22 MAGNUM SELF DEFENSE AMMUNITION GEL BLOCK TEST - SHORT BARREL

[@taofledermaus]

Very convincing test. Well done!

[@buffalosoutdoors]

Thanks. Appreciate that!

[@christopherch7307]

Hey would yall happen ta know whatever happened to the "Ammo Quest" guy? Shooting the bull 410

[@notnowchief.3089]

Taufullugermeister Is in the comments from California .. 😁😁

[@JohnLloydScharf]

@@buffalosoutdoors I am surprised the 22LR Punch out performs the 22 Mag Punch in a lot of testing. You should try them head to head, if you can.

[@kbkesq]

This is my regular carry ammo in this pistol. When I’m not carrying the SW327PC - it’s big for a snubby but 8 shots 357mag and very low kick. But I’d be perfectly fine carrying 351pc- if I could only have 1 EDC it would be 351c!

[@gillysguns9244]

That's a good result from the federal punch. I am amazed at how much improvement has been made in rimfire ammunition in the last few years. Great video Buffalo!!!

[@buffalosoutdoors]

Thanks. I agree, it's come a long way!

[@ted.angell7609]

Why is it already sold out with no backorder?

[@Roboticdoughbull3k]

​@@ted.angell7609we seem as Americans to have a problem asking the right people the right questions, calling out treason, communism and terrorism essentially. The people behind the decisions We the people allow to slide by, usually at worst spreading memes and little else to voice concern, disagreement or plain insisting on accountability. These people in our gov't, fortune companies etc know exactly what they're doing despite the majority not agreeing with it. They'll continue to subvert and take everything away little by little until we just can't take it anymore, then they'll declare a martial law and try to finish the job. All comes down to the people working against their conscience, our constitution and mainly Bill of rights. They keep just following orders, lead & ceo's keep progressing agenda 2030... We'll see it get worse and worse, until the true gov't We the people put our feet down to live on instead of our knees and our money's where our mouths are. Basically so I've heard.

[@sickboy703]

Federal Punch is really setting a high standard for the rimfire world. Love to see it.

[@wsieber89]

I agree. Their punch .38 special is great too

[@GenX-Grampa]

Buffalo gets Clear Ballistics gell blocks and commences to show them exactly how they SHOULD look! Like a fish aquarium and not some pond water block! The man with the clearest gell blocks on KZbin!

[@guap406]

The clear gel blocks do not replicate tissue as accurately as the “pond water” gel blocks you disdain. Those blocks are made in house out of a powder and have to be cooled. They are used by the FBI for ballistics gel testing, as the resistance simulates human and animal tissue more accurately and will affect the expansion of projectiles differently than mail ordered ballistics gel.

[@phenri4809]

​@@guap406interesting

[@maxmccain8950]

It looks like Federal did their homework on the Punch line of bullets. It performed well in about every caliber I’ve seen tested. Yet another great video sir.

[@buffalosoutdoors]

Thank you and I have to agree they did their homework.

[@garyK.45ACP]

Short version: Hornady: 😖 Speer: 😏 Federal: 😁 I'm not surprised Federal wins the contest. I use HST ammo in all my carry guns. Federal seems to be outstanding at producing defense ammunition. Thanks, Buffalo. Your shot placement was perfect!

[@buffalosoutdoors]

Thanks Gary!

[@onedirection3510]

Beautiful woodsy property! What state are you in?

[@garyK.45ACP]

@@onedirection3510 He is in Kentucky

[@onedirection3510]

@@garyK.45ACP Thanks

[@thatsmytwocents4372]

I think you got your Hornady and Speer mixed up. Speer had more velocity, but Normandy had more foot pounds of energy and they do more damage to their targets (meat and the like). Hornady also has more penetration.

[@tonyrome5584]

Well Buffalo, one thing I can say for sure is that you are a damn good shot! So many guys shooting multiple rounds at gel blocks miss their aiming point at short distances, just like you are shooting at (and HITTING your marks). Even more impressive is when you stretch a little revolver out to 50 or 100 yards and rarely miss. I really appreciate good marksmanship! Keep up the excellent work!

[@rob6850]

I'm telling Tools & Targets what you said!

[@buffalosoutdoors]

Thanks I appreciate your comment!

