224 Valkyrie - H4350 with 90gr Sierra Match King

Testing the 90gr Sierra Match King with Hodgdon H4350 in 224 Valkyrie. Also testing another box of Federal Fusion factory ammo.
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[@mtnshooter2487]

The 224/6.5 twist /90/ H4350 groups are some of the best I've seen Jon shoot. Nice !

[@THutch556]

Great Vid JRB, I much prefer this old style format of shooting a ladder test for charge weights, instead of picking random max charges. I have been using that swage gauge tool for a few years, excellent tool and makes setting up the Dillon supper swage for crimp removals very easy, Allows you to not go overboard. I have ordered from them on Sunday night and received shipping information within 30 min. The family that runs that business are good people. Excellent shooting JRB, looks like WOA barrels are delivering also. I sure like the WOA barrels I have in .223. Keep up the great work.

[@tobyn7649]

Great video, great information. Once I started loading the OAL to 2.30 everything I loaded and shot through the 1:6.5 twist barrel shot good to great groups. I ended up using RL-17 and massed produced. I was shooting .4-.5 groups with the RL-17 max load. Next up is working up a dear hunting load with the solid copper bullets for the Valkyrie and the .223 Wylde. Good luck!

[@CaveWyatt]

Discovered that gauge a couple of months ago and it has been a huge help with my hand swaged 300 BLK case conversions, which pop the primers out pretty regularly. I guess I’ll have to get one of those pocket trimming tools, too. I’m still not convinced the Valkyrie round is necessary yet. I may stick with 77 gr .223 and then my Grendel for heavier bullets and longer distance and not worry about the gap in between. Especially since the Valkyrie eats up brass at such a high rate so maybe not a reloader’s dream. But I’ll keep watching, maybe you can change my mind.

[@sjohnson1776]

I ordered both tools. Thanks for the review!

[@CowboyJP]

I had to watch this at work! excellent videos as always it's the highlight of my week. good stuff keep up the great work, it is greatly appreciated!

[@jwiatrek]

Just got my primer pocket guage ... Hornady 6mm Creedmoor brass last 3 maybe 4 loadings. Thanks for mentioning this gauge ... Awesome tool for finding the hornady blown brass ...

[@z50com]

I worked in the aerospace industry, our Go No/Go gages had a red and green side to them. A dab of paint will make it so you have fewer mistakes when taking readings.

[@daviddale3624]

Love those longer gas systems, This is especially true for the larger than .223 Calibers. Great results with the 90s. Yes 18" bbl is giving up very little and easier to handle.

[@WestDesertShooter]

This is great fun, I have similar components for Reloading that you’re testing at the same time I am testing. Definitely interested to see how our results compare. Hoping to hit the desert this weekend and punch some paper. I have 88elds loaded with H4350 and RL17 right now. And I have a box of 95s waiting for the next trip. As well as I will be grouping the 53Vmax and getting velocities with that. Excited for the next, I really wish I could do load development in my backyard

[@ansebbianvonhessen7570]

Hey Buddy Do you have any data to share on your experiment?

[@biggerbehindthetrigger2814]

Between you and Fourtune Cookie I'm going to the poor house. He got me into the RCBS case rep kit. I decided to go with the Lyman fr the case leinght gauge. I was watching how the author of the video sold me on it. I'm building a case prep table. I have o get my brother helping me build it. I can d it by myself but it's me fun to work on something we both worked on. I bought the past 2'" chopsaw t cut den .223 to make .300 blackout. I want all the tools on ones bench so I don't have a cluttered table. I'm going to get to work on the when my Lyman turret press kit gets here. Then m going to rearrange my loading room going to put the computer and printer down there. Sir I hope you don't mind that I steal a bit of your rirmat for your videos. I love the shooting part. I am getting a old used DSL to put down range the soI can get that split screen for shooters. Who knows in a few years I will have every upper for the A-15 and AR 10 lowers. My finger is on that red candy like button that says order the .300 blackout upper. I'm holding back so I can learn the .223/5.56 round. I want to see what he difference in the two steps rate on my 18" 5.56 with a 1/9 twist rate. I know that the heavier bullets don't like the slow twist rate. I might go to a 1-8 twist. I would like to shoot 77 gn and up. Not much choice but I want to try. I think that the 55gn will shoot the best if I need advice I will ask you. You seem to know more about the AR platform rifle. I will get the .300 by Christmas and I would love to get a 458 socom for my dad. He loved the 45-70 and the 50-110. The most modern rifle my dad had was a M1A/ M14. As usual I love the videos. I hope to have one out today.is just a first Firearm video chalange that Fourtune Cookie started several years ago and 243 outdoors picking it up and started to pass it around. Something quick and then asy to do. You should one also. Anyway happy shooting and keep those great videos coming.

