guy who knows his air rifle ..glad you came in man .👍

[@jerrykmack3074]

Yes and because you're shooting slugs which have a much higher ballistic coefficient and are not affected by wind anyway near as much as pellets and they are much flatter shooting and maintain their velocity and impact energy as well. As to letiality the FX loaded with Hybrid air rifle slugs (very soft near pure lead hollow points) are actually More Lethal than standard or Hollow point 22 rimfire ammunition. Far more tissue damage and larger wound cavity and for practical purposes the Air rifle round expends very nearly 100% of it's stored kinetic energy inside the target animal

[@dougiefresh3767]

@jerrykmack3074 I know all about ballistic coefficients and gyroscopic stability and twist rates and spin drift and everything else, and yes, air rifle ammo is more expansive than 22lr. That's all I do is test airgun ammo from manufacturers. In my own opinion, AVS and Griffin ammo are far more superior to the rest. I use JBM ballistics and game animals to test their ammo, and those 2 companies seem to do the best as far as bc and energy transfer go in my own opinion.

[@awperonline6576]

4:41 hey hey hey hey lol

[@eddiecahall3824]

Nice! You do know the Impact M3 will do the job. You need 700 mm barrel or 800mm barrel. Matt Dubbers UTube channel they shoot out to 200 yards on rock chucks an such with 40 gr slugs. They also shoot competition for FX with airguns against 22 rimfires and beat them every year in the PRS matches! So , yeah ur 22 airgun is actially better. The FX panthera is a monster too. It beat out the competitions last year! In 22 cal💥💪💪💪🎯🤣👍

[@clearedhot7030]

I just learned something. I never would have guessed groundhogs can climb trees.

[@taggartlittle570]

I hunt them all the time and never knew that either!!

[@ENOCH9MM-vl2bm]

They’re the largest in the squirrel family.

[@Outwest55]

Man I love you’re hunting videos maybe the best ones on KZbin.

[@tony-xc1nx]

i swear. you never miss. you are a great shot no matter how far

[@NickSchoonwinkel]

He edited the video and dont show the shot's he did missed

[@user-hm6sd7kt8l]

This is a really cool video to compare these guns

[@jerrykmack3074]

There are much better videos out there. The youngster narrating the video lacked knowledge and experience, and If you want surer kills with pellets, use "Hades" JSB's. Very impressive expansion, very accurate, and same size weight as what he was shooting.

[@inespuckolajh1369]

more 30. cal air rifle hunting

[@inespuckolajh1369]

or even .22 air pistol

[@krisley5178]

With the M3, you could also move up to the hollow points or expanding pellets. They are great for hunting.

[@lisapotter3052]

Why the hell you think you can just go out and kill sparrows and starlings like that?; are they considered pests in the US or do you just kill animals for fun or YT-likes ? In my country Sparrows are an endangered/protected species.

[@Thegoofyairgunner]

Another good video! You need to check out the Vulcan v3 if you really want to compare.22 to .22 ! I’m shooting 40g slugs at 1030fps and making serious power with crazy good accuracy!

[@blockethoutdoors]

I've heard good things about the Vulcans. Were you able to get that power right out of the box? To get that power out of a .22 FX you'd need to buy a slug kit.

[@Thegoofyairgunner]

@@blockethoutdoors mine is from talon tunes and you can order it how you want. But everything is easily adjustable and you can get crazy performance with the stock configuration! I have a couple badly made videos on my channel showing off what it’s capable of. You can go from 18g pellets to 45g slugs without buying anything. And the best regulator on the market.

[@Drlaserzz]

Also since you keep the fx within 70 yards mostly tune it for the fx hybrids. Fast as possible while still accurate. Waay more thump and energy transfer. Generally somewhere in the 900s as far as a good reference for velocity

[@edits.bro-]

Привет товарищ стрелок, попрактикуйся в стрельбе. Я сам из России и владею винтовкой Alpha Doberman в калибре 6.35 на ваш .25 если не ошибаюсь, так вот работает он по дичи на ура от самых мелких крыс до косуль, в среднем дистанция 70-75 метров, но есть выстрелы и на сотню и советую использовать JSB Slug тогда проблем не будет, хорошей охоты!)