[@barryeason749]

Well done and a very satisfying video. Your point of aim, controlled shot placement and your cool hand firearm in hand experience overall meant that you presented a very neat results. Also as a bonus to you not having to use another gel block if you had premature exits to the side or top due to improper shot placements.

[@marquisesankey3526]

You are a great shot sir

[@thus6864]

The 22 master at it again. You made 22's cool again. Thanks Buffalo.

[@buffalosoutdoors]

Thanks!

[@jameskennedy6982]

Good job! 35 years as a LEO, convinced me, the .22 is a lethal as a snake bite! Semper fi

[@thomasj.harris5630]

I'm glad to see that ammo companies are making defensive 22 ammo now. I carry a Smith and Wesson 43C loaded with Federal Punch

[@joelspringman523]

Nice! 👍

[@kirkmooneyham]

If you do carry .22WMR for self-defense, that Federal Punch is the way to go. Thanks for the information, great video, as always.

[@buffalosoutdoors]

Thanks for the comment!

[@nowhereman108]

Excellent methodical presentation, Sir! One of the best I’ve seen on KZbin. We can really learn something from such a vid. This is the way it should be done. Thanks for your efforts and expertise!

[@buffalosoutdoors]

Glad you enjoyed it and found it useful! Thanks for the comment!

[@JohnnyBallou]

I agree! Great video, and it encourages me with same caliber in a Davis Derringer and Ruger 10-22M! I Use whatever ammo available , prefer Armoson. Thanks for your video!

[@Madmartigan4477]

Through the years, this has been, and is my go to channel. Thanks Buffalo.

[@buffalosoutdoors]

Thank you!

[@billdye3530]

Very good testing Sir. I've shot the Punch out of a Barkeep into gallon jugs of frozen water & it mushroomed down to the base. This was at 12ft. It will do the job but boy the price has gone up in last 3 months. Thank you for the comparison. 👍 🙏

[@buffalosoutdoors]

That's the truth about the pricing. People must be catching on to it. It's also gotten harder to find as of late.

[@billdye3530]

@@buffalosoutdoors I checked earlier but couldn't find any in stock but kygunco might have lr. 👍

[@alancranford3398]

Also important for chronograph readings are air temperature, altitude, and humidity--so you did good. Jacketed pistol bullets at less than 1000 fps impact velocity won't show a lot of expansion. The little bit you got in your test was better than I expected. Good work!

[@nathanlambshead4778]

Depends on the bullet construction and material. Softer lead core, thinner jacket, etc. will help a round expand without as much velocity. Federal is great for doing it right. So do the others, Speer being a Federal company, and Hornady has always been a solid ammo company.

[@bobjohnson1633]

That's a good reason to get jacketed soft points. Expands a little, doesn't need to expand at all

[@vlogfriendsutopia]

45 ACP Federal HST has no problem expanding to 0.85 inches at 100 yards. It's all about the bullet's construction and composition.

[@alancranford3398]

@@vlogfriendsutopia that's good to know--the FBI protocols test at ten FEET. Who tested Federal HST expansion at 100 yards and in what media?

[@vlogfriendsutopia]

@@alancranford3398 That'd be Lucky Gunner.

[@kennyellis5535]

Federal Punch is very impressive. Surprisingly it did better through the denim . Appreciate that information

[@buffalosoutdoors]

That surprised me too!

[@thecableguy1128]

I was thinking about this too. I think it’s all about quality control. Federal looks like it has better quality control than the others.

[@danielaramburo7648]

22 magnum is not a bad round for self defense. Low recoil and light.

[@thinkingbill1304]

It would be interesting to see if the performance trend followed in 4" to 6" and 18" guns. Great video as always. Thanks

[@GregR2023]

Yup! I have a 3" LCRx, 4" Heritage and Henry 20' rifle. I'd love to see what kind of velocity, energy, penetration and expansion these all get out of similar guns.

[@buffalosoutdoors]

I ain't afraid to wear a topic out! I proved that with the tiny revolver series. I can make this a series if need be! Thanks for the suggestion!

