23MPH Mud skipper twister, predator 212

[@joshedmonds8721]

The ol classic left to right float by

[@ryanmcmurray1980]

That's what I'm talking bout. Doin some fat rips. Raise hell n' praise Dale.

[@alexmont221]

Anyway u can do a video with a cavitation plate on it?

[@Alaskaduckhuntr]

Good ole slough I run that place often

[@6.7cummins8]

Thinking about ordering up one of these kits but after reading the comments almost seems like a predator 420 would do better with the extra displacement and tq but have you had any issues with the extra power would wanna do a stage 4 212 on one of these

[@zachevans7006]

6.7cummins don’t go for the 212. We all regret it in the end lol

[@jmeier1981]

How does the motor trailer? Will it spin around and sit in the boat like a regular long tail? Im wanting the 13/16hp version but I don't want to have to pull the motor off the plate/transom to trailer it.

[@playinlikejimi]

Mine would hit. I had to take the screw out that holds the frame on the transom mount whenever I spun it around to give it the extra half inch or so it needed, but didn't need to take it off the transom completely. Eventually I built a jackplate for pretty cheap to take care of that.

[@cole2546]

Does the mechanical pulse pump run straight to the carb or do you need a fuel pump and filter

[@playinlikejimi]

This one has a filter at the tank and runs straight to the carb.

[@Icehog1990]

Where did you get the muffler? I like how it goes to the rear and not the side like many others I’ve seen.

[@playinlikejimi]

It's the Mud Motor exhaust on NR Racing. Mud Skipper also sells one

[@HeavyCurl]

That looks like Alaska to me. You still up here?

[@SpecialK911]

Do you prefer this motor, the 6.5 horse. Or do you like the bigger twister setup more?

[@rocktalk7814]

I have a 420cc motor with the twister with the cavitation plate on it. Highway speed I can get is 16 mph. I still have the prop it came with in it. What is the best thing I can do to go faster? I feel like I should definitely hit for than 16 with a 420cc especially when you get to 23 with a 212. Any help is appreciated

[@kevinjoyce6442]

Mud Skipper has an adapter now to put traditional props on.

[@playinlikejimi]

Yea, I'm hoping this video can help others see what to expect with it. When things thaw out in the spring I'll do some more with a stock motor and different props.

[@tseemntshiabthao6028]

For this video, did you remove/bypass the govenor ? And were you using the stock fly wheel or did you upgrade to a billet flywheel ?

[@playinlikejimi]

I did have an aluminum flywheel and removed governor.

[@pitviper6425]

South central Florida here. If you're still around, just bought a 1232 with a mudskipper twister and 212 stock. Using this mod should come close to what you running as far as speed with your 14 ' wouldn't you think? Appreciate you sharing!!

[@playinlikejimi]

Which mod do you mean? This particular engine is using the 2-blade props and the engine is fairly modified. If I were you, I'd stick with a relatively stock engine and test out different props and weight distribution. Check out my other video on how to dial it in. After you're getting the most out of it that way, then start looking into engine mods.

[@russellhollembaek9702]

Do you have the cavitation plate on there?

[@sbranham86]

Ever thought of running the twister xl?

[@playinlikejimi]

I have one of those as well. Take a look at my newer videos.

[@joeyd2105]

Do you have to keep prying up on the steering arm with a twister as you would with a longtail, @ wot

[@playinlikejimi]

No, the shorter shaft doesn't have as much leverage working against you trying to surface the prop, and it has an adjustable trim so you can set how deep it can go. That's one of the biggest advantages this has over a long tail, it's so much easier to drive.

[@joeyd2105]

@@playinlikejimi so I bought my twister XL, put my 16 hp on the frame. Dropped in the river, And anything past idle basically and my prop just cavitates , I dropped the tail way too low and everywhere in between with no differences, I'm praying a simple prop change out will cure me... Yesterday was miserable. There's next to no water in our river and all the mud boats were out On the St John's, Man I was missing my LT

[@playinlikejimi]

@@joeyd2105 yea, that's pretty common with the factory prop. It either needs the cavitation plate or use the 2 blade prop. I don't use the cavitation plate anymore, but with the old prop I had the same issues.

[@joeyd2105]

@@playinlikejimi glad to hear your experiences at least I know I'm not the only one I was pretty upset when I was at the river yesterday literally ready to go home and put the long tail back on,

[@playinlikejimi]

@@joeyd2105 I was about to get rid of mine, but then I figured out how to make these props. Now they have the adapter. I picked one up and made a video on installing it, go to my channel to check it out.

[@maddog45auto66]

Yes I'm curious I have a mud twister XL are you running a cavitation plate on yours ?

[@playinlikejimi]

Not with the new props. I haven't been able to get out much this year to get some more videos up, but hopefully I can soon. I get asked about the plate alot, so I'll try to see if there's a difference with or without. But right now, the 2-blade props can run very close to the surface without a place.

[@azlongtales]

How has the longevity been with the modified motors?

[@michaeldill6950]

I’m curious about this also

[@azlongtales]

@@michaeldill6950 check out our channel it handles very well modified or not even with the larger power 440cc

[@marshmadness4974]

Im curious what speeds you will get with the 8in or 8.5in.

[@playinlikejimi]

It's been a while, but I was able to get it out a few weeks ago for a couple runs. With this motor setup, it actually does best with the smaller prop. It gets it higher in the RPM range where it makes the most power. With my stock motor however, it does real well getting about 15 mph with a 7.5" prop and empty boat and 8mph with a 6 1/4" prop, regardless of weight. Not fast, but very torquey. I had over 750lbs in the boat and it still reached the governor and did 8mph.