[@bommert3816]

My FX Panthera in .22 shoot slugs great, but I gotta put it over a chrono every time before I go hunt.

[@mikewhitman745]

Is it because it's that inconsistent? Do you need to re zero it also?

[@bommert3816]

@@mikewhitman745 weather changes effect the panthera/dynamic line quite a bit. I’ll have to play with the adjustment wheel a little to get the optimal speed. Typically don’t need to re zero once I get the right speed. The FX M3 just isn’t good for heavy slugs IMO. They get really hold sensitive pushing a lot of power.

[@bowopt]

I found your comment about slugs change their groupings all the time interesting. I experience the same thing. Anyone else?

[@louisaziz1235]

Just found your channel. Good comparison on the pellet and long rifle. I think that it could be a closer contest if you shot a .22CB against the pellet. The CB, though still heavier, is much lighter than the long rifle. I use the. 22CB's when rabbit and squirrel hunting in the country, and a .177 1200fps when around any dwellings. Especially starlings and house sparrows in my back bird feeders. Lots of fun and a great, cheap way for a lover of the outdoors to keep his seventy-five year old scope eye in tune.

[@Hook-set_Outdoors]

Man you have all this money and buy all these guns but don't know jack about them. You legit need to put the time and research into a gun before you make a video on it. FX sells slug liners for a reason.. because their normal liners are a slower twist rate, they dont do well with slugs, especially heavier slugs. I think you are a very bright young man and have a great channel and good content, but learning all the ins and outs of a specific airgun before you make a video of it would make your channel even better. Not just for your own knowledge, but so you can pass that knowledge on to the viewer that may be considering a certain gun you use in one of your videos. No disrespect meant, just a little constructive criticism.

[@kendallh9106]

I was looking for this comment. I agree.

[@blockethoutdoors]

I was shooting with a slug liner when I was trying to tune for slugs. For guns like that I do spend a lot of time learning them before doing any filming. My experience trying to get FX rifles to consistently shoot slugs accurately has been horrible though. I know how to tune one to shoot slugs accurately but that accuracy only lasts about one magazine before the groups open up. And I've seen other people have the same problem. FX rifles are the only "slug guns" I have tried so far. I plan on trying some other brands in the future that claim they can shoot slugs accurately.

[@tracyr5594]

@@blockethoutdoors try to get edgun west to sponsor you :)

[@scinner28]

@@blockethoutdoors yeah so treu ..i had the same problem .1 mag and then ow boy ..bye 2200 euro gun .. i thought it was me .Then i grab back to my snowpeak m25.. .25 cal with huma reg etc polish this polish that . (450 euro's with reg) and it outshoot my very expensive gun at 50 .???I grab my 450 euro gun to hunt at 50 meters .Hours of work to polish etc trigger /crown etc ..But it shoots better then my FX 2200 euro gun?at 50 ..i dunno 100 TBH ...But still.

[@tracyr5594]

i think within 50-60yards id stick with the pcp over the .22 lr

[@MrFowl]

For the price (especially ammo price), the PCP is pretty amazing

[@EDCandLace]

Energy is energy.. 22 subs at 40 grains at 980-1000fps is no different than a 40 grain 22 slug at the same velocity. The energy at target will be about the same as well because the BC will be basically identical. The soft pure lead slugs we have in the pcp world are damn devastating at around 1000fps on shots 100y and in. The energy transfer on those slugs is much higher than it is on much harder 23 lr slugs not to mention the airgun slugs have a much larger hollow point and cavity. Some of the griffin slugs I have leaving at around 75ftlbs and reaching the target at 60-65ftlbs on short shots... those slugs will not pass thru a Grey squirrel on a heart lung shot. It's amazing the sound they make on flesh is nuts. That instant energy transfer is nasty. On birds it literally sounds like a fire cracker going off.

[@henryhatfield74]

Shooting above the horizon is bad ju-ju . Where did your projectile land ???