[@1982rrose]

All about learning

[@thinkingbill1304]

@@buffalosoutdoors Cool! I'm thinking that maybe the FTX and GD just needed a wee bit more velocity to perform correctly...maybe. By the same token would the Punch disintegrate if used from a rifle? Since all this ammo is advertised for PDW's, does any of it give advantage in longer barrels vs traditional 40grn SP's & HP's for personal protection, vermin & small game? Big ask, but the results would be very interesting.

[@phild9813]

Yeah I agree. The stats on paper are nearly identical from these three out of this gun. Does that continue or will there be more major differences in longer barrels at higher velocities???

[@fleetingimprov6171]

.22 Federal Punch is close to .32 S&W Long FMJ, which used to be (I think) a standard police carry round.

[@lylesmith5079]

I have two 22 magnums that I carry for a back up. I'm going to go with that Federal Punch. Thank you so much for these accurate tests.

[@tdeberry71]

That's a lot of great information, this gives someone looking to possibly carry a 22 mag for self defense data on how the the popular round may actually perform.

[@reggieneel7274]

My EDC is a Black Widow NAA 22 mag. i use critical defence so this video was very helpful. Thank you Buffalo!

[@MarkedInBlack]

I love the black widow 🕷️ She’s loaded with Federal 🤜

[@nctheo]

Thank you Buffalo. Your humility and honesty are greatly appreciated.

[@samhotstick13.28]

Well done Buffalo, another channel has done many tests with the Federal Punch LR and it always beats all the other LRs, so it's no surprise the Federal Punch 22 Mag is just as good.

[@YellowHammer26]

👍👍Thanks Buffalo,your ammo test are always top notch. I for one value your opinion on ammo selection.

[@buffalosoutdoors]

Thanks! I appreciate that, if I say something on camera it's what I truly believe at the time. In the past I have recommended the Gold Dot ammunition in 22 Magnum but I am not afraid to change my mind when presented with new evidence and I am a Punch man now when it comes to .22 Magnum for self defense.

[@michaelr.2428]

Great video. Not too much wasted time talking. All business. Great shooting. VERY informative demonstration. The .22 Mag is looking like a very versatile round.

[@Dsdcain]

Very well done comparison. As usual your videos of this type are well presented. Educational without being boring. Thanks for making this new one. Be safe out there, and take it easy man.

[@buffalosoutdoors]

I try to keep things moving, I have a bad habit of getting lost in the weeds sometimes...

[@PatriotNC1]

Got me sold on Federal Punch, brother. Amazes me how it penetrated further on the denim test. As usual, great video!

[@Sgt.7244]

I have stoked my 351PD with Hornady Critical Defense, I will now change that over to Federal Punch. Thanks for the enlightening video. 🇺🇸👮🏻‍♂️👍🏻

[@buffalosoutdoors]

Glad you found the video helpful. I was a Gold Dot man for years when it came to .22 magnum. This PUNCH stuff is a game changer.

[@kentuckywindage222]

Excellent job Buffalo! I know it adds a little more to the test in setups but in my rifle testing I found a lot more info using the chronograph at every stage of testing. You will know the velocity entering the gel block as well as the average velocity test. Just a suggestion to add to an already excellent test my friend. Thanks for the time, money and effort you put into these for all of us to see for free. Outstanding job! Keep'em coming!

[@phil20_20]

Thanks!very good to know. I'd seen tests for Punch .22lr that weren't as convincing, so it's good to know about the magnum.

[@dvldog_]

Thank you for an informative video that was no fluff, all stuff.... Wish more channels were as straightforward and informative as yours....

[@lanedexter6303]

Interesting! Like you, I wouldn’t choose 22 mag as my primary, but that Punch did better than I expected.👍

[@martyn6792]

As a Brit I enjoy watching these type of videos, I was a little surprised what a loud report those rounds had plus recoil, I remember shooting .22 LR from a pistol in the 1980's and the recoil was minimal

[@robertbernard651]

He's testing 22. Magnums they are a lot more powerful than 22 long rifle, probably 50% faster and louder

[@martyn6792]

@@robertbernard651 Thanks for the explanation

[@Bob-lt5hf]

First of all your shooting skills are AWESOME! I carry the S&W 351PD and is what I love to have on my person. Great video!

[@buffalosoutdoors]

Thank you! I appreciate that. The 351PD is on my radar, as soon as I find one priced right I'm all in!