[@SuperUncleRyan]

I love watching Fortune Cookie's videos. His voice and teaching style are like anxiety therapy. Of course tons of information like Johnny.

[@tedweldon8442]

Great video, I’ve been using that primer pocket gauge for a while now, it seems right on the money. Same experience with the Valkyrie brass about 30% fail rate on the primer pockets.

[@Shadow2]

Awesome work man! Thank you for sharing it and your hard work!

[@Arick817]

Thanks for the testing the 224 I’ve been really interested in that cartridge.

[@wlehtola]

Paint the shaft of the primer pocket no go red it'll clear up confusion in the future

[@benjaminbrown1179]

Great video, and nice to prove that federals line of fusion ammo isn't loaded for precision. We have pulled boxes of that junk, and reloaded their pills for more accurate deer killing cartridges. Projectile works great!!! Imma have to say that as tempting as valkyrie is..... I'm a .264 fan, and have been for 20 years. This is great knowledge, and saves me 1000's in time and labor. Love that you love reloading, and thank you for everything!!!... Getting the tool!

[@davidunderwood3605]

I haven't pulled the book out but I believe the swaging kits used on good press able to be used as a swage press [ I believe your turret press qualifies) will swage the pocket also and uniform the size. I would go a step further and use a depth cutter to uniform the pocket depth.

[@cogunlover5550]

Johnny you being a hunter should look into the 8.6 Creedmoor. Yes I said that right. 8.6 Creedmoor is a 338 bullet atop a necked up 308 piece of brass. Like a big boy version of the 300 blk out.

[@paunchouspilot6757]

Johnny, I checked the Hornady reload data for the 88 ELD & used the published COL of 2.25 w/ CFE 223 @ 25.5 & 26 gr w/ S&B brass and primers. The 25.5 Avg velocity for 8 shots was 2731 ES 16 SD 6.That group was nothing special. The 26.0 gr Avg velocity for 10 shots (all shot consecutively) was 2771 ES 45 SD 13 from a 22" 7T Criterion, Craddock precision barrel. I think somewhere between these 2 charges is a node that will get stabilization past 1000 yds and a MOA or less group. The brass and primers looked good so that is encouraging. I think I will stick with the S&B 6.8SPC brass and resize it from now on. Don't give up on the CFE quite yet. 5 shots of the 10 shot group measured CTC 1.675 Vertical x .732 Horiz . The other 5 measured .635 vertical x .222 horiz. in a cluster. All shot from a front and rear bag. I hope I'm getting close to the sub MOA load. I ordered the brass from Cavitybackedbulletts.com and they all came primed so I was able to re-use the primers after resizing the brass. Just thought I would pass my info along. Hope this assists someone. Thanks for your continued efforts.

[@williamkennison8920]

It looks like you found the sweet spot @ 26.9gr in the 1:6.5 twist it makes me glad I got the 6.5 twist for my build. I'm wondering if the 1:6 will tighten things up.

[@anchorbait6662]

I had an idea. Maybe paint a little red nail polish on the no-go side to help you remember what side is go and what side is no-go. Obviously don't paint the tip where the size is critical, but the base of the gague. Great video as always :)

[@ostiariusalpha]

I put red and green on mine, saves a lot of confusion.

[@anchorbait6662]

@@ostiariusalpha exactly!

[@joelclark2130]

You shed some great light on the subject thank you for an awesome video great information. There been in too many bad reviews on the 224 Valkyrie... I would like a little cost analysis sometimes and how much it cost per round for each cartridge.

[@shanerhodes925]

Cool this has me back interested in this caliber again I was very excited about it at first bit I lost it quickly bit looks like things might be coming around. Thanks Johnny. And when will you be releasing the 300 win mag. If you would please try 180gr Sierra with rl23 or 26 I like that load in my rifle ALOT!! And would be interested in seeing how it does in other rifles as well. Thanks again sorry for the book.

