22 Creedmoor vs 22 ARC

In this video I compare two new Hornady cartridges. 22 Creedmoor vs 22 ARC. Which 22 cartridge is the best one? Let's find out!

[@galenpedersen4755]

Bolt gun - 22 Creed AR - 22 ARC

[@jacktrout5807]

Pretty much my plan. Might do an ar10 upper in 22 creed just for fun.

[@diggernash1]

Exactly.

[@rickschwertner282]

My thoughts too

[@novicereloader]

Correct! The ARC is designed to fit into an AR15 mag. If you're running a gas gun, it's the obvious choice. If you're running a bolt gun, different story.

[@AutopilotAndChill]

Reports from shooters who shoot a lot say ARC breaks bolts much quicker than the standard bolt face. Now in a bolt gun you have a bigger bolt with more support so it can handle higher round counts.

[@stevehopsoniii594]

Awesome info on the two cartridges thank you and I Just picked up a 22 bleedmoor 24in barrel in 6.5 twist and I can’t wait to get started on the build

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Have fun!

[@stevehopsoniii594]

Thank you

[@Westerner_]

Definitely of all the Creedmoor’s it’s the biggest improvement over legacy offerings. 308/260 v 6.5, 243 v 6, 22-250 v 22 creed. IMO all the big 22’s are barrel burners so that’s nothing new. If I was heavily invested in 22-250 I probably wouldn’t run out to buy one though.

[@dennissheehan7930]

I personally dont worry about barrel life. Barrels are a consumable part. Folks who shoot alot understand. Most of the time the folks complaining about barrel life never shot enough to come close to wearing out one barrel. In todays world buying a chambered prefit is easy than ever. Just make sure you have a vetted smith do the work and have a solid action.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

I obviously don't care either having multiple Weatherby rifles.

[@mrjeffjob]

You don’t need a gunsmith if you have a precision action and a prefit. Barrel vice and go gage-done. And yes. Barrels are like brake pads and disposable razors. Whoever says barrel burner has probably never replaced one since they think it’s so unthinkable.

[@kochj0713]

Amen brother most people are never going to shoot over 300 or 400 rounds on their 22 Creedmoor let alone 1100!

[@AlaskanBallistics]

If you read at all the .22 creedmoor exceeds the .22-250, the .22 ARC does not even come close with a 62gr bullet at 3300 instead of the 3600+ that I get

[@ronlowney4700]

🤭 But, My 270 Winchester Gets 3,800 ft/s With the Same Weight Bullet (80 grains) That the 0.22 Creedmore Box Says That It Gets Less Than 3,300 ft/s! So, What's the Big Deal? You Should Have Just Stuck With Your 270! 🤣🤣🤣

[@jacktrout5807]

​​@@ronlowney4700 cmon ron you know that 80 grain .277 is going to have a bc @ .250 😅 Plus "fur"........

[@ronlowney4700]

🤪 Is the 22 Creedmore Going to Be Your New 1/2 Mile Elk Gun? 🤣

[@jacktrout5807]

@@ronlowney4700 no and the 270 isn't yours either !

[@ronlowney4700]

🤪 I Own Several? 🤷‍♂️

[@jeremyschmidt4449]

I'm looking for a light weight, small frame AR10 in 22 creedmoor, any suggestions??

[@justahologram2230]

I'm curious what one of those eld-vts or a vmax could do getting really driven by .22 Creed, anything over 4k fps can hit well above weight class

[@drdes9609]

Ruger gen 2 is going to be in 22 arc and not the 22 creedmoor which I find very interesting. You’re absolutely right Hornady isn’t supporting it at all. I agree with you I’d rather have the 22 creedmoor than the 22arc, if I’m going with a high bc 22 then push it as fast as you can. Recoil really isn’t an issue.

[@thelittledetailscr7231]

Stoked for this one.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Sweet!