[@electrochubb]

Amazing test Buff.! That Federal PUNCH is the best choice for these small revolvers.

[@wildbill6233]

That shed some light. Thanks for doing what you do Buffalo.

[@buffalosoutdoors]

I always appreciate ya watching buddy!

[@wildbill6233]

I'll always be watching. May take me a few days but you put out a can't miss show.

[@redfaux74]

I would definitely never carry a 22 anything as my EDC primary but your tests prove that it makes a capable secondary. Good video. 🎈🥳🎈 I'm considering my many options.

[@buffalosoutdoors]

Fair enough! Thanks!

[@buncha5651]

Great review I would feel comfortable carrying a 22 magnum with federal punch in it.

[@venturous1v]

This is exactly the video I needed. Thank you so much for the thorough testing of these.

[@johnjanoscrat8000]

Another superb "no nonsense" video. Big fan of the WMR and usually use the Punch and the 50 grain Game Shok loads. All the best! "The JJ" SW Penna.

[@ryans1129]

Exactly the test I was hoping to find for these 3 rounds. Just picked up the Ruger LCRX in 22 mag for mom. Well done sir!

[@olyone]

I love your honesty and charming and polite personality. thank you

[@buffalosoutdoors]

Thanks for the compliment!

[@dennistate5953]

Well done young feller! .22wmr good round for pesky nessies betwixt demands of final energies & weight. Imho.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

When I tested the Hornady & Speer from a PMR 30 in organic gel, the expansion of both was very impressive due to the higher velocities from the longer barrel. What was more interesting however, was that the 30gr V-Max did a lot of damage from pretty repetitive tumbling and deformation. Would be interesting to see what those do from this snub nose, if they still tumble and tear up a block...

[@Mid-Atlantic_Outdoors]

As usual great test. Federal punch line is impressive across the board for all calibers. I was die hard Hornady until I saw the light haha

[@buffalosoutdoors]

I was a Gold Dot man (22 magnum) and have recommended it many times in the past. However I am not afraid to change my mind when presented with new evidence! Thanks for watching!

[@twolak1972]

rim fire. 22 mag has the same penetration as a 38 special. Impressive as hell out of a rim fire.

[@Friedbrain11]

I prefer a 3.5" to 4" barrel but still, this gives a good idea of how well they perform. I knew the parallax on the camera caused the difference between what we saw and what you said. I just take your word for it myself. That Federal round was the clear winner.

[@gemo8806able]

It was a different climate the last time you tested the fed punch with impressive results, so now we have hot and cold testing, thank you for this.

[@mikekuczynski1552]

Nice review, my wife’s carry is a S&W 351PD and guess what she’s getting :-) Thanks for sharing.

[@mikeogden5256]

Every shooter I know love 22Mag

[@tbryan1697]

Your videos are really good, Buffalo. Very thorough and real world useful. I appreciate what you're doing and how you're doing it. Keep up the good work.

[@buffalosoutdoors]

Thank you! I really appreciate your comment!

[@jamespahlsson8133]

You are the best in the business, Thank you, Buffalo for all you do. Jim

[@christophermcclanahan5804]

Legit test! Thank you for putting in the work.🇺🇸

[@miker9043]

Excellent test ! Federal been putting out great ammo for many years !

[@buffalosoutdoors]

Thanks!

[@beetlefang]

Really well done - makes me reconsider rimfire as light clothes carry. I imagine that this took alot of time to do and edit. Thanks alot for making this.

[@twp616]

Great video, very informative. Would like to see this test done in a longer handgun barrel like my Ruger Single Six. 6 1/2 barrel.

[@garypaulson5202]

Always enjoy a Buffalo's Outdoors video! And that is a nice public service message at the end (too bad the people that most need to hear that are watching global warming or pandemic videos and missing the message)

[@buffalosoutdoors]

Thanks! I am glad that you enjoy the videos!

[@mtkz13]

Thank you for a GREAT!! review on these 3 rounds. I MUST ADMIT that Federal Punch is the REAL DEAL. I always loved my Gold Dot self defense but the Federal has kicked as@ in all the reviews I've seen so far. Will be my new self defense round.

