22 MSFS 2020 SCENERY TUTORIAL - REMOVE TREES, WATER, AND BUILDINGS - ADD TREES, WATER, AND BUILDINGS

In this video, I go over the use of polygons. Both exclusion and inclusion polygons. Other content covered is Developers Mode, Installing SDK, and Samples. Using the Developer Camera and setting up tools needed.
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Chapters:
00:00 Start
00:35 What I do
01:24 Developer Mode and installing SDK
03:08 Tools
04:37 Using the Developer Camera
07:52 Video subject: Using Polygons

[@ed.mil.5029]

Very detailed explanation, thanks to you I've learned how to change the default scenery of my local area and airfield to look a lot more like in real life. Good stuff.

[@patriotsix5880]

Thank you, Ed

[@Mattdylan101]

Literally one of the best tutorials I've ever seen. And that's coming from a channel who got all their subscribers from tutorial videos. Very detailed and not too monologue. Bravo and thank you. Subscribed!

[@patriotsix5880]

This is the best comments I have ever received. All I ever wanted to do was help people. Nothing else matters to me. Thank you for the kind words.

[@hobanagerik]

Thanks to this tutorial I was able to removed the trees from the threshold of a favourite bush strip. Thank you so much. 🙌👏

[@patriotsix5880]

You are welcome. Thanks for watching.

[@japp3playzz]

I am busy in a Patriot Six watching tutorials Spree!

[@patriotsix5880]

Good. Could you make sure to take a break for sanity? 🤣

[@joyceracing99]

Thank you for making these videos. Great learning tool!

[@patriotsix5880]

You are welcome.

[@sky173]

You make some really good tutorials. Thanks for sharing.

[@patriotsix5880]

Thanks for the kind words.

[@Rizz0080]

another great video, after all my time searching for "good" tutorials on making scenery for msfs, and failing to find anything that actually works, it's a great pleasure to be able to watch your vids for simple step by step instructions and actually have them work, keep up the work Patriot, it's very much appreciated.

[@patriotsix5880]

Awe thanks. It takes a while for the content to be seen. I have been at it a while now but the algorithm takes its time. I have noticed a lot of the scenery videos are dated and SDK changes. As annoying as it might be, sometimes you have to repeat the same content at a later time. Thanks for watching.

[@Rizz0080]

@@patriotsix5880 I've been finding that when i do a polygon and remove water it messes up the terrain mesh, terraforming fixes that issue but also adds the water back, any ideas why?

[@patriotsix5880]

@@Rizz0080 I don't know. You can try this though. Join my Facebook Group and you can upload images for me to see. A picture sometimes explains a lot that is hard to put into words. facebook.com/groups/788136852324508 Terroforming can create wacky results. If I see what it looks like in a pctire when you remove water I can help you resolve the issue.

[@fsx2013mike]

Patriot 6 mike here to thank you for your help with the floored roads you said in the video you run across flooded roads please if you have look at Sligo Ireland in msfs and as you fly towards ballisodare you find one long road there and it looks terrible I fly helicopters in msfs low and slow please keep up the great work you do I real appreciate your videos thanks

[@patriotsix5880]

Were you able to remove the water?

[@elgroxo]

Thanks!

[@patriotsix5880]

You are welcome friend

[@Tornext_Games]

Thank you!

[@patriotsix5880]

Welcome!

[@stupdasso619]

Thank you so very much for sharing your knowledge and most of all thank you for keeping your videos up to date!! I have one question. Can you use a polygon to get rid of terrain spikes that are put in by the sim? They are created because the sim doesn't know how to render palm trees or tall eucalyptus trees, especially here in Southern California. Again thank you so much and thank you in advance for any help you can give!

[@patriotsix5880]