[@21norseman]

I have a SLR adjustable gas block with clicks. After shooting if you open it all the way then close it all the way and return it to your setting it will stay movable, and close it to clean the barrel. This should also work with the Odin Works gas block with clickers. This is from the SLR instructions that came with my gas block.

[@diablo114873]

Underwood ammo is making a 72 grain load at 3100 fps using leigh defense controled chaos round check it out

[@mark120371]

Underwood is doing some great things with the Controlled Chaos projectiles. They have some great Grendel rounds also 110gr Controlled Chaos and 105gr Match Solid pushing 2800fps with good a BC.

[@jerryc3828]

love underwood ammo...

[@nc_classics_9610]

Thanks John, now ill never find H4350 on a store shelf...good thing i got a guy

[@bikeboy0012]

Up here in Montana. I've seen h4350 in every store I've been in. 29$ usually.

[@JPsaysno]

Johnny ! We love your work. Any chance of us seeing a target cartridge series ? Maybe 6br or dasher maybe even 6xc. We would love to follow a series like that for a bolt gun.

[@jassonco]

Yep, I'm just gonna wait til all y'all work out the many bugs of this rushed to market cartridge, before I even think about giving it a go?! 224 AR seems like a better option? Good stuff as always!

[@rykelee]

Not all 7" twist barrels are actually 1 in 7. I have one that's stamped 7" but counting the revs with a tight fit, brush/patch it reads 7.75". Go figure.

[@jonjames4281]

The bad primer pockets thing is a real kill-joy. I've seen in other vids (shooting at range) where it likes to shred bullets but that seems to happen beyond 100yrds for the most part. I'm really questioning the worth of 224v now even more. maybe they'll figure all this stuff out in a year or two but for now if i'm going to blow money up a cats ass i'd sooner get a 338 Lapua. but great vid as always, thanks

[@jonathanrogers9961]

interesting. I have a swaging set for my press, it seems a lot faster than cutting the crimp and the cutter will eventually wear out.

[@Megahellastylin]

Johnny THANK YOU for your tenacity with the 224V load testing and achieving such great results. The middle group for the 6.5 twist barrel is phenomenal, and very encouraging. Question: Can you verify these part numbers for the Hornady Seating die/micrometer/stem combination you are using for the SMK 90gr and 95gr? Seating die: #044102 Microjust: #044090 Seating stem: #397100

[@Megahellastylin]

@Johnny's Reloading Bench I know in the video you say you will talk about the seating die, but I am hoping you can verify what I have above. I just finished loading a ladder of charges, with starline brass, RE17, and Hornady ELD 88gr. Due to the compressed charges my ogive lengths (and OALs) were moving around. Adjusting a standard die is a PIA in comparison to the die you are using.

[@cogunlover5550]

Another great video! Thanks for doing these for us reloaders. Great format and love your commentary and insight. I always look forward to your videos. Hey where is the ar10 in 308 and 6.5 vids???!!!

[@hclchgm]

Johnny, thanks for saving us all some money and time, the cartrige, rifle or something about them together truely is miserable. It may be one of those cartridges that has no home in a semi auto, but might be better suited to a BR bolt gun.

[@J9_j3]

i wonder if there is a tool to convert small rifle brass to large rifle brass so you can maybe get couple more firings out of it. also those loose primer pocket cases can be used at least once if you apply crimp after seating the primer. just a thought.

[@dominickdelfino7552]

Now I have no explanation for my crappy groups with H4350 other than my crappy shooting! I did order that primer pocket go no/go guage as the brass is garbage and I am throwing a way a ton too. My video will be up tonight. Is the starline brass any better than the Federal? I dont think Hornady is selling brass seperately as of yet.

[@dcardenal]

I'm really hoping you get access to a .300 HAM'R upper to play with in the same vein as the .224 Valkyrie series, as I'm interested to see how it compares in terms of abusing brass and primer pockets.

[@308guy8]

Jimhans 1 that makes since to me ive never seen a 243 super short mag in a ar platform it probably has its own set of problems as well

[@jimhans1]

The Go/No-Go gauge should only have ONE side, the Go, go into the primer to the bottom of the primer pocket, the other side, No-Go, CAN go in a little bit, as long as it does NOT make it to the bottom of the primer pocket. JRB, my 18” 1:7 twist shoots the 90gr Fusion into .750” for 5 shots at 100yds, with perfectly round holes! Edit: I only fired one group on the Fusion, so not a large set to go by, will shoot 2 more groups and save the last 5 rounds for miscellaneous sighting.