[@jimyeats]

I think Hornady is just focusing on the gas gun segment more. It’s harder to make a cartridge that fits in a standard size AR15 platform than it is a bolt gun. The AR is also the most popular gun in the US. I mean, I jumped on the 6Arc train for sure. I’ve got a 12.5” 6Arc on an SBR lower that out performs a 77gr 223 from an 18” barrel, while still having a larger frontal surface area. It’s become my do it all rifle, anything from varmint, deer, long range, exc.

[@bobborlog1677]

6 max or a 22 max might be the best gas gun cartridge. That 350 legend case gives alot of potential

[@rubberduck2856]

For that 22CM I’m waiting for a manufacturer to make a bolt gun

[@williamcrist1887]

There are lots of them out they that will do it . Your more factory guns will be the Horizon

[@rubberduck2856]

@@williamcrist1887 yep but the price is what kills me

[@gregbacon819]

It really comes down to marketing and volume. They are going after the volume with the 22 ARC. There are very likely way more AR15 rifles than there ever will be AR10 and 22CM bolt rifles COMBINED. High volume gives a company profit. From a marketing standpoint, they must focus on only ONE new 22 cartridge. They are picking the high volume 22 ARC. It’s just smart business.

[@seetownwv]

Considering the difference in energy between the Creedmoor an ARC to me comes down to do you want to use an AR15 or a bolt gun. An if you reload you can get way better velocity than what Hornaday has on the box. Getting 3500 with 75 ELDM over Varget an actually backed it down a little to account for speed up if any. Will i probably end up with an ARC upper most likely. Will i use it over my creedmoor heck no...lol

[@melectrician]

For a while I was (and still kind of) thinking getting a custom 22 barrel in a 1:7 or so twist and chamber it to the 22-250 AI and run it in prs. At the time bullet companies where making the heavier bullets for the valkyrie and the .22 nobler. I instead built a .243 30imp that gets me more speed than the 6 cm with longer barrel life and the 108 higher bc bullets.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Good choice

[@douglasalcorn8627]

The 6.5×55 swiss outperforms all modern 6.5s with no throat or barrel erosion concerns. USMC experimented with. 223 in 90gr bullets long range deadly. Regardless of caliber 3000fps is sweet spot for barrel integrity.

[@williamcrist1887]

I have been running the 22 Creedmore for about 2 years now maybe a little more Put over 1000 rounds through it. And yes I started off necking down 6mmCM Lapua brass to 22CM. Now with Peterson and AD making quality brass it’s really makes it nice. I think one difference at least for me is I run heavier bullets through my 22CM. Where I think the Arc is probably for the folks in the middle not as heavy bullets as well using the Arc in auto guns. No question about it both with have their place and both will do what you want them to do.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Thanks for sharing!

[@DG2244]

When Hornady decides to get 100% behind a cartridge it really takes off. The 22 ARC is the next super cartridge no doubt. Hornady is making brass, dies, cartridge gauges and load data for the 22 ARC and will supply tech support. The 62 grain ELD-VT should be a great combination for this cartridge and I see on Ruger's web site they will be releasing an American in 22 ARC. The future looks very bright for the 22 ARC.

[@blueeyeddevil1]

The problem is, they don't always get 100% behind them, precisely because they are busy churning out the "next big thing," which they may or may not get 100% behind. I dig innovation, but you have to support what you come up with if the demand is there or seems like it will be. One thing is certain; if you don't properly support the cartridge, it definitely can't grow in popularity. They release five different cartridges in rapid succession and fully support maybe two of them once everyone commits and buys a barrel or rifle so chambered. How about just releasing those two and spending some of the money saved on fully supporting them?

[@ronjones1414]

​@blueeyeddevil1 Doing that doesn't make money, and the purpose of a business is to make money. Releasing 5 cartridges at the same time allows market signals, which take huge amounts of data to ascertain, to come to light allowing the manufacturer to give the market what it wants. There isn't anything else to understand.

