.22 LR Handgun for Self Defense? CCI Stinger Ammo Test

[@pinkysgarage4517]

10 years later, and I'm still coming back to these awesome videos for reference. This channel rocks!

[@GEM850]

I was a paramedic for 18 years. 8 of those on a Life Flight helicopter. I’ve seen a multitude of gsw’s. I can tell you this: you don’t want to get shot period. Bullets do strange things due to thickness of clothing, angle of the shooter, and ricochets off of bones. Some of the most gruesome and bloody gsw’s I responded to were from .22’s. Most were fatal.

[@sether_ton]

Sorry for replying to such an old comment, but I’ve been wondering about this for a bit. How does the ems/emergency room actually tell which caliber caused a GSW? Obviously it’s easy if the bullet was found intact in the wound, but it’s my understanding that hollow points tend to deform and/or fragment quite a bit when subjected to the irregular densities of human tissue, and fmj rounds tend to penetrate straight through. Please don’t take offense, I’m genuinely curious if there’s a method used to determine the cause of a GSW when the projectile is missing/deformed.

[@thatoneguy3590]

@@sether_ton I’m guessing it’s the police detectives who find out all that stuff somehow

[@davidrangel9179]

Many times the gun is still onscene. Sometime the bullet is still inside the body cavity. Most of the time the caliber is unknown, unless it's a shotgun blast.

[@allen4758]

I once shot a deer with a 22 Ruger revolver at 25yards , I was aiming at the head , but being the awesome shooter that I was at 16 years old I hit it right in the gut , it ran 30 yards and fell dead .

[@ironjohn5914]

.22lr is no joke, just as deadly as a .45acp or .357 magnum.

[@charlesmarshall2697]

I've stopped carrying my 9 MM and started carrying 22 auto pistols and 22 Magnum auto pistols. Great penetration and rapid accurate shots made me change. Another important factor is Cheap ammo allows for lots of practice.

[@menomisespeanut]

My first handgun is a Taurus TX-22. I love it. Holds 16 rounds, and wherever I point, I make contact. Ballistics is important, but aiming is critical and since I don't go to the range often, nor have the money to buy ammo like that, I'll stick with my 22 any day of the week.

[@paulojorgemachado5116]

@@menomisespeanut you are wright. 22 lr is good for self defense ( my personal opinion) I know there will be people creticizing but is possible to aim and place more shots in less time and this is very important if we are dealing with multiple attackers, we have more chance to get out of a situation. The saying "stopping power" is controversial and no one is going to stop after getting shot and say is a 22, I will be fine! Just people with powerful drugs in the system if the shoot is in a leg or arm maybe they will don't fell the pain and continue walking but, if the shoot is in the head, they will drop dead before they realize they are actually dead. Is possible to kill a cow with a single shoot in the head and the bone tissue is thicker than the human one. Also if it is in. the chest ( heart) the result is the same. I prefer ,22 less expensive for training, very light guns, and less dangerous because of over penetration like comparing with 9 mm, and the shoots are more precise.

[@menomisespeanut]

@@paulojorgemachado5116 hell yeah

[@ooigfgnnkhjjnc]

Only good in a revolver.

[@islandon22]

I keep a .22lr rifle by the bed. My wife keeps a .22lr TX Taurus bedside too. Both are loaded with CCI VELOCITOR rounds. We don't plan on killing our next door condo neighbor with a stray .38/.357 Mag, or a 9mm. Besides not too many intruders will stick around with a .22lr burning through them at 1435 fps from my rifle, or about 1200fps out of her pistol...and followed by a dozen more almost instantly.

[@holmesfamily2058]

We keep a Ruger 10-22 loaded with a 25 shot magazine, for the first line of household defense. Living on acreage behind closed gates, four legged critters are more a threat than the two legged ones, and as such the little Ruger 10-22 loaded with CCI Stingers is an excellent go to.

[@bobsilver3983]

Any gun in the hands of a good person is the right caliber.

[@johndillard8588]

Any firearm is better than no firearm.

[@1Skeptik1]

@Calvin What % of failures are we talking about? I shot .22s over 50 years and guessing well under 1% misfires. (I shot thousands of rounds competition.)

[@commoguy25q]

@@1Skeptik1 there is a video by Paul Harrell where he shoots 1,000 rounds from various rifles & pistols. He had 6 failures. So we can estimate the average failure rate is .06%

[@1Skeptik1]

@@commoguy25q Thanks, good information. When I shot competition (slow, timed and rapid fire) 60 round drill with 10 guys on the firing line misfires happened very rarely. We shot high Standards and Smith 41 and a few Browning Medalists. Personally, I would not hesitate to "carry" my 4" Buckmark and I own a Colt Trooper .357 - both spot on accurate. Cheers!

[@pcmountaindog]

@Calvin I have been through a few thousand rounds of .22LR in the past few month at the range. CZ rifle, GSG 1911. 1 and I repeat only 1 failure to fire and I'm talking about bulk, cheap stuff, not CCI. 22 is more then up to the task.

[@PaulHarrell]

I shot stingers out of a revolver with a 4" barrel and got very good expansion when shooting water jugs at 20 yards. That you got none with a 3.75" auto in ballistic gel when firing from 10 feet is surprising.

[@terrencewrigley8860]

i loved the ribs and oranges test. the fleece bullet stop was gold. interesting how you had different results with about the same barrel length. the two test were a little different so im a little curious if it was the gun or the test medium that gave you better expansion.

[@Haliboldt]

Water slows the bullet faster, creating expansion.

[@MLDRBRY]

erozpl01 A human body is mostly water.

[@spacerconrad]

Mostly, but not all. Ballistics gel is supposed to more closely resemble flesh. Plain water is very "hard" and incompressible, which is why it causes expansion so easily. Add the various ingredients that make us... us, and you get a squishy mass that may be mostly water, but has different ballistic properties.

[@graff5274]

The gell is to thin, not dense enough to even be comparing to a persons body. The body is mostly water but the consitancy and layout of a body is NOTHING like water......lol

[@homunculusprime647]

Despite failing to expand I was actually quite impressed by the balistics. That level of penetration and those wound channels are nothing to scoff at.

[@bonsaipiper3773]

Yep. They ain't our grandfather's .22lr anymore.

[@joedavis6821]

😢😢🎉

[@jeffmyers2945]

First of all, do not listen to posters lime Brent Miller! Take your 22 and shoot it through a road sign, and then ask yourself if it would fail to penetrate a few layers of a leather jacket...complete crap, folks. As a former Indy cop, I can simply tell you that a 22 will kill you, muscles and leather and all. Bigger is not always better. Shot placement! I repeat: shot placement .

[@mikkirurk1]

Shot placement it is. Thanks, sir.

[@sonicspeed1720]

assolutamente vero !

[@redzone1019]

Good point.

[@cwheels01]

Cops also miss 80% of their shots. Not ragging on the police, but it's usually not as simple as that. Either way, shot placement will get you a lot farther with a more potent caliber.

[@atklm1]

There is a well known incident, where a police officer shot armed attacker 14 times with .45 cal. And 6 of those hit vital points, including liver, both lungs and the upper part of the heart. And he still kept coming and shooting the officer. It's not that much about shot placement, since nobody can't aim to a certain part of vitals, because nobody can't see them. Just a ballpark of where they are located.

[@hawkboy1792]

man this guy rocked when it came to ammo tests. I wish he didn't have to stop making videos permanently :[

[@tnoutdoors9]

Returning to making videos again in 2015.