[@davidharrison6166]

@blockethoutdoors This was an unfair comparison as you did not tune your FX M3 to shoot higher grain slugs at higher velocities. I have an M3 22 cal, and I have it tuned to shoot 38gr slugs at roughly 1000fps which is 80 plus Ft/lbs of energy. I can guarantee the FX will put down those ground hogs very easy, I hunted coyotes with no issues. Love the work but tune your FX for the job and move to slugs, you will be amazed what you can hunt.

[@nickhutchins6360]

he just made a video doing exactly that i think he read ur comment

[@tomaspinheiro9068]

If your airgun is doing those bad groups a day after you tune it, that's probably a regulator problem, if you buy a digital one you can track those alterations e maybe know if you have a leak! Keep up the good work, nice videos!

[@hillbilly4christ638]

They make birdshot loads for .22. I used to use them years ago. They are effective. Some manufacturers made smoothbore guns to handle these rounds. You can use a rifled bore, but the results are better with smoothbore.

[@NickSchoonwinkel]

AMMO 22 LR CCI SNAKE SHOT

[@Islandguy2010]

Dude your groundhogs are evolving to treehogs if I where you I’d keep an eye out for some with wings in the silos

[@gurmindersingh2379]

Good comparison. But why are you killing harmless innocent birds. Have some respect for life. Shame

[@scinner28]

Very nice clip .in the netherlands we only can shoot pcp none FAC (all pcp rifle free)no powder in nl ..So i like this clip allot ..👍

[@CatFarmAgriculture]

Your hunting skills are extraordinary. You've proven yourself to be an outstanding hunter.

[@Livekill123]

Bro has spent almost 100.000 dollars on guns☠️

[@Mariuszblotnik]

I really like watching your videos :)

[@DokkanUniverse]

Did you have the fx turned up full power with solid slugs just a strong as long rifle

[@user-hm7kv9sk1j]

True

[@SaidxEditsYT]

Hey Blocketh idk much about guns but I know that to shoot the slugs you need a slug liner or something like that.

[@blockethoutdoors]

I had a slug liner in when tuning for slugs. Swapped it back out for the pellet liner for the video

[@SaidxEditsYT]

@@blockethoutdoors Hi ty for responding I’m a huge fan! Hey btw can you go back to posting slingshot videos? I miss the old days when u used to go slingshot hunting.

[@preacherF-15]

I'm a 60 year old Texan, a lifelong hunter, ex military and police. I don't think posting videos of yourself killing every animal that walks or flies by is a great idea. We already have so many groups that are anti hunting and anti gun, trying to take these things away from us... Then they tune into KZbin to find some kid shooting every ground squirrel and songbird that wanders by. I know starlings are an invasive species that cause damage, etc etc... but even knowing that, it's a hard sell, watching your videos, to say you're protecting ... Anything. I don't care how many starlings you shoot, but I do care about hunting rights, and even more about gun rights. I think you're damaging both . Yes, it's silly, I agree... But everything the left does is silly, but that doesn't seem to bother them.

[@reesemoore5703]

Be quiet bro

[@user-sv7py4gw7f]

Make some hunting video with camo swarm Magnum igt 10x gen 2😊😊

[@ColinH.Outdoors]

yess i was thinking the same thing

[@AM-hs4bz]

Not a fair comparison at all because you didn’t use a slug in the PCP , the fx could shoot heavy slug or at least 34 grain and even more with speed up to 1000fps

[@rachelking3392]

Definitely a 22 long rifle!

[@hectoralonsomedina5960]

Make a video of a hatsan blitz hunting groundhogs with the full auto

[@uhclem]

I hit a sparrow at about 10 yards with .30 cal FX and it exploded!

[@Paul-tq3vw]

That’s a great video on pest control as well as comparing the 22LR & PCP. You can tune your m3 with 34 to 40 gr slugs and can generate “almost” same FPE as your 22LR with pinpoint accuracy.

[@Oregon-airguns]

Never miss a video! Well done as always. I sold my maverick because I had same issues. Got tired of resighting it in every other day!!! Well that and it constantly had issues… however, once I switched over to the Vulcan 3 I’d never go back to fx. Not in a million years.

[@Biffo1262]

FX one of the best airguns in the market? I've worked on some dogs right of the box. They aren't consistently good. Many require somee work from the off. There are better rifles.