[@blueeyeddevil1]

@@ronjones1414 Money initially devoted to cartridges that aren't supported and consequently don't take off--despite obvious demand--amounts to a loss of profits because time, energy, and resources were dumped into them during the development (design, testing, tooling, manufacturing, marketing etc.) phases. One of the most critical parts of a cartridge's success, after you've generated demand, is supply sufficient to meet or exceed the growing demand. Demand doesn't grow in a vacuum. If you want a cartridge to take off, assuming you've done your marketing research and you have a viable design, you have to push it AND back it up with production. With too many irons in the fire that becomes impossible, and you essentially condemn your otherwise successful product to failure. It's called "overextension." Hornady is typically good at design and the initial-push marketing , but they often drop the ball when it comes to production support. 6 ARC is a great example. Demand was there and rifle and barrel manufacturers jumped on board early, but the ammo and brass (of which, to this day, only Hornady and Starline are producers, despite the cartridge being SAMMI approved going on 4 years now) never ramped up sufficiently to grow the cartridge. There were other factors as well, as there always are, but it's still a cartridge that no one is thinking about getting into anymore at this point. They've learned their lesson. The purpose of a business is to maximize profit, and to continue to do so. Simply making a nickel for every $10 you put out isn't a particularly good business model. Reductions in costs factor heavily into a given business's bottom line, and effectively amount to profit. And in case you haven't been paying attention, there are many people who are tired of the "cartridge of the week" from Hornady, particularly when they can't get ammo or brass for the last cartridge Hornady pushed and then decided to sandbag. That's called "backlash." There isn't anything else to understand.

[@blueeyeddevil1]

​@@ronjones1414 The purpose of a business is to maximize profit. And part of that is reducing costs. Devoting appreciable resources to cartridges that you later choose to sandbag, despite their popularity, precisely because you are overextended and can't keep up on the production side, is risky. It's essentially a battle between the marketing and design sides and the production side, and Hornady tends to favor the former. In the aforementioned example, Hornady may generate 5 cartridges and effectively support the most popular 3, all but abandoning the less popular (though still viable) 2, because they can't sufficiently support all 5 of them. They're overextended on the production side. And while that (obviously) can be profitable, it can also generate backlash and disappointment in the consumer base. Your pseudo-marketing babble made me laugh, though, so points for that. Apparently there IS something else to learn, to wit: no business in any industry devotes the significant resources necessary to bring a product to market for the purpose of generating "market signals" to gauge whether that product will sink or swim. That's what early market research is for.

[@ronjones1414]

@blueeyeddevil1 your correct, they do this over and over because it keeps losing them money. Thank you for the education. Hopefully, their marketing executives will reach out to you.

[@Lee-jn8zu]

So what are the bullet weights you can run on each?

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

35-90 gr

[@Greyzonecompliant]

The difference in volume of shooting (ammo sales) a 22arc in a fast Gun vs 22 creedmoor in a bolt action will be noticable. It is understandable that Hornady promotes the best earner. They both are nice improvements on the lineup of options. But i dont think that the 22 creedmoor needs that much advertisement, it will sell itself in time. And its wise of Hornady not to let it over shadow the smaller brother. When i saw the 22crm my first though was "-Want one". When i saw the 22arc it was "- Ahh clever hope it catches on" Another excellent videos sir 👍 Cheers from Sweden

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Thanks for commenting!

[@MrPiimpslap]

The 22 Arc will do really well because America's rifle is the AR-15.

[@jaybailleaux630]

22s are varmit cartridges . They are fun guns . Low recoil , accurate , and normally fired far more often than standard hunt rifles. I would much perfer the 22 ARC over the 22 Creed for greater barrel life and less cost in powder for hand loading. I would perfer the 6mm versions of both over the 22 versions. Higher bc and bullet weights for deer hunting. Simply greater versatility with the 6mms.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Thanks for commenting

[@Greyzonecompliant]

The most expensive segment of bullets are often the high bc heavies. That makes the 22-250 cheaper than the creedmoor with its simple light bullets. But its range is limited. I find the 6.5 grendel using light for caliber bullets to also be less expensive and not consume a lot of powder.