[@buffalosoutdoors]

I feel the same way as you. I was a Gold Dot 22 magnum man for a very long time but better things are coming along it seems. I'm glad to see Federal pushing the envelope of what these rimfire rounds are capable of.

[@loyalegroup3929]

Outstanding test/comparison! Thanks so much for taking the time to create and share this. 👍

[@williamyoung3164]

Nicely done. No nonsense, just the information I was looking for on the 22 mag.

[@johnfairchild3421]

I love the 22 msg

[@tylerbennett3057]

Nice video here. Straight to the point without a bunch of BS or opinions and stories. And good call actually covering the block to simulate so exterior cover. Not many do that anymore it seems. Got what I came to see!

[@stevenhaneklaus8087]

I've been running 22 lrs and 22 magnums through the years and I've always had good results with them. But what a lot of people don't know or under stand is all of the 22 rim fires are the same caliber just different cartridges. I use mine for hunting smal game/ varmits, and i always use the cheapest round for target practice or when someone has me clean up or repair their 22. These are a fun round to shoot.

[@ericalbers4867]

In my experience, research, and what I've seen from other people Federal almost always comes through. For larger calibers the GD is a great round. Hornady Critical Defense is great too. I have no idea why people circle around those two so much when Federal rounds usually come in higher than the claimed velocities and meet penetration requirements dead on. Hell, the 9mm Syntech HP has to be the most consistent round I've ever seen by a mile. Even with FBI clothing standards it still penetrated the exact same amount as a bare block. All 10 shots stopped at the exact same depth like there was a brick wall in the gel. On top of that Federal is usually significantly less expensive than the ones most people talk about. Point is the Federal Punch didn't surprise me. Just reinforced my happiness in going with Federal in my EDC and home defense pistols. All that said, great job with the test. Keep up the good work. Stuff like this educates people and helps keep manufacturers on their toes.

[@CookieMonster_1969]

Excellent test. I don't use it as a carry, but I have a Walther WMP and I think I will pick up some of the Federal Punch. I do leave it loaded for my Mom when I am not home. I know she can handle the recoil of it if she needs to, and it has a 15 + 1 capacity.👍

[@charlesphillips5906]

Thank you so much for the velocity and energy comparison slide!

[@buffalosoutdoors]

Gonna start including that in all my ammo test videos! Thanks for the feedback!

[@fatjeezussouthtexasoutdoor5244]

I been carrying the Good Dots in my snubbie for a few yrs now but gonna try out that Punch ammo..another great video brother 👍!!!!

[@TheHillbilly1979]

Great video! Federal Punch is pretty impressive stuff… I keep my 9mm’s and my 40’s loaded with it… and If I had a 22 magnum handgun small enough for carry instead of a 6” heritage rough rider , I’d definitely use this ammo!

[@buffalosoutdoors]

Thanks! I appreciate your comment. It is indeed good stuff!

[@jacksavage4098]

Best again. Honest man, honest reviews.

[@buffalosoutdoors]

Thank you! I appreciate that!

[@johnkellmer5133]

I love the way you cover all the bases. You'd make Yogi Berra proud.

[@buffalosoutdoors]

Thank yee!

[@dawgbrooks5706]

Nice review Buff! I'm always impressed with your accuracy! Stay safe and healthy!

[@s.d.9143]

Much better, than a sharpen stick. Good video.

[@tjchawla]

Great stuff man. Been watching your vids for so many years now. 22 mag has become my favorite caliber. 357 mag for my revolvers but 22 mag for all of my Henrys. I've done the speer gold dot and hornady critical defense in my Henrys but would love to get these federals through a long barrel. Great stuff Buffalo, keep the tests coming 👏.

[@buffalosoutdoors]

I'm glad you enjoy the channel! I plan on shooting these through a long barrel soon, I've gotten a ton of comments asking for it!

[@tjchawla]

@@buffalosoutdoors awesome, looking forward to it!

[@ctsnider88]

Dang, that punch hits the spot. 😁

[@buffalosoutdoors]

It sure does!

[@sputnikjones6838]

Great test .thanks I have a box of the Hornady I saw a box of the spear at the shop today. I happy the 22 mag I being available again

[@amoruzz]

I've been waiting for a video on the the 22 mag self defense in a short revolver for petite women. I would like to see the Federal 327 mag done the same way. Great job 👍 Thank you!