I know what you are seeing. Unfortunately, the resolution is not sufficient in locations with 3D photogrammetry to render a crisp image when you are up close. Go to Google Earth or Bing 3D maps and zoom in as close as you can, and you will see the images become distorted, and trees are more a blob than a tree. It is a bandwidth-saving sacrifice. The best trees you see in the simulator are those generated by AI. You are on the right track and the right video. You only need a tip, if you don't mind. All 3d photogrammetry is treated the same in the simulator. In 3D areas, the programming does not see the difference between a palm tree and a building. You may be already figuring out a solution while reading this. You can remove the trees with an exclusion polygon and select exclude all buildings. Southern CA is dense, so you need to be careful with the polygon placement, so you don't exclude buildings you want to keep. It will be tedious work, but you can do it. I have palm trees from payware or standard Asobo scenery in the objects library. If you do, too, you can replace the trees you remove with a palm tree object. You can place an object in the middle of an exclusion polygon easily. The task is monotonous, but if you enjoy building scenery, everything you do is detail oriented. Finally, if you enjoy this type of work and want to learn more and improve, you are welcome to join a group of us that help each other with scenery work. People from all over the world are in the group, and you are welcome to join. The link is in the description, but I will link it here. I also have a Discord server for support. I do not live on Discord, but the server is there to help my subscribers. Discord is great for screen-sharing when somebody has an obstacle to overcome while building scenery. Sharing images is a more effective method of troubleshooting issues than KZbin chat. 😀 Thanks for watching. I hope this helps. facebook.com/groups/788136852324508

[@harmandeepsingh6598]

Thanks

[@patriotsix5880]

You are welcome.

[@bredd4123]

Is there a way to type the coordinates for a single Polygon point instead of moving each one? I'm adding a lake and it's taking along time moving each point using translate. I'm trying to make it exact. Once I create my lake, do I have to change the depth/elevation or will float planes land without those changes? If you already have a tutorial for this let me know. I love your videos. Great help!!!

[@patriotsix5880]

Hello Bredd. Thanks for watching. I was confused at first because building a polygon is a snap. However, once I read the entire post, it makes sense. I have never tried to move a polygon point by typing, but you should be able to type in the Gizmo. If you use translate, you will notice the coordinates in the Gizmo change as you move. Still, it will take time. I get it. When you have that perfection bug, it makes you work harder. If you want precision, it's going to take time. But you will be satisfied in the long run. In full disclosure, I have never flown or landed a float plane. You can use terraform and lower the elevation, but I would do that as a last resort. Terraforming can make a mess because it is clunky. I would build the lake, add lake water, and try it with the aircraft. I hope it works for you. If not, you can experiment with terraforming. Fingers crossed, and good luck.

[@elgroxo]

It looks like now before you "Build package" you need to add a marketplace thumbnail (412x170), if you dont it gives you a error in the console and doesn't create the layout.json and manifest.json

[@patriotsix5880]

You are correct. The short story is that I recommend deleting MarketPalce data, or you could build a thumbnail the correct size. For ease and to remain error-free, I go with the first option. I made a video about the latest SDK changes. You can find it here and pick the chapter you need. kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4mzfWOkZdB0lZY

[@bufftheowl]

Is there a quick and simple way to turn off all water effect so that beautiful places light the end of glaciers and other fine detailed bodies of water or streams are in just the satellite images form. I know this would get rid of the reflections if it were possible.

[@patriotsix5880]

I saw a video where a guy worked on graphic settings to compare FPS. He changed shadow details or reflections, changing the amount of reflection from water. It was probably reflections, but I was only half-watching it. Try changing these settings to see if you can get the effect you are looking for.

[@pilotmpl]

The airport I'm working on has a terminal that's far to high, in real life its 2 stories tall, in fs 2020 it's about 5, is there a way to adjust the height of a stock building? It is not photogrammetry.

[@patriotsix5880]

Yes. What you have to do is search through the scenery library and look for an approximation. Of course, you will not get an exact match. In this video where I typed "buildings" in the Objects window search bar; that is what you should do. There are many buildings in the library so it is a search process by trying every building until you find a close match. If you have a picture of the building as is and how you want the building to look you can go to facebook.com/groups/788136852324508 I will approve you and you can upload images for me to see. I will try to help you find something close, if possible.

[@pure4wood501]

Hi. I followed your instructions and updated the SDK and installed the samples. After that, however, I only have 3 folders in the Samples folder and unfortunately no SimpleScenery in them. Been working on it for a day! Have removed everything and reinstalled but unfortunately the folder SimpleScenery is still missing..... What can I do wrong?

[@patriotsix5880]

Ok here is a solution. I have uploaded scenery folders on Flightsim.to. You can grab the scenery folders with a simple download. flightsim.to/file/35954/sdk-simple-scenery-package-folders

[@caberawitmahal]

should i use different folder for different airport? i only use it for removing vegetation

[@patriotsix5880]

Yes. To edit an airport, you must start an airport folder instead of a scenery folder. I have videos that walk through the process of editing an existing airport. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWSQnJJum9Bjaqs kzbin.info/www/bejne/i526mnSYncqlqck

[@caberawitmahal]

@@patriotsix5880 thanks

[@Despiser25]

My airport has a water landing trough next to the runway. Can I do that with these tools ya think?