[@hawkboy1792]

***** YES! THANK YOU! So glad to hear your healthy and available again! :] I'll continue to keep you in my thoughts and prayers :]

[@1diggers1]

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[@reebrooks9696]

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[@heckyes]

***** Yeah, thanks for all you do!

[@Orfmute]

As a retired Peace Officer, my thinking about calibers was very traditional till I purchased a Ruger SR22 pistol at the height of the current ammo shortage and high prices. This firearm has changed my mind about personal defense handguns. I have never been able to do with my 1911, revolvers, or any other medium caliber handgun anything like the shooting I’m doing with the Ruger. At the distances most trouble happens and at the fastest the SR22 permits, I can double tap two to the heart in under 3 inches and then with care aim a head shot within 1 inch of point of aim. All the larger caliber handguns I’ve fired over the years that came anywhere close to that performance have been very tricked out and not practical or reliable for everyday carry. I’ve owned the Ruger for over two years now shooting at least 100 rounds per week. I’ve never had any failure to cycle or fire with Stingers. I have yet to have a gun-part failure. I’m examining the lock work regularly and not seeing much wear of note despite not oiling at every cleaning but nylon brushing the powder residue from mag lips, ramp, and barrel each visit to the range. Between shooting sessions I load 7 or 8 so as to not hold the springs at maximum. I de-cock and carry in condition three as I believe that having a handgun with me and available is a sufficient degree of readiness for my lifestyle. My life’s work gave me very big eyes. Holsters are starting to come onto the market for the Ruger though I had an FBI cant belt holster with thumb break made locally early on. Mostly I like to conceal it in items I everyday carry using a Maxpedition velcro accessory holster - mostly fanny packs and briefcases. I thank the maker of the video for his work which I find well balanced, well produced, and very informative. Good job.

[@bgnekow1]

i realy appreciate when LE reply as they are talking real world experience.thankyou sir

[@Orfmute]

@@bgnekow1 Hey Bob, Thanks for the comment. I wrote my comment above four-years ago. Reading it over, I feel I wouldn't change one word of it. Ruger has come out with the LCP II in .22 lr. I have not fired one yet, but given Ruger's R&D, I'm thinking it might even 'best' the SR 22. Worth a look if you're in the market for such a pocket pistol. Again, Good to hear from you.

[@AmbGun]

I did a video largely inspired by Greg Ellifritz's research. I still have not internalized his and my own argument for the 22. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYOWhXuAjJqmo7M

[@keystonebrotherb]

I have the Sig P322. I load 20 in the 25 round magazines for the same reason. I've never been more accurate with larger rounds. I can triple tap 3 round into a 2 inch group, and double tap a head shot both near the eyes. I use Federal Punch rounds in mine.

[@Freeman1776]

One of the best ammo videos I've seen on KZbin in years. Thanks for taking the time to educate many of us.

[@spiritwalker6153]

I can tell you for certain that the 22 LR will kill. I recently lost my brother to a shot in the chest with 22 caliber handgun. Please do not underestimate the lethal effects of this round.

[@shatner99]

Very sorry to hear about your brother. Take care of your family.

[@asiansrule45]

Rip

[@Me2Lancer]

I lost a classmate to a 22 LR round when he inadvertently discharged a firearm while changing seats in the family vehicle.

[@rwdchannel2901]

@@Me2Lancer Some idiot was telling me on the internet that the .22LR is a BB.

[@Gonken88]

It's pretty ridiculous that people do. The high death rate at virginia tech was partly due to one of the guns being a 22lr.

[@markhenri1131]

There’s a riddle I like... What’s the best gun for self defense? The one you have available.

[@mainevolcanovaporizer4204]

.22 9mm 40. 45

[@liamjoseph3853]

I love my .22. When my buddies give me crap over my .22, I ask them if I can shoot them at 7yds with it. Not one of them will let me, hmmmm

[@lawsonone6015]

@Liam good one. :)

[@alessandromatteo8365]

I've had the same thing happen with a couple of co-workers.... It's funny how they talk crap ... But don't want to eat any....

[@devinsen363]

What about at 8yds? hmmmm

[@evanjameson5437]

hilarious!! Amen Brother!

[@jr1001jr]

I miss this guy's channel/videos. Awesome, data driven content. No super duper uber tacticool crap. No over-the-top fake macho approach. Just a good guy bringing us solid info & allowing us to come to our own conclusions.

[@Rex46947]

One well placed shot with a 22lr is better than 3 miss placed shots from any other gun

[@T-DsGaming]

That can be said for any caliber...

[@Jay1830]

except that its easier to do a good shot placement with a .22lr And I'm a 9mm shooter so i'm not biaised

[@EricSmith-lj7ln]

If I use my 50 BMG and hit your two legs and a arm it's probably better than a 22

[@Deadlyaztec27]

Eric Smith Yeah, but that 50 won't do any good if you miss. Which is his point.

[@kdub9198]

KingLT82 Unless you hit the mark with your first shot of a larger caliber 22lr has the best chance of hitting the mark with each follow up shot. And each shot can be taken quicker smaller the caliber.

[@billwhiteathome2080]

There has always been a .22 handgun on the wife's side of the bed, as that seemed to be the only thing she could use as a tack driver. I'm pleased that she now has a PMR30 that uses the .22 magnum rounds with no loss of accuracy. We're both happy now.

[@majikdragon]

Love my SR22. I am far more comfortable with it than my M&P9. I can accurately place multiple shots quickly where I need more recovery time with the 9. I also get far more practice with the SR because 22 is much more affordable to shoot for fun/practice. I think knowing the gun well and what it can do makes it at least as effective as larger calibers for self defense. If I had to choose one during a self defense situation I would grab which ever is closest!

[@tonyhelton7013]

22s are better self defense weapons than they get credit for.

[@XXLEE211XX]

It's nothing I'm proud to say but anytime i hear people talk crap about 22lr for self defense i just shake my head . My grandpa 17 years ago shot his brother n law 10 times In the stomach with a Glenfield model 60 (22lr) for beating my grandpas sister the man didn't die but he had %75 percent of his intestines took out and is paralysed and peeing and pooping in a bag for the rest of his life. He will never beat another woman. My grandpa got 3 years as never been in trouble. Axton Virgina. 22lr will get the job done !

[@khannooniansingh1360]

How many zombies you get?

[@kellykeefe3610]

Someone with 10 .22's in their face is not going to continue attacking you!

[@awsomesauce03]

i cant think of many wallets that are worth getting tagged in the chest with a .22, their isnt a criminal alive who would continue to chase you with more than one of these in their body.

[@idk-zf1qi]

XXLEE211XX so what you are saying is he got shot 10 times with a 22 and survived. Thats the point im trying to make. 22 absolutely sucks for dropping someone on the spot. You need something that does massive trauma very quickly, a 22 just doesnt cut it. Not saying a 22 isnt lethal because its more than lethal, but i definitely wouldnt choose it for anything other than groundhogs and squirrels

[@sniperdoug1969]

Over the years I have carried lots of different types of pistols. Everything from old school full sized .357 magnums down to a walther p .22. Even with today's ammo shortages I can still afford to shoot my p22 a lot more than my 9mm glock. I would rather have 3 or 4 critical hits with a .22 than 3 misses with my 9mm. Shot placement and practice is everything. If a .22 is all you can hit with than carry a .22. Its still better than nothing, and yes they will stop a threat.

[@jamesswaskoski3735]

Amen dude!!!! 5 stingers straight through prob gonna stop about anyone being able to have a follow up shot and or hit your target in the first place is everything huge caliber without aim is gadbage.... not to mention the objective is to get to safety.. a reliable 22 and reliable ammo like sr 22 and velocitors..!

[@markc1016]

Great to hear you are returning. Hope all is well. You have some of the best videos out there! KZbin is a better place with you in it Brotha!!!