[@PassivePortfolios]

Highly unlikely that the 22 CM, 22 ARC, and 6 mm CM will knock the 22-250, 223, and 243 from the top in their respective calibers.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Probably not, but I do see them becoming popular

[@rosswitte]

Might want 2 consider comparing 6mm ARC with 6mm MAXX as well.

[@maxsterling290]

Great review and comparison! Also 22 Creed has same rim dia as 6.5 Creed so even makes a gas gun it requires AR10 bolt face/platform, which is too much for a varmint caliber. 22 Creed on bolt gun, however, it's excellent for varmint hunting.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Thanks for watching

[@tripplebeards3427]

I’d like the fastest of the two chambered in super light bolt gun for a walking predator rifle! Like a cz 527 or Howa super lite. Even the new Christensen arms at weighs 4.94 pounds. A nice little lightweight truck gun that shoots flat.

[@jacktrout5807]

The 527 would field the 22arc but not long enough for the creedmoor. I've thought about the same project.

[@Blong243]

It surprises me that the ruger American isn't projected to be chambered in 22 creed, but 22 arc is on the list.

[@GuitarBuilderatbluemoonguitars]

Will the 22 creedmore fit in a ar 15 ! Think that's the point

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

I made that point... if you want a gas gun get a 22 ARC.

[@GuitarBuilderatbluemoonguitars]

Yes you did. Sorry.

[@mariocabella5476]

What about 224 weatherby with 85 grain barnes tsx bt at 3500 fps?

[@Dave-cf2ng]

This is a bit of apples and oranges here. The 22 creed is a magnum by all accounts. The books don’t do it justice, I don’t shoot anything smaller than an 85 grain bullet in mine. I use rl26 and send the Berger 85.5 at 3350. If you look at the 22 Grendel which is what the 22 arc is going to be, it’s not the 6 arc necked down. They will be using a 6.5 Grendel case which is a little different than the arc case it doesn’t compare. You will be lucky to get 2900 out of the big bullets using the Grendel

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Hodgdon data is always a little slow. I did say the 22 ARC is a little different than a 6 ARC

[@Dave-cf2ng]

@@ReloadingWeatherby it’s just Hornady taking what’s there and slapping their name on it. Like they are the leaders in innovation, these cartridges have been around for years.

[@TROOPERfarcry]

I think the 6mm CM is overall better than the 22 CM, if only because all of the hot-and-heavy 22s are going to be very hard on the barrel. The 6mm is just slightly more forgiving for barrel-life.

[@peterlai9018]

What about 22-250 AI Vs 22 Creedmoor?

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

I will have to do a video on it...

[@randylee9095]

Same

[@tyfoster4212]

Can we get a battle of the new 6mms

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Sounds fun

[@6n518]

I don't know how you would even compare these two cartridges. Apples to oranges.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Because multiple people asked for it. Why does it matter?

[@chadillac95]

​@ReloadingWeatherby those people don't understand the vast difference between these 2 rounds

[@marklattimore665]

I bought a Horizon firearms 22 creedmoor Vandel X a few months ago and it shoot 1/4 moa all day long . It's the most accurate gun I own.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Very nice!

[@km6731]

Keep it clean. After about 300 rounds my 6 creed is showing pressure all of a sudden.

[@mainenorthwoodshunter3265]

Sadly Hornady did the same thing with the 6.8 Western and who knows how many other cartridges. With the lack of ammo these days it is sad that one company can control so much innovation because maybe it may compete with something of theirs. Job security for them I guess. Variety used to be the spice of life once upon a time.

[@fattigla]

Hornady made 22 Creedmoor ammunition for Horizon through a special project. Hornady will make a run of a cartridge if a distributor places a big enough order, and they have machines available. I would guess this is a similar arrangement to the 6mm GT ammo that they make for GA precision. They are not promoting it because it is not really their responsibility to. Also, there were problems when developing the ammunition. Mainly, Hornady said they were not able to achieve the velocities that wildcatters were getting, and Horizon admitted that some of the loads they were using was over pressure.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Thanks for sharing!

[@markcarew6724]

I don't know much about the 22 Creedmoor, but the 22 ARC is indistinguishable from the 1970's vintage 22 PPC.

