228: Era Terra Patagotitan (by Ademar Pereira Do Nascimento) Review

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DinosDragons

DinosDragons

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@Sino-pteryx
@Sino-pteryx Жыл бұрын
In recent years, the number of manufacturers of dinosaur figures with high technical capabilities has increased. For those of us looking for new dinosaur figures, they are a must have.
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree! You notice for example on the soles of the feet, there is a high level of detail there. It's something that became more prevalent in recent years, and now it would be hard for any sculptor to neglect that without seeming suddenly inferior. The ability to do 3D printing has created a high level of detail that I wouldn't have imagined possible 20 years ago!
@elisamenezes813
@elisamenezes813 Жыл бұрын
Meu querido amigo de escola....sempre muito talentoso.....fico admirada de ver o trabalho dele exposto pro mundo
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
He must have been an interesting classmate! Yes, we are very happy to have discovered him and to help show off his work. There are many independent artists who deserve much recognition!
@ronniepatterson2827
@ronniepatterson2827 Жыл бұрын
Holy cow! This may be my favorite Sauropod figure to date! Absolutely stunning!
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
Glad you approve of this! 😁 It is one of my top 3 for sure!
@MacDinoland
@MacDinoland Жыл бұрын
Wow! Congratulations on a massive dream-come-true Titanosaur! It is stunning! 🦕👀👍
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! I can't believe this too. I think I can rest easy if I never had the 1:35 Argentinosaurus after this! 😁
@MrRajithasandaruwan
@MrRajithasandaruwan Жыл бұрын
Without any arguments, this is the most perfect Patagotitan figure I've ever seen. And this massive gentle giant looks so pretty with its unusual color scheme. I think I've never seen a sauropod with this type of color variation (Red looks good on this one). I can clearly see that you are so excited to have this amazing figure because your voice says it all 😍🤩. And as I always say I love these long videos. First about the figure and then the Science part. I learned so many new things as always. And I'm so happy for you because at last your wish was granted ❤ Keep posting these amazing and educational videos, my dear sir. For me, this is not just a Toy figure review, but a lecture ❤ Wish you all the best, my dear sir.
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
Thanks Rajitha for your kind words as always, but as always I have to say that my knowledge is only that of an amateur who is has pretty selective knowledge based on interests. Sauropods happen to be a huge one! 😁 I'm delighted to have viewers like you who also enjoy the science part of the videos, which is obviously a big element in my videos. Actually, I've thought about doing paleontology in the past, but I doubt I could survive the non-anatomy portions of the course! 🤣🤣
@BananaCake26
@BananaCake26 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate you listing your sources and references, I've added a few papers to my folder ;)
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
Yikes, reminds me... I haven't done so for this video! Will try to do that this weekend! The beautiful thing is that many of these papers are easily available so amateurs like us can really learn a lot, and more updated than new editions of books can get published.
@almusquotch9872
@almusquotch9872 Жыл бұрын
Haven't always been the biggest sauropod fan, but these videos are really starting to win me over. That thing would make such an impressive display piece.
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
I'm glad to hear it! One of my motivations for doing these videos is to stimulate interest in an animal they may not have much interest in, another is to help them decide if this is something they might want. Hopefully this gives you some of that! 😉
@Jolie49
@Jolie49 Жыл бұрын
Incredible sculpt! Years ago I built up Ademar's HUGE 1/30 Argentinosaurus model ... I got this Patagotitan model recently and will be building it up shortly ... Ademar's gotten even better at skin detail in his recent models, and this Patagotitan is absolutely magnificent! THE BEST sauropod model EVER. PERIOD. 5 STARS!!!😍😍😍😍😍
@spencerhaynes3534
@spencerhaynes3534 Жыл бұрын
How did you find it?
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
Indeed! I couldn't believe it when I saw it was in 1:35, a dream I never thought possible not without costing an arm and a leg to ship. The skin detail is truly ahead of some of his older models (which I can judge only from the photos). I wish I knew how to paint and build.... it must be an incredible feeling to not have just a beautiful sculpt you want, and then paint it in exactly the colours you want!
@mozambique9113
@mozambique9113 9 ай бұрын
He should make the eye smaller because the current is bulging big
@acetrek935
@acetrek935 Ай бұрын
How did you find this model
@thomasmonroe7947
@thomasmonroe7947 Жыл бұрын
This is what I’ve always said-doing sauropods in 1/35 is absolutely doable as affordable figures by utilizing a three part assembly to cut down on cost and packaging…..PNSO…..🙂 This looks awesome. Now, I just to know how much and where from.