[@cg1288]

It's been a while since I bought .22 ammo, but I think you missed the point of owning a .22. They are supposed to be cheap to shoot. As for hunting, it's usually under 75 yards, so you don't need to shoot Olympic grade ammo. $16.00 for 50 rounds!

[@sebastian_hakansson78]

You should try "cb-long" in 22LR.. Lighter and slower for close range, nearly silent to.

[@Michael_X313]

Beyond 100yrds with 22 one should use subsonic rounds because like air rifles...950fps is the optimal velocity. Once your straddling and breaking sound barrier your spinning lead is going to develop a swirling tendency from changes in the airs pressure (wind).

[@chrisparker9886]

You should get a Vudoo and test it against the Anschutz! 😁

[@coryb6722]

Are you paying for the rifles?

[@chrisparker9886]

@@coryb6722 If he can afford to buy a 1710 and throw away thousands on cheap junk, he can afford a Vudoo! 🥴

[@Chris-ij7ln]

Love the content please do a sig Sauer mcx 177 review 🎉😂🎉

[@mahbuddykeith1124]

What’s the volume difference on those rifles? I’m looking for something to control pests without alarming the neighbours.

[@Drlaserzz]

I wish i could teach my dawg about these airguns. Kinda remind of me of a american AirairmsSA. Great vids

[@Sasquatchflow]

Great video but I gotta tell I live in Canada and that’s the first time I’d heard of a groundhog climbing a tree!!! lol wouldn’t have believed it if I didn’t see it in this video! 😂 as far as Ik they do t do that hear.

[@Michael_X313]

Regarding the patterns opening up with slugs on different days... I bet it has to do with air pressure and atmosphere and is similar the effect of shooting cold bore vs warm. Its just that certain days allow for more humidity inside the barrel.

[@pastorczo13]

Hunting with air rifles for me, simply because of the amount of concussions i have had. Loud noises = massive headache

[@williamlewis2896]

You need to talk to Utah airguns that's all they kill out to 250 yards

[@Bill-eq1mv]

Thank you for making another video

[@rolandomartinez9299]

U should get a “ aea challenger pro lb in 30-35 cal it makes anywhere from 150-190 fpe 🙏🏽

[@rolandomartinez9299]

And after get a “aea element max in 45 cal” and there are sum rounds u can find that have a steel tip so basically ap round lol

[@user-cs7wg1in1y]

Sir your videos are too late and love ❤ from Nepal 🇳🇵

[@hamster2845]

They're both high pressure air rifles. How they get the pressurized air is the only difference.

[@tankmeister8131]

I think you under rate that pcp, Matt Dubbins and many others have taken bigger game at longer distances

[@giancalisthenics1845]

Ti dico la mia esperienza personale: uso un AGT Vulcan 3 Cal 5.5 (22) provato e testato con numerosi tipi di slugs, Zan ,jsb, h&n ecc.. gli unici con cui mi trovo bene e che attualmente uso sono gli H&N 218 (massima espansione) da 40 grani (2.59 grammi) sparati alla velocità di 1080/1100 FPS con una accuratezza e precisione eccezionale, anche a distanze considerevoli 200/300 metri. Giusto un paio di giorni fa ho abbattuto un cinghiale di 100kg circa, alla distanza di 100 metri, con un unico colpo alla testa. Senza nulla togliere all FX (perché penso che anche lui possa raggiungere queste performance) potrei spingere anche di più col Vulcan con qualche accortezza e modifica.., arrivando a toccare i 160 joule(cosa che ho già provato). Mantenendo sempre la stessa precisione e accuratezza, nei tiri a media/lunga distanza, ma per ora va bene così per me. Quindi per fare un paragone con un pcp e un 22 lr, bisognerebbe farlo in modo corretto

[@lukezell4922]

Awesome video Blocketh!

[@user-cs1ne8gx9u]

Have you ever tried CCI 22 quite? Basically 40 grain at 800fps. Kinda a happy medium.