[@barrymoore3206]

It’s completely different, it’s longer at the shoulder than the PPC. It’s simply a necked down 6.5 Grendel. I’ve been shooting the 22 Grendel for several years, the 22 ARC reamer is pretty much identical to the 22 Grendel.

[@cristianespinal9917]

Holy overbore, Batman!

[@kylemartin832]

To my understanding the Achilles heel of the 22CM is the carbon ring. Where modern cartridge/chamber designs have tighter tolerances leading to pressure spikes from these carbon rings. You don't see these spikes so bad in lets say a 22-250. At least thats my guess on why Hornady isn't pushing it. The ARC is more efficient and consistent over time leading to less complaints and negative reviews.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Interesting

[@Patrick-xd8jv]

That’s why you clean them

[@nospam3409]

The 22 crreedmore was designed to shoot heavy per caliber bullets at high valoosities. It's a legitimate +500 yard cartridge. For punching paper, it would be hard to beat at 1000 yards. People who are shooting that far don't generally need more support. Compared to the overall shooting population, it's a small group of people, and Hornady is not going to make much money off of them. That's especially true since those people do not waste their money on Factory ammo or Hornady brass.

[@msb2948]

The answer is an easy one as Hornady has become a totalitarian ammo oligarchy and the 22 ARC is clearly the revenue maker simply based upon the number of the MSR/AR 15 platforms out there, which garantees the end user will naturally utilize much much more ammo volume and in particularly money for the sales only driven Hornady company. I"ll also wager that there may be a military option in the buisiness recipe.

[@km6731]

if you want a shorter bolt gun but still get good speed--22 creed. If you want one gun for night and day hunting 22 arc in an AR.

[@ingelri2]

Maybe I missed it, but did you touch on the fact that the .22 ARC is specifically designed to fit the AR15 platform whereas the .22 CM will not. That's the primary reason .22 CM outperforms the .22 ARC, i.e. longer case, more powder capacity. As far as .22 caliber cartridges in an AR-15, the .22 ARC will be king.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Guess I didn't emphasize the AR part enough

[@ingelri2]

@@ReloadingWeatherby they are both great cartridges. I already have a nice bolt action rifle in 22-250, so the .22 CM doesn't excite me much. Having the .22 ARC to replace my .223 in a scoped AR for varmints and pigs does. I was considering a .224 Valkyrie, then the .22 ARC was announced If I was in the market for a new .22 caliber bolt gun, I may consider the .22 CM there are a lot more available options in .223 and 22-250. Hopefully the firearms manufactures catch up.

[@tacticalmattfoley]

22 Creedmoor ARs exist.....

[@jimyeats]

@@tacticalmattfoley Right, and they are even more finicky than non-308 AR10’s, which are already finicky.

[@robertmajors1737]

Id almost bet money that the lack of marketing for the 22 creed comes down to r&d costs. They probably have very little time and money invested in the 22 creed, and quite a lot tied up in the 22 arc. They want it to be successful to pay back all the costs associated with launching a new cartridge and developing the new bullets for it.

[@user-yo6fz3zi3f]

This seems to be a case just like when Chevrolet wouldn't let Pontiac make a corvette equivalent. And what i mean is with the release of the 22arc they really dont want a competing cartridge to take some of the sales so they wont give the 22 creed much support. In my nobody opinion the 6arc beats both the creed and 22arc. The bc for the 6mm is going to be the same or better, you have within 60flbs of energy of the 22 creed, and im a bolt gun you can do even better.

