(237) The Shi'Kahr Class (Starfleet's NEW Miranda Class?)

In today's episode of Truth OR Myth Beta, we're taking a look at the Shi'Kahr Class, as first seen in Star Trek: Online! Hope you enjoy it :)
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[@reubencarter3004]

The Shi'Kahr is a cross between the Miranda, Nebula, and Defiant class starships.

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

In a way, yes!

[@may86bear]

Looks Great. Cross between the Miranda and the Nebula 🖖

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Gorgeous Design!

[@The1ReviewBoard]

The Sh'Kahr really does look like a TNG era design. I could have seen some of these fight at Wolf 359.

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Yes, they did an excellent job with it!

[@Hagen-HenrikKowalski]

Lovely looking ship! It always was amazing how much the tng people did with things like markers and how we can still expand on it

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Well those highlighters were magic! :P

[@Hagen-HenrikKowalski]

@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics absolutely! And legendary on top :D

[@JTeam45]

Ah, a fellow STO Beta Tester! Shi'Kahr is an OG, I still have my original one from all of those years ago.

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

You and me both ;)

[@FosterTravis1071]

Somehow looks like it fits in well with the Lower Decks designed ships.

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Exactly! :P

[@panamera11]

When I recently got back into STO, I was really surprised by the new Shi Kar class design. I always thought the old one was a bit jagged, but I really appreciate this ship, as a fan of project Galaxy

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

It was a GREAT update!

[@defiantance]

A thought. Since there was a Project Galaxy, I wonder what ships would be like under "Project Sovereign".

[@thomas.parnell7365]

Very tough ships

[@earlware4322]

I would love 💙 to see a Sovereign version of the Miranda...🤔🙂👍

[@kevinzhang3792]

Isn’t that just the anti-borg ships? Akira, Sabre, etc?

[@charlestaylor253]

Gotta love those Hi-Lighter nacelles!...😉

[@EugenioAngueira]

This is a cool design. Definitely something that fits the style of the Galaxy-class.

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Absolutely ;)

[@Jfleshman1209]

I definitely see the Miranda influence. Looks like a worthy successor. Miranda class is a favorite of mine. Nicely done.

[@lvl10cooking]

This is one of the default skins for the Miranda in STO I prefer the OG Miranda tho, one of my favorite ships.

[@Peaceforall20111]

These Monday morning releases help prepare this nerd for a week of number crunching. Thanks

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Im honored :)

[@fishyfishumsiii6577]

a video on this day that isnt an april fools video? im flabbergasted lol

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

I like to keep you guessing :P

[@cesarsosaficachi5737]

Love the narrative and good evolution for the Miranda class 🖖🏻🇲🇽

[@SorenNido]

Beautiful ship, absolutely beautiful

[@star86703]

Brilliant looking starship

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

I know right? :)

[@warwolf88]

it's a pretty decent ship

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

I know right?

[@warwolf88]

​@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComicsit looks like a solid workhorse starship

[@EmpyreanFrost]

Love this god damn ship.

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Great design!

[@XxHaythamKenwayxX]

So for years I have been begging the STO devs to redesign all their original ships of the line when the game released. They look horrendously out of date, but I always loved their 'utility' aesthetic. In recent years my wish has coem true and they seem to be working on them as time goes by, and sure there have been some underwhelming or disappointing redesigns here and there, but several really do make a big difference. The Shikahr Class is one of those jobs well done, I'm happy this made it into your lore videos

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

I had to do it based on how awesome looking it is ;) :P

[@Cyclonus12]