[@patriotsix5880]

Thank you for watching. Okay, I'd like to ensure you and I are on the same page. Does the airport have standard runways and an additional water runway? If that is true, yes, it can be done. It is probably better if somebody with experience tries it, but it can be done in SDK. Feel free to let me know if you need help.

[@Despiser25]

@@patriotsix5880 Yes, both runways parallel. The Airport is 1C9 (Frazier Lake). Thanks for the reply mate, thanks! I wont bother asking for help at this point. Ill give it a go. Im slowly trying to come to grips with even the most basic things. Im sure I have a lot more videos to watch before then, lol.

[@patriotsix5880]

@@Despiser25 It takes time. Be happy with baby steps. You will get there with experience.

[@kenharrison6161]

can you recommend a tutorial on how to remove static aircraft?

[@patriotsix5880]

I don't have a video removing static aircraft, but it is simple. If you know how to make packages, ETC, build a package and use an "exclusion rectangle." Adjust the rectangle size to include what you want excluded but try to avoid objects you don't want to exclude. Use as many rectangles as you need. You can choose to remove all objects on the exclusion rectangle or tick the objects you want to remove. If you need to know the basics, I recommend this video first. kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4mzfWOkZdB0lZY Good luck. Please let me know how it goes. P6

[@kenharrison6161]

@@patriotsix5880 I tried all the exclusion options - delete library, delete all, delete simobjects with no success. Eventually found the library involved (Library1v14) and removed it from the Community folder. It removed the offending gliders.

[@braudoux]

Hello Patriot. I have created a project to edit an existing airport scenery and would like to remove some buildings of the scenery. I used the polygons tool and exclude buildings otion but they cannot be deleted... I don't know why!!! Any idea?

[@patriotsix5880]

Hello and thanks for watching. There are a few variables we have to talk about. If this is a standard Asobo airport, you can remove scenery objects including buildings. Assets that are tied to the airport package like taxiways, runways, and maybe even the control tower cannot be removed with a polygon. To make those changes, you need to edit the airport. If it is a payware airport, you can have trouble removing items. I have the payware KATL and oddly both the Asobo tower and the Payware tower are side by side. I wasn't able to get the payware creator interested so I attempted to remove the Asobo tower with a polygon and was unsuccessful. What airport are you working on and what are you trying to remove? I can run a test and see what happens.

[@braudoux]

@@patriotsix5880 Hello. This a payware scenery converted from P3D and provided by a friend. I am afraid that all objects are in a block... I am unable to retrieve the start points on the runway, even the taxiways that I can not edit... I have tried the Exclusion rectangle and then, all objects have disappeared, even with a small rectangle :(. I think that I will resign. I am currently attempting to add some parking point to start the flights but I have plenty of errors (point not linked to main graph) that I am unable to resolve :( And of course, I cannot save the work done because of the errors. I spent already a couple of days and I feel running in a one-way street 🤣

[@patriotsix5880]

@@braudoux I understand. Yes, when dealing with taxiways and start points you have to take a totally different approach to the project. All navigation-controlled items are part of the airport package. In addition, you have to deal with items disappearing while in the Developer Camera. I am not sure why that happens. I assume it is a limitation in the SDK. if you want to give it a try, will link two videos. The reason I am linking two is that in one I edited an existing airport but I did not change the taxiways. In the second video, I build taxiways from scratch at a fictional airport but the process is the same. Edit and existing airport: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i526mnSYncqlqck Building taxiways: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYqln42idt55btU Taxiway works starts here: 19:20 Add Taxiways It is time-consuming so set a lot of time aside. It can be done but it is not an easy fix like using polygons to remove items. I am sure I mention this in the video but all taxiways have to be linked and contiguous to get by the errors.

[@androidfarmer8863]

Thanks for the great video. I tried it out & followed along on a small, relatively unimportant airport :) in case I screwed something up. Worked great, and a tiny grass strip near me now has a small paved parking area and a courtesy van, as well as a mystery luggage container. However... when I try to edit any other airport now, the elevation seems to get messed up upon loading, and as I scroll around a bit, the ground-level-polygons (aprons, runways) disappear under the terrain, leaving only satellite imagery visible. Further, I seem to only have -some- objects available. When I did the first airstrip, each category was full of stuff. Now, most are completely empty. Any ideas what might be causing this? Thanks again.