[@Patrick-xd8jv]

I have a 22” bolt gun and a 22” gas gun in 6 ARC. The 6ARC in my opinion is far better in a bolt gun. For shooting steel, the 6 ARC is probably better, but if I want to put my thermal on and shoot coyotes, I will take the 22ARC with it’s flatter shooting/ higher velocity. The 6ARC will n a Howa Mini sporting a CF stock would be a heck of a white tail and Antelope rifle

[@user-yo6fz3zi3f]

update. For poos and giggles i bout a bolt action in 22 arc. The rifle has a 22in barrel and with the 75-grain stuff from Hornady i am getting just over 3000fps on average. I will be reloading for this cartridge soon to take advantage of the higher pressures that can be done in a bolt gun. My hope is to achieve 3150fps to 3200fps with the 75s and 2950 to 3000fps with the 90s. If i this can be done this rifle will be the new practice/ training rifle for me and the children of the family. Obviously also being used for varmints and maybe even a whitetail if the opportunity presents itself.

[@suzgabverdugo933]

Everyone forgets about the 7mm needsmore (7mm Prc)😂😂😂😂

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

I haven't...

[@rickschwertner282]

Hornady is giving Horizon the responsibilty of marketing and sales just like they do with G.A. precision and the 6GT.

[@basilstaros5730]

Hornady is a business, they need to make money on a variety of products. The .22 creedmoor already has non exclusive brass, dies and alot of load data. The .22 arc is exclusively hornady owned, no one makes dies, load data, ammo or brass but hornady. They've employed this strategy many times in the past, take the .204 ruger they helped launch. Its really no different than a .20 Practical (or a .223 rem necked to .20 cal), but hornady (for basically no reason other than they control the means of brass production) elongates the case, moves the shoulder and makes it so you cant just resize .223/5.56 to make .204 ruger. To this, note the location of the shoulder on the .22 arc (its not just necked down, its pushed forward).

[@Cannonballer95]

The parent case for the 22 arc is the 6.5 grendel, not technically the 6mm arc. The neck is pushed forward on the 22 arc compared to the 6 arc simply because the 6mm high BC bullets they were targeting have long ogives, and to get proper seating in the neck, the cartridge would be too long for the AR with the original 6.5 grendel headspace. That's not a problem with 22 as the highest BC bullets will still engage with the neck with the original grendel headspace, I believe they are the same. I doubt its malicious or to control brass supply, you can simply neck down the already much more available 6.5 grendel brass down to 22 for the arc.

[@SD_HUNTING_FISHING]

Just like lack of support for 6mm Creedmoor, 6 ARC…..

[@FourDRanch]

hornady is probabaly partnerning/splitting profits on the 22 creed and thus, not marketing as much as the 22 arc, which is their own. - just my speculation.

[@texpatriot8462]

As long as Horizon has exclusivity with respect to Hornady and 22CM, Hornady won't be spending marketing $$ on it. They cannot really crank out ammo to all their typical distribution chain.

[@eskimoreloader]

Imagine shooting with Hammer bullets on 22 Creedmoor

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Really fast

[@tacticalmattfoley]

22 Creedmoor wasn't Hornady's idea, so that's why Hornady isn't pushing it. I have a feeling they're paying royalties to someone for every box of 22 Creedmoor sold. Contrast this with the reason 22 Creedmoor was SAMI spec'd in the first place....this cartridge took off in popularity due to field performance. Coyote hunters LOVE this cartridge.

[@RumblestripDotNet]

yep, if they have to pay a vig to someone else, they'd rather focus on other things where they don't have to let others wet their beak.

[@themooreclan1220]

why no 23 creedmoor

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

There isn't a 23 caliber

[@themooreclan1220]

@@ReloadingWeatherby actually, why

[@dennisgray7509]

I’ll keep my 6.5

[@alexandrealain]

25 creedmoor with 130 class bullets.

[@allenkyer1954]

22 creedmoor is a modern 22-250 Ackley improved

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Basically

[@felipemartinez3285]

If you don’t own either one of these how can you truly compare.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Simple... I stayed at a Holiday Inn the other night.

[@beauneo]

The .22 CM just smacks of .220 swift. Barrel burner. Doesn’t do anything a 22-250 doesn’t do. Another hornady answer looking for a question. This will age like milk as will most of their recent offerings. I’ve seen all the WSM’s come and go. The RUM’s. I’d say the 300 PRC is another one that’ll die. The 6mm creedmor seems fine, but has zero chance of toppling the .243. The real questions is how many of these will you be able to buy ammo for in 5 years. I’d bet only a couple. And you’ll be limited on loadings.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Thanks for commenting

[@nicholasbarcomb2324]

Horizon owns the rights to the 22 Creedmoor because they developed it. Hornady doesn't want to pay them anymore royalties than they have to, so.....................that's why they (Hornady) has gotten behind the 22 ARC more. It's their (Hornady) creation.