[@muddytigeroutdoors4790]

I personally carry this handgun (Ruger SR22) with this same ammo everyday. I hope and pray that I will never be in a situation where I have to use it for a defensive scenario. I've taken my time to train for gun draw and accuracy. I know how to effectively dump the 10 rd mag at various distances. In my opinion, it's how accurately and effectively you can use such a tool to give you a better chance of success, something that is built with training. Even a bigger caliber gun can be as ineffective as sticking your tongue out to an assailant without proper training. -Jacko

[@v8hotrodlincoln]

MuddyTigerOutdoors I even have also practiced quick draw onto target with .22 I own a Beretta Neos, a SIG .22 both are target pistols also I have a Ruger 1O/22 with extended mag... I also still have the original rotary magazine __. Mine is all wood stock... I have spent countless hours with every firearm I possess to place each round into or as close to the first shot hole... I own at least one of every caliber firearm and tons of different brands... however when I go out to target shoot .... I always have the most fun playing with my .22’s .... they truly are a great little round ... I love my 22’s.

[@johnkelly903]

v8hotrodlincoln

[@freddyflintstoned913]

17 ounces plus ammo,

[@82luft49]

Very in depth video, son. You opened my eyes regarding the lethal stopping power behind the CCI .22 lr Stinger. I guess this will be the self defense round along with the CCI 40 grain Mini Mag HP. The CCI Mini Magis one of the few (if any) bullets that has the ability to "expand" in the body cavity (without exiting) creating a devastating effect. So when I load my magazine, I plan to alternate between both of these cartridges.. I am going to send you another ,22lr 12 minute video on different self defense rounds. Wait until the CCI Mini Mag in tested in comparison to the other tested rounds, then you can get an idea of what I'm referring to. Thanks for keeping your Dad informed.

[@skankhunt-vw8xr]

I sometimes carry the Ruger SR22. It's lethal.

[@royalloyalty8248]

Lol every 22 is!

[@mightza3781]

If everyone remembers how the patrol cop Mark Coates died, shot placement is key. (Video on KZbin) He was shot with a .22lr derringer which his vest stopped. He shot his attacker 5 times in the gut with his .357 revolver in response and proceeded to report the incident by radio. His 300+ pound attacker got back up and shot him through the armpit with his second .22lr round which reached the heart killing the cop in 15 seconds. The revolver beat the derringer in both calibre size and capacity, but the one armed with the revolver still died and the derringer wielder lived to serve jail time. Shot placement is key.

[@notirishrider7953]

Apatthetic Man What people also forget the 22 has very low recoil you can shoot as fast as you can pull the trigger or even full auto if your firearm has that capability and its common sense that you can fit more 22lr into a magazine than you can of 9mm or 38special not only you have more bullets to shoot you shoot faster and more accurately only differance is when people wear ballistic vests than a 22 lr might not be enough (I'm not a gun expert so i could make mistakes regarding calibers but you get the point)

[@Probleme5]

+Apatthetic Man just asking. if that jell was equal to human flesh how deep would it penetrate the chest with the 22 lr 4 inch barrel

[@johnthreesixteen5643]

true, but also true that you should be able to trust your gun in every situation, if youre agressor has a vest, if hes covered by some dor, etc etc. And in a gunfire situation you should not been worried about youre stopping power, also, in certain levels the stopping power is irrelevant, wich makes me think that the 9mm is the best option, it has a great penetration capability, stopping power and has not a high recoil

[@lazeryoshi]

+Joeseph Wysocki Most likely a pass through if it doesn't hit bone or cartilage

[@daffydill5807]

Apatthetic Man trooper coats was shot under the arm pit

[@melissalancz4833]

Here's something no one has said yet. I can't put a knife through a pine 2X4, but I know it's extremely lethal to be stabbed. The .22 on the other hand GOES RIGHT THROUGH A PINE 2X4. So..

[@ModernWarflare]

A knife also has slightly more surface area than a 32 grain bullet...

[@LeaverAction]

A .22 Long Rifle 40 grain bullet fired from a tiny NAA revolver will go through three 2x4's and almost through a 4th Melissa

[@houston77073]

Melissa get back in the kitchen

[@brentgogel726]

@@LeaverAction A 22 lr fired through a mini revolver will go through 3 2x4,s???? I don't think so. As a matter of fact I'm positive it won't. I'm not trying to be a dick but I will put money on it

[@timothyruch747]

@@houston77073 😂

[@sudfamily]

I carry a 40cal, but it is way to snappy for my wife, it is hard for her to shoot accurately, and she HATES shooting it. I am getting her an SR22 for self defense (of course, she wants the purple one). No matter what the 22LR haters say, facts do not lie, more people have died from a 22 than any other caliber. As others have said, shot placement is key, and she is VERY accurate with a 22. If my wife has to unload 1-10 rounds into an attackers chest or belly, he or she is NOT going to have a good day. ~Ken

[@dniezby]

Same situation here. I carry XDm 3.8" .40 and she has the Purple SR22. Even I like that pistol. We're even MP15-22 Rifle people. Definitely, lethal in that.

[@michaelmorris1865]

***** Hell, even birdshot from a 20 ga will send them running, and I've been shot with that as well as .22 in hunting accidents and 9mm Luger when someone didn't realize that I was there when shooting in the desert.

[@kristynk8381]

Why not go with 9mm or 380ACP for your wife? Yes a 22 will kill somebody but the smaller the caliber the more on point your shots have to be. People please do not use 22lr for self defense. And anyway why would you when there r bigger calibers available?

[@sudfamily]

Thanks everyone for your replies, we love the SR22. It is a wonderful little pistol, and VERY reliable for a 22. I don't even mind carrying it as a back up gun, it being purple does not bother me. Kristyn, my wife just happens to be one of those people who is ridiculously recoil sensitive, it is what it is. She has a hard time with a 9mm, but can shoot our 22 pistol wonderfully. Ironically, our 10 year old son shoots my 40 really well, our 13 year old daughter even shoots it better than my wife. Despite the mentality that a 22 should not be used for self defense, it still kills more people each year than another round. Hinkley attempted to assassinate Reagon with a 22. He dropped a Secret Service agent with one shot to the belly, a police officer with one shot to the back of the neck and hit Brady in the head. Neither of those men got back up. One of the bullets bounced off of the car door, hit Reagon, went through his lung, and ended up only an inch or two from his heart. Brady was rendered mentally handicapped after the incident and is the reason for the "Brady Bill" that made background checks mandatory. There is case after case were a criminal killed someone easily with the "lowly" 22, or were someone killed an attacker with it in self defense. Real world facts do not support the idea that the 22 cannot be an effective self defense weapon. For people like my wife, it is a very viable option regardless of the stigma attached to it. ~Ken

[@michaelmorris1865]

Kristyn K At least she is carrying a gun, and there are those like my grandmother who can no longer handle the recoil of any pistol larger than a .22 WMR due to a hand injury. It is better to have a low caliber firearm than no firearm at all, and most attackers will cease the attack at the mere presence of a firearm because they do not want to be shot.

[@TROOPERfarcry]

I've done very modest reviews of a few firearms on my favorite gun forum, and they take a ton of effort, and don't look as good as what you did here. Please believe me when I say that I sincerely appreciate what you've produced here: informative and professional.

[@bryanholland6987]

I'm trying to find a way to conceal my .50 Cal Anti Material Rifle. The man at the gun store said that I should find the gun with the largest stopping power and that a .50 Cal rifle is decent. However, the Carl Gustov Launcher seems to be the weapon of choice for personal defense, hands down. The only thing I don't like about that, is that it takes time to reload. Yes, I'm just kidding. I don't have any of that stuff. What I DO have, however, is a Walther P22 and it's just comfortable to carry. I'm searching around for a decent carry holster for my Glock 17 as well, but I have no problems carrying the .22 Pistol. Like OrdinaryGatsby said, nobody is going to volunteer to stand in front of any of these guns.

[@sponger7642]

And loud as hell! Really tee's off the neighbors.

[@robertgeary2900]

Bryan Holland Sorry Bryan......but...nope! M1 Abrams. Depleted Uranium. One shot......GUARANTEED! But.......you still have to place the shot! Damn It.....!!!!!