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
Sorry I realise now I should be more clear in my description box! It definitely is affordable and I was surprised how much less the shipping was given the size of this. You can contact Ademar by finding him on Facebook and then messaging him on Facebook messenger. *Ademar Pereira Do Nascimento* Or via his Intagram and messaging him there. *ademar.p.nascimento* Tell him good day for me!
@joaoricardomasuero8189
@joaoricardomasuero8189 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see one of your always fantastic reviews about one of the best Ademar's works. I have this model with a different color scheme and it is gorgeous, huge and impressive!
@spencerhaynes3534
@spencerhaynes3534 Жыл бұрын
How did you find it?
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
Thanks to my friend introducing this! As soon as soon as I saw a picture of it, I fell in love immediately. My favourite dinosaur from my favourite dinosaur group, the 1:35 size, the form, and my friend tells me the shipping was surprisingly reasonable thanks to the fibreglass. There is detail on this that I didn't even notice until after I watched my own video. I like introducing people to worthy artists who are less well-known, so that's a big bonus of course!
@acetrek935
@acetrek935 Ай бұрын
Where did you buy it
@vanessanascimento4092
@vanessanascimento4092 Жыл бұрын
Uhuuuuuuuuuuuu, parabéns Ademar. Merecedor! Desde sempre super talentoso. Parabéns!!!
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
¡Sin duda! Estoy encantada con su increíble trabajo. ¡Con suerte, hará más saurópodos grandes!
@definitelynotdilophosaurus1722
@definitelynotdilophosaurus1722 Жыл бұрын
After seeing this video when it came out, I was absolutely floored by the beauty of this model, and after contacting the creator I have successfully ordered my own, which should be coming soon! So, I wanted to say thank you for bringing this wonderful animal to my attention!
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
You are _most_ welcome! That's one of my motivations for doing videos, to bring worthy creators to the attention of more people. This was certainly a treasure I never expected to see in a million years, certainly not for the price! I hope you will be very happy with your Patagotitan! 😁
@TheSenSx
@TheSenSx Жыл бұрын
Hello, how did you contact the creator ? I tried on its facebook page but did not get any anwser, I would like to order this model if that is possible...
@cosminbryant1243
@cosminbryant1243 10 ай бұрын
Try Messenger like I did when I ordered my copy’s in two different colours
@definitelynotdilophosaurus1722
@definitelynotdilophosaurus1722 9 ай бұрын
@@DinosDragonsthought I’d return with an update, it just arrived last week, and I could not be more pleased! I ended up going with a look inspired by prehistoric kingdom’s brachiosaurus, and my god did he deliver. The sheer presence it has is incredible, I cannot thank you enough for bringing light to this absolute hidden gem!
@nilewelerminiaturas5771
@nilewelerminiaturas5771 Жыл бұрын
Ótima miniatura de resina, Ademar Pereira Do Nascimento faz suas miniatura com muita pesquisa e deixa o mais próximo como seria na realidade.
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
Exactly! It's incredible how much thought Ademar actually put into this, every aspect considered, even the reason behind why he did the metacarpals and phalangeal area that he did. Also like his using realistic ideas of size instead of the hyperbole that pervades the popular media.
@nilewelerminiaturas5771
@nilewelerminiaturas5771 Жыл бұрын
@@DinosDragons Ademar tá fazendo o argentinossauro e o meu já tá reservado.
@bbag1550
@bbag1550 Жыл бұрын
@@DinosDragons Well in this animal in particular's case it does not need help of hyperbole numbers, I'm going to have a look when the skeleton comes up in London this summer :D
@palomadasko1204
@palomadasko1204 Жыл бұрын
Wow, how cool to see a piece made in my country here on your channel! I've already run to see the artist's models and soon to buy one... By the way, you said the name correctly 😊
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
Haha thank you! I didn't know so I just tried to use the Spanish pronunciation. Sadly I don't know anything about your language, though I'm hopeful that if my Spanish improves, it will be easier to learn Portuguese in future. I try to show models from different artists that I think deserves to be better-known, because it's a hard field to work in, and many are doing it more for passion than profit. It's amazing how much you would save if you were to get this! Ademar does good work and I am looking forward to see what he does next! 😁 If you do get this yourself, tell him hello from me!
@elizabethpendleton2401
@elizabethpendleton2401 11 ай бұрын
I thought you would like to hear, @DinosDragons, that I went ahead on the basis of your review and ordered a Patagotitan from Ademar. It arrived yesterday. The model is absolutely splendid! I'm thrilled with the quality of his work. The joins of neck and tail are virtually invisible. He adapted my suggestions on paint scheme beautifully. The colour scheme is wonderful - really striking but at the same time not loud or garish. The packaging was also superb. I'm so glad that I watched your excellent review of Ademar's work and acted on it!
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons 11 ай бұрын
I'm so glad to hear that Elizabeth! Especially as several comments of yours indicate you're someone of quite particular tastes 😁 To have a 1:35 Patagotitan at that price is certainly something I would never have dreamt of, and the fact that Ademar really cares enough to customize the paint scheme is a HUGE added bonus! I'm glad to learn that many of my viewers have purchased this one from Ademar. In fact I suspect that's why he's been too busy to get to anything else lol. It's a nice 'problem' to have though!
@elizabethpendleton2401
@elizabethpendleton2401 11 ай бұрын
Indeed, his queue of customers was quite long, hence the wait. Certainly helped by your review@@DinosDragons ! Several people on the Dinosaur Toy Forum have also ordered one. I too thought the price was amazing value. I wish I could show you a photo of my version but don't know how!
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons 11 ай бұрын
You could email me! The address is in my account info. It may take me a while but eventually I reply to most of my email! 😁
@elizabethpendleton2401
@elizabethpendleton2401 11 ай бұрын
Thanks - I found it. Sent you an email, hope it gets to you@@DinosDragons !
@acetrek935
@acetrek935 Ай бұрын
Where did you get it from
@vicgarb2288
@vicgarb2288 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, i would not have found this. A great scientific review as always! I am on the list with Ademar, what a nice person! This will be my chance for a greenish color scheme without flashy aspects.
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your words! Yes indeed, the beauty of this is that you can actually have Ademar paint it whichever colour you like! Or if you know how, paint it yourself. Usually it's hard to get a sculpt plus paint you like. In this case you can get both! 😊
@kuitaranheatmorus9932
@kuitaranheatmorus9932 Жыл бұрын
This review was absolutely beautiful, and this figure is truly stunning Hope you're had a good day
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I already had a good day, then this came and made it better! 🤣
@TheSenSx
@TheSenSx 9 ай бұрын
I also got this model from Ademar. I think it's the best 1/35 big sauropod available out there, for a great price value. I chose the same color as you DinoDragon as I found it was the best balance between a naturral and vibrant tone, so thanks for you video. Ademar even accepted to put the nostrils further down the snout on mine, as on modern reconstructions. I put a link on my previous comment to more pictures of it, but looks like it was deleted for some reasons.
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons 9 ай бұрын
Ademar is a really good sculptor and I am delighted that many people have found out and ordered from him through my video review. He brought a dream into reality for many of us titanosaur lovers, and I can't wait to see what he comes up with next! It's interesting he actually changed the nostril position for you.. I never thought of asking him to do that!
@TheSenSx
@TheSenSx 9 ай бұрын
@@DinosDragons Yes I I kept watching all my other sauropods figures that had the modern nostril position, and I wondered why that Patagotitan would not, so I asked Ademar in time to change it and it did not seem to be an issue at all.
@JL-ux9dk
@JL-ux9dk Жыл бұрын
Excellent review of this masive titán ,..... an awesome model!!!(if you have enought space, of course😀)
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
Lol. Something like this, I _make_ the space! 😭
@QuiversaurusRex
@QuiversaurusRex Жыл бұрын
I've never been a huge fan of sauropods, but this Patagotitan has me in awe. A 1:35 titanosaur! The sheer size of it is a sight to behold. Imagine making T.rex and Giganotosaurus look like turkeys... As always, I've learnt much from your science sections, especially the differences between macronarians and diplodocoids. If I ever have the space and budget for a 1:35 scale titanosaur, I'm definitely going for this one!
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
Thank you! One of the hopes of my channel is to show viewers different ideas they may not have contemplated before. In this case, if you were to ever actually get a 1:35 titanosaur, I would love to hear about it! Indeed, space is the huge constraint. Collecting is a hobby where, even if you had plenty of money (and most of us don't!), we hit that limit of space 🤣 This titanosaur was a real coup I never expected! 😀😁
@powerfulidiot2357
@powerfulidiot2357 Жыл бұрын
Wow! I am super gerous that you have such an amazing 1:35 titanosaur!!!
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
Haha message Ademar directly and see if you can have one too! 🤣
@joellege8992
@joellege8992 6 ай бұрын
I found out he also makes an Argentinasaurus which I also ordered. Now the wait for them to come on.
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons 5 ай бұрын
Ademar really has contributed a LOT to people who love titanosaurs, and also love the 1:35 scale! 😁
@bbag1550
@bbag1550 Жыл бұрын
Have to say its the first model I've seen coming close to the W Dragon Giraffatitan, the imho top sauropod figure of all times, this is a close second or even draw, wow!
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
I definitely agree about the high quality and aesthetics of the W-Dragon. In fact my favourite brachiosaurid thus far _is_ in fact the W Dragon Giraffatitan (original paintjob). There is something about that form + colour that puts it ahead of anything else mass-produced, and it's a must-have for any sauropod lover.
@bbag1550
@bbag1550 Жыл бұрын
@DinosDragons how would you say the finish and paintjob compares in hand? The Patagotitan has a huge plus in having scales not just skin, but even a custom figure would be hard pressed to top the Giraffatitan paintjob. The Patagotitan is just airbrushed or is there also layers of colors?
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
@@bbag1550 There are definitely layers of colours on the Patagotitan. However I would say that if you compare to the Giraffatitan, there is a kind of fineness that isn't quite capture on the Patagotitan. If you look at some areas like the head, more could probably be done, but in fairness, when my friend ordered this, he gave Ademar an illustrated picture, and from what I've seen, it does look close to the picture, which is flat. So too some of the other references he provided Ademar. So if you really like the kind of very find subtletly and layering, you many actually prefer the W Dragon Giraffatitan. For me, on balance, the _form_, _detail_ and _accuracy to the science_ more than outweighs that, but I would say right now my two favourite macronarians have to be either of these.
@cosminbryant1243
@cosminbryant1243 10 ай бұрын
I just received mine two copies of it and man are they awesome
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons 9 ай бұрын
TWO? Wow... you must have really _loved_ this one!! 😲
@cosminbryant1243
@cosminbryant1243 9 ай бұрын
@@DinosDragons ya I really like the pain patterns on those that’s why I got them
@elizabethpendleton2401
@elizabethpendleton2401 Жыл бұрын
What a stunning model! My only concern is where would I show it. Many thanks for your thoughtful review.
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words. For me, it goes on the sauropod shelf... the very top of the cabinet where few things can impede it 🤣
@joelww2501
@joelww2501 Жыл бұрын
Good Lord, it’s beautiful!
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
Yes it is! *Beautiful* is a word I've overused, and surprisingly I believe I managed to avoid using it in this video lol! But beautiful it most certainly is!
@jqp97e14
@jqp97e14 Жыл бұрын
Thank a lot to introducing this beauty to us , I am very appreciate the great size and the 1:35 scale . Really love the Giant Sauropod but there are too few in the market . I am wonder how to get this Big Boy to Asia.
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
Hi, message Ademar directly on Facebook and then messaging him on Facebook messenger. *Ademar Pereira Do Nascimento* Or via his Intagram and messaging him there. *ademar.p.nascimento* He ships to many coutries, so you should be able to work something out. Tell him DinosDragons said hi lol PS: For sure about the 1:35! I had hopes for PNSO... but up to now 还是没动静! 🤣
@Varekai0723
@Varekai0723 Жыл бұрын
How can people buy one of these? I don't see an e-commerce store at those links.
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
Sorry mate I should have mentioned that you actually have to message Ademar directly at his socials here. Find him on Facebook and then message him on Facebook messenger. *Ademar Pereira Do Nascimento* Or via his Intagram and messaging him there. *ademar.p.nascimento* Tell him DinosDragons said good day! 😁
@spencerhaynes3534
@spencerhaynes3534 Жыл бұрын
Where can I go to get one of these?
@horse14t
@horse14t Жыл бұрын
I'm curious too. I can't find a shop when searching for Era Terra. I want to browse this guy's stuff!
@spencerhaynes3534
@spencerhaynes3534 Жыл бұрын
@@horse14t and giant sauropods are always worth attention XD
@TITANSofTheEARTH
@TITANSofTheEARTH Жыл бұрын
Hi did you found out how much it costs and ...how to buy. I found nothing. thx
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
Sorry I should have been more clear that you would have to message him. You can contact him by finding him on Facebook and then messaging him on Facebook messenger. *Ademar Pereira Do Nascimento* Or via his Intagram and messaging him there. *ademar.p.nascimento*
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
@horse14t Sorry I should have been more clear that you would have to message him. You can contact him by finding him on Facebook and then messaging him on Facebook messenger. *Ademar Pereira Do Nascimento* Or via his Intagram and messaging him there. *ademar.p.nascimento*
@kalevipoeg6916
@kalevipoeg6916 7 ай бұрын
Speaking on the mass of sauropods like Argentinosaurus: there really is not any truly robust way of dialing in on a specific mass in life, because there are so many unknown variables with the soft tissues, tissue density, intraspecific variation in size (saying you know how big they could get from the remains we do have is akin to finding a partial skeleton of one to a few humans and thinking they represent anything even close to the kind of mass or height you can FIND in living humans. The average western man is 175 cm tall, or 5'9" and weighs 77 kg if not obese, or 170 lbs. I, on the other hand, am 188 cm tall and weigh between 93 and 100 kg on average, which represents up to a 30% difference in mass (not fat, I just have a more robust musculoskeletal structure than many) and a 7.4% difference in height. Scale that up to an 80 ton sauropod you are looking at a 104 ton sauropod instead, which, by the way, is within the realm of some previous estimates. I'm far from the biggest WE get, too. Look at Yao Ming. He's FAR outside of the ordinary, and you'd almost CERTAINLY never find his skeleton in the fossil record because such giants are rare in any species - but gigantism occurs in ALL vertebrates, albeit rarely, and there is no reason to think there wasn't significant size variation among sauropds OR that what skeletal material we have represents the biggest adults could even GET. At 188 cm I am taller than 94% of all men, but that still leaves 6% of men my height or a bit taller (over 99% are under 6'4" / 192 cm) - which is statistically UNLIKELY to find in the fossil record compared with the more LIKELY find of a 175 to 183cm male, but yet, here I am. My cousin is 2 metres tall - so he's taller than 99.9% of men on earth - and my second cousin is about the size of Shaq - taller than 99.999% of men, ever - but they EXIST. So too did 2.75 metre / nearly 9 foot tall Robert Pershing Wadlow, the tallest man to ever live. An African Bush elephant was found which weighed 11 tons, more than TWICE the typical male elephant's weight. We see it in dogs, cats, and all sorts of creatures. So, so long as we're not violating the square cubed law, and it wouldn't be, yet....it's actually very LIKELY to have happened here and there. Moreover, my own 30% mass difference over the 77kg average (non-obese) male isn't even that rare compared to gigantism - I'm just a fairly big guy, not a giant, and the sauropod equivalent SURELY existed. I just get so tired of this recent trend of going ultra-conservative with mass estimates for sauropods while simultaneously UPPING the mass of animals like T. rex pretty significantly: the largest rexes were once thought to weigh 5 to 7 tons, but now we're looking at individuals riding close to the 10 ton mark (Scotty) and speculation of potential for some individuals to have been 70% larger still (granted, that one not being founded on much of substance). We have for years routinely failed to account for things like cartilage between the bones, fat reserves, excess skin and so on. By the way, while ON the subject of mass, it's funny how sauropods get consistently scaled DOWN in mass, but the blue whale's mythical weights are never questioned. Let me ask you this: where DID those claims of a 210 ton blue whale COME from? How were those measurements taken? With what instrumentation? When? Where? By who? I've NEVER seen ANY unambiguous and CLEAR documentation. They're consistently said to be "90 to 110 feet long" but the fact of the matter is, in modern times with modern instruments, NOT ONE blue whale has EVER been measured reliably to be over 89 feet. Not one. The MASS of blue whales is often claimed t be 180 to 210 tons, yet when a fin whale - which isn't all that far off from a blue - washed ashore recently, it was said to be only 24 tons (granted, not a well-fed or fully grown individual). Who is putting these blue whales on scales? NOBODY. They're going by volumetric estimates based largely on sightings from ships - estimating a length, and from that, a mass. Think about HOW you'd go about weighing an animal that big. Japanese whaling ships might kill whales and chop them up, but they're hardly using calibrated scientific instruments to weigh the mass of the flesh, and I might add, it's common to misrepresent weights in that industry for various reasons. Where's the recent, peer reviewed study where they went out and caught blue whales, slapped them on a scale and weighed and measured them? Didn't happen. Find one. A RELIABLE, repeatable measurement. Not a claim. Fact is, blue whales have ALSO been reported to be anywhere from 70 to 130 tons on the lower end of things, which, you MAY have noticed, overlaps with some sauropod estimates. Look at a blue whale. REALLY look. They're kind of spindly, elongate, narrow-bodied things. The lower masses for them in that respect seem considerably more believable than an emaciated 60 ton Argentinosaurus. Yet without hesitation they are CONSTANTLY called "the biggest animal to ever live" - and yes, I AM saying that I would bet that there is overlap between the range of weights blue whales can fall under and the range of weights the largest members of the largest sauropod TAXA - especially individuals with gigantism - could achieve. Until I see consistent, reliable evidence using modern instrumentation of these mythical 150+ ton blue whales, I question it on the basis that the claims are never backed by rigorous study. At any rate, even the blue whale inarguably massively varies in mass between individuals of the same SPECIES - so once again, making assertations that so and so sauropod genus could only have been 75 tons "because air sacks" - and using emaciated builds that lack the musculature they'd need to realistically move around on land - is fraught with uncertainty. To be fair, it IS always safer to err toward the CONSERVATIVE side of estimates - but the thing about that is, the more we find of any given dinosaur taxon, the more we are forced to question long-held assumptions as to their maximum size - and frequently those assumptions are forced to go UP with time, not down.
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons 7 ай бұрын
Wow, thank you for your very educated and intelligent thoughts! I’m personally a little annoyed by the constant number of people upping theropod masses. I can’t tell you how many times someone leaves a comment to correct me in my reviews, claiming that such-and-such a favourite theropod was actually +x m/ ft more. Of course, one can conjure up any number of fantasy lengths based on ranges seen in extant living vertebrates. I have to take an average from credible sources. But I am also mindful that as much as sauropods are my favourite group, and titanosaurs my favourite subgroup, at such extremes of gigantism, there are real limitations that start to encroach themselves on any attempt at excesses that ignore physical constraints such as the strength of bone material, cross sectional area, and section modulus calculations and so on, when guesstimating a certain amount of possible mass. Of course complexities abound. For example, while we did not do loading tests in my university, I know of others where bone is subject to compression loads in a universal testing machine, and there _is_ a range of compression-fracture. Even then, that was obviously dry bone. Results don’t account for the supportive value of wet, soft tissue. Way before pneumatization was known, we had estimates of even Brachiosaurus at 75 tonnes. I think this high level of pneumatization in bone has contributed greatly toward the dialling down of weight estimates. There is no argument that they would have very effectively lightened the weight of what would otherwise be extremely energy-consuming weights to be lifted all day long, even considering the effectiveness of passive supports such as ligaments. Still as you say, there is a wide range of normalcy when it comes to lengths, and hence corresponding volumes and weight. That is why I mentioned that the PNSO Alamosaurus could justifiably be called 1:35 depending on what the collector wishes the live animal to be, and there are certainly a range of possibilities. While extremes certainly exist, the question is, how likely in the very few sparse remains we have can we be certain we had the biggest or the smallest, as you say. So of course, it is up to anyone whether known fragments represent an average, a median, or extreme. Blue whales are a different kettle of fish. The ‘buoyancy bonus’ does allow more crazy weights to go unchallenged, and is less likely to be questioned. Some of the lengths claimed for them, with fantasy weights calculated based on these mythical lengths, boggles the mind, even if you consider buoyancey of water. I’ve long given up on finding a definitive source, and yet because we have live animals we can see, it may actually work in favour of some fantasy. This is a really fascinating topic. Estimating body mass is a question that has researchers trying to suggest a methodology from time to time. For example, Campion and Evans 2020 paper. Specific to our discussion, I have been trying to get a hold of D’Emic’s 2023 paper (The evolution of maximum terrestrial body mass in sauropod dinosaurs), which might furnish more ideas. I seem to recall you telling me you are a palaeontologist? If so you may have access to this paper much more easily than I! By the way, mate, you have written quite a few really good and educational posts. Could I request your break up your message into paragraphs? It makes it easier to read, and ensures I don’t miss out any of your points. It would greatly benefit other readers, I am sure! Best regards, DD.
@starbirds2464
@starbirds2464 Жыл бұрын
Any way i can grab one for myself? Are they limited?
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
Message Ademar and ask him. I'm sure he'll work something out with you 😊 You can contact him by finding him on Facebook and then messaging him on Facebook messenger. *Ademar Pereira Do Nascimento* Or via his Intagram and messaging him there. *ademar.p.nascimento*
@aaronreyes7967
@aaronreyes7967 Жыл бұрын
I also had that dream but started to sculpt it myself. It's been a year and i haven't finish it, although it already makes my other dinos look tiny
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
Wow in 1:35? At least you know how to! I would never have even the framework or armature to work with since I know nothing 😂 Keep at it!
@TITANSofTheEARTH
@TITANSofTheEARTH Жыл бұрын
Great model !!! Really cool. It will really fit with the new *De CLAY Studio Tyrannosaurus Rex and Juvenile Scene Statue Kit* (It´s fleshy SUE) 1:35 I have an Argentinosaurus 1/35 now but not fully painted now....too cold for airbrush here.
@TITANSofTheEARTH
@TITANSofTheEARTH Жыл бұрын
I found his site but no way to see a posibilty to order or the price tag for painted/ unpainted Version.
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
Sorry I should have been more clear that you would have to message him. You can contact him by finding him on Facebook and then messaging him on Facebook messenger. *Ademar Pereira Do Nascimento* Or via his Intagram and messaging him there. *ademar.p.nascimento* I would *love* to see you do a video on this one. It fits wonderfully with the theme of your KZbin channel! 😀😀
@TITANSofTheEARTH
@TITANSofTheEARTH Жыл бұрын
@@DinosDragons I ordered one too with indiviual painting. It´s too good :D Thx for the review
@TITANSofTheEARTH
@TITANSofTheEARTH Жыл бұрын
​@@DinosDragons Mine arrived broken. Not so sturdy. Had to glue him and resculpt a Part.
@demariusmcghee1492
@demariusmcghee1492 7 ай бұрын
what website or link did you get this from??
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons 6 ай бұрын
Please read the description below.
@aboutdinosaurs6337
@aboutdinosaurs6337 Жыл бұрын
I hope i had this figure
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
Find Ademar in the description box below, and maybe you might be able to!
@mozambique9113
@mozambique9113 10 ай бұрын
Love the figure! One thing that bothers is the bulging eye without eyelid.
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons 9 ай бұрын
I can see how that would look! Fortunately it's not something that is in your face. Do give Ademar your feedback as I know he'll definitely improve his future offerings.
@mozambique9113
@mozambique9113 9 ай бұрын
@@DinosDragons is this personal insult or something?
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons 9 ай бұрын
@@mozambique9113 What are you talking about??
@mozambique9113
@mozambique9113 9 ай бұрын
@@DinosDragons i was talking about the figure and why does it have to do with my face??
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons 9 ай бұрын
@@mozambique9113 It's an English expression buddy! dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/in-your-face
@ralphconcepcion1387
@ralphconcepcion1387 5 ай бұрын
How can I purchase this beautiful piece
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons 5 ай бұрын
Ademar's contact should be in the description box. Tell him hi for me!
@jimgalla540
@jimgalla540 Жыл бұрын
Hulk. Great review. Shouldn't the teeth have different lengths? The metacarples are different lengths,so that is good. The eyes could be painted a little better. Less fish eye look, and more reptilian. Magnetic attachable nameplates would be better.
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your input, Jim. Sauropod teeth can be of different lengths, but the part that can be seen is what is beyond the lip line. So the emergent part could look pretty even, even though without the lips you would see different lengths. It doest make sense however, even if it's through wear, that the teeth are grown/ ground to about the same level for efficient cutting. The teeth however, perhaps could have a more 'cuspy' appearance and less flat. Attachable magnetic plates can be a little fiddly. I have had a few that either got lost, or even if I chose not to use them, would have the attaching surface so bare that it looked it had a bald spot. Agree with you about the eyes, though I've seen this kind of look in various reconstructions. That said we didn't specify the kind of look we wanted, and I'm sure if we'd thought of it we could have!
@celestestephan7727
@celestestephan7727 10 ай бұрын
Ok. Where can I buy one
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons 10 ай бұрын
Hi Celeste, it's in my description box.
@spinosaurusreviews1127
@spinosaurusreviews1127 Жыл бұрын
This is a stunning model hopefully they make a brachiosaurus
@OmarIversen
@OmarIversen Жыл бұрын
Get the W Dragon Giraffatitan figure, best brachiosaurus on the market by far
@spinosaurusreviews1127
@spinosaurusreviews1127 Жыл бұрын
@@OmarIversen had it and sold wasn’t a huge fan
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
I definitely hope that Era Terra makes other 1:35 sauropods. Brachiosaurus, my original favourite sauropod for sure, but I also hope they look at the largest mammals as well. I would love a Paraceratherium or Palaeoloxodon.
@bbag1550
@bbag1550 Жыл бұрын
@@DinosDragons Eofauna has a fantastic 1:35 Palaeoloxodon on the market already
@spinosaurusreviews1127
@spinosaurusreviews1127 Жыл бұрын
@@DinosDragons brachiosaurus is my all time favourite dinosaur and sauropod and yeah that would be cool as comparison with eofauna
@laseriedeladilophosaure9246
@laseriedeladilophosaure9246 Жыл бұрын
Un pour moi il est discutable de savoir si l’argentinosaure ou patagotitan est le plus grand dinosaures car il pourrait . De plus il n’est pas adulte donc il aurait pu attendre d’après moi des taille de 33,5 - 37 m maximum cela est toujours possible. Donc sont échelle est de 1: 35 ou 1: 38 pour la plus grande estimation.
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
I guess we will never ever know unless we have more than one femur or even part of a femur in some cases. So a scale representation will not be 100% without contestatin. It is truly frustrating to me that these huge animals have such poor remains. I don't think we can make a definitive remark over which was bigger. The projections they try to do for both Argentinosaurus and Patagotitan are based on _one or two_ bones, and even then, those are still estimates based on estimates. Even then, dorsal centrum diameter differs by only _1cm_ . I find it ridiculous to make any such claims, frankly.
@laseriedeladilophosaure9246
@laseriedeladilophosaure9246 Жыл бұрын
​@@DinosDragons oui👍
@oni-kaiju9524
@oni-kaiju9524 Жыл бұрын
Patagotitan like most Argentinian titanosaurs of course coexisted with a carcharodontosaurid Tyrannotitan chubutensis
@SpizaetusOrnatus2
@SpizaetusOrnatus2 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I also have Tyrannotitan
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
There definitely seems to be a prepoderance to gigantism in Argentina!
@user-xq9ig5pl4s
@user-xq9ig5pl4s Жыл бұрын
これは何と言う会社が出している商品ですか?
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
This is from Era Terra. The artist is Ademar Pereira Do Nascimento and the contact informaion is in the description box below. Tell Ademar DinosDragons said hello if you decide to get this! 😁
@user-xq9ig5pl4s
@user-xq9ig5pl4s Жыл бұрын
@@DinosDragons thank you very much!!
@starbirds2464
@starbirds2464 Жыл бұрын
Puertasaurus is 50 tons, patogotitan is 55 and argentinosaurus is 80
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
They were monsters all to be sure! Argentinosaurus though is probably closer to the median of the range between 60-75 tonnes. 80tonnes is monstrous! 😅😅 Dr Wedel has stated that they were all probably very close to each other and hence the theoretical upper limit of size. Wouldn't it be amazing if we found decent remains of Argentino and Puerta... then Ademar could make all of them in 1:35!
@starbirds2464
@starbirds2464 Жыл бұрын
@@DinosDragons ha yeah, I didn’t just get my size estimates from wikepedia btw, wikepedia claims argentinosaurus could reach 100 tons which is ridiculous. If you haven’t yet you should get the book called sauropod facts and figures by asier larremendi. It has amazing illustrations in every page and reasonably accurate size estimates for each if the largest sauropods.
@izbaprzyjec3442
@izbaprzyjec3442 Жыл бұрын
How much did you pay for this?
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
It was a partial gift from someone. But I believe it was very reasonable but I don't ask or find out prices of gifts. Write to Ademar at the contacts in the description box and you'll get the most reliable and recent prices.
@horse14t
@horse14t Жыл бұрын
Man this model is huge! Definitely too big for my room XD I love the details and colours! Making it out of fibreglass is also truly genius! Off topic but I recently found an independent artist's store that makes extinct animals (mostly mammals and birds) I haven't seen major companies tackle! (at good prices too) They have a Tarpan and Hipparion primigenium in their store which I'm happily saving up for! Always wanted a Tarpan! You should be able to find them by typing "Signatustudio animal replicas" into google... If you don't know about them already :P
@paleostories_7839
@paleostories_7839 Жыл бұрын
Ooh yes! Ive seen their sculpts before and i plan on getting their Megatherium and Mammoth! :D
@horse14t
@horse14t Жыл бұрын
@@paleostories_7839 Those two are easily some of the best in the store! Both of them have a lot of personality!
@OmarIversen
@OmarIversen Жыл бұрын
Where is their store?
@horse14t
@horse14t Жыл бұрын
@@OmarIversen You'll find it by typing the name into google. Should be the first result.
@DinosDragons
@DinosDragons Жыл бұрын
@horse14t Thanks mate! I know about them. Not as detailed as a 3D printed model, but man there is something so special about a handsculpted model! Unfortunately, I can't afford them, especially having them shipped to Asia would be crazy 😪 Hopefully when the worst of this recession blows over. I was actually very interested in his Bharal and Megaloceros.
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