[@patriotsix5880]

Thanks. Here is a tip, you can't screw things up. All of your work is in the scenery folder you are working and a simple delete puts everything back to normal. So, don't worry about messing up. Let me unpack your questions now. When working in a complicated airport, sometimes in Developer Mode, airport components vanish as you zoon around with the camera and leave only the satellite images. I am not sure why this happens. Without more information, I assume it is limitations in the SDK but that is a total assumption on my part. it can't be a memory issue on my end because I have a lot of ram compared to most. As for the objects, that has me perplexed because I have only seen that issue when I had nothing selected on the right pane in the objects window. Make sure you tick "all" and you should see all of the objects. I hope that answers your question as that is the only reason I know the objects window will be empty. The problem you mentioned about the scenery vanishing happens to me also. I work around it as best I can.

[@androidfarmer8863]

@@patriotsix5880 Got it - thanks again. Hit the "All" selector & have my objects back. However, unlike when I followed your tutorial, for some reason, the objects I'm adding now don't show up in FS (just trying to add a few cars and things to a different airport) but the scenery is found in the Content Manager.... any likely culprits?

[@patriotsix5880]

@@androidfarmer8863 Hmmm if the package that holds the objects you need shows up in the content manager they should appear in the objects search. That is perplexing. It is likely something very simple. if you know the name of the package the items are located in you can look at the packages loaded in on the right side of the objects window right below the "all" selection. You can even select that specific package if you want and see the items in the package. If the package is not in the objects window, then it is not loaded. I have never seen this before. There are standard items as part of the normal Asobo scenery and they all normally appear in the objects window. You can limit what you see if you enter any query in the search bars on the objects window. If there is no query going on and "all" is ticked, everything should show up that is loaded. If the problem persists, there are other options we can try. We can get as granular as needed. Let me know if we need to go to the next level. Good luck, friend.

[@androidfarmer8863]

@@patriotsix5880 OH! They show up properly in the editor; I make the package, put it in the Community folder, restart the sim, but the airport is just as before. hmm....

[@patriotsix5880]

@@androidfarmer8863 Sorry. I misunderstood the problem. To be clear, you save the scenery, then build the package, and then put the package in the community folder. Right? If you follow all of the aforementioned steps and still the added objects are not there, please, give me the ICAO of the airport you are working so I can look for myself. Do you have any payware or freeware at this same airport or is it stock Asobo airport?

[@AzzySunfire]

I don't undertand this. How do I do exclusion rectangle? I did it but it doesnt save. I open it and the exclusion rectangles are gone. Why can't I just edit the scenery and remove the objects I don't like?

[@patriotsix5880]

I don't know why the exclusion rectangle is not working. It is a well-known and used tool within the community. I need help to answer through chat because I can't see what you see. You would need access to the entire scenery folder to edit scenery that you did not build. If this is payware that you added to the community folder, all you have is the package. The same applies to payware you buy through the store that goes into the official folder. I have reached the limit of my help through KZbin chat. If you have a Facebook account, you can join my Facebook group to get help from me or others in the community. Having the ability to upload images is very helpful. Good luck. facebook.com/groups/788136852324508

[@AzzySunfire]

@@patriotsix5880 I do not use facebook. I made a project, set down an exclusion rectangle, and saw the object disappear (in the editor) then saved and compiled the project, got a folder and package. Put it where my other packages are, but the exclusion rectangle doesn't vanish the object there.

[@jonnie2bad]

i put my package in my community folder but it never shows up in the sim, i don't get it.

[@patriotsix5880]

I don't get it, either. Something needs to be added. I laid out the steps in the other comment on video 44.

[@jonnie2bad]

@@patriotsix5880 I think it had something to do with the way I named some stuff. I don't really know, I renamed everything to the exact wording you used on everything and it loads fine now. I don't know this is all greek to me. Thank you for the good tutorial!

[@ilynx2008]

Hello there and happy new 2023...let go to the point : in 14:35 it gets totaly confusing with tha actions,when you say "click in the midle here..." but in the middle of where,exactly? did not get the get of of this property not going to work,at all...please can you explain in a better way,until 15:00 i´m very in the dark...tried to review over and over and no understanding of my part...thank you!