[@i556xx4]

Do you have a savage msr?

[@jimhans1]

i556 no sir, all of my AR platform rifles have been built by myself personally. I’ve found it to be a lot more financially feasible to build my own with top tier parts than to buy a prebuilt unit from any maker, either due to quality of parts used in them or just plain cost they are trying to charge.

[@i556xx4]

Nice, I just don't understand how some of the barrel makers charge 300$ to 400$ and the barrels cant't shoot sub MOA, I see video of the msr shooting amazing in 223 and 224 and from 18inch barrels with a 1 in 7 twist barrels . I don't understand how savage does it? is it the hand lapping , is the bolt and barrel blueprinted or matched. what is their trick?

[@jimhans1]

i556 well, I’m not sure what savage does in their production line, but to get the best out of any barrel/bolt combo, the barrel should be headspaced to its bolt. I personally lap my upper receiver barrel mount to be square to the receiver, and I bed the barrel extension in Marine-Tex if it’s not a tight fit to the upper for some reason. I’ve also found that there are a lot of videos in general about folks having “awesome” shooting rifles that tend to cherrypick their groups versus showing how CONSISTENTLY accurate the guns actually are. Getting one group out of 5 that’s sub-MOA does not make a gun sub-MOA imo, it takes the ability to shoot numerous groups back to back that are sub-MOA before I personally rate a gun/ammo combo to be sub-MOA. Not every gun is capable of true, consistent sub-MOA groups. Either due to tolerance stacking, bore quality, etc. But most should be able to get there with proper ammo/load development.

[@i556xx4]

@@jimhans1 welp Jim, you need to teach me how to complete some of those tasks!

[@johnvan8852]

Have a 24" 6.5 twist from x caliber barrels I hope to finish soon, so I can use your videos to find my own bullet reloading results.

[@adeniranm7647]

Swage Gage, I dig it.

[@mikemckown3157]

If you use a pn. 9495 swager you can save those bad federal primer pockets most of the time.

[@spyderxtra777]

well, I'm heading to that site right now....Here's to hoping the tools are reasonably priced!

[@ewetho]

Rifle length +1 for the win! Maybe a hint for the big guns??? Guess the 18" 1:7 can follow that up huh... Just the brass not holding up well

[@maximvickers08]

I first want to thank you for the great videos. I have just now finished my Valkyrie build. Of course we are on lock down here in NM and the gun ranges run by the county are closed. Working up some loads following what you have done. I like the fact that you work with so many different powders. I am one of those that once I find a decent performer I stick with it and rarely vary form it. I do have one question. It is about the chronographs you use. I have seen the LabRadar, the magneto speed and you obviously have used some shoot thru chrony. Which do you like the best. I have an older beta chrony which worked great for me in KY. However out here in NM with so much bright sunlight it just refuses to work consistently. I am currently using a magneto speed but don't care for the way it throws off my POI. Hate wasting more ammo than I have to. So what are your thoughts on the LabRadar. Thanks again for all the great vids.

[@mtnshooter2487]

have you noticed the groups are a little better with a front rest ?

[@i556xx4]

I just shot a bartlein 6.5 twist last week and it shot great. Only thing is my range has a max distance of 200 yds in Long Island. I may just get rid of the valkyrie barrel and build a 308 or 6.5 ar 10 platform.

[@ostiariusalpha]

If you don't have anywhere that you can stretch out a cartridge's legs, than just go with .308 Winchester. Hard to beat the .308 at 500 yards and in, and it saves you grief finding ammo off the shelf.

[@ElectricalInsanity]

I've got that primer pocket tool and it's worth every penny, especially if you're shooting 223 brass.

[@stieger9220]

"let me just make sure... shit!" good stuff

[@KeepBodyAndSoulTogether]

Use a chamfer tool to take the primer crimp out. That primer pocket go no go gage is a waste of time

[@theTIVANshow]

Check out ATN CORP for a scope it's 1 shoot zero . It will help in time and rounds when switching scope to other rifles

[@heathgaddy3142]

the 90 grain federal fusion shot terrible out of my 1 in 7 twist upper with 20 inch barrel. the 75 grain tmj bullets shot ok but not super tight.

[@theriddleballcoach]

Very nice groups on the hand loads, but I'm still not feeling 224 Valkyrie 2600fps big deal I'll take 77gr 223 at 2750 all day and way less expensive. When are you going to dump that 224 V crap and show us what 6mm Grendel can do?