[@seetownwv]

I emailed Hornady about 22 Creedmoor reloading info an they said since it's exclusively sold through Horizon they did not off any load data. Which I thought was kinda dumb considering you put your name on the box

[@peterschmidt2849]

❤️‍🔥🇺🇸

[@jakeruchti1]

Im so confused on all this. Hornady makes a 22 creed but doesn’t tell anybody then they come out with a 22arc. So no more 6arc what is happening. Hornady needs to slow the hell down.

[@jakeruchti1]

And over it all the 22 creed seems way better

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Hornady didn't release or make the 22 Creedmoor. Horizon did.

[@jakeruchti1]

@@ReloadingWeatherbybut the make ammo for it.

[@aaronunterseher1627]

There approvals vs marketing has always lagged about 1 year behind I bet itll be next years/this years market stick after they milk the 22 arc market

[@kochj0713]

0 seconds ago OK let’s compare your 270 rem my 22 Creedmoor= You have to run almost 70 grains of powder I run almost half that at 40gr. If I run 80 grain eld .224. And you a 6 mm 80 grain at the 400 mark my bullets going 150 FPS faster and our elevation MA holdover is almost identical to your 4.5.. at 600 you’re only doing 1800 ft./s. I’m still doing 2100fps! So the longer you go out to quicker your expensive 270 Remington falls short compared to the 22 Creedmoor 270 Rem= more recoil, more powder, more expensive cases with the same amount of performance as the 1/2 price 22-CM!

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

What on earth is a 270 Remington?

[@ChatGPT1111]

You really should have the items you are talking about before you introduce them. I clicked thinking the thumbnail was the correct cartridge.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

It is the correct cartridge

[@scottyevens3174]

Maybe they don’t own it and have to pay Horizon? Business contracts etc…🤷‍♂️

[@BNU30C]

Of course Hornady won’t push the Creedmoor that everyone likes 😑

[@jjgriffin3275]

2 totally different cartridges, not really apples to apples comparison. the 22 ARC is more compared to 22-250 but out of a AR15. just like the 6ARC is not compared to the 6mm CM. just bc it uses the same bullet doesnt mean they are comparable, just 6.5 CM is not compared to 6.5 grendel. 22 ARC is NOT a 6ARC necked down!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Watch Hornady youtube on the 2ARC you will get all the data and info you need about the 2ARC.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Chill... I said the 6 ARC and 22 ARC are different. It's based off of the 6 ARC with some differences. Are you now the cartridge comparison police? So what if they are different and not Apples to Apples. This was requested by my viewers to compare

[@jjgriffin3275]

@@ReloadingWeatherby you said 22 ARC was necked down 6ARC, no it is not. why chill? im not cart police, if your going to make a video i would assume you would give correct info. i totally understand mis speaking. hornady even compares the 22 arc more so to the 22-250 so why not do a video comparing those 2 instead of why you picked the creed, ok your viewers wanted that comparison, even tho its not apples to apples like 22ARC vs 22-250.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

@@jjgriffin3275 Well nothing gets past you lol. I realized as I was saying it that it isn't a necked down 6 ARC. Hence why I said 22 ARC and 6 ARC has some differences. Sometimes as a content creator you say things wrong. It happens...

[@L0NGRNGE]

Both are for men who carry purses.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Hmm...

[@L0NGRNGE]

@@ReloadingWeatherby Just kidding bro. We've got to poke a little fun at the .22 boys occasionally.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

@@L0NGRNGE I didn't disagree with you

[@user-mp5jg2wl7v]

The 22 Creed more is really a slow round for the 22 world lol

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Yes there are faster 22 calibers