[@barney214]

Thanks for the test! I'm putting Federal Punch in my 351C.

[@buffalosoutdoors]

That's what I did!

[@phillipfish1953]

Great presentation on some of the available ammunition. Deeply appreciate your dedcation to educating the shooting public on "field" tested products. Thanks!

[@SteveandSusiesHomestead]

Great test. I love the no hype approach .

[@timshelley8635]

Great test Buffalo! Punch knocks em out again!

[@happysnowfish]

Now try out the Remington 33gr WMR premier accu-tip.

[@2greeksandacamera]

We heard someone shooting up a storm in eastern Kentucky - the sound carried good today over the hills and tuned into your channel. Sure as tootin’ it was you shootin’

[@buffalosoutdoors]

Darn right it was me 😁 thanks for the comment!

[@2greeksandacamera]

@@buffalosoutdoors We liked your Little Badger review so well we bought one, in 22 magnum. We also liked Jeff Quinn’s on this in 22 mag and he got it for his grandson. Wonder if you could tell us more on what he said he thought was ok, to shoot 22LR through it some. He said the cases flare out some but he didn’t see anything wrong with it in the 22 magnum chamber for this gun. We really miss Jeff, he’s earned his glory with the Lord.

[@zakncooper]

Thank you for this, sir. I came here looking to learn how a .22 magnum hit. You did a great test. Thank you so much for this.

[@devilsden2283]

Looks like my 351C will be eating Punch...as usual, nice review Buffalo...👍

[@SpringerOwl]

Thank you. You set yourself apart with your accuracy but what got me to subscribe was describing the caliper measurements in .000’s. I’m a machinist.

[@mikehalfmoonmullins404]

Wooo I love 22 Mag . Thanks buffalo for the video

[@buffalosoutdoors]

I'm glad you liked the video man!

[@13BravoBiggunsM110SP]

Like to see how these 3 perform out of a PMR 30 and a MP 22 magnum

[@mkshffr4936]

Great info. Thanks Buff. One thing that you never see in testing of defensive ammo is muzzle flash. A few night shots would be an interesting addition.

[@ironhorse127]

Great video. 🤙🏻 The Federal Punch appears to be the best of the three

[@buffalosoutdoors]

It sure does.

[@jeffwinterroth7569]

Great video! I like your style - straightforward, thorough, plain and simple. You are a good communicator. I subscribed.

[@Shot_Gunner]

Excellent results here, keep the revolver videos coming Buffalo! :)

[@buffalosoutdoors]

Thanks!

[@BrokenBarBox]

Excellent job! You started this, you might as well continue on and see how they do in the 3” LCR, and any other barrel length you have

[@buffalosoutdoors]

Might as well! LOL Thank you!

[@AndyOamo]

I bought 2 bricks (1000 rounds) of the federal punch when it first came out, at a damn good price compared to what the price is now. It fragments all to hell when I shoot gel with my wmp, and the base passes through the whole block on some shots. The combination of gun and ammo really make you think about 22 wmr being a viable option.

[@buffalosoutdoors]

What velocities are you getting out of that WMP? It must be trucking!

[@AndyOamo]

@@buffalosoutdoors I don't have a chronograph, but you do... You should definitely do a test with these 3 out of your wmp. Put a dot on that sucker and shoot groups too.

[@jimmysaintsing7919]

Great video Buff! Straightforward and honest as always!

[@waxworse]

Unbiased results. Very good. Thank you.

[@buffalosoutdoors]

You are welcome! And thank you for the comment!

[@goaski474]

Just found your channel, first watch. Man this the best ammo review I've seen. Great shooting also! Concise, right to the point with no fluff. Just subscribed - thanks!

[@buffalosoutdoors]

@@goaski474 thanks for subscribing. Fresh videos starting up in a couple weeks! I post “shorts” at least once a week as well.

[@rdmckeever7645]

Excellent video as usual. I'm adding Punch ammo to my shopping list for my wife's CC 22 mag. Thanks for the quality of all your videos & testing..

[@mofatjippyfransisco713]

I will be grabbing the Punch for my 3" LCRx , beautiful test !

[@ehayes5217]

a great video, espec since I often carry .22WMR! Again, thanx so much🤓🇺🇸