[@sean7058]

A torque prop and cavitation plate

[@jacobmoore6214]

What carb is the marine carb 252. Duration ?

[@playinlikejimi]

Sounds like you're talking about the camshaft

[@jacobmoore6214]

Greasy Bastards Outdoors oh yeah sorry I meant camshaft I think it autocorrected into that for whatever reason lol

[@jacobmoore6214]

Greasy Bastards Outdoors and also what flywheel did u get with the stage 3 kit

[@playinlikejimi]

I got the kit from NR-racing. I don't know the specs for the cam off the top of my head, but the marine can is one of the options at checkout. I also got an aluminum flywheel to be on the safe side.

[@2ggrazing48]

Are you you running any pulse or 12v in line fuel pump on that set up? Very impressed.

[@playinlikejimi]

This is with a mechanical pulse pump.

[@briansugg9688]

What speeds were you getting with the factory stainless prop? I put the modified 210 (11hp) in the water today, and managed to get 9mph out of it. Disappointing.

[@playinlikejimi]

In the same creek I got 11.2 MPH upstream, 13 MPH downstream with a stock motor. Then 12.9 MPH and 15.7 MPH with a stage 1 and governed. With stage 3 and governor removed I actually lost speed and could only get 15.3 max. I was very disappointed and didn't male a video. But the reason is because my powerband shifted to the higher RPM range, but I couldn't get the motor up into that range. First time with the new prop I almost fell down because I wasn't expecting that much power that fast.

[@briansugg9688]

@@playinlikejimi Thanks for your quick reply. Apparently there is something tragically wrong with my initial setup, or it's the giant Lab riding in the front of the boat. I intend to copy your aluminum prop upgrade (great video) but on the short term may try to dial in the trim and adjust this huge cav plate to squeak a little more out of this rig. Thanks again.

[@playinlikejimi]

@@briansugg9688 buy a longer trim bolt from the hardware store. And these were empty speeds, the loaded speeds were quite a bit lower.

[@azlongtales]

@@playinlikejimi yep no replacement for displacement in our experience

[@Boehmer96]

Did you have any problems with the extra horse power impacting the Mud-skipper kit? Also, what did you use for parts? What NR cam did you use? I am working on one myself.

[@playinlikejimi]

No issues with the extra power so far. And I used the marine cam option. There's a little bit of open water, so expect some new videos with speed and weight load tests soon.

[@Boehmer96]

@@playinlikejimi you got the marine cam that is on the kit when you are on the website correct? What carb and other options? This is super helpful!

[@playinlikejimi]

@@Boehmer96 this is with the .650 bored carb. I'm trying to decide if a mikuni would be worth the extra money. I think I'll get some test runs in with this one for now, then try the mikuni and do the same tests to see if there was much difference.

[@SaltyDogFXDB]

NIce! I am about to pull the trigger on one of these. What Carb, Cam, Exhaust did you choose with your kit from NR Racing with that stage 3 kit.

[@playinlikejimi]

I got the .650 bored carb, marine cam, and the basic mud motor exhaust, but I've gone through 2 Briggs screw in mufflers and have seen other fall apart because of vibrations. Might do the loop exhaust next or weld my own muffler.

[@SaltyDogFXDB]

Thanks for getting back to me that quick. In your opinion is the twister worth it, i mean do have any regrets buying that over say a normal long-tail.

[@playinlikejimi]

@@SaltyDogFXDB with the factory prop it was a pretty big let down. After the new prop it's a huge difference and right now I'd prefer this over any longtail with the same size motor. It's very easy to drive. I'll keep ripping on it and see how well it holds up over time. So far so good though.

[@garrettgiddens2825]

Greasy Bastards Outdoors what size prop is working best for you?

[@playinlikejimi]

@@garrettgiddens2825 this video was with a 6.5 inch. I haven't been able to get out and test the different sizes yet. Life keeps getting in the way lol. Everything is frozen solid now, but I'll be testing prop sizes and hopefully will get some videos up in spring. I also have a stock back up motor, so hopefully I can get some videos up of it stock with the prop mod so people can see what to expect.

[@ibtripnoutdoors5311]

Hey man, I have the twister xl and I’m running a predator 305cc. I want to upgrade mine but I don’t know if I should get the props or the kit first... what would you recommend? I already have a cavitation plate on it. I want my boat to get up and go but I need help with which step I should do first? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[@playinlikejimi]

Get the prop adapter kit. By far the biggest improvement you can make. Check out my channel to see how to install it, it's pretty easy.

[@ibtripnoutdoors5311]

Thanks man!!

[@marshmadness4974]

What size prop are you running to get that speed ?

[@playinlikejimi]

This is with a 6.5 inch. I haven't gotten out enough to test the bigger ones, but this seems to be a good match for my setup. Since I have billet internals and the governor removed I can rev higher, so a smaller prop gets me into a good power range. With the boat fully loaded I get about 15-17mph at 5600rpm, but I prefer to cruise around 4500 for a little less wear and tear. I think I'm going try a 6.5 inch weedless prop, they have a little more pitch to them.

[@josephramirez3124]

Where did you get your header

[@playinlikejimi]

It's the mud motor pipe from NR racing. The Briggs muffler that comes with it isn't that good though, I've had a few and they've all fallen apart. Now I use the Briggs Lo-Tone muffler (part number 393010S) and I'm happy with it so far.