[@ilynx2008]

Oh nevr mind,I got it...I´m trying to remove a beacon tower in the middle of the apron,but did not work ,built the poly around it but cant find a way to remove it...ticking on "remove all buildings did not work...affff

[@patriotsix5880]

@@ilynx2008 Thanks for watching. To remove airport items beyond standard scenery you have to edit the airport. I can point you to a tutorial but in the tutorial I did not remove the tower. in the video However, the option is there to remove the tower. kzbin.info/www/bejne/i526mnSYncqlqck Good luck.

[@ilynx2008]

@@patriotsix5880 Thank you once more...I got it! Now I´m trying your tut video "Bring 3D photo..." I download the earth2msfs tool, (called "resume" from the download link,put it on the community folder ,run it,but FS2020 did not recognize it,FS2020 did not install it...did everything else like in the video,at the end when I hit "save scenery" ,it stop working,the save dialog refuses to come up! I´m spending hour and getting somewhat frustrated with the complexity and NOT getting it right! as far as I went was removing thes and that beacon tower,buy I want my airport (SBBH,in Brazil) to be in 3D! thank you very much once more...any idea why it isnt working?

[@patriotsix5880]

@@ilynx2008 I am not totally sure why it isn't working, but there are a couple of things you should know first. The tool will only work if areal 3D photogrammetry exists. 3D is not available all over the world and is most prominent in the US. A simple test is to use Google Earth to look at the area you want in 3D. Zoom in as close as you can. Are the buildings really 3D photogrammetry or flat 2D picture? This part you will not like but I have to tell you straight. Even if you have 3D photogrammetry at the airport, you will be completely dissatisfied with the result. The resolution is not good enough for an airport. In fact, it will look horrible. Everything present at the time the 3D areal images are captured will be included i nthe tiles. That goes for aircraft on the runway, gates, and parking. But they will look like they are melting due to the low resolution. The best way to improve an airport is with scenery models in the scenery library. It will not be exact but close enough. We can fix the tool to work for you. That I am 100% certain of but the tool will not help your airport. The good news is that it is not difficult to dress up an airport. I have made many videos on adding scenery and they all work the same. Here is one that is specific to airports. It is a little old but the methods still work. kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3K9iKeAmLuBbq8

[@ilynx2008]

@@patriotsix5880 Hi there sir,You are absolutely right! I´ve tried and got a 3D scenery following your tut video,BUT the hangars and objects apperaed like melting,smeared,zombieland like! Iam sad that as of 2023 Asobo and the community have not had a sinple solution for this! all that fuzz about FS2020 (2 years and a half yeras old now)and all this mess! Its a shame! But then again thankyou very much!

[@gunnarschlueter]

Hello Sir. Thank you for your many good videos on the topic of MSFS and creating scenery with SDK. I come from Germany and have problems with the English language. It's about the polygons. Although I see a red cross, I can't draw a red line to draw a polygon. Do you have any ideas? That would be nice !! Thanks and Regards

[@patriotsix5880]

Hello from the USA. Thanks for watching. To build a polygon, you must hold the left control key down and click the left mouse button each time you want to make a point. Could you let me know if you are doing it this way? Wait to release the left control key until all points are built. When you come to the last point, double-click on the left mouse button, and then you can release the left control key. Good luck and best regards.

[@gunnarschlueter]

@@patriotsix5880 Many thanks for the quick response. Excellent. I tried it as they wrote it. Holding down the mouse button for a long time doesn't work. Don't click once either. There is no line to the next point. unusual. I restarted the PC several times. That doesn't help either. Unfortunately there are hardly any current tutorials in German. Many greetings to America.

[@patriotsix5880]

@@gunnarschlueter Are you still having trouble? I don't think restarting the PC will fix the problem. I think it is probably how you are doing it but I do not know for certain since I am not there with you. Holding dow the mouse button is not the way to do it. You hold down the mouse button down. at 12:43 is the exact way you do it. If you continue to have trouble we can get on Discord and figure it out. Do you speak English at all? I can't understand German but I can get through even bad English.

[@gunnarschlueter]

@@patriotsix5880 Thanks for the reply. I created a new folder exactly according to your video and did everything according to your instructions. still I can't create a polygon. I see the red cross, but I can't draw a red line. no matter how I press the left mouse button. I can't find it on the discord server. what is her name there? Your link in the video description didn't take me to your discord account. Thanks for your help !!

[@patriotsix5880]

Try this. discord.gg/gWAfZ3vm28 I do not stay on Discord all of the time so once you get in, let me know in this chat thread with a time we can hook up. I can accommodate most times because I am often up during your daytime. Give me a date and a time and I will get on Discord.

[@franzenglberger8571]

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