[@Wanderer_of_Sol]

I find the whole argument of whether or not a .22LR is suitable for self defense kind of silly. The comparisons and arguments about caliber and stopping power are moot. Just stop and think about these simple things. Do you think you, personally, could continue assaulting someone if they shot you with a .22? Even if they shot you in the leg, would you continue attacking someone? Think about the size of that round. I know it's very small. Imagine for a second someone stabs you with an ice pick that's about the same size. We all like to forget out the business at hand, but when it comes down to it, you are stabbing someone at range, with great force. There is the added effects of things like the round breaking apart, keyholing, expanding, exiting with a large exit wound or bouncing around internally. These all increase lethality, but all said and done, you are putting holes in a target. Totally forgetting about the force and percussion of that slamming into you at 1073 fps, just image someone stabbing you at the normal force and speed of a human arm, with an ice pick. I think for the average aggressor, which is normally just an average guy, that would stop them. Just imagine getting shot in the chest. It misses all the vitals and slams into a rub. Anyone who's broken a rib in sports can tell you that this will turn you off to the idea of moving in a hurry, even if the adrenaline is pumping. I sure as hell wouldn't want to be shot with a .22, just as much as I don't want to be stabbed with anything else. I think anyone who say's they can take a .22 round to the ribs and keep attacking or robbing someone, unimpeded, has seen too many action flicks.

[@painlessguy]

And I would say you haven't been to many bar fight scenes... People have been known to take multiple 22... hell even 9mm shots to the stomach, lower ribs, and keep fighting. One time a guy shot 3 times... still managed to shoot another guy after being shot those 3 times. They both had glock 9mm pistols and both died from their injuries. Thinking because you get the first shots off is going to save your life is silly. You want to stop a man in his tracks with a center mass shot get a .40 or better. There is a difference between stopping a man and being lethal.

[@pk0179417]

painlessguy I dont think there would be a shootout in a self-defense situation. Imagine the typical scenario where a criminal who wants to mug you or rob your business or steal from your home or car but gets shot once and can still force themselves and fight but instead runs away due to risk of either getting shot again or getting caught. This is fine because he will not continue his attack. I really cannot think of a scenario where someone would get shot and continue to fight back. Conclusion: While what you say is true, I think for self-defense this round (or even a weaker one if possible!) would be "good enough."

[@painlessguy]

The assailant could easily choose to shoot back. In a high stress situation their fight or flight reaction is going to take over. Who knows what way they will react. They won't be thinking clearly in the moment for sure. Maybe they go with the 5fight reaction... they may go with flight, but you can't really predict it. I'm not saying the 22 isn't lethal or very undesirable to be shot by. If it's all I had then yes it would be better than not being armed. I'm just of the opinion if you are going to choose a defense weapon there are much better rounds that produce a lot more knock down energy. A 22 stinger the bullet used in this demonstration from a pistol produces around 85ft/lbs of energy. Even a .380 will produce ~185ft/lbs of energy from a similar pistol with a similar length barrel using low end ammo, while keeping recoil very manageable. I personally have a 380, but it's not my top choice. I still stand by what I said if I'm going out to purchase a weapon for self defense the 22 isn't even going to get a blip on the radar. If I knew what I knew now when I bought my pistol I would have got a 45 acp and loaded it with 185gr bonded defense hollow points. This round carries 616ft/lbs of of energy and being a hollow point will not exit under most normal circumstances guaranteeing maximum transfer of energy to the assailant. A person should carry the gun that delivers the most energy to the target that they can handle efficiently and hit their shots with. Even the most inexperienced/small frame shooters should be able to handle a larger caliber than a 22 efficiently. Even the most gun shy should be able to handle a 380 pistol with some practice. Do you want "good enough" or the best chance when it comes down to your life?

[@pk0179417]

painlessguy True, the fight/flight thing is there but lets be honest. How many times have you heard of someone committing a felony who shoots back instead of running away? Its within possibility but you probably have a better chance of winning the lottery. When we are talking about "good enough" vs "best choice" we can always spend more to get more. In the end I think most people get guns for self-defense rather than out of hobby and due to this im sure most people would rather spend less per round getting more practice and being comfortable. This leads to more of a sense of security in my opinion than carrying a bigger gun/round especially when coupled with the fact that anyone who hears a gunshot will logically immediately flee. Now that I think about it, maybe it would be better to choose that whole .45acp thing instead of 22lr because one situation that can come up is someone being on drugs - a 45acp will infinitely be more useful than 22lr The points you make are valid on paper but in real life that doesn't translate very well...Unless youre in the military and are constantly put into situations where you are forced to fight. Then we can talk about lethality and such.

[@SaftonYT]

I don't think anyone questions the potential of a "psychological stop". The fact is, they happen all the time. Many would-be robbers flee/surrender at the sight & sound of someone with a gun, much less the sensation of being shot. Likewise, I would never want to be shot by a .22LR. They certainly *can* be lethal with good shot placement. All that being said, you don't carry and prepare for self-defense with the 99% of would-be thugs or home invaders in mind. You prepare for that rare 1% who, whether due to mentality, drug intoxication, or dumb luck *is* able to fight through the pain and shock of being shot to continue to threaten your life. For these types of threats, a psychological stop is insufficient. What happens when my bluff is called and my .22 doesn't particularly faze the angry man with a baseball bat intent on playing tee-ball with my head? Since I had neither the time, money, or inclination to train myself to the level of a CAG Operator, I can't exactly make a perfect CNS shot on a moving target under stress. Darn. Again, you're right. Most people who claim they'd shrug off a .22 if need be are indeed full of shit. In the majority of cases where you're confronted with a would-be criminal, it would be perfectly sufficient to convince them to take several rapid steps back and reconsider their life choices. However, I still wouldn't feel comfortable trusting it with other choices available. To say nothing of the inherent reliability advantage of centerfire cartridges. To each his own. .22LR can be perfectly viable for self-defense with the right loadings and plenty of practice. It has several merits in its favor. It's not *my* personal round of choice, but I respect those who feel otherwise. My argument is more aimed at the idea of relying on a psychological stop in a potentially life-or-death confrontation.

[@Rifleman1776]

Good and informative video. I use .22s in several of my handguns. I choose to use Stingers in the semi-auto pocket guns because they give 100% function reliability. Most other .22 choices do not. I am convinced use of a .22 for self defense is an adequate choice. The vid and much other documentation, mostly from ER doctors prove it is a very damaging round.

[@caleb88k]

carry what you feel comfortable shooting, and most of all carry consistently. great video, keep up the great work.

[@sturmcat]

I own a Ruger SR22. It is great .22 pistol. I think one of the best out there. With the right ammunition it is easily a good choice for self-defense, at home or CCW.

[@jamesalvarez8581]

These are the EXACT types of videos I appreciate. Unbiased , controlled conditions(as much as possible that is) to show how a round performs. Good stuff.

[@SaftonYT]

Something that I think is worth noting in regards to .22LR for the defensive role is the reliability of the cartridge itself. In my experience, .22LR -- being a rimfire cartridge -- is inherently more prone to FTFs and other issues than centerfire rounds. Buying high-quality ammunition (CCI or the Federal Premium stuff, for instance) *can* mitigate this to some extent, but even then on my range trips I've noticed that using the higher quality ammunition brings the overall level of reliability to, at best, roughly on par with steel-cased bulk centerfire ammo. Not exactly a paragon of reliability. It's for this reason that I've heard of many people using .25 ACP -- which is actually even slightly *less* powerful than .22LR -- for self-defense instead, simply because it's a centerfire cartridge. I'm not trying to knock .22LR. It's a great cartridge that's very popular (and rightfully so) and in the right hands it can definitely stop a threat. I'd rather have a single-shot .22LR than nothing during a life or death encounter. Just something worth keeping in mind.

[@SaftonYT]

No problem. I don't pretend to be an authority on the subject, it's just something I've noticed in my own experience and have seen others agree with elsewhere. Best of luck in your decision. I don't think you can go wrong either way.