[@i556xx4]

I agree, how is it the 6.8spc parent case was able to push 85gr bullets at over 3000fps out of a 16 inch barrel, and the valkyrie cant push 90gr smks anywhere close to that with a 24 inch barrel?

[@i556xx4]

@@bubbasmith3638 oh ok, that makes sense.

[@lukasdinter1289]

@@bubbasmith3638 if pressure stays the same yes....

[@spartan7.628]

If we're talking 1000yd+ shooting you'd be choosing to handicap yourself with the 223/5.56. A hot mk262 load is subsonic by about 900yds. A 2600fps 90gr smk isnt subsonic until 1150yds. At 600yds? Sure. But that's not why the valk exists.

[@dustintaylor4076]

I'm getting 3150 with a 70 gr bullet using 24 gr of leverevolution powder on my 224 with 24" barrel and staying supersonic to 1300 yards. I love my 224

[@emo1net]

How about 21:49 and that fly sitting on the magnetospeed :-) nice

[@Dadguy86]

I had to go back and look lol, nice indeed

[@guitarrocker0991]

Hope you have better luck with RL17 than I have. I've tried it with the 75 & 80gr eldm with no luck at lower charge weights, but I have only minimally tested it with the 90gr smk and those were at very very high charge weights

[@benjaminnevins5211]

Great... there goes all the H4350 inventory again.

[@308guy8]

I wonder why nobody shoots the 243 super short mag in a ar platform it outperforms the valkyrie with 90grn bullets or any other weight but i still enjoyed your video johnny thanks

[@jimhans1]

308 guy because ammo/brass is hard to find, and you lose 50% of the magazine capacity from even 6.5Grendel let alone .223/5.56, and parts are proprietary for the WSSM rounds in the AR platform.

[@thompsonjerry3412]

What does a Valkyrie do that the Grendel does not, and without eating brass?

[@jimhans1]

Thompson Jerry nothing besides using cheaper .224” bullets.

[@SuperUncleRyan]

Feed properly.....for starters.

[@jimhans1]

Cajun Swamp Fox I have 5 different Grendel uppers, from 12.5” to 24”, I’ve never had a malfunction with any of them. I have 2 Valkyrie uppers, and they’ve never had a malfunction either. Use mags designed for the correct caliber and you should have zero issues.

[@boostedbadboyzx12r31]

Shoots out barrels way faster lol

[@boostedbadboyzx12r31]

@@jimhans1 how often are you shooting? You putting a thousand rounds down range a week or a few hundred? Or maybe a few hundred in a few months.

[@dannylandrum7899]

Dangit - I really want those fusions to shoot good, and in turn, to become available for handloading.

[@cratxn1]

Why don't you use a long drop tube ? Have you considered a swirl powder drop ?

[@rafaellastracom6411]

Excellent work. I am wondering how hotter weather would affect velocity and stability as I get the impression a 90 grain pill might be close to the limit for the 224. Any thoughts?

[@ostiariusalpha]

90gr is not the limit at all for the cartridge. The 1:7" barrel twist has its limits for stabilizing longer bullets, but a 20" bbl with the 1:6.5" twist should stabilize 100gr bullets easily enough.

[@justaregularguy3827]

So I was thinking about getting a 224 callyroe for reloading but ive heard really bad things about getting it to work and reloading issues whats ypur take on it johnny I just dont know what info to trust on the situation of reloading for it and is it worth it

[@DLT704]

My best groups also have not so good es and sd. Any clues as why ? My low numbers shoot ah ok but not to my liking

[@ripfletching]

Please do more 224 videos

[@HoofPrintsDR]

Is the Valkyrie round only offered in 18 in +. I was hopyit would be offered in 16 in

[@No1JetDoc]

I wonder what your velocity difference would be if both barrels were the same twist? That 1 in 6.5 twist must choke it down at least a little.

[@jimhans1]

No1JetDoc if it was a 1:6.5” twist versus a 1:10-1:12” twist that might be an issue, but between a 1:7”, there won’t be any viable difference imparted by the twist on velocity.

[@Sleepykek]

That fly sitting on the chronograph at 21:50 is probably not doing well after that shot.

[@watchnlearn4364]

Great stuff.

[@davidhensley3407]

Hey Johnny new to this but been shooting my Valkyrie for a while now, you might try 2000-MR 27.2gr 82gr Berger target CCI BR-4 primers 1.777 ogive this is starting to work for me.