[@canxhn]

ur hunting videos make me want to go hunt too lol cant though, airgun rifles are too expensive for me

[@brianfoley2952]

I like how he said that he would risk shooting 22lr in to air becaude of where it ends up but yet he shoots over the berm and in to the trees 😂😂😂

[@Ameirs]

slugs work perfectly with FX you need to make adjstment around 900 fps

[@LifeMyWay007]

QQQ - What Ballistics Calculator are you using for Air Gun holds?

[@Liam-ql7tr]

I never seen a ground log in a tree ever! Lol

[@mrbatting4th]

I love your disc golf rear bag! Haha, shooting and disc golf are my favorite activities 😂

[@anthonygillespie7233]

My friend, I would suggest you use hollow point pellets or slugs and see the difference when you shoot a pest animal. Also 950 fps is not the max for an FX Impact in 22 cal. I have a FX Crown that will spit 18 grains @ 975 fps and thats with a 380 barrel. I also own a Impact in 25 and 30 cal and I can shoot pellets or slugs at sub sonic speeds. I also have a sidewinder in 25 cal that will push 48 grain slugs at 900 fps and thats without even close to being maxed out. Not trying to rain on your videos, I'm just telling you what these guns are capable of if tuned properly. I wish I could give you some subsonic numbers but then they might come knocking on my door. lol

[@Jayface2141]

You ever think of trying edgun Leshy air rifles? They look good enough for groundhogs

[@mvdv6121]

The FX M3 is a slug gun, not a pellet gun. Get hold of some H&N 27, 30 and 40 grainers, get the gun set up right, and you will retract your stated perceptions on the PCP vs LR performance. Would love to see you revisit this test with the correct ammo.

[@dustyjoe45auto]

Nice ! Id like to see how they compare across the price range.

[@gboutdoors5198]

Hey blocketh love your videos happy shooting! that M3 looks sick Id love to see maybe like iguana hunting

[@user-wr5mb8ph3p]

A groundhog in a tree? Never in my life have I seen that!

[@rickbreze7469]

Curious how much cost to buy & outfit each rifle?

[@gingersnap7793]

That impact will do 150 yards np if its set up for it

[@notshared4072]

PCP vs shotgun would be interesting, as I believe there are locales in the US where hunting with rifles is prohibited.

[@heathhalfhill6401]

Sorry for the second comment but use heavier pellets or slugs in that M3 bro. I would use 30-40 grain slugs and you will get the same accuracy at 100 yards as your .22LR bud. And the best part is that they are more affordable, just as accurate, and super quiet.

[@cliffb.2416]

Both are tools for specific purposes! I'm sure the 2nd ground hog pulled the 1st one in the hole. If your shot on the 2nd one was 1/4" to the right out would have been dead on the spot. It's dead, just not right there. Keep the videos coming. I enjoy them. Maybe toss out cut up apples to get them out a tiny bit more to get better kill shots.

[@Samokse]

wat the hell that air rifle can looks like it can litteraly shoot down a whole deer

[@ShadowCalvin]

nice i have both

[@a1locc25]

$1200 scopes on each wtf baller

[@frankiemagana8216]

Not a fair comparison, taking into account that the m3 is probably around 4 thousand dollars how its set up

[@WilliamZona-iy5ko]

I like 22 better

[@magnum3740]

Could you make comparisons test between these two rifles on speed of the pellet and bullet of .22cal. in (feet /second)

[@Gav_theHunter]

Hey, if you don’t mind me asking, where do you get your pcp air rifles?

[@supergreatairgunreviews]

Using frisbee golf discs as a rest is the most Ohio thing ever 😆

[@guillermocruz1015]

Big fun from the philippines..love all your air riffle.i wish i can have 1😊😊BTOD

[@Backyard_ShootingAA]

I love your rest! Beautiful group! I can't wait to go p dawg hunting!

[@user-nh8mq5in4s]

Haven't watched the video yet. But this should be a blast !!!!

[@user-dj4ee1xi5s]

So you shoot for group on a target that has previous holes shot in in it ? I would have scrolled earlier if not commenting but really nice footwear.

[@Sava.S]

Accuracy of that airgun is insane

[@lmmarshall]

Maybe you should team up with Kendal Gray for a video.

[@sneakohub7]

We need more trapping videos