One other thing to consider about why some people may have considered the Galaxy project a failure... at the time it was designed, the Galaxy class was intended to be the dominant, most advanced ship ever built by the Federation... yet 3 or 4 of them were destroyed within a decade of the time they were launched. Now, in reality, this simply happened because the writers of various TNG and DS9 episodes deemed it necessary to destroy some ships for dramatic purposes, not because the writing staff had any predetermined notion that Galaxy class ships had some inherent flaw. But if viewed in universe, it's understandable that some people in Starfleet and in the Federation might see it that way... that if almost half the ships of this incredibly powerful new class had been destroyed in just a handful of years, was there something fundamentally wrong with the class, or with the underlying technology on which it was based? And then of course, with the first Borg incursion happening just 5 years after the Galaxy class launched, followed soon after by the increasing threat of the Dominion, it's understandable that the Galaxy class and other designs based on that shared pool of technology soon gave way to designs like the Sovereign class, which were built with more of a battleship mindset, didn't have families aboard, etc. Also, newer designs like the Sovereign and Intrepid classes had a sleeker, narrower primary hull with a lower profile, as opposed to the tall neck and broad saucer section of the Galaxy class. These features were not only preferable in a combat situation, as there would be less frontal surface area for an enemy vessel to target, but this kind of design also, it seems, helped with the issue of the subspace damage that warp travel was apparently causing to the fabric of subspace, as discovered in the season 7 TNG episode "Force Of Nature". And hey, great video overall... looking forward to the next one! 😀

[@erykcszminschki7104]

The backstory you came up with made me admire this class from just not liking the design (it was the nacelles and thier pylons). Now I like it because of you, and I truely thank you for the storytelling abilities!

[@thegooddoctor6719]

The content you create is absolutely fantastic.

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Thank you SO much :)

[@armagosa1]

Another brilliant extrapolation of the stories, people and designs of the UFP and the world of Star Trek. Love you! Always!❤🎉

[@chancellorjake]

Since this dropped on April 1, I kept expecting it to be a joke. That said this is one good looking ship. Except for the open cargo bays on the front rim of rhe saucer. Would prefer if those were fully port and starboard.

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

LOL starship videos are NOT funny ;) :P

[@ItsTheNatMan]

I love the modern Shi'Kahr Class, it fits in perfectly with the pre TNG Highlighter pen nacelle aesthetic. I do miss the Old Shi'Kahr though, it was the skin I used on my first ship when I originally started playing.

[@videotramp97]

It's a beautiful design. Seen from above, it kind of resembles the Millennium Falcon with warp nacelles 🙂

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

It does?

[@videotramp97]

@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics It's just my opinion. Looking from above and going from stern to bow, it kind of looks like the Falcon without its forward notch. That being said, it's a gorgeous ship and I wish it was a canon design 🙂

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

I wasn't judging you, I was actually asking... Though I am abstractly familiar with the M Falcon, truth is, Im not a Star Wars fan, and don't really know!

[@kyleking284]

Wonderful story with an excellent Star Ship class although the other ships are very interesting as well I just LOVE these designs and the narratives you give them Thank You very Much👍👍❤💯😁😁🌹🌹

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Glad you enjoy them, and thanks for the support :)

[@OllamhDrab]

Kinda looks like a prelude to the Parliament class. :)

[@scottyb68]

Great story as always. In my head cannon a brilliant captain, Captain ScottyB, realizing that Starfleet needs warships quickly brings the great idea for the Galaxy hulls to Starfleet. With all the space for people and families not necessary it's decided to strip those areas completely out and begin installing more armament : more phasers, more torpedo launching capability. Shuttle bays filled with fighters and pop up phaser Gatling guns, a extra warp core to power all the guns and phasers. Hull seperation removed to save weight for all the extra torpedoes and fighters. Pure warships that can be manned by minimal crews. This fleet would be staged near Earth with the crews trained much like the national guard, doing other jobs but training monthly and an entire month each year in their assigned ship. They can quickly get to their ship when necessary.

[@kalajel]

Glad to see the Galaxy aesthetic re-emerge. I always felt the Galaxy project was done dirty in canon.

[@CASA-dy4vs]

Love ur vids!

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Thanks! And grats on being the first commentor! :)

[@jasonparis5635]

Not a bad design i like the spring field class nacelles on this ship the design is a worthy of the Miranda class

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Agreed :)

[@earlware4322]

I'm in agreement with the overall design of this ship, though the nacelles are just "meh" for me. I think I'd prefer some that were a little beefier to be honest, at least it'd be more of a callback to the OG Miranda. I do love the deflector pod though!

[@daviddyster4145]

I like the old S’akar Class design. It just made a whole lot more sense when Star Trek online was lunch back in 2010.

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Nahhhhhhh, this one is much better, fitting well with Real Canon!

[@daviddyster4145]

@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics I can dream 😴

[@JeremyBuxman]

You gotta love Starfleet. "Sure, we have to worry about the weapons and major threats and multiple ship requirements, but is it going to be a pretty ship?" :D

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Thats part of human nature!

[@jakehanifee8856]

I appreciate you not crapping all over the Project Galaxy ships. To me they represented the best ambitions of their time, but met too many war-like situations to continue. The Galaxy Class ships were also the most elegant ships ever designed.

[@drthompson65]

Sweet little ship!

[@dominik8005]

I love this video-

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Thank you Dom :)

[@PD-bg2zj]

Just turn it upside down and it looks far more 'conventional'.Warp nacelles above the main saucer hull and deflector dish below.

[@jtjames79]

I wonder if subspace plasma works like electrical fields. Like that experiment the KZbinr did with the mile of wire and the power was still instantaneous. I imagine the plasma like wire. But the subspace field goes directly to the warp nacelles, not technically through the plasma conduits. It would help explain why the pylons are always so skinny. Most of the energy is going through subspace. Just need to keep the connection going. /Trek shower thought

[@CortanaBabe]

Absolutely loved the Shi'Kahr in both iterations (brings back great STO Beta memories), the revamp is gorgeous!

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Couldn't agree more!

[@phils4634]

A very nice looking vessel (although the nacelles DO somewhat resemble USB drives 🙂 ). Any thoughts on including a much - updated XCV-330 style vessel in your 30'th Century development series? I'm a great fan of the Alcubierre - Drive ring technology, and I feel it just doesn't get the exposure (certainly in fan-fiction) that it truly deserves, even as e.g. interstellar freighter systems.

[@DamienDrake2940]

This is the ship class they should of used for Lower Decks.

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

I like the California Class!

[@Captain.AmericaV1]

I return to Sto between my seanonal breaks from wow, and still enjoy the game

[@MarvelX42]

Altho we all know that in space there is no up or down, to me this ship looks like it is upside down.

[@NPSao]

Same, I think because of the deflector my inner desire is just to flip the design, so the nacelles are on top and the deflector at the bottom.

[@stevegiles9080]

Can it be upgraded with trans torpedoes trans phaser and borg shields and side torpedoes and few attack shuttles and thick bidy armour?

[@entropy11]

I do wish the pod connected to the main body to allow for a full vertical warpcore right through the middle.

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

I dont! I think its great as is :)

[@entropy11]

@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics Don't get me wrong, I love it. This is just Engineer Me going Why at the hole between the rollbar pylons. XD Also i'd be way too tempted to try and thread the needle in a shuttle.

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Well everyone is entitled to their own personal opinion! 🫠

[@dsc4178]

Not bad.

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Indeed

[@admiralsquatbar127]

That is one sexy looking ship.

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

I know right?

[@laroark5036]

I would like to order one please.

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

LOL

[@TheMule47]

she's kind of an upside down Springfield. even has the same marker pen nacelles

[@keithkeith293]

It's nice looking ship. The only issue I have is that the phaser cannons on the corners of the roll bar from the OG Miranda class (U.S.S. Reliant from Wrath of Khan) weren't included.

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Well this is not a battleship or cruiser like the Miranda Originally was... This is a workhorse class, hence no need for cannons!

[@04m11]

Looks like a backward federation version of a Jem' Hadar ship

[@MrVinny873]

Am I the only one who sees the Millennium Falcon in there?

[@billphillips5821]

Hey Dude, love your videos. May want to have the model fixed. Just nit-picking, but at the 6 minute mark, I noticed there's green lights on the left (port side) and red on the right (starboard side) per the nacelles. Red is left and green is right. Sorry, it's my old age OCD. But I do love the stories and videos you come up with. You are the only channel that I financially support.

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Unfortunately that isnt possible on this model, as the nav light textures are baked in to the model... If it REALLY bothers you though, just watch it in a mirror 😉🤣 Thank you for your continued support 🙂

[@billphillips5821]

Mirror mode it is. Seriously though, love your stories. The models just give us some nice eye-candy.​@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Thank you so much, I do the best that I can, not always perfect though :(

[@timothymay9994]

Would like to see this class with the defiant class updates.

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Im not sure what you mean, please explain...

[@chrissegee]

Nice ship. Although it seems that Starfleet changes its esthetics every 3 minutes. If i were a pirate i would totally raid Starfleet Boneyards and get all those wonderful ships just sitting around waiting to be chopped up

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

They are within tthe core of the Federation, and well protected, so you wouldnt get far!

[@ellococrooliko]

Maybe you could put a video about starfleet's shipayards and their respective production capacity.

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

That would rely on imagination alone, as Canon or even Beta Canon doesnt really go in to production capacity...

[@timothymay9994]

Would also like to see the nx intrepid and freedom class updated to 24th century

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Why?

[@brightlord-ov7cm]

Does it come stock with the Pogo - Data and Picard song in its music choices?

[@ericmadsen7470]

A lot of the best designed ships from any era come from the fans who play Star Trek Online. I just love that new ship smell. Wouldn't you say that the Shi'Kahr Class be a worthy successor to the Miranda Class?

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

To a point, but apparently not fully, as STO has declared the Reliant Class as the Mirandas TRUE successor :P

[@jameslewis2635]

The older aesthetic of the Shi'Kahr class looks so much better. The current design looks like it was moulded out of soap - I just really dislike how rounded everything on it looks.

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Well you're definitely in the minority with that opinion lol

[@Peaceforall20111]

I’m kinda curious about the use of Cheyenne nacels. Any reason?

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Why not?

[@Peaceforall20111]

@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics With them never being used beyond those few ship classes I figured there was logical reason for their not being used beyond those ships. And especially after Wolf 359 I would figure somebody would’ve had to have made the decision to use those cells after they stopped using them And just seems like a politixal decision I don’t see any too brass making

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Well, like the video said, after the decommissioning of so many of the Project Galaxy Classes, Starfleet suddenly had a surplus of starship components, thus they repurposed then! Cutting down on both materials AND Construction time!

[@Peaceforall20111]

@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics that makes sense I just figured the lack of those nacels use after those early galaxy ships was due to a functional reason; if not then my bad. Honestly, everybody’s always made fun of them, but I’ve always loved them. I wish they were on more ships.

[@Peaceforall20111]

@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics the more I think about it we do see the old excelsior nacels on the 24th century centaur class; but was that maybe be related to the relationship to the technology that’s question I don’t know

[@james8449100]

Would the space bus not be a Miranda

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

No, it would be a Space Bus!

[@Barbariandisks]

So your fan fiction ignores the reliant class all together, Even though the Reliant class is now canon to tv... Picard s2 and 3

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

No, not at all, and not sure why you would say/ think that since the video is clear Im not...

[@floydbolyard2736]

You forgot the nebula class which was a galaxy class variant of the Miranda class before the sh'kar class variant of the old Miranda coass

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

I didn't forget the Nebula Class, as it was NEVER a variant of the Miranda Class! Common misconception among a minority of fans!

[@AlternicityBlogspot]

Roll bar is kinda meh. Where are the whoop-ass +1 phasers?

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

There isnt one, as this is NOT a cruiser or destroyer, it's a workhorse class, thus not necessary!

[@armymatt83]

Gonna have to disagree with you and say this class was built at the same time as its sister classes and that theres no reason Starfleet would scrap perfectly serviceable relatively new ships.

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

And you would be completely wrong, as STO is clear as to this coming after Wolf 359, and not a part of Project Galaxy! 😉 and as the video says, it was not easily upgradable, making it scrapworthy after a short lifespan! Especially considering that sort of silly thinking lead to Starfleets defeat at Wolf 359 in the first place lol

[@HMSVanguard46]

Thought this was an april fools

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Why?

[@HMSVanguard46]

@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics the date you released it and the fact it's the new Miranda, the Miranda is eternal

[@roguerifter9724]

The Shi'Kar class was originally mentioned in the Last Unicorn Tabletop RPG long before STO came along. I remember being pleasantly surprised when I discovered the class was in the game only to be annoyed when I realized that for some reason the playable version was classed as a Light Cruiser even though the NPC version is a Frigate like the class was in the tabletop game. I never understood why the people working on STO love to reclassify ships instead of using the class types from the original material.

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Well the problem with the "Last Unicorn Tabletop RPG," is it's lack of pictures... So although A Shi'kahr class IS mentioned, I havent seen a picture of this class connected to it... So it's probably just coincidence and that Class has no relation to this one... So you can't just assume they're the same because you want them to be! Thus the original statement stands either way, the Shi'Kahr Class as first SEEN in STO!

[@roguerifter9724]

@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics Perhaps but I think its unlikely for them to actually not be linked. Possible sure but unlikely. Especially when you consider that the Last Unicorn ship was a Frigate class and the Star Trek Online Shi'Kahrs are also Frigates unless a player is using them For some reason players flying Frigates wasn't allowed for the first several years of STO . Instead many ship classes that were Frigates when under NPC control became something else when a player was commanding it, A Light Cruiser in the Shi'Kahr's case. If the Shi'Kahrs only appeared as Light Cruisers in STO I would think it likely to be an odd coincidence but with both the original version and the NPC version being Frigates I find it less likely that they are just a fluke of someone picking the same class name.

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Again coincidences happen ALL the time, and without proof that it's the same ship class, you've got nothing, and CANT declare them the same! You don't have that authority! So the original statement stands!

[@roguerifter9724]

@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics Perhaps but what makes you think there is no connection? It is certainly possible but I would imagine the people working on creating ships for the game browsed through the list of ship classes from the franchise. If I were working on creating the ship selection for an MMO from an established franchise the first thing I would do when I need a class of a certain type is check for existing ship classes in the lore I could reasonably expect to be in service when and where the game occurs.

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

It's not perhaps, it's how the world works... Your assumptions are not fact... It's possible it's the same ship class, it's possible there's a connection, but until or unless you have direct proof, you've got nothing but what you "think" is true... And nothing you've said here will ever change that! And no you're completely WRONG with "first thing I would do when I need a class of a certain type is check for existing ship classes in the lore" as everyone knows, you CANT just use someone elses creations under the MMO circumstance, legally... They do not own the copyright, and would want to avoid legal battles. So "creating the ship selection for an MMO" ALWAYS create their OWN classes to avoid that nonsense! So again, you've got nothing and the statement stands! Also, Im closing this thread off here as you're just running around in circles, saying the same thing in different ways, when again, you have nothing! Take care! (Thread CLOSED- to prevent a circular argument that the OP is just wrong about)

[@Daginni1]

Love the video, but your lore always depicts the Federation as a bunch of WHINERS, constantly judging Starfleet. It makes me laugh sometimes! The Galaxy class didn't perform well against the adaptable Borg with a assimilated Starfleet captain in command? Pack it up boys, send the entire program off to pasture! We'll use our trusty ol' Excelsiors to fight the problem!

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Because that's how they are, watch Trek and see! And that's canon!

[@Daginni1]

@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics Trusty ol' Excelsiors will save the day!

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Yes, exactly, because it was a better, far more sturdy design! ;)