[@FullSendPrecision]

We really need Peterson or Alpha to come out with some quality brass for this.

[@stephenfowler4115]

Looks like the bipod might have been the problem

[@stevemartin1111]

Good stuff I have a1.7 18

[@tuckerjl]

I see you got your powder measure working did you replace it or did rcbs warranty it?

[@juansrt42003]

How far off the lands are you seating them with the 2.300" OAL? Dont know if you mentioned this or not.

[@halfdollar86]

Have you found that the magnetospeed will change harmonics and poi compared to not using it? I just bought a magneto speed v3 and haven’t opened it. The more I think about it I believe I will return it and get the lab radar. What’s your opinion?

[@jimhans1]

Halfdollar 86 Lab Radar!! After two days of using the LR I sold my Magnetospeed and have never been happier!

[@halfdollar86]

jimhans1 year right after making this post 2 weeks ago I went and returned the lab radar and went and picked up a lab radar. Drove 2 hours to get it because I’m impatient. Love it so far.

[@diamon4u]

Is the Valkyrie dead?

[@Belbivdevoe]

Did u try a magnum primers?

[@mark120371]

Outstanding

[@ccwynn6657]

At 8:53, after talking about loose primer pockets you remove the crimp ring? ? ? ? Why? Just bump the burr raked by the old primer cup, back a smidge and then force the new primer into the pocket, with a hand primer tool. This is the way you get at least a few firings without losing the primer keeping interference fit. Hornady is making Big Federal look bad, by running the crimp ring on their cases. Federal has used billions of crimp rings in their military ammo offerings but failed to see the need with their Valkyrie ammo. Sheesh!

[@demsrchildabusers7959]

7 twist barrels, even in .223, shoot 90gr Sierra's just fine. The real problem is shooting 90 Bergers or the new 95gr Sierra.

[@davidperkins6494]

Do you have a link to the crimp removing tool?

[@orionfixr7713]

Johnny ; In a completely unrelated matter , I'd very much like to have your opinion . I recently saw in a comment section of another channels video , a guy give his recipe for .223 sub-sonic load. His is 17.5 grains of H335 with a 72 grain bullet . Does this sound safe to you ? When I started loading I was told that undercharging can be as dangerous as overloading . The closest loading to this is 21 grains of H335 . I appreciate your attention to detail and would like to have your thoughts on this matter. Thanks in advance.

[@SuperUncleRyan]

Loading 223 sub-sonic is like putting bicycle tires on a Corvette. Makes no sense.

[@orionfixr7713]

Fox; For use with a suppressor . Pellet gun quiet . Of course here in Illinois I'll never know cause big brother knows it's way too dangerous for the common man .

[@jarredlkling]

It can be dangerous to undercharge this is true. If there is not enough charge to get the bullet out of the barrel then you will have a bullet stuck in the barrel and the next shot will blow the barrel up. I would not recommend that load recipe out of an 18+ inch barrel but for and SBR/Pistol with at 8-inch to 14-inch barrel it would probably be ok. It is not recommended to take load data from a youtube video, JRB will tell you that. You can and should test it yourself if truly interested in a subsonic .223 load. Start at the lowest published charge weight and slowly move down. Only shoot one round at a time and check the barrel for a bullet that might not have had the energy to make it out of the barrel after each shot and before shooting the next round and stop once you are subsonic. should be easy enough and not a lot of materials need to be invested to find a charge weight that will work. Good luck and Dont blow your face off.

[@orionfixr7713]

Ok . I should have given the reason I was given for not undercharging a load . Supposedly , if the charge is small enough to only take up 1/2 case capacity or there about , the primer can cause the entire load to flash all at once instead of burning the powder, there fore causing an explosion instead of a burn. In that case pressure is the danger, not a squib load.

[@jarredlkling]

Interesting, I have never head that before. H335 is a pretty slow burning powder as it is and even if it did explode rather then burn I doubt it would be over the pressure an AR-15 chamber could take. I don't know the answer though. I shoot H335 with 55 grain at 21.0 grains for my plinking loads and its only about half the case capacity and it's not ben a problem. It is only a 3.5-grain difference between the 17.5 grains for the subsonic load and my 21.0 grain load and I would assume the extra 17 grains that the 72-grain bullet has over the 55-grain would take up that volume in the case and make it pretty equal or even less volume in the case compared to the loads I shoot as far as leftover case volume goes.