[@twistedtaipan3862]

I've shot thousands and thousands of .22LR rounds and I honestly can't think of a single time I had a dud round. I'm sure there were a few, but that's saying something. I do, however, distinctly remember the .45 ACP dud on my very first outing with a new pistol a year ago. I trust CCI Stingers just as much as any other ammo.

[@JoeyBlossom]

The SR22 is reliable. Never had a ftf.

[@emirofshmoe]

If you want to carry a .22LR for self defense you should carry a .22LR revolver such as the Ruger LCR. Carrying a revolver will eliminate any potential misfire problems that may arise from using rimfire ammunition.

[@darthkek1953]

*It's for this reason that I've heard of many people using .25 ACP -- which is actually even slightly less powerful than .22LR* The power differences are so small as to not even be measurable. CF the expert kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJ_Re2Osn72Eo9E

[@lbenvignati]

MY WIFE CARRIES A RUGER SR22 FOR A CARRY WEAPON. I WOULD TRUST MY LIFE WITH HER THAT SHE CAN PUT ALL TEN SHOTS IN THE ATTACKERS HEART, FACE OR HEAD

[@100fredkrueger]

Putting ten shots into a paper target is a lot different than hitting a moving target that may be shooting back. Yes a .22 is better than nothing. My wife like the .22 too but I wouldn't let her carry one. The smallest I would let her carry was a .380. And soon she is moving to a 9mm. I have shot at a moving target while hunting and I can tell you it ain't easy to hit it. And that is with a rifle. And I wasn't shooting from very far.

[@lbenvignati]

Believe me she shoots with both eyes open and even a cop said to me " who taught her how to shoot"? Sorry but I must say she is just good. Have a nice day and keep the paper target off your chest.

[@cultofmalgus1310]

+Lou Benvignati I'd opt for a wheel gun with an 8 or 9 rnd cylinder for reliability reasons.

[@lbenvignati]

I totally agree with you but her other gun is a Smith and Wesson 3913 Lady Smith . She very much liked the Ruger so at this point its her choice. Thank you

[@cultofmalgus1310]

Lou Benvignati hey as long as she's really considered all the possibilities of misfires under pressure. I like the glock 26 myself but to each their own.

[@TheTsigane]

If you're going to use a .22LR handgun for self defense, I recommend the Ruger LCR. Eight rounds in a simple, double-action only, small and lightweight package. Worst case, you get a dud, and you just pull the trigger and it moves on to the next round. When I first tried my SR22, I got two misfires in the first 70 rounds, using CCI Mini-Mags. That might improve as the gun gets broken in, but if my life is at stake I want eight for sure instead of 10+1 maybe. Another advantage of the LCR22 is it's the gun you can hand to a friend or family member who's never been interested in guns but suddenly needs one (and hasn't been an anti-gunner either, in which he/she would be on his/her own if it were me, LOL). Nothing to remember; just point it in the right direction and keep pulling the trigger until the bad guy stops.

[@mawangdwei3866]

The LCR in .38 and in .357 holds 5 rounds. The LCR in 22 LR holds 8, the LCR in 22 magnum holds 6. The LCR in .327 holds 6.

[@shj2000]

I love your tests and I think I enjoy the 22lr tests the most of all of the calibers. But I have a question. First let me say that in general I agree that the loss of velocity that occurs when shooting 22lr out of a handgun means that we can not expect expansion; therefore, when picking a bullet for defensive use we should maximize penetration. But in your own test of the 40 gr Mini Mag the penetration achieved was less than that of the Stinger tested here. Doesn't that make a case for the Stinger as a prime choice in a defensive role out of a pistol (if, as you say, we've decided to drop down to the bottom floor of calibers for the purpose of defense)? I was surprised by the results as I expected that the CCI 40 gr solid would out penetrate the Stinger. Thanks.

[@joeabaker57]

I love your videos, and am a fellow Volunteer, born in Humboldt btw :-) I used to be convinced that a 9mm was the basement round, and wanted a .40 or .45 ideally. Then I got heavily involved in archery, and more on topic, air gunning. This afternoon, I was blowing .177 pellets through weather hardened 1/2" plywood at 20 yards like it was paper. My .380's shoot a 90 gr. bullet at the same velocity. My air gun pellets weigh 7.4 grains. In the 1945 ad for my High Standard G 380, General Julius Hatcher refers to the round as the "very efficient 9mm short" and it is. It was designed by John Browning, and like my Llama, is a 7/8th replica of the 1911, and the .45 ACP it is one of the top 3 calibers used by gang bangers to kill each other (besides .22 and 9mm) .22's are still the #1 killing caliber used by those folks. It works.

[@clksvlguy03]

Clarksville Tn here

[@clksvlguy03]

I was born in Huntingdon…my folks lived in Humboldt in the late 50s

[@leebrewer1190]

I spent years shooting woodchucks in PA with a Remington 576 pump .22 rifle. I compared the CCI Stingers to Remington Yellow Jacket hollow points, Federal hollow points, Winchester Super X ( a look alike for Stingers), and normal CCI hollow points. I lined up two liter bottles of water at about 30 feet. The Yellow Jacket was 2nd best for impact when it out a 2 inch wide split in the backside of the bottle. The Stinger split the bottle almost entirely in two at the middle and was the only one to also knock the bottle off (violently) from the bench they were all sitting on. So I used only Stingers for shooting woodchucks at 50-75 yards (yes - with a .22). And they were the only ones that would make a kill at that distance. I used other loads closer up and sometimes even with the eye shot the round would only wound the animal severely. I knew any head shot with a Stinger was instant lights out.

[@Thunderkat65]

Many people put down the .22lr but I for one would not want to be shot by one!

[@bobthompson4918]

Thunderkat65 , with you on that. 😎

[@Christopher_R]

I typically tell people, “it’s not ideal, but i doubt it’s gonna tickle.”

[@ironwoodnf]

I dont much like good paintball hits let alone Lead.

[@BerryM6162]

a .22 is a good gun for self defense. Easy to control and quick to point. If you do have a Automatic its even all the the better. Unload a full clip and i bet the intruder will not come out on top unless you just cant shoot for shit. All in all, A .22 will do the job.

[@infinitybeyond1089]

BerryM6162 no your wrong

[@silvereagle90000]

ohh long johnson+ Why is he wrong? Can you do better than just dismiss a claim instead of explaining why? My .22 pistol has 140 ft/lbs per bullet. I have 10+1. I expect to put half of those rounds in an intruder in an emergency situation. That's 700 ft/lbs in total. A moose would die from that let alone a mere 200# man.

[@xXFRIESXx]

silvereagle90000 very true my gsg 1911 22 is 10+1 and i can empty 11 rounds in less than 2 secs

[@silvereagle90000]

That's my next go-to. 30 lethal, accurate shots in a pistol is about as good as one can want.

[@T-DsGaming]

You dump 30 rounds a someone and you just went from self defense to straight up murder.

[@lughfiregod16]

I sure as hell would rather have a 22 then a knife or something, but personally I will stick with a 9mm, it's what I've trained with and feel most comfortable with.

[@nacholibre1962]

I'm glad you did the handgun test from a proper self-defence range, rather than 15-25 yds like some people have done. 10 feet is much more realistic. Expansion or not, you put three rounds of .22 into someone and they are going to have critical wounds going right through their vital organs. Also, the change of not hitting bone with a centre of mass shot is very small, so deformity of the bullet will definitely occur. This will case direction change as well as likely greater damage. A .22 is absolutely OK for self defence.

[@johnnywishbone932]

I remember when I was a kid I defended myself with a .22 pellet gun. A bigger teenager tried to jack my dirt bike, He pulled a knife. I shot him six times with a pellet pistol in the chest. As the gun came out and the first bang sounded, the look on his face was holy $hit terror. It doesn't matter what you carry, a roll of dimes in a work glove, dog spray, rolling pin, or cousin Vinnie. It's no good if it is home, and its no good if you hesitate. Self defense is about stopping the attack not killing (if the poop bag dies then bonus). My test theory (it's still unproven) go to the local bar pick up a pretty girl go back to your place, let her shoot you in a lung with a .22 pistol and please tell us the results of your sexual experience after you are shot.

[@alterego924]

Archangel Michael very true. i'm a stay at home mom of 4 with a new baby, my husband works midnights and I just started thinking about how vulnerable I am home alone overnight with these babies. I played out scenarios in my head about a home invasion. it scared the crap outta me. What would i do? I realized I wasn't prepared. my children and I could be easy victims. I decided to get a pistol, I started with a ruger sr22 because I felt like I could handle it, it wasn't overpowering. Once I got past the intimidation phase and I realized that I was in control of this handgun I quickly moved to a 9mm.

[@johnnywishbone932]

A Crosman 38T CO2 Pistol is not bullshit. It is a fast action revolver for a pellet gun based on a S&W- K .38 special. Now you can go back to being the smartest guy in the world because you learned something new.

[@johnnywishbone932]

Mine was a .22 cal pellet look it up.

[@kb9ylu]

Johnny Wishbone some people think they know and some people know yes they make 22 pellets

[@victorortega7871]

I am okay with guns, but knives are where it's at. I have a 4-inch 36-year old stiletto in good condition passed down from my father. You don't have to reload knives, but the bad part is that stilettos are illegal and guns do help bluff

[@MrKadidle51]

Am I crazy or do those wound channels from the pistol look kind of nasty?

[@ABCDEFGHIJKELA...]

+Joe Schmoe honestly, what's nastier is the denim that was delivered with the round, from what I've read that can be just as life threatening as the bullet due to infection. hehe but yeah man, that really surprised me that one made it thru the entire block oO, and from the pistol, not even the rifle! I guess since the round retained it's smaller shape that friction didn't play as much of a role in stopping it short.

[@pericodelospalotes5738]

+jey lee With modern treatments infections are not a serious risk, one left lead bullet inside the body because it is in a risky place can poison your blood after many years.

[@ryanmccloskey4292]

+Joe Dijeaux lol get outta here. glad you know your stuff genius

[@pericodelospalotes5738]

TheRealestEver I do know what I'm talking about. Are you a doctor, genious?

[@pericodelospalotes5738]

TheRealestEver Shut up you, ignorant: "Lead poisoning is an unusual complication of retained bullet fragments. The bullets and shotgun pellets most frequently encountered are 50-100 percent lead with an outer material made of a metal or alloy harder than lead (copper, nickel, steel, or aluminum).[3,4] In gunshot wounds to a joint, contact of the bullet with the synovial fluid can be associated with an increased incidence of lead toxicity.[5] Bullet fragmentation and the surface area of lead exposed to synovial fluid correlate with the increased lead levels in the blood.[6] The onset of symptoms of lead poisoning can range from two days to 52 years after the gunshot wound.[1,2] The reason for this long interval is unclear." www.medscape.com/viewarticle/735071_3

[@SonOfTheDawn515]

I personally wouldn't rely on .22LR for self defense; however .22LR is better than nothing. On the other side of that I've known guys to survive multiple shots from an AK pattern rifle in Iraq (not US with body armor) from around 100 meters out and a case my mother (retired LEO) who investigated a shooting where a person died from one shot from a .22LR handgun because it hit him directly in the heart. So, it's all in your preference and what you are comfortable with and competent with when it comes to your defense choice. Just know the draw backs and work the the tool to its strengths. I don't use .22LR for defense due to its lack of penetration through car doors (won't go in the target's body deep enough to cause enough damage to stop a threat). But with the lower recoil of .22LR it would theoretically be easier to maintain rounds on a fixed target. Just know you and know your tool.

[@notanymore9471]

How many self defense scenarios require shooting through car doors?

[@INeverMetAGunIDidntLike]

Personally in my opinion if I was going to use a .22lr handgun for self defense, I would not use a pistol. I would use a double action revolver. With a pistol if you have a round that wont go BANG then you have to manually clear that round. With a double action revolver all you have to do is pull the trigger again. Some revolvers like the Ruger LCR .22lr holds eight rounds. Just my opinion.

[@NewYorkCityBoxing]

stewie6096 I agree.

[@smokeythehuman3596]

stewie6096 you do know even though a revolver doesnt look like a normal pistol it is still considered a pistol

[@rickle52]

stewie6096 c

[@MrZodiac9]

Used a 22. LR to shoot a violent mugger here in Michigan, very effective.

[@amirharris6676]

You hit the vitals and goodbye little Suzy! Good video!

[@evanvanleer227]

+John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt nah

[@828enigma6]

But perhaps not as quickly as one would like.

[@matthewdavisson]

@@evanvanleer227 are you saying you can take 10+1 to the chest or face?! Get out of here with that bull.

[@yeahtoast2011]

My boyfriend just bought me this gun. It's what I wanted. I knew I wanted a .22 because of the low recoil, so I watched many reviews and saw that the Rugar misfired the least. This .22 pistol got me over my fear! I'm happy he bought it for me but I'm also happy he bought himself a 9mm :)

[@johnnybowman4653]

My wife carries a .22 and I feel good about her safety especially since she's a way better shot than me

[@SouthernShodan]

The argument of whether the .22lr is effective for self defense or not is really missing the point. The point that needs to be looked at is where people aim the thing. People talk about head shots (good luck if you are a regular citizen w/o training under stress) or center mass shots (maybe the round hits a vital, maybe it changes trajectory after hitting bone, or maybe it just causes a .22" hole that doesn't phase the attacker in time to help you). The point is, with small calibers like the .22lr and .25 acp, you need to think LOWER....as in your point of aim. Most women already know this, but if a bad guy sees you drop your point of aim from his chest to his nads, the 'perceived' diameter of the round gets increased rather quickly. Most gangbangers like to brag to their friends and show off their scars from bullet wounds they survived to the chest/arms/legs, but none will think the 40-60 bucks you might have in your wallet is worth even a close GRAZE from a bullet in that particular area. Something to think about.

[@khannooniansingh1360]

SouthernShodan thought the point was the round actually working when needed

[@jamiesloan5902]

Hahaha. Never thought about aiming LOWER. Pretty good point, but, I'll take my chances at the head.

[@WTFMannyxFTW]

The Ruger SR22 Is the most beloved .22 caliber pistol, for a reason. Great gun

[@holmesfamily2058]

The Ruger 10/22 has set next to my front door loaded with CCI Stingers since I viewed this video some 5 years ago. Since then I have used it to shoot 2 cayotes and grabbed it each time, there is a disturbance on the property. Thanks for the reviews.

[@VonSpyder]

Actually given the violent yawing the bullets give creating those cavities along with the great penetration, I have to say these bullets did absolutely fantastic for a self defense possibility. I mean basically you are hoping they DONT expand so you can capitalize on the yaw you get.

[@639Beaver]

Expansion vs penetration in this test shows the reletive same effect. The total ammount of damage to a suspect would be equal, in my opinion. Control and accuracy of placement would surpass damage from expansion. Thank you, great video.

[@Redshift313]

Probably not a bad choice for a Senior who has little or No experience with Handguns...

[@themouas]

Or a small lady.

[@strickjh2005]

***** My wife is more accurate with a .22 than a .380, she isn't afraid of the recoil on the .22 so she can mag dump 9/10 rnds into a torso in about 2.5 seconds. With the .380 she manages 2 or 3 out of 6 in 10 seconds. Which seems deadlier?

[@TheCharlemagne1978]

My aunt carried several .22's as did my great grand mothers . For a long time small .22 to 32 cal pocket pistols were what a majority of concealed carry people brought to the table .

[@mja9700]

Redshift313 my idea of self defense is, as soon as you exposed your gun to a possible mugger, it deters them even without firing a shot or pulling gun from holster. I’m definitely okay with .22 especially a magnum.

[@jeremyjeremy8795]

I’m 200+, I can shoot a 9mm very well, why do I carry a SR22...I can dump 11 rds into a fist sized target at 10+ even without a perfect grip, stance etc. single handed doesn’t matter. It’s easy to shoot and it works. The statistical likelihood that you will ever even draw and point at a person is stupidly low, of those the likelihood of this gun not being sufficient is even lower

[@darrellowings2343]

This was a great video. That pistol has a 4.5 inch barrel so not short for a .22 but not excessively long either. This stinger trick is a good one to remember and there is room for discussion on damage not always necessarily coming from expansion. The bullets that didn't expand penetrated further and did more damage.

[@Courier-Six]

While I mainly carry a Remington 1911A1 in the perennial .45 ACP in a side mounted rig or shoulder rig in the winter, I also carry a Walther P22 first year production in the small of my back at all times as a spare. Sometimes in the summer if I just want to wear basketball shorts and a tank top I'll drop the 1911 and just carry the Walther around my property because of it's lighter weight. I honestly love the little gal and I've never had an issue with her to this day after 5 years of ownership.

[@jonsmith4214]

If I could only keep one gun out of all my guns, it would be my Ruger 10/22.

[@beemerphill]

Thank you for the video. And don't let the "experts" get you down. Any older farm boy will tell you that a 22 properly placed will kill a large pig or a large steer. We used to do all of our own butchering, and used a 22 to kill them. As far as self-defense goes, if the bad guy knows that you have a firearm and are willing to use it, he will pick on someone else. I want him to hear the shot and see the muzzle flash. If the first one does not scare him away, I will just take a head shot. Most of us do not carry a badge, do not have color of law, and will end up paying our own legal fees. We will also pay any medical expenses that the bad guy incurs, plus pay his family for "loss of companionship. I prefer to scare him away instead of actually shoot him. My personal carry is a little larger than .22, but I would not feel at all "under gunned" with a dependable 22.

[@blackmesaoutdoors4863]

beemerphill amen!

[@electrochubb]

Impressive for a short barreled pistol.! Laff at the .22 pistol as a self defense option,but this proves it is deadly. If this were a bad guy/attacker the .22 wound would not be survivable.

[@fudgepie1]

Had a problem with CCI minimags expanding reliably from a 3" revolver. Took a very small star head screwdriver and sharpened the front edges then pressed it firmly but carefully into the cavity to cut grooves into the inside of the cavity. Thereafter they expanded reliably.

[@neilreid9005]

A good friend of mine was the assistant DA for Dallas County. He told me the #1 caliber of murder weapons during his tour- .22. So ya, a .22 is a fine defense weapon, train with it, keep it close to you, and stay aware at all times. Carry on.

[@308beatZ]

Hell...a .22LR pistol is better than a stick

[@robertdaone]

or a rock.

[@Harry-sq8jj]

A round of Mini-Mag 40 grain solid fired from a handgun into the eyeball is a much better fight stopper than than even a 9mm in the chest. Takes a lot of practice though.

[@SaftonYT]

Personally, I like my chances of striking an assailant in the chest with my Walther PPQ under stress better than I do hitting him in the eye with a .22.

[@Harry-sq8jj]

I agree with you, but you never know exactly what situation you will find yourself in. Here is a link to an incredible story everyone should read. I know the round used in this story was a .25ACP but a .22LR is about the same, if not better. smallestminority.blogspot.com/2012/03/on-25acp-and-stopping-power.html

[@RemoteViewr1]

Sergeant Joe Friday laser

[@MrBucidart]

Nice Video... There is over 1/2 a dozen coyotes, 30-40 jack rabbits and hundreds of ground squirrels that wished this round was never invented... If there was a rib bone in the gel and was hit with the bullet... massive damage.. for a .22

[@jimatyeo]

Say what you want about the good old .22 but my neighbor was attacked a few months back by an mugger after just getting out of his car. My neighbor was able to get to his Ruger Sr 22 and shot the mugger in the chest twice and he died before they got him to the hospital. My neighbor was not hurt and could have been. Mugger was stopped and killed, seems pretty effective to me.

[@spencer5654]

Love my Ruger SR22. Carry it everywhere. Low recoil, flash, noise, and high control. My only wish is they can make a mag with a higher capacity.

[@richard9436]

Keltec P17

[@tbmarq5320]

i'm no expert but i would guess that with the low recoil of the .22 you could just keep your gun on target and keep pulling the trigger until the threat is no more.

[@bobthompson4918]

tb marq , yup. Exactly 😆

[@tedh.8356]

For all of those people who just have to have a .40 or .45 and nothing else, keep in mind nobody wants to get shot with any caliber, and it's more about well placed shots than anything else, if all a person has or can safely shoot is a .22 LR like a Walther P22 or SR22 or any other .22 it's better than nothing and with correctly placed shots will kill or disable you, and can and will stop a fight...........

[@iannluci]

Your videos really are the best ! thank you for your time sir!

[@stefanodogg280]

Firstly, these gel tests are a huge asset, thanks tnoutdoors.. I especially enjoyed your 10MM 135 grain Underwood gel test.. this or the 150 grain will be my street carry load Underwood 10mm 135 gr Nosler Clear Gel Test (precision handload with that Nosler bullet) in my EAA Witness 10mm. Yes I carry a 10MM primary and my femmy little wife has packed a full house S & W .357 Magnum for decades and loves it. 22 is an extremely poor choice for an EDC caliber. Those who use the tired old fact that many eventually die from 22s neglect the additional fact that many of those people lived for hours or days before kicking off. If they were standing toe to toe with you and better armed, none of that will matter to you because you'll likely precede them into the void. If attacked with deadly force, I want them down and out, NOW

[@Speedbird7771]

Finally,.. the best .22LR review. Good job. Comparison between rifle & pistol,.. and most importantly NUMBERS!

[@blackBLUR89]

Stop acting like the diameter of your bullet and the design of your primer is going to be the deciding factor in a confrontation or gunfight that saves your life. Your own awareness, reaction time, aim, and familiarity with your primary cc firearm will have more of an excuse impact on whether you live or die than the diameter of the bullet and the amount of powder behind it. If your going to cc a .22 caliber firearm, get a ruger LCR or sr22 and load it with CCI velocitors. AND PRACTICE LIKE YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT.

[@ArkansasChainsaw]

best gun in a gun fight is the one you have .

[@rustybooty8978]

Still, better than no gun.

[@kylejackson1158]

I only have a lever action tube fed 22lr rifle. My dad doesn't like guns and the only reason I have it is because my great grand father on the other side of my family gave it to me. Could I put down an intruder with it?

[@tnoutdoors9]

Yes. Accuracy first. 22's have probably stopped more people than any other caliber.

[@kylejackson1158]

Thanks!

[@emperorkrell5506]

people have been killed with a well placed BB, any gun is better than no gun

[@Crammond13]

absolutely

[@micahmoore311]

yes

[@WavyVaporizers]

Don't let a NRA CCW teacher ever tell u that a 22 caliber handgun isn't considered a edc or at home defense. If you know how to shoot placing your shots in the right spots will neutralize any target.

[@CustomJeep]

No expansion from the 3.5” barrel. Not surprised. Designed for rifle and varmints. Now we have CCI Uppercut. Good stuff. Gotta tell ya though, if 22LR tumbles thru ur body, its not gonna matter whether it expanded or not.

[@bullboo1]

Yes it will work for self defense and in court lawyers really cannot blame you by playing up the caliber to the jury like a magnum cartridge

[@IcabodCrane]

Also; why is it only online that you find these magical, 300 pound men? Every 300 pound man I've ever asked was pretty adamant about NOT being shot...even in the Motorcycle Helmet. I've also not met a lot scary bikers who wear helmets at all; much less pull out a knife on someone 70+ pounds smaller than them without a pretty good reason. Most bikers are just people who have a leather/loudness fetish...I promise they're not hiding under your bed. I also promise that, 99% of the time, a drug-addled, randomly violent, 300 pound miscreant isn't going to wake up like "Well gee I love Oxycontin and killing guys who are afraid of their own shadow...but first, I need my helmet!"

[@samwabs8725]

You can outrun a 300 lb man by walking at a brisk pace.

[@liltrue8420]

@@samwabs8725 not if he's inside your house lmao

[@daviddeleon6761]

AWESOME video. Thank you!

[@frankatchison1617]

The .22lr is has and always. Will be the most popular round, ever marketed how good of a marksman you are, the knowledge of vital organs penetration etc. Makes all the difference.

[@paulwatts3009]

I have 2 carry weapons. One is the Springfield Armory XD 9MM Tactical. It's large, high capacity and accurate. It's not very comfortable to carry for a long period of time, but I have no trouble concealing. My other carry is a Ruger SR22. I'm more accurate at better speed with the Ruger. The Springfield is easier to get off the first shot because the 2 safeties are disabled by grabbing the grip and pulling the trigger. The Ruger I have to flip the safety up and pull the hammer either with my thumb or the trigger. I feel equally safe carrying either weapon. I think the Stinger is a good round but I prefer the Mini Mag because it is 40 grains vs. 32. The tiny hole that makes the Stinger expand gets clogged when it goes through clothing, so it doesn't expand. Round was designed for small game. Just my opinions.

[@Majorvideonut2]

I've read many of the comments and I have one thing to say to those who say .22 wont stop you... I'm ready to try... are you ready to receive it and prove us wrong?

[@pant3ra647]

I wouldn't want to be shot with a BB gun.. Doesn't mean it's a good self defense choice. So your analogy is stupid, to say the least. sorry.

[@MichelLinschoten]

PANT3RA BB gun is not a 22LR...so i agree you're logic makes no sense..

[@pant3ra647]

Your reading comprehension and your grammar makes no sense. You're = you are. I digress though - a BB gun can still kill, just like a .22. It doesn't mean you should trust your life on it to stop a determined attacker. Go read up more on the topic before you try to have a discussion with the big boys.

[@MichelLinschoten]

PANT3RA Big boys? Read up?!...how about joining me at the range "big boy" This "little boy" you can find on the range nearly every week shooting from .22LR up to 45ACP and more. So you keep on reading, instead of packing a rifle and going out on the range. And as far as my grammar goes, i am Dutch not English, so my sincere apologies that i could not indulge your/you're mediocre character. "big boy" my ass, you seem like a typical couch commando. I shoot guns, i love guns and i own plenty. Just as you probably do, your not a big boy. You're just one of those, want to hand a argument based on textbook bullocks. That's fine tho, i am used to it on the range too here in the USA. Each to it's own..

[@pant3ra647]

LOL you say you're at the range constantly? Yea that pristine condition 1911 you have in your picture sure looks like you use it a lot! Nice lying dumb ass.

[@iantusa9207]

My ONLY problem with 22LR is their fickle nature. I've never seen a round fail as often as 22lr.

[@brentgogel726]

Yep. Because it's a rimfire. Center fire cartridges are 100 times more reliable. And if you shoot bulk pack ammo it's even worse

[@MultiFord150]

There is nothing wrong with a .22 for self defense. If that's what you're comfortable shooting, then shoot it ! Just remember, if the bad guy breaks into your house and you shoot him three times, that's three more holes in him that he didn't have. It may not kill him instantly, but it WILL make him stop what he's doing.

[@ramoncordova4438]

Loscs

[@SaftonYT]

Indeed. The best rule of thumb is to use whatever caliber (and pistol) you're able to employ effectively and consistently. I personally don't like .22LR for self-defense when presented with other choices due to a variety of factors, but it's not without merit.

[@raymondpexton5440]

Finally someone doing a correct 10 ft shot, an average shot for self defence, no mushroom and a pass through, it's for poking holes in bad guys,

[@Really-AintBuyn-nit]

The powder is designed for the longer barrel to get the max benefit from this round. My first hand gun was a 6" barreled S&W622. This round as most CCI's in my experience go bang every time. I sometimes pocket carry a 2213 S&W. These or the Mini Mags are what's in the mag.

[@TictacAddict1]

My wife has no problems picking up my Ruger Mk 2 pistol and rapidly placing 10 shots into a dinner plate target at 20 feet. If you replace that dinner plate with a head, you're assailant will either be dead or incapacitated. Either way they'll still be a Democrat voter. Did I say that out loud?

[@thomasjefferson1081]

It's pronounced "stanger"

[@geraldokland7499]

Pronounced "STANGER "only if you come from the land of the BOLL WEEVIL ".

[@mccosmicdj5066]

😂🤣

[@goosethecat4023]

Expansion isn't as much an issue with head shots...

[@ModernWarflare]

You would think. Someone commented on one of his other videos saying he survived being shot TWICE in the head with a .22LR.

[@828enigma6]

Bear in mind the thickest part of the skull is the forehead, followed by the posterior, and the sides. The thinnest is the eye sockets, face, and temples. The face is complicated, having voids, teeth, and the base of the skull to perforate for best results. However, the cervical spine is right there and presents a possible one shot stop if struck with enough force.

[@sirfur36]

in the 1980's I shot some of the original Stingers into a coke 2 liter bottle filled with water. they expaned to the point you couldn't do a ballistics test on it. The bullets were lead with a pentagram shape hollow point. fired from a Marlin with a scope. since you didn't get expansion I have to believe two things: 1) the metallurgy of the bullets has changed. 2) the change in hollow point design has eliminated the expansion. which sounds like the ATF has had a chat with CCI.

[@Elon_Trump]

Buy high quality ammunition and keep your gun clean. If you still have any serious doubts as to the reliability and lethality of 22lr after watching this I would suggest checking out Paul Harrel’s channel and take a look at his extensive research on the matter

[@1911s4me]

I don't always carry a .22 but when I do it's dos equis.

[@1911s4me]

lol!

[@ChaseMcClure90]

1911s4me fuck that too!!!! Be a man and step up to a Colt 45 and 2 zig zags!!!

[@1911s4me]

LOL! Now that's funny!

[@SouthernShodan]

How'd you get those hotties? Must be the sweet beard :-)

[@JettBlast]

Stay thirsty my friend

[@derpatrizier]

the Mossad used 22. cal handguns

[@gsd4me00]

.22 is good for close up assassinations.

[@Betoniporsas75]

Yep. High Standard and Beretta were/are most popular.

[@HikerJohn316]

Yes, they used a Walther PP, 22LR.

[@spacerconrad]

IIRC, they used the 10/22 as a "kneecapper" rifle, for riot control, though they don't really like to talk about it. The program is designed around a "less lethal" approach.

[@bobthompson4918]

derpatrizier , Beretta model 71 chambered in 22lr, very effective. 😆

[@JihadAeon]

All the .22LR Means to me is you have NO EXCUSE for missing. Your marksmanship had better be TOP NOTCH . Hit the Brain, the Heart or the Spine... To stop the Bad Actor Mid-Crime!!

[@ZazzilasArden]

It doesn't even matter if you miss when you're ten feet away and have five rounds. If two of those rounds hit, the guy coming at you is on his ass and probably dying. .22lr has always been underrated.

[@matthewdavisson]

@@ZazzilasArden my M&P 22 Compact has 10+1 in the chamber. No one is surviving 11 shots.

[@ZazzilasArden]

@@matthewdavisson Exactly.

[@trainsbangsandautomobiles824]

I think that for such a small and rather weak round, I'd rather have more penetration than expansion. Sure the expanded round would dump more of its energy into the person, but look at the "energy" we are talking about. I'd rather have the round go as deep as possible to hopefully hit bones, such as the spinal card.