[@RockIslandguy]

Why is it hard on brass? Too hot? Wrong shoulder taper?

[@ostiariusalpha]

It's just bad brass, man. For cases with a good, tight primer pocket, you can get plenty of reloads. But you saw how many of those new Starline brass he had to reject before he even got started, it's the same with the Federal brass: started with bad primer pockets right from the factory.

[@sobersteve6947]

So a 224 Valkyrie upper works on a standard 223 lower an does it use regular 223 mags?

[@paulharveu526]

It uses 6.8 SPC mags. You Might be able to get 2 or 3 rounds in a 10 round .223 mag like Grendel, but not sure. PMAGs are a no go from what I understand, the thicker plastic doesn't give room for the emm, 'Girth' of the .224/6.8

[@ostiariusalpha]

@@paulharveu526 Girth is irrelevant, the cartridges will simply stack in a semi-stagger pattern instead of a full double stack. What matters is the case body taper, and the difference in this angle is what causes 6.8 SPC and 6.5 Grendel cartridges to bind up after inserting just a few round in the standard USGI mag.

[@number40Fan]

You need an in-depth look at why the brass life is so crappy.

[@chrislockhart2731]

what app do you use to measure your groups?

[@muellerdeal8996]

sharpie the junk end of that tool so it doesnt get mixed up!

[@bigracer3867]

Would you ever go back to 22 Nosler with the updated brass? It's disappointing not to see more of it on videos overall. Great vid btw.

[@jimhans1]

Big Racer even with the updated brass it’s STILL eating them to pieces in a single shooting. The whole problem has been the rebated rim design that Nosler put on the brass. It’s forcing all of the rearward pressure to a much smaller area than if it had been left the standard diameter that the 6.8 is, that’s why the 224VALK isn’t doing the same thing to the fired brass that the 22N is doing!

[@alexbarron7227]

So close.

[@SuperUncleRyan]

Verdict... A 7 inch twist barrel is just fine...the Fusion ammo SUCKS. Didn't they recall most of this ammo?

[@kevinfarmer5653]

Slide your front reset back about 4". Having it out that far at the end of the forend is causing u some accuracy problems

[@souleater1387]

unfortunately your using a suppressor so you can't get a true reading, you see most people don't use suppressors!

[@Johnny-jr2lq]

So in my research in the 224 valkyrie it been nothing but bad I suppose it’s still early in its time being relevant but again things aren’t looking too good for this round

[@dotman1334]

Woo hoo #1

[@paulparadis66]

But, but, but @22plinkster and @militaryarms both claim 224 valkyrie is the best round ever! I guess the cost of lying is money and free hunting trips.

[@znutar]

love your videos and appreciate your work but I cannot for the life of me stop thinking of this when you are at the bench: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mGSokIp3h9ijl7c

[@tracyross8428]

Why I will never join nor subscribe.

[@Hoosieroutdoor1969]

What's the purpose of the Valkyrie? 22-250 with 80 grain bullet, you can get 3000fps, with a little load development I'm confident you could get 2900fps with a 90 grain bullet

[@ostiariusalpha]

Oh, really? Johnny can just pop a new upper on his AR-15 chambered in .22-250? Wait, that's right, he can't. And what can your custom .22-250 bolt action do that a custom .223 WSSM can't do even better? Nothing.

[@SamHurtLocker]

I don't understand this round, my 25-45 puts out more power 87g at 2950 and 110g at 2650

[@ItsDburch]

But what's your BC with those bullets? This is a gamer cartridge, the 25-45 is a hunting round. Nothing wrong with either, they just have different purposes

[@SamHurtLocker]

@@ItsDburch I just saw this but the 110 are .34 I don't know about the 87 off hand but they're lower than that

[@danielbyrnes2470]

I think you need to accidentally send the 1/7 back and keep the 1/6.5 😉

[@jimhans1]

Daniel Byrnes nah, the 1:7” twist barrel will provide all the accuracy for the cartridge for the largest group of bullet weights, excluding the 95gr SMK. My 1:7” twist 18” barrel will shoot everything from 40gr Ballistic tips to 90gr SMK and VLD bullets all to sub-MOA if I do my part on the trigger. The 1:6.5” twist barrel I had would cause bullets as heavy as 55gr to come apart mid-flight